Galaxy Note is Amazing Device because of 5S - 1 - Galaxy Note 10.1 General

Stability
The biggest factor for me. I just didn't know that Android tablet can be this stable until used Galaxy Note 10.1. By choosing Android Ecosystem over the iOS ecosystem, I was always under the impression we are giving up the stability. Galaxy Note 10.1 is even more stable than my iPad 2. I have had only a single crush on stock browser for the entire week of use. At this point, I am even doubting the event. May be I had accidentally clicked close button.
Speed
Very fast device. Transformer Infinity when its at maximum speed I believe matches the Galaxy Note, but galaxy note constantly at its speed.
Sustainability (Battery Life)
Amazing is all I can say on this regard. This system can get me 10 hours easily with constant browsing, video play, and even with some gaming. Infinity only gave me 5-6 hours at maximum without dock. If I played game, it can be as short as 3-4 hours. This was unfortunately not acceptable for me. Some may argue but with "dock". My take on this was it is nice to have dock sometimes, but I got tablet because of its portability. I don't want to carry around extra pound every where I go. Otherwise, I would simply carry my macbook air around.
S-pen
Honestly, I don't really use this feature but if I had this when I was in school, this would have been ideal. I even purchased HP Windows Tablet with premium price of ~$2000 when I was at school. The battery life was suboptimal and could not really use it for whole day of lecture. But since Samsung is making this is its unique selling feature, this made it to my third S.
Screen
Unfortunately, this is the weakness. Not bad screen but if you have used HD screen it is noticeable difference. And this is not some random feature that most don't care. This is everyday use, always on feature so lack of this point is making Galaxy Note always a tough decision to call "the best android tablet."

I'll take the GNote screen any day, if it means I can have this amazing tablet that just works. No issues or crashes - it just works. I didn't know how bad my ThinkPad Tablet was until I got this tab.

The display is nice. Its just not 1920*1280 or whatever.
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Agree 100% with you... Moved from TF700 to SGN10.1 just for 4S...

HD display is definitely lovely and like I said I miss it. But stability once you experience is equal or even more important factor. I cannot take a note, bring up reference etc. at work and suddenly my application crushes and start over. But yes. I truly miss HD display and that is why I am still checking infinity forum to see if stability is improved.
In theory, infinity still has potential. Assuming their I/O issue is not truly bounded by flash drive i.e. hardware level, if it gets fixed by software and who knows whatever else samsung is doing correctly, and ASUS applies that Infinity can have both HD and stability. Whereas, Galaxy Note 10.1 is essentially near perfect system of its own if we excluded HD screen BUT it is never fixable.
Again very tough choice. But if infinity does not get the stability, I don't think I can go back to it as again I cannot use system that crushes randomly every other hour especially after experiencing the stability of Galaxy Note.
By the way for the defence of Infinity, I again say that infinity's browsing speed can be as fast as that of Galaxy Note. I did end up doing some build.prop tweak before returning mine Infinity, but with that I compared side by side with infinity and galaxy note visiting exact same site at the same time of clicking. Sometimes, infinity actually loaded faster BUT infinity could not sustain the speed as time goes by; whereas, galaxy note is always at that speed. So again stability and perhaps reliability on galaxy note, which seems to match that of iOS, which for apple fans the main selling point of their device.

Please stay on topic guys.
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What build.prop tweaks did you do to make things faster?
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What build.prop tweaks did you do to make things faster?
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Sorry I was talking about infinity there. I m on 100% stock on galaxy note.

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Any regrets buying the note instead of the infinity?

To all that purchased the note , any regrets that you should have bought the infinity tf700 instead having a 1900x1280 resolution with a super ips plus screen?
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To all that purchased the note , any regrets that you should have bought the infinity tf700 instead having a 1900x1280 resolution with a super ips plus screen?
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I'm sitting here looking at both side by side on my desk. It's really a tough decision which to keep. The Note is really fast and love the pen features - but the plastic back does make it feel a little cheap. The screen resolution on the infinity is truly beautiful, and when it's in the dock, it feels extremely well built. My Infinity does have the usual light bleed along the bottom and right side, the Note has none.
What to do. I have some time to figure this out, but it's going to be difficult as both have their features and faults.
HELLL no! i just returned my infinity and bought the note and its awesome. Sure it doesn't have a high res screen but the screen it has is great. No hiccups so far, its very fast and it doesnt have the i\o issues like asus had. sound is great and plenty loud. touch is very responsive and the s pen works as advertised. I dont mind the plastic either , its pretty sturdy for the build. and the lcd is flush not separating like on my infinity in certain spots lol. It takes a bit for it to charge but it also takes longer for it to depleat. i was on it for a solid 2 hours yesterday just playing with everything and it only went down to 80%, my infinity gave me about 4 hours until it was dead. Screen is way bright enough, i have mine set at about 30% and that is plenty for around the house. Asus really needs to step it up for me to consider thier tablets again, way to many issues. Sure your getting more for your money but if its not quality and doesnt work well does it really matter? Hope this helps :good:
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To all that purchased the note , any regrets that you should have bought the infinity tf700 instead having a 1900x1280 resolution with a super ips plus screen?
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Perhaps this may be too early to say, but i own(ed) infinity for almost a month. I didnt care about spen, split screen but wanted to have as smooth experience of android os as possible. In fact of all key features, I care hd resolution the most, but none the less I picked up galaxy note. So far I am seriously impressed the smoothness and even stability of this device. I have yet to encounter any ANR. The file i couldnt open on mantano readeras it took forever, and thought it originally was due to app itself opens fine on note.
Some major benchmark issue on infinity was io, which got better but never the phone level. So of course i tested on note with rl benchmark. It is a wopping 20s whereas, infinty gets me 80s at the best.
Will give more detailed impression. But for now if you can give up hd, hands down note.
It's a simple choice actually. You want a media toy, get the Infinity. You want a tablet tool, get the Note.
The screen res on the Note won't set any records but it is acceptable. I am guessing they did that because of the pen. A high density screen may have caused screen lag when writing with the pen.
Also remember that we have barely scratched the surface on what they can do with the s-pen. Developers will be creating lots of apps for us. needless to say if you want to do any note taking, the Note is the obvious choice.
Too many issues with the 2 Infinitys I had. I am more than happy with my note.
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Too many issues with the 2 Infinitys I had. I am more than happy with my note.
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Ditto, this thing rocks. The Note wins, no contest.
I would just return the Note. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and we'll be lucky if we even get official Jelly Bean. ICS took months to come (beginning of August). ASUS, however do update there devices in rapid speed (Some ASUS devices are getting Jelly Bean today).
Function > Form = No regrets. Note 10.1 all day long.
Just swapped my Infinity yesterday for the note. I couldn't put it down! everything is so smooth. like a quad core device should be. Plus the added functionality of thepen is exquisite. As far as the screen goes, I can say that the Note's screen is by no means ugly, perhaps just not as crisp in some places. but I'll take overall stability over that in a heartbeat.
I've never owned the Infinity and I never will after my horrible experience with Asus, ICS, and the original Transformer. I've been waiting all year practically for the Note 10.1 to arrive, and I couldn't be happier with it. The screen resolution is perfectly acceptable to me, as I bought this device for gaming, surfing and for use as a design tool (s-pen). IMHO, Samsung may not push many updates for their devices, but I'd rather have a device that works than one that is buggy, barely runs the apps it should run easily, and has poor build quality (case creaks, screen light bleed, etc) but receives updates every other month.
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I would just return the Note. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and we'll be lucky if we even get official Jelly Bean. ICS took months to come (beginning of August). ASUS, however do update there devices in rapid speed (Some ASUS devices are getting Jelly Bean today).
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Seems like Asus has so many updates because they have so many problems with their products. Gmo.
Also I am a former prime and infinity owner.
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mtunender said:
Seems like Asus has so many updates because they have so many problems with their products. Gmo.
Also I am a former prime and infinity owner.
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Well all those tablets getting jellybean. The tf-300 just got JB update this morning. I wonder how long it'll take Samsung to update the Note 10.1 to JB.
I'm hoping the rumors of Samsung horrible delayed updating to latest firmware isn't true..lol. we will see
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Well all those tablets getting jellybean. The tf-300 just got JB update this morning. I wonder how long it'll take Samsung to update the Note 10.1 to JB.
I'm hoping the rumors of Samsung horrible delayed updating to latest firmware isn't true..lol. we will see
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Well the thing we have going for us with the Note 10.1 is that this is Samsung's flagship product.
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They said jb will be out by this year. The transformer line is betting on jb to fix everything, while the note is already great and perfect on ics. What more can jb do for it? Besides make it faster than the already fastest android tablet alive, galaxy note 10.1!
I scanned through the TF300 forum after i saw they were getting JB (only cause I considered this one before I got my TF700), and the few posts I read stated it was under whelming update.
Those could have been picky users though, but I was getting ready to read through some more to see if any issues are fixed for them.
I am interested to see if JB helps the 700 at all though.
I have the galaxy note 10.1 and the TF201. hands down the Note is superior than the prime.
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I have the galaxy note 10.1 and the TF201. hands down the Note is superior than the prime.
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Same here.

Opinions moving from iPad to SGN 10.1?

So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
Just go down to your local brick and mortar and play with one for an hour and decide for yourself. Or, if you're incapable of deciding for yourself then head down to the Apple retail store and the geniuses will happily tell you what to buy.
S Pen is very accurate (I haven't seen anyone complain about it being off a little) and very responsive.
It's as not fluid as an iPad, but should be fluid enough. I actually returned Asus Transformer Infinity before buying this one, and I can say that Note 10.1 is ten time more fluid than Transformer Infinity. It addition, with Jelly Bean (with Project Butter) update coming within this year it will be much better. I don't think you will feel like you need Jelly Bean though because it already works smoothly as is.
Coming from iPad 2, the screen will look amazing with higher resolution. However, if fluidity is your priority, iPad is probably the best choice. But I have a feeling that you will be happy with this device.
My wife was fed up with her iPad 2 (it was free, though, a business gift) . When I had my SGN10.1 she played around with it for 1hr , got in her car and went to buy her own SGN10.1 ....... :good:
Earthdog said:
So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
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Gingerbread??? Tab 10.1 was Honeycomb... That said it had a Tegra2, Tegras are notorious for being first on the market to bump up core count but horrendously poor performance per core, and oddly, some of the worst GPU performance which is odd considering that NVidia is a GPU company.
If you're happy with the I9300, you should be happy with the N80xx - Same resolution and exact same CPU/GPU.
In addition, once Jellybean hits, UI performance should be significantly improved... Assuming Samsung doesn't dork it up. Might want to look at how the I9300 Jellybean leak is performing.
Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Just return my Asus TF700 and bought my second Note(first one went to U of Iowa with my daughter) and couldn't be happier.
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This is not a hard choice. The iPad is a very different device if your into pen. If the question is about the pen being solid, it's solid.
Feel secure that your getting good pen from this.
I came from the iPad. I've been trying to switch to Android for over a year. Of the half dozen Android tablets I've tried, the Note 10.1 is my switching device. Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping the iPad mostly because my daughter uses it for some games and secondly because there are some games I like that Android doesn't have (Kingdom Rush!).
So yeah, my retina iPad has been reduced to sloppy seconds.
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I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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Mafiatounes said:
I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
I had the iPad1 the day it came out, and the iPad2 when it came out. The only reason I bought either tablet was that I wanted to use it for taking notes (without needing pen and paper) and reading PDF's (in a more natural way than on a laptop), and they only did one of those things. I sold my iPad2 a few months ago, and have just now picked up the Note 10.1. Me like!
The build quality is a little lower than I've been used to with the iPad, but feels acceptable in the hand.
The note-taking software is a little rough around the edges, as if Samsung doesn't realize they can tap into a HUGE education market with it.
In terms of taking notes in class, it's everything I ever hoped for -- the digitizer is very accurate, super rarely messes up.
Lack of high-res screen is disappointing, but it still looks a lot better than my iPad ever did!
The whole point of the Note 10.1 is taking notes and drawing. Hopefully Samsung will realize this at some point and polish up the rough edges and market it for education, ie. taking notes in class, but 'til then it's a fine tablet as is.
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
Mafiatounes said:
Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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I know some people yell about specs that they only heard about without knowing what it adds, but it is not in my case, i usually browse a lot and i also hate seeing big pixels like for example on the iPad 2, this is what i liked about the New iPad the browsing experience was quitte good (with Chrome) and i could not see any pixels in normal use. That is why it will be the most important for me on a tablet.
I've had a lot of experience with Samsung and HTC in the past and it was the same as you HTC was a master, but if the Note 10.1 resembles the S3 that i own now than it will be the tab to beat. Samsung improved a lot since the Galaxy S in terms of software implementation and support at least this is what i experience now on my S3.
The only time you will notice the resolution difference with the Note is if you are trying to read really tiny text. Othewise this screen looks totally amazing.
That being said it all comes down to the s-pen. If you want a pen get the Note, if not get the ipad.
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Would you trade n7 for galaxy tab 10.1?

Would u trade ur n7 for a galaxy tab 10.1. My friend wants to trade me strait up. I like the bigger tab but I love the n7 tho.
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Nope. Sammy can go take a hike with their 10.1.
You get a bigger screen, but that's the only major benefit. The Nexus 7 has a better CPU (Tegra 3 vs Tegra 2, quad core vs dual), and is probably going to have a better development scene (however, I have no idea on the current state of development on the GT 10.1).
Edit: Hmm, it also seems to get cellular and rear camera. If you want cellular, and have a want for a rear camera, I don't see it as that bad of a deal.
No, I've never liked 10" tablets, iPads or otherwise. The N7 is the perfect size for me.
Don't need the cellular since I can tether to my HOX, and taking pictures or video with a tablet makes you look like an idiot.
Yeah I like that it has a rear can but do t really need it I have an s3. But I really like the bigger screen and as fas as the development I already feel too caught up with my s3 that I just flashed paranoid android to my n7 and left it alone.
I guess I just wanna feel good about giving up a newer product for an older model
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If you can sell the Tab for more than the cost of the Nexus 7, then it might be worth it to make the trade, sell the Tab, and then buy a new Nexus 7.
True but If I trade id just keep it. But thanks guys for ur input
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The Tab 10.1 is a nice device. Its a generation behind in specs. I liked my 10" Transformer but it had a micro SD card and HDMI out. I found it tedious to lug around and eventually stopped using it because of such. Everytime I wanted to use it, it was dead.
I sold my transformer for $200. The N7 was $250+tax. Not sure what the Tab sells for but they are probably being flooded in the market since the 10" Note is out.
Sammy stopped updating the Tab a long time ago. I'm not sure if it even officially got ICS let alone jelly bean. The N7 has JB and will get KeyLime Pie when its released and probably LoliPop.
Tell him to sell it over in the Market and pick up a N7.
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I've always hated larger tablets... once you hit 10" tablets I find little reason to not just get a laptop and be done with it. While the N7 is smaller, it's very workable. We're remodeling some areas of our house, and I keep a few pictures and measurement notes down in my N7. When I'm at Lowes, it's nice to pull out the N7 and get a better idea of what I'm facing at home. Since the N7 fits in my back pocket, it's only another +1 to that court.
That's just my 2c though. I've talked to some people who love 10" tablets. I personally don't, and on that premise alone I wouldn't do the trade. That being said, you're also swapping out for slightly older hardware too. Nothing wrong with that if it's worth it, but I see no compelling reason that I personally would do that trade.
Heavy tab 10.1,I like my N7
NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats the first thing i want to say to you.
i am ex tab 10.1 owner.
the performance is TERRIBLE!!!!
i started using from stock honeycomb 3.1
its laggy beyond words, and i was forced to learn to root and flash custom roms that are 3.2
things got SLIGHTLY better but it was still laggy.
simple things like typing on keyboard, bringing up on screen keyboard, scrolling are still choppy.
then ICS came, and i flash various customs like AOKP and CM9
things got better again, overall UI is acceptable, no where near buttery smooth but still ok.
however only the UI smoothness improved in ICS, apps, games, any slightly 3D games will play in "slow motion" or "stop frame" style.
the tegra2 just dont cut it. its a dissapointment.
i sold my tab10,1 the moment i saw google IO announce nexus 7.
nexus 7 is superior in every way then that tab10.1 in terms of performance, responsiveness.
the only weakness is the small screen, but that gives it another benefit which is better portability.
the tab 10,1 browser crashes on a daily basis.
memory management is terrible even on ics.
try load FB desktop page on tab 10,1 stock browser, keep scrolling down,
as the FB page loads more newsfeeds, the scrolling becomes soo laggy, and it will start FC eventually.
NEVER trade your nexus 7 for tab10.1. you will surely regret it.
I actually did the opposite, sold my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and got the N7. Main reason was the weight and portability, I lasted 30 minutes with the 10.1 in the bath and my arms got tired. With the N7, I can watch movies anywhere, holding anyway I want and it feels great. Plus it's much more snappier (I did install a CM10 nightly on the 10.1 which was much better than its stock ICS but wasn't as great).
Nexus 7 is the best Android tablet out there in my opinion. Not just the best 7 inch, the best. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to tech. I've had an Acer Iconia 10" and 7", Transformer prime, Galaxy tab 2, and now this. Not quite every tablet on the market but a pretty decent cross section. I've also had a close look at a few other tabs.
The only thing that comes close is the transformer prime. That thing is ok but it's harder to hold, much heavier and the dock seems like a nice idea but ends up being a pita in practice.
This thing is a little pocket rocket, very powerful whilst being very easy to hold even for long periods and extremely portable.
By the way the galaxy tab is ****. Samsung don't even bother to support it so it was still on honeycomb when I last checked two weeks ago.
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My Opinion: Note 8.0 GT-N5110

I won't make this too in depth, but I'd actually like to address some of the development doubts I've seen for the 8.0 and share my fair opinion of the device so far. First off I'd like to compare it from my own personal experience to other tablets I've owned and used a fair bit.
First off I'd like to compare it to a Nexus 10. I spent roughly a week playing with a Nexus 10 and settled on returning it. This is going to sound a little strange being that I'm comparing such a close price point but the Nexus 10 to me was not worth the premium. Not only that but honestly with a 10" tablet I feel I may as well be using my 13" Lenovo Ideapad Yoga- BUT that is a personal preference and by no means a fair reference point. What did I experience with the Nexus 10? I did like the build quality, however the user experience was strangely underwhelming even after installing some custom ROMs. I'm quite aware this paragraph isn't too relevant, however I've found the Note 8.0 a fair bit easier to use in every day situations than any 10" tablet I've owned.
Comparing it to a Nexus 7 is another matter. I do own a Nexus 7, I've actually given it to my significant other's 12 year old girl to learn and play with. Originally though I do love the device far more so than it's 10" counterpart. The only problem is well, it's just slightly too small for some uses. The form factor I found to be slightly frustrating. Whenever I used it I felt I may as well just settle and use my Galaxy Note II. That said however the feel of it and the quality for the price point was obviously fantastic. It just seems that there is a sweet spot in my opinion on tablet size and I think that lies somewhere around 8 inches. It gives you plenty of room for web browsing, it's actually a decent amount more function to type on than even a Nexus 7 given the extra screen real estate, and it still works beautifully as an ebook reader/news source.
The biggest advantages really I've found is that the Note 8.0 while not having an entirely great screen resolution seems to have a better picture quality than a LOT of tablets I've played with. There is something slightly more sharp about the screen than even my experience with the Nexus 10, but let me make this clear. I'm not saying the screen is technically superior.
The other large advantage I've really noticed is how snappy even with the vanilla samsung ROM the note 8.0 is. Side by side it's by far the snappiest, quickest responding tablet in it's class for general use, save for mayhap using the home button. Yes, I don't necessarily like the hardware keys but they don't cripple the device in my own opinion. To be honest since I use a Note II for my phone it's helped the transition familiarity wise and I do think this was intentional more so than just developer laziness.
I would like to make a note I do own a 10.1 note also and I still do prefer my 8.0 at this point to it's use. Yes, I do wish Samsung would up build quality as of casing for these devices, but they are by far hindered by this. To be totally honest the plastic casing on my Note II and 10.1 has held up tremendously well to some nasty drops and spills, far better in fact than anything I've had with a more premium styled enclosure. That being said I do dislike the plastic creekyness which is very much noticeable with my 10.1.
The Note 8.0 strikes me as this, a great medium. It's not quite a full blown 10" media tablet and at the same time it's not quite so cramped as those 7" tablets available. As of the S-Pen functionality I honestly just think it's a plus. Even without it I would prefer these devices to most of the other comparable android devices in the US market at the moment.
When it comes to ROM development I would just say be patient. It's a new device with a definite premium price. It might take awhile but the forum on XDA just now really appeared within the last 24 hours and it might just take some time to get things going. That being said I would imagine the similarities to the Note II may speed up development once we have a recovery and such.
As a footnote, I've ordered this keyboard case which is due to arrive Tuesday and I will try give it a proper in depth review ASAP.
I apologize for this post being somewhat disordered and all over the place. I'm tired but I wanted to post something and participate in the forum. It's been ages since I have. Thanks everyone and have a good night!
I can agree with your post. I have a Note 8 and 10.1, Note 2, Nexus 7, amd GS3. The Note 8 is good in every way size, function, battery, software, and decent screen. The only issue is the captive buttons. They interfer with the usability at times, so if im watching hulu and holding the device one might hit the back arrow and stop the movie. How annoying. Other than that its my go to device
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Well said! I've owned the GS3 and own the Note 2, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, Evo 4g LTE, and Nexus 4 and believe me the Note 8.0 is one of the top devices out there. Even though Im not a big fan of the plastic build quality I will say that it does hold up and it feels at least like expensive plastic lol. This device is quality and though Im not purchasing the GS4 simply because I want a change from Samsung the biggest reason is waiting for the Note 3. Development will pick up its only been available for a little while peeps. If your on the fence and want a Apple like quality tablet with Android the Note series of tablets are definitely what you are looking for. Also the amount of software additions in this tablet is rediculous.
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I will also be buying the Note 8 and think that it might turn out to be a great device (escpecially since here in europe it will also sport phone functionatlity), but nonetheless this thread smells like marketing directly paid by samsung (3 posts by OP and then this?). Sorry OP if untrue; i know that i might be completely wrong ("in dubio pro rero" etc.) but still my gut feelings tell me otherwise.
i sincereley hope the Note 8 will be a great device and have owned more or less every single one of the latest samsung smartphone / tablet gadgets, but being sensitized / aware of the latest news regarding samsungs marketing tatics to pay people to write positive comments in forums like this i am extremely pissed of by this pracise. apart of being unethical (in whatever holistic sense i am not able to properly articulate in english) this is simply not necessary, because most of the samsung devices i own / have owned are great, but the smell of being produced by such a kind of manufacturer spoils the joy. stop this an let (your very good, indeed) products speak for themselves.
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I will also be buying the Note 8 and think that it might turn out to be a great device (escpecially since here in europe it will also sport phone functionatlity), but nonetheless this thread smells like marketing directly paid by samsung (3 posts by OP and then this?). Sorry OP if untrue; i know that i might be completely wrong ("in dubio pro rero" etc.) but still my gut feelings tell me otherwise.
i sincereley hope the Note 8 will be a great device and have owned more or less every single one of the latest samsung smartphone / tablet gadgets, but being sensitized / aware of the latest news regarding samsungs marketing tatics to pay people to write positive comments in forums like this i am extremely pissed of by this pracise. apart of being unethical (in whatever holistic sense i am not able to properly articulate in english) this is simply not necessary, because most of the samsung devices i own / have owned are great, but the smell of being produced by such a kind of manufacturer spoils the joy. stop this an let (your very good, indeed) products speak for themselves.
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I can assure you I'm not affiliated with samsung lol. I'm a court officer in Midwest City Oklahoma. I wish I was a Samsung rep though, I'd bet the pay is better than what I'm doing now xD
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I agree on the screen size thing.
The nexus 7 with a 16:9 screen at 7 inches sort of feels like a super large smartphone with insignificant space to pinch and zoom while on landscape.
My current 7.9 inch with a 4:3 screen ratio feels just right with significant space to pinch and zoom on landscape while making web pages somewhat more spacious for a desktop like experience.
Only draw back in the black bars but once again I am still using a old school 4:3 monitor at home
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I am sorry for my unnecessarily rude writing of yesterday; please accept my apologies.
I just came from reading the articels on arstechnica and our local newspaper on the mentioned (presumed) practice of samsung in korea and england before coming here in order to research about my new / future "baby" (Note 8). The first post I've read was yours, and I was like "oh my god, I can't believe it, it's indeed happening!" so I couldn't resist... (<--- I know, this doesn't make my rude behaviour better, just maybe a bit more understandable.)
LOL, do you think they pay that much? then I might also consider to enhance my meager daytime income (scientist now becoming a teacher) ...
again: sorry from my side and back on topic - good to hear that the Note serves you well I am a bit hesitating to order it due to the screen resolution; I tried to replace an Ipad (retina) with the Note 10.1, but couldn't stand the fuzziness of the screen, although I like the overall android tablet experience much more than the iOS thing.
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I can assure you I'm not affiliated with samsung lol. I'm a court officer in Midwest City Oklahoma. I wish I was a Samsung rep though, I'd bet the pay is better than what I'm doing now xD
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Thanks for your review and thoughts on this. I am going to check it out in person this weekend and give it a go, I had the GN 10.1 for a few days but felt it just wan't a good fit for the resolution of a large device. Still I prefer Android over anything else and looking at ditching my current tab and finally be rid of the last Apple product in my house
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again: sorry from my side and back on topic - good to hear that the Note serves you well I am a bit hesitating to order it due to the screen resolution; I tried to replace an Ipad (retina) with the Note 10.1, but couldn't stand the fuzziness of the screen, although I like the overall android tablet experience much more than the iOS thing.
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This is the only thing bugging me about it so far. Wonderful In the hand and love the SNote (Note 2 is my phone) but if you're used to high resolution screens the fuzziness is apparent when reading text. Not sure I can take it yet. I just picked up a Nexus 10 and am only going to keep one. The resolution is jarring between them. Going to wait it out a bit more and see. I need to be able to read books on my tablet.
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I have to agree about 8" being the sweet spot. I have had 7" & 10" tabs (and while 7" is more pocketable I like the 8" better) I have been a Note user since the GN I & II, we have some Note 10.1's at work and I really don't care for them. (the s-pen is nice to have for precise input) i was literally using a G Tab 2 7.0 and the GN 8.0 side by side for a day and decided on the Note 8.0 for my daily driver. Allot of i-devices at work but not my preference.
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BR
I got the 3G version, but I use this with tethered wifi with my Note II for internet. The wifi version isn't available in my region.
This is the most decent thread I've read about comparing the Note 8 with other tablets. This is my frst ever tablet, and I find it a relief to do stuff with a bigger screen when I need it like spreadsheets. I used to take attendance with my Note II. Sketching is quite easier too. I found the Note 10.1 too heavy as a portable Cintique stand-in. The Note 8 is lighter and easier to handle.
I can't see any point in getting anything without a Wacom sytlus after getting the first Galaxy Note more than a year and a half ago. I do detailed digital art as a hobby, and I'm weilding the Autodesk Sketchbook and Photoshop Touch to do photo-realistic art. The S Pen is such a useful addition!
I have my Note II as my main, but for times I need a bigger screen, the Note 8 is what I take out. I just wished with had a changeable battery. 8 hours of actual screen on time isn't enough for me. I do hate plugging in to an outlet or portable power to maintain a charge, unlike what I'm doing with my Note II with 12 hours of heavy usage at about 6 to 7 hours of screen time. I usually change battery late afternoon. I can't do that with the Note 8 - I'm guessing that the Samsung team did this for our dependency for the smartphones.
Bottom line for the Note 8 for me is it's what I do need. I don't complain of its plastic exterior. I appreciate it's more powerful than the other tablets for my digital art hobby with the Wacom digitizer onboard. The screen is crisp enough and I don't see the point of having this in full HD (more power consumption) and the 720p resolution it has is sufficient. Do you honestly see the pixels? I just wished it was a Super AMOLED and it could have given the Note 8 better power efficiency. Currently, the screen consumes 80% of the battery life.
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I have had very good luck thus far using the Note 8 the entire day. I also use it in conjunction with the Note II and at this point, I feel I have the Nirvana of tech combos. Pretty happy all around here. I dont tether mine to my phone though, as I have a little prepaid hotspot to use out and about. For extended periods where I know I'll be away, like my backpacking trips on weekends, I bring a 10000mah portable battery and keep it in my pack/bag. I have only had to use it once, and that was to charge the Note 2
Yes, there are bigger, yes there are "better" specced devices, but honestly the SPen and a device I can literally use as a notepad replacement has changed my life as a network admin. I can't fathom going back to paper and pen.
I have to agree with the positive opinions expressed here. I love my 5110, especially after I rooted it. The lesser screen resolution doesn't bother me much, my eyes aren't that good anyway. The system's responsiveness and smoothness are a real joy.
What I DON'T love is the way available storage memory shrinks with each new generation of device from Samsung. 16 GB is small enough, but when half of that is taken up by the system, it borders on false advertising.
We need to start a letter-writing campaign to Samsung to get them to (a) change their firmware to allow apks to be stored and run from the external SD card, and OTA it to us as soon as possible, and (b) make 32GB the absolute minimum for internal storage on any future devices. Having to use workarounds is ridiculous.
Who's with me?
mudge
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I have to agree with the positive opinions expressed here. I love my 5110, especially after I rooted it. The lesser screen resolution doesn't bother me much, my eyes aren't that good anyway. The system's responsiveness and smoothness are a real joy.
What I DON'T love is the way available storage memory shrinks with each new generation of device from Samsung. 16 GB is small enough, but when half of that is taken up by the system, it borders on false advertising.
We need to start a letter-writing campaign to Samsung to get them to (a) change their firmware to allow apks to be stored and run from the external SD card, and OTA it to us as soon as possible, and (b) make 32GB the absolute minimum for internal storage on any future devices. Having to use workarounds is ridiculous.
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I'm with you on B. A is harder insofar as I understand it the changes were in AOSP so it's really Google and not Samsung to blame for not being able to transfer apps to sd. It's getting silly now paticularly with the s4 which has about 7.8gb of usable storage. 9gb is closer to 8gb than 16 gb so it's kind of deceptive to call it 16gb. Many consumers who don't do enough research before buying will be quite disappointed.
Flash memory is actually pretty cheap now and Samsung manufacture it. It's time to stop being so tight Samsung.
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l purchased it without seeing it and I am very satisfied with it. would definitely recommend
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A review from a former Asus Transformer Pad TF300T user

Recently, I sent my TF300T in for an RMA (after to owning it for 4 months) for it to come back in a worse condition with the plastic case popping out, glass not bonded properly, scratches and a badly scuffed charger/adaptor. I live in the UK and it was the retailer's responsibility to fix the tablet, so when it came back with problems I was offered a replacement or a different tablet of my choice. I chose the Note 10.1. I've had the tablet for around 3 days.
Display
The Note 10.1s display is better than the TF300s. On the Asus Transformer Pad the whites appeared yellow and I had light bleed along the right side of the screen. My Note only has a small amount of bleed along the right side which is only really noticeable in a dark room. Banding was also an issue on the TF300 due to the use of a cheap screen. This doesn't seem to be apparent on the Note 10.1...
Performance
The TF300T suffers constant lags due to the use of cheap NAND flash memory, this caused the browser to repeatedly suffer 'Force close' messages, this doesn't seem to happen on the Note :good:. Running Androbench my Note 10.1 also beats the TF300T.
The processor bests the Tegra 3 found in the TF300T. The extra 1GB of RAM also helps :highfive:
Build Quality
The reviews I read criticised the Note for poor build quality and that it feels 'cheap'. Personally, I think it feels more high end than the TF300T as there appears to be no creaking, unlike my TF300 (which the back felt soft and the left side of the bezel creaked).
Other points
The S-Pen is also intuitive and is a useful addition. Android 4.1 on the Note 10.1 also mostly feels smooth.
Looks like I'm a happy owner :laugh:
Glad to hear you like your new Note 10.1.
I love mine. I use it for work, play, reading, etc. I barely touch my laptop anymore.
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i'm also comes from tf300t too. Tf300t only good with hdmi port, keyboard dock and software update really fast. The rest ( performance, battery, screen...) are really sucks though.
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my previous android tab was a very low end micromax funbook i think it is called allwinner(not even worth comparing it to this) internationally and when i saw this tab when my nice came here for her holidays it blew me away and i just wanted it got it and im loving it The Spen is nice im just getting the feel of it and getting to understand on the same
i just love this Tab it great way beyond my budget but thanks to samsung having an offer on CC were u dont need to pay any precessing or interest on buying it i got it :laugh::good::good::laugh:
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...I barely touch my laptop anymore.
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Me too.
To OP, I agree totally. I recently had the chance to play with my moms TF300, and must say, my GN10.1 is a much nicer experience. Hers kept hanging up and force closing things. She had wanted me to root it so I could remove bloat and try to help it run faster, but I was unable to since reading up and seeing the complex process needed to do so. I was 800 miles away from my fast wifi and laptop and she only had dial up available to me. I was unable to help it and I think it is worse now with 4.1.2 on it from what she says.
i'm also coming from a TF300T and noticed a big difference with the Note.
The whole user experience (even if you don't use the S-pen) is much better, much more stable, smooth and faster overall.
I don't use the s-pen tho, it looks interesting but i mostly use the note on some surface (table, lap, etc) and it's not pratical to use it that way with the pen, i don't miss the s-pen either so may next tablet will probably not be a note, but right now the note is still worth it anyway for the general performance and smoothness, i think it's still the most smooth 10" tablet available.
For me the only drawback is the resolution, although perfectly sufficient it would be nice to have a higher resolution.
Former TF300T user here, too. Tablets perform like night & day. I was fed up with all the stutters on the TF300T. Yes, I DO miss the hdmi out, but the performance & benefits of the Note ae much greater. Plus, I have the Note 2, so I can sync s-notes between them both.
I came from the original Transformer, actually, but I think it's tough to compare the 300T, a budget model, with the Note, the flagship tablet of Samsung..
In any case, I loved the color and look of my Transformer, but I also love the color and look of my Note. I just wish the Note had a keyboard dock as well. That would make my Note completely irreplaceable.
I came from the TF700 and don't miss the overheating slow as molasses tablet at all. ASUS can go to hell.

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