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I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
briandap said:
I currently own the Asus Transformer 16gb model. Is there anyone here who has opted for the Tab after using/owning the Transformer? If so what are your thoughts?
I feel the Transformer screen isn't very sensitive and feel i have to press pretty hard sometimes. Is the Tab any better?
Also I feel the Tab may have more of development community.
thanks!
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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This is a question for the general area really, but we are also very nice here in the SGT10.1 threads, so I will also answer your question. Touchscreen is awesome in responsiveness in my opinion, and I like it a lot more than the transformer. Also, the devs we have here, a couple so far, have been working on other devices, like my Captivate, and they are all top notch. Lots of breakthroughs in the last 3 days and we are awaiting a brand new kernel which will make this thing fly
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Yeah sorry to throw it in DEV but I figured it included questions regarding ROMs and such My bad.
I can still return the Transformer to Amazon and get the Tab but I want to make sure it's worth keeping. Have they fixed the lag issues and such with the 3.1 update?
I don't own a transformer but the tab is amazing. The screen is amazing. And the dev support is already pretty heavy after only a fee days. The update for touchwiz also looks neat. If ur happy with stock honeycomb I think there is an option but its always good to have more then one choice.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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This is my list too. I owned it for about 2 weeks and returned it as well. I am not looking back. The speakers on the transformer suck compared to the 10.1. Display's are both good, but the TF has horrible light bleed, build quality is awesome. This will be the first device I've purchased in a long time that will not need to be exchanged or returned.
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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
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I owned a transformer for a week and returned it. I never regret a bit since I got the Galaxy tab 10.1 on the national launch date.
Reasons:
1. Build quality (big big difference)
2. GPS reception
3. Speaker quality
4. Display quality
5. Style (big difference)
To me these 5 reasons are well worthy to throw in an extra $100 and give up micro sd slot plus the mini HDMI slot.
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I like them both
I own both devices and I love the tab so much that it is hard to put it down. The transformer get little attention now and will probably get sold, but I like it as well.
The colors and brightness on the tab are much better. I keep my brightness at about 30% and it is as bright as the transformer at 70%. Blues on the transformer are a little gray compared. The IPS display is great, but the view angles on the tab are still good.
The weight, thickness and build quality. The edges are smooth and feels nice in the hand. The transformer have sharp edges and tend to hurt after a while and is also a little heavier.
Sound quality is better and overall screen response is better
3.1 is smoother on the tab. I think Asus could have put a little more effort in 3.1 before releasing it. It seem they spent more time in adding the eye candy over performance.
I do like having the HDMI and microSD ports but in relity I never really used anything but the MicroSD slot, so I can live without them. I use online storage for my music file so the extra storage is no big deal. I don't need to keep tons of movies on the device and don't plan on using it as a media server for my home. It will be used to entertain me while away from home.
There a two apps on the transformer that I wished I had on the tab - MyLibrary and (MyCloud that include SplashTop - currently does not work on the tab).
The tab is about 1/2" shorter, but I think Asus added the extra length so that it matches with the dock.
The carmers - I am not planning on using the device to take photos or make movies, so the quality is no big deal for me.
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Same for me, sold my Transformer the day the Sammy came out .... my only gripe is the damned typing lag on ANY website. This seems to be a Honeycomb issue because both the ASUS and the Samsung have it. Qualitywise (build) the Sammy is far far better.
However I can also understand why the Apple folks love their iPads. I played with one today at the mall and the scroll speed flipping between screens is untouchable by any android device and the 3rd party hardware available everywhere from Walmart to Brookstone is endless. You'll never see that happen to android because there are just too many incarnations. Problem is I hate "square" screens, they are so 90's. If the iPad had the same widescreen form factor as the Android devices I might have had to make a tough decision.
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Switching from the Samsung keyboard to the stock android keyboard fixed alot of the lag. Switching to the dolphin HD browser fixed almost the rest of the lag. An overclocked kernel should take care of the rest.
I have to agree with everyone else here. Returned my Transformer and Dock for the Galaxy Tab. The weight alone sold me. But the camera quality and the display quality sealed it. You will not regret exchanging the Asus for this one.
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GT10.1 > Transformer > iPad 2 > Xoom (We all know it).
I returned my Transformer after a little over a week of having it and ordered the Tab 10.1. I have absolutely no regrets at all. The Transformer had light leak issues on 5 places on the screen, 0 with the Tab. The rounded corners on the Tab are much nicer than the sharp squared corners on the Transformer. The tab weighs less, and is thinner which makes it feel much better in the hand. The flash on the camera is nice, and having vibrate functionality is very nice when typing and getting alerts. The overall build quality seems nicer, so I really don't think you would regret returning your Transformer and going with a Tab 10.1.
I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I've done some reseaerch about all these tablets and yes the build quality on the Transformer laging a bit. I have one. The reason I went with the transformer is the micro sd and keyboard. Second reason, samsung lags on updates!!!!!. I have a captivate, have been running Andromeda3 since samsung doesn't update. Anyway, my screen seems really sensitive, I barely touch the screen and it registers. Yes speakers suck but other than that the transformer is very good, battery life is amazing, dock is nice. I don't have any light leaks either. I was this forum to check out rom dev. Compared to transformer one. One more note. If you want an Ipad get one not a clone
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I think that this thread has been tolerated as the development is just now stepping up. However, whether you are joking or not, its comments like yours that just make people mad.
Samsung lags in there updates? This we know. That's why we are here, hovering in the dev section, waiting for these awesome guys to work their magic and unlock the full potential of these devices.
Everyone here is open to comments from helpful users trying to help better the development community and make it a great place to learn and play with our toys. Your comment, and all of its opinions, need to be in the Section market "General" as it does not pertain to the Android development on the SGT10.1 platform.
I have a 10.1v and a friend has a Transformer...
The 10.1v bezel is much slimmer than the Transformer and easily to carry.
It is way lighter too, and it is very significant.
Only plus that the Transformer's screen looks sharper and brighter... at least to me.
I went from the TF to the GT and haven't looked back since. I also sold my iPad and haven missed it since getting the GT.
Basically, what it came down to is... If you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, stick with the TF. Period!
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I had two Transformers, each for a couple weeks at a time. Now I've had my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for almost a week.
I think the ASUS Transformer is extremely competitive against the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it was an agonizing decision between the two. They have very different strengths and weakness.
What I love about the Transformer is it's low price, the micro SD and mini HDMI ports, and keyboard dock that turns a tablet into a netbook. But the Transformer has very poor speakers and the bezel is extra wide and has corners, the tablet is somewhat uncomfortable in portrait mode.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is super light, great rounded bezel, just absolutely wonderful to hold. PLS display has great colors. But no micro SD, the accessories are very expensive and suck big compared to the ASUS keyboard dock. You'll spend $150 on the Samsung keyboard dock and adapters and still get much less functionality than with the same priced ASUS keyboard dock.
I know I'll need more than 16GB of storage. With the Transformer I was able to spend $400 for the 16GB model and use the 16GB micro SD card I already owned (you can get them on Amazon for $18-25). Lack of micro SD means I had to buy the $600 Galaxy Tab 10.1.
So why did I think the Galaxy Tab 10.1 was worth spending $200 more on? I mostly consume content with my tablet, watch videos, surf the web, read ebooks and mangas. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a pure tablet, it's light and very comfortable and has a great colorful display.
The Transformer is awesome because it can be a netbook. But I decided as cool as that is. I'm not sure Android is really up to the task of really being a laptop or even Windows netbook replacement. I'm not sure I'd see myself actually using that keyboard all that much, as I'd probably rather just get out the laptop instead.
I'm pretty happy with my decision now. Just really hope Samsung is more punctual with it's updates. Because Android 3.x really needs some updating.
I got the 32GB version of the TF. I like ASUS products and have a few of their laptops and have used their motherboards for years. So when the TF came out I got it right away. After playing with it for a few days I noticed how cheaply built it was and the first time I tried to watch a movie in the dark I freaked out! The backlight leakage was crazy bad. I took it back and got another one and it was worse. The backing of the TF was loose and made a creaking sound. The light leakage was worse than the first and the power button failed after 5 days. I took the second one back and got a third. Went to my car and went over it before I left Frys and it had all the same problems. Walked back in and got my money back. ASUS you drooped the ball big time with the TF.
After all that, I got the Galaxy 10.1 and was blown away with the total quality of the thing. Not one issue. Its perfect.
I love this thing and have used it every day.
Good luck to whoever got the TF. Hope yours doesn't have the issues my three different ones had.
I ditched my TF, i can tell you why in one word, Comfort.
I loved my TF, but compared to the Tab it feels bulky and heavy to hold.
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So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
Just go down to your local brick and mortar and play with one for an hour and decide for yourself. Or, if you're incapable of deciding for yourself then head down to the Apple retail store and the geniuses will happily tell you what to buy.
S Pen is very accurate (I haven't seen anyone complain about it being off a little) and very responsive.
It's as not fluid as an iPad, but should be fluid enough. I actually returned Asus Transformer Infinity before buying this one, and I can say that Note 10.1 is ten time more fluid than Transformer Infinity. It addition, with Jelly Bean (with Project Butter) update coming within this year it will be much better. I don't think you will feel like you need Jelly Bean though because it already works smoothly as is.
Coming from iPad 2, the screen will look amazing with higher resolution. However, if fluidity is your priority, iPad is probably the best choice. But I have a feeling that you will be happy with this device.
My wife was fed up with her iPad 2 (it was free, though, a business gift) . When I had my SGN10.1 she played around with it for 1hr , got in her car and went to buy her own SGN10.1 ....... :good:
Earthdog said:
So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
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Gingerbread??? Tab 10.1 was Honeycomb... That said it had a Tegra2, Tegras are notorious for being first on the market to bump up core count but horrendously poor performance per core, and oddly, some of the worst GPU performance which is odd considering that NVidia is a GPU company.
If you're happy with the I9300, you should be happy with the N80xx - Same resolution and exact same CPU/GPU.
In addition, once Jellybean hits, UI performance should be significantly improved... Assuming Samsung doesn't dork it up. Might want to look at how the I9300 Jellybean leak is performing.
Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
Earthdog said:
Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Just return my Asus TF700 and bought my second Note(first one went to U of Iowa with my daughter) and couldn't be happier.
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This is not a hard choice. The iPad is a very different device if your into pen. If the question is about the pen being solid, it's solid.
Feel secure that your getting good pen from this.
I came from the iPad. I've been trying to switch to Android for over a year. Of the half dozen Android tablets I've tried, the Note 10.1 is my switching device. Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping the iPad mostly because my daughter uses it for some games and secondly because there are some games I like that Android doesn't have (Kingdom Rush!).
So yeah, my retina iPad has been reduced to sloppy seconds.
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I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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Mafiatounes said:
I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
I had the iPad1 the day it came out, and the iPad2 when it came out. The only reason I bought either tablet was that I wanted to use it for taking notes (without needing pen and paper) and reading PDF's (in a more natural way than on a laptop), and they only did one of those things. I sold my iPad2 a few months ago, and have just now picked up the Note 10.1. Me like!
The build quality is a little lower than I've been used to with the iPad, but feels acceptable in the hand.
The note-taking software is a little rough around the edges, as if Samsung doesn't realize they can tap into a HUGE education market with it.
In terms of taking notes in class, it's everything I ever hoped for -- the digitizer is very accurate, super rarely messes up.
Lack of high-res screen is disappointing, but it still looks a lot better than my iPad ever did!
The whole point of the Note 10.1 is taking notes and drawing. Hopefully Samsung will realize this at some point and polish up the rough edges and market it for education, ie. taking notes in class, but 'til then it's a fine tablet as is.
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
Mafiatounes said:
Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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I know some people yell about specs that they only heard about without knowing what it adds, but it is not in my case, i usually browse a lot and i also hate seeing big pixels like for example on the iPad 2, this is what i liked about the New iPad the browsing experience was quitte good (with Chrome) and i could not see any pixels in normal use. That is why it will be the most important for me on a tablet.
I've had a lot of experience with Samsung and HTC in the past and it was the same as you HTC was a master, but if the Note 10.1 resembles the S3 that i own now than it will be the tab to beat. Samsung improved a lot since the Galaxy S in terms of software implementation and support at least this is what i experience now on my S3.
The only time you will notice the resolution difference with the Note is if you are trying to read really tiny text. Othewise this screen looks totally amazing.
That being said it all comes down to the s-pen. If you want a pen get the Note, if not get the ipad.
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So far, quite nice. Its definitely nicer tham the N7. It matches my GNote 2 quite nicely. I hope Seido comes out with a case for it. The case at Best Buy was too pricey and not what I really wanted. $49, a bit steep for a note book cover.
I think my N7 has seen the lasts of its days, but only if I can convince wifey to let me keep this.
Just wanted to say hello and share my initial experiences. Its very comfortable to hold.
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I love the feel of it in the hand, I think the weight is about perfect for a device like this. It's pretty nice using it as a notepad with how good the SPen works too.
That said, I think the placement of the capacitive buttons feels way off. In portrait which seems like the desired orientation the buttons feel too pushed in toward the center to reach naturally. It feels nothing like my note 2 in that respect. I think it's to avoid the problem you have in landscape where the buttons are easy to hit. Either way feels off, and there should be an option to turn them off. However, being able to press them with the stylus is long overdue, the phone should have that tech.
Best thing about this tablet is how good it gets SPen usage, it's the best most useable version Samsung's made in my opinion. If you mainly take handwritten notes, this is the best tablet I've tried.
Worst thing is screen resolution. If you're used to nice, high pixel density screens this is a major downgrade. It looks as bad as the iPad mini to me despite having better ppi. I looked at it in the store trying to judge this very thing, but once I got it home and started reading on it the text blur immediately started to bother me. I'm a heavy reader and this part is bumming me out. The reading mode just adds a sort of sepia tint to the page to reduce glare it can't magically make the text crisper.
I haven't tried much reading, I plan on using it more for work. I probably could have used the Nexus 7, but, I love the Note products that line.
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Had one since yesterday and it's very nice. Coming from a Nexus 7 and a Note 10.1. This is my favourite things about each combined into the one package. I get the nice portable size of the N7, combined with the multi window and s-pen of the note 10.1. the 10.1 was just too bulky for me and it's been collecting dust ever since I got the Note 2.
The screen resolution hasn't really phased me, I guess coming from the 10.1 has helped a lot in those regards. While things look fuzzy on that thing this looks nice and sharp in comparison.
I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but the software seems a bit more optimised on this one too. There was a slight lag on the 10.1 but this is every bit as buttery smooth as the experience on my Note 2. Good work Samsung, getting better all the time.
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Warrior1975 said:
So far, quite nice. Its definitely nicer tham the N7.
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Can you describe the nicer terms?I am just confused about that.
dr.m0x said:
I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but the software seems a bit more optimised on this one too. There was a slight lag on the 10.1 but this is every bit as buttery smooth as the experience on my Note 2. Good work Samsung, getting better all the time.
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In some of the online reviews I read, they mentioned that the N8 felt a lot smoother then the 10.1. It does seem they tweaked the software for better performance (as well as having some software features and customer gripes on the 10.1 apparently corrected). And some of it may be due to the slightly better CPU.
Picked one up yesterday to replace my N7 as well. This thing is as fast as my laptop, browsing is buttery smooth and pages load extremely quick. IT feels a lot lighter and thinner than the N7 and definitely a huge step up in perf.
While the DPI/res of the screen is OK, the colors and black level are superior to the N7. Videos look fantastic. And finally I get more storage with a SD card slot.
Grabbed one too. After putting up with the ridiculous lag on an ASUS TF700 it's a joy to use the Note 8 just for its response time and buttery smoothness. Already rooted mine.
Also found a cheap case on Amazon that appears to support the on/off function -- screen goes off when I close it, comes back on when I open it up.
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Galaxy Note 2 + 8
Got mine today. Also came from N7. It's much snappier and the screen is lovely!
The pen is great too!
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Can you describe the nicer terms?I am just confused about that.
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Performance, look wise, basically everything. All around better.
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Had one since yesterday and it's very nice. Coming from a Nexus 7 and a Note 10.1. This is my favourite things about each combined into the one package. I get the nice portable size of the N7, combined with the multi window and s-pen of the note 10.1. the 10.1 was just too bulky for me
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Exact same for me. Just sold my Note 10.1 today...luckily for the same price I bought it for! So that's a win. LOL Like you...also had the Nexus 7 and so far this seems to be the best of both worlds.
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I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but the software seems a bit more optimised on this one too. There was a slight lag on the 10.1 but this is every bit as buttery smooth as the experience on my Note 2. Good work Samsung, getting better all the time.
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Well, the processor is a bit faster and might have better architecture (not my area to really say) which might be a little of what you're experiencing. I also noticed when my Note 10.1 started to fill up...had about 2gb left of free space on internal storage...it was starting to get little lag spikes as well. We'll see if the 8.0 has that issues since I plan to install the same apps!
I agree, also got one this week and was pleasantly surprised, way better than I expected - best Samsung tablet I've ever used.
I've had mine for a few days now. Coming from every tab you can think of (I'm a bit of an android junky and write for an android site ). Most recently the Nexus 10 and 7.
A few pros - Snappy tablet, s pen works well, nice size, decent battery life, attractive looking tablet and the cameras are fine.
A few cons - Screen is very grainy (look at your notifications in the top left before you pull down the notification bar and your app icons), menu and back buttons are poorly placed (Samsung should have went with on screen for this size. I hit the back and menu buttons way to much in landscape), of course the cheap plastic feel and finally the price tag ($427 is pretty steep for a 16 gig).
These are just a few pros and cons (quickly written on a CIG break at work). I love the tablet, but my two big gripes are the screen and the price tag. Other than that I recommend this tablet to anyone seeking a tablet this size. Now let's hope this tab gets a lot of dev love (that brings me back to the price tag).
Edit. My beef with the screen is most likely because I'm coming from a Nexus 10 (best tablet screen I've ever seen) and a DNA (best phone screen I've ever seen). The screen on the Note 8.0 is fine.... just very grainy coming from those devices.
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If you had a choice would you buy the Asus TF300T again?
Personally, I maybe about to switch to the Galaxy Note 10.1 as my Asus TF300T has been sent in for RMA due to banding (something inherent in 4.2, and not an issue it turns out). Anyway, I think I may have the chance to say 'if you can't fix it, I don't want it to my retailer (UK)'.
The things I like about the tablet are:
Fast updates
Smooth (at least some of the time)
The dock
It's creak free (mostly)
The things I dislike:
Very very slow internal storage makes the tablet lag
Creaking from the left bezel
Constant force close messages (improved a bit in 4.2, but still occasionally happening due to I/O issues)
Slow web browsing (improved partially since 4.2)
Edit: Just received my tablet back and it's in a worse condition. I'm now exchanging it with my retailer for a Note 10.1.
i wouldn't cause of the screen quality... i would probably go for a nexus 10
At the price I got mine at...yeah I would.
At the price I got mine (close to 400 euros, last summer), I wouldn't buy it again now. It's a good tablet, has been serving me very well, but technology has moved on and expectations have increased.
If I HAD to buy a tablet now, I would go for something cheaper, a nexus 7 would be okay or something at that price. Very similar to the TF300 in capabilities and much cheaper.
(btw, I use my tablet mostly for educational purposes... to read books, browser the web, youtube etc)
I am waiting for the next generation of tablets where 400 euros will buy me much more than the TF300 currently offers.
Yes, I would buy it again if it was at the same price I originally bought the 32gb tablet for $299 and the blue dock for $49.
I'm very happy with the TF300T. It does everything I need it to. The great Devs we have in the section are an added bonus.
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For me personally, I wouldn't buy it again because mine got give me a bit of issues when the touchscreen didn't work properly only after two weeks of having it before i teared the whole thing apart and fixed it which is still a bit wonky but i can cope with it.
But the device itself works very well but like what other have said, the technology with this tablet is a bit outdated compared to other tablet but the form factor of the tablet being able to transform to a netbook is what made me buy it.
If anything I might go with the tf700 as my next tablet or a future generation of the transformer series
I upgraded to the tf300t from a tf100 and I'm really happy with it. I don't like Android on tablets in general, I use Ubuntu mostly as it brings out the full potential, and makes it more of a netbook.
Build quailty isn't great mine scratches really easy being a white model and compared to my tf101 doesn't feel as sturdy. I previously had a samsung windows 8 hybrid tablet that cost waay more than the tf300t and the built quailty was terrible and the Intel atom processor was nothing on the performance of the tegra 3 not to mention the gpu on the tegra is about 5 times faster. I beleive the tf300 is well worth the price.
Although id proberly buy the tf700 if I had another chance.
Hmmm... Is this question asking "if you were to walk into a store today, would you buy the TF300T?" or more like "If you could go back in time, would you still buy it?"
I bought mine right after it launched. My only other real choices were the TF201, the Acer A500 (I think that was the model number; might have been the A510 or something), a Samsung Tab 2, or wait several months for the TF700. If I were to go back to that point in time, I would probably still buy it as it was the best option available.
If I were shopping for a tablet today, I would pass up the TF300T and get a Nexus 10. That's a no-brainer to me. It costs the same as I paid for my TF300T with a way better screen and dev community (not that our dev community isn't great, but let's face it; the TF300T isn't a Nexus).
No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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I got a tab 2 I'd trade ya
i wouldn't, keyboard is more novelty then useful for me and the tab is a bit too big for the task i use it for, i would just get a nexus 7...or something in that market
maybe if i didn't have a newer laptop and the tf300t was my main laptop then i would be singing a different tune...
I certainly wouldn't. A couple of days after creating this thread my tablet came back in a worse condition. I'm now about to exchange it for a Note 10.1
I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery. It's more likely that my next tablet will be iPad Mini or something really worthy on Android.
But I can't say this tablet is bad. It's okay but there are still some issues I really don't want to face again.
never ever asus again now switch samsung tab
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If I was to buy one today, I voted no. Back when I bought it for the price I got it for, yes. It was the best option for $280 when I bought it during the boxing week sale as no other comparable tablet was within a hundred bucks in my area.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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Agreed :good:
I'm very happy with my TF300T with CM10.1. Traded it for an Ipad. It was the best trade IMO.
Maybe I never had a Samsung so I don't notice the lag. The creaking from the left bezel is the only thing that annoys me.
Maybe it's just me but ... running the Tablet with CROMI 4.2.1 (4.5) with Hunds Kernel at 1.6 ghz...
For 250 $ (refurb) ... It's running flawlessly and it's fast.
Very pleased with it.
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I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery.
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Could you describe in a little more detail why you are completely disappointed in these three areas?
Tegra 3: Not the fastest but it's a pretty decent processor. Certainly not of the slower ones out there. I think the TF300T is having some performance issues due to its sloooow internal storage (the I/O issue). Where does the Tegra 3 disappoint you?
TF300 screen: I had the chance to check out a Samsung Note 10.1. The screen looked 'better' in the sense of more color saturation and less distance between the display and the surface (not that the TF300 is bad at this). But it wasn't a huge difference. What I wish was better on the TF300, is the glass. It's not very scratch resistant. Why are you completely disappointed in the TF300 screen?
battery: I think the TF300 has a pretty standard/expected battery life. Not outstanding but not too short either. I personally charge once per day or every couple of days. Are there tablets out there with substantially better battery life? The reviews I've seen do not point to such conclusion. (Perhaps you would get an extra hour or two at best?)
I have tested the 2014, but extrapolating with the T701, since had previous iterations w/KB and still have the TF300 (wife does anyway), plus reviews popping up now.
Up front, prefer the 2014 due to smaller surface footprint (less bezel), no proprietary charger / data transfer cable and IMO a better overall chipset than the Tegra 4 and I "could" see myself using the pen function. More precise touch and lesser getting the display all mucked up.
The biggie though for the 701 is $150 less and the KB option opens up more connectivity. That said, I did not use the KB much with the previous versions.
Looking forward to some direct comparisons of both devices, none the less. Assuming the media does after their raptures of lustful reviews and focus when the iPad Air and Mini 2 release. Might need to wait for
user reviews.
Well I had the TF700 and just upgraded to the new note 10.1. Before the TF700 I had the TF201. Asus really screwed the pooch on the memory on those and I don't trust them anymore. I had the KB, but the thing that I used it most for was to just charge the tab because of said proprietary port. The only thing I think I will miss is the USB on the dock. But I will just get a USB otg cable and call it a day. I have had the note for a few days and the spen is much more useful than the KB dock in my opinion. Also I think the Tegra 4 is not as good as the exynos. The tegra chips always seem just a tad behind the other leading chip sets.
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I owned both the original Transformer and also the Prime(which they screwed up so bad with the metal back). I was going to wait for the T701 looked at it and compared it and feel the Note 10.1 is a much better premium tablet. The T701 looks just like the Prime with a better screen resolution. I have been using the 10.1 since day one, no issues at all and it's very fast. It has more memory, S-Pen, Multi tasking, those things alone should make your decision for you.. yes pricey but worth it for a top of the line tablet. Oh did mention the stereo speakers. ?. Excellent sound compared to the dinky little Speaker on the TF701.
I had the Asus TF700 before the 2014 Edition of the Note 10.1. And there is a world of difference between them. I was initially excited about the TF700 with the hardware keyboard, extended battery, USB, etc, but I grew to really hate that tablet. It was so laggy, so slow, so cheaply assembled, etc. Battery life was actually pretty horrible (worse than my old Galaxy Tab 10.1). Custom ROMS didn't help. (Well, CM10 did perform OK, I just don't like a lot of things about CM10 and actually rather like Touchwiz.)
I have not looked at the TF701, so this post may not be of any actual help. But after my issues with the TF700 and my wife's issues with her TF101 (which have really paled compared to mine), I am completely done with Asus, especially the Transformer line. They are cheap, low performance, pieces of crap. The Note 10.1 2014 Edition may be $150 more, but it is well worth it. From physical build quality to performance, it is worth it.
I find I don't miss the hardware keyboard at all. My hands were really too big for it anyway. Thumb typing using SwiftKey works better. My son already has an OTG cable, so if I NEED full USB, I'll just borrow it, but I haven't needed it yet. Battery life is much better with this Note than on the ASUS even with the keyboard battery. And the S-Pen is so amazing and fun to use. I've never been as excited about a stylus, but I love the S-Pen.
I have used this Note 10.1 2014 Edition more over the last few days (and have had more fun doing so) than I have used the ASUS over the last several months.
I am coming from the Tf201 and will never go back to an Asus product again. I suffered for almost 2 years with that hunk of junk. Constant freezes, anr, reboots, etc. I was shocked to find out 3 versions later they still have not corrected these issues. So far I'm in love with this device. This is how a tablet should be.I was going to hold out for the Nexus 10 until I read Asus was manufacturing it. Get one, you won't regret it.
Former TF701/dock user here and miss it, but don't miss the lag. Had hopes for the TF701, even had it in the cart at Adorama, but decided the speed and pen features of the 10.1 were worth it and picked it up.
I purchased the TF701 as soon as Amazon got it in stock, sooo much faster than my Tf700. Regrettably the new 701 would disconnect from the dock with the slightest touch, after receiving a replacement - +10 to Amazon for their effort - the second one had the same problem. Well, as much as I loved the form factor of the Transformers I had to say goodby to Asus, screw me once and all that. The Samsung rep at Best Buy convinced me to try the Note 10.1 (2014) and even threw in a 10% discount to match a sale NewEgg had going that day. Bottom line: In my opinion there is no other tablet on the market today that even comes close, and I looked at them all. I almost didn't buy the Note because of the s-pen, reviewers were not too keen on it and it seemed like more Samsung bloat, was I ever wrong, never buying a tablet without it. Install Nova Launcher and this thing flies!
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Install Nova Launcher and this thing flies!
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I too recommend installing a third-party launcher, I use Next launcher 3D and it's beautifully smooth on the 2014 and gives that bit of extra eye-candy this tablet deserves and can easily handle with no loss of performance.
Barry your picture expresses an overlooked feature I feel. The overall size of the Note 2014 is wonderful. The bezels are at about the perfect size for this form factor. It also makes using it in portrait much easier
I have the tf701 without dock but my note 10.1 2014 is my goto tablet. I just love the extra features and the size. The main reason I got the tf701 is because of tegra optimized games and the option for kb dock but so many issues with the dock that I haven't bought one yet. Without the dock it doesn't compare to the note IMO and probably will be going back to amazon.
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I have the tf701 without dock but my note 10.1 2014 is my goto tablet. I just love the extra features and the size. The main reason I got the tf701 is because of tegra optimized games and the option for kb dock but so many issues with the dock that I haven't bought one yet. Without the dock it doesn't compare to the note IMO and probably will be going back to amazon.
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I really dig my Note 10-14. I use an OTG with a multiport USB hub. I can use my wireless keybd and mouse at the same time. And they work flawlessly. Now I can do a lot more of my homework on my tablet. Funny how my laptop seems huge now!
I too use Next Launcher. Tablet is very smooth. Still trying to decide on a browser. Might give next browser a shot. My only gripe at this point is not having the ability to add apps to multi window without rooting and such. I'll eventually root; I always do, but not till there is a custom rom that I think I may like.
Great Tablet!