To all that purchased the note , any regrets that you should have bought the infinity tf700 instead having a 1900x1280 resolution with a super ips plus screen?
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To all that purchased the note , any regrets that you should have bought the infinity tf700 instead having a 1900x1280 resolution with a super ips plus screen?
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I'm sitting here looking at both side by side on my desk. It's really a tough decision which to keep. The Note is really fast and love the pen features - but the plastic back does make it feel a little cheap. The screen resolution on the infinity is truly beautiful, and when it's in the dock, it feels extremely well built. My Infinity does have the usual light bleed along the bottom and right side, the Note has none.
What to do. I have some time to figure this out, but it's going to be difficult as both have their features and faults.
HELLL no! i just returned my infinity and bought the note and its awesome. Sure it doesn't have a high res screen but the screen it has is great. No hiccups so far, its very fast and it doesnt have the i\o issues like asus had. sound is great and plenty loud. touch is very responsive and the s pen works as advertised. I dont mind the plastic either , its pretty sturdy for the build. and the lcd is flush not separating like on my infinity in certain spots lol. It takes a bit for it to charge but it also takes longer for it to depleat. i was on it for a solid 2 hours yesterday just playing with everything and it only went down to 80%, my infinity gave me about 4 hours until it was dead. Screen is way bright enough, i have mine set at about 30% and that is plenty for around the house. Asus really needs to step it up for me to consider thier tablets again, way to many issues. Sure your getting more for your money but if its not quality and doesnt work well does it really matter? Hope this helps :good:
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To all that purchased the note , any regrets that you should have bought the infinity tf700 instead having a 1900x1280 resolution with a super ips plus screen?
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Perhaps this may be too early to say, but i own(ed) infinity for almost a month. I didnt care about spen, split screen but wanted to have as smooth experience of android os as possible. In fact of all key features, I care hd resolution the most, but none the less I picked up galaxy note. So far I am seriously impressed the smoothness and even stability of this device. I have yet to encounter any ANR. The file i couldnt open on mantano readeras it took forever, and thought it originally was due to app itself opens fine on note.
Some major benchmark issue on infinity was io, which got better but never the phone level. So of course i tested on note with rl benchmark. It is a wopping 20s whereas, infinty gets me 80s at the best.
Will give more detailed impression. But for now if you can give up hd, hands down note.
It's a simple choice actually. You want a media toy, get the Infinity. You want a tablet tool, get the Note.
The screen res on the Note won't set any records but it is acceptable. I am guessing they did that because of the pen. A high density screen may have caused screen lag when writing with the pen.
Also remember that we have barely scratched the surface on what they can do with the s-pen. Developers will be creating lots of apps for us. needless to say if you want to do any note taking, the Note is the obvious choice.
Too many issues with the 2 Infinitys I had. I am more than happy with my note.
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Too many issues with the 2 Infinitys I had. I am more than happy with my note.
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Ditto, this thing rocks. The Note wins, no contest.
I would just return the Note. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and we'll be lucky if we even get official Jelly Bean. ICS took months to come (beginning of August). ASUS, however do update there devices in rapid speed (Some ASUS devices are getting Jelly Bean today).
Function > Form = No regrets. Note 10.1 all day long.
Just swapped my Infinity yesterday for the note. I couldn't put it down! everything is so smooth. like a quad core device should be. Plus the added functionality of thepen is exquisite. As far as the screen goes, I can say that the Note's screen is by no means ugly, perhaps just not as crisp in some places. but I'll take overall stability over that in a heartbeat.
I've never owned the Infinity and I never will after my horrible experience with Asus, ICS, and the original Transformer. I've been waiting all year practically for the Note 10.1 to arrive, and I couldn't be happier with it. The screen resolution is perfectly acceptable to me, as I bought this device for gaming, surfing and for use as a design tool (s-pen). IMHO, Samsung may not push many updates for their devices, but I'd rather have a device that works than one that is buggy, barely runs the apps it should run easily, and has poor build quality (case creaks, screen light bleed, etc) but receives updates every other month.
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I would just return the Note. I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and we'll be lucky if we even get official Jelly Bean. ICS took months to come (beginning of August). ASUS, however do update there devices in rapid speed (Some ASUS devices are getting Jelly Bean today).
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Seems like Asus has so many updates because they have so many problems with their products. Gmo.
Also I am a former prime and infinity owner.
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Seems like Asus has so many updates because they have so many problems with their products. Gmo.
Also I am a former prime and infinity owner.
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Well all those tablets getting jellybean. The tf-300 just got JB update this morning. I wonder how long it'll take Samsung to update the Note 10.1 to JB.
I'm hoping the rumors of Samsung horrible delayed updating to latest firmware isn't true..lol. we will see
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Well all those tablets getting jellybean. The tf-300 just got JB update this morning. I wonder how long it'll take Samsung to update the Note 10.1 to JB.
I'm hoping the rumors of Samsung horrible delayed updating to latest firmware isn't true..lol. we will see
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Well the thing we have going for us with the Note 10.1 is that this is Samsung's flagship product.
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They said jb will be out by this year. The transformer line is betting on jb to fix everything, while the note is already great and perfect on ics. What more can jb do for it? Besides make it faster than the already fastest android tablet alive, galaxy note 10.1!
I scanned through the TF300 forum after i saw they were getting JB (only cause I considered this one before I got my TF700), and the few posts I read stated it was under whelming update.
Those could have been picky users though, but I was getting ready to read through some more to see if any issues are fixed for them.
I am interested to see if JB helps the 700 at all though.
I have the galaxy note 10.1 and the TF201. hands down the Note is superior than the prime.
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I have the galaxy note 10.1 and the TF201. hands down the Note is superior than the prime.
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Same here.
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So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
Just go down to your local brick and mortar and play with one for an hour and decide for yourself. Or, if you're incapable of deciding for yourself then head down to the Apple retail store and the geniuses will happily tell you what to buy.
S Pen is very accurate (I haven't seen anyone complain about it being off a little) and very responsive.
It's as not fluid as an iPad, but should be fluid enough. I actually returned Asus Transformer Infinity before buying this one, and I can say that Note 10.1 is ten time more fluid than Transformer Infinity. It addition, with Jelly Bean (with Project Butter) update coming within this year it will be much better. I don't think you will feel like you need Jelly Bean though because it already works smoothly as is.
Coming from iPad 2, the screen will look amazing with higher resolution. However, if fluidity is your priority, iPad is probably the best choice. But I have a feeling that you will be happy with this device.
My wife was fed up with her iPad 2 (it was free, though, a business gift) . When I had my SGN10.1 she played around with it for 1hr , got in her car and went to buy her own SGN10.1 ....... :good:
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So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
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Gingerbread??? Tab 10.1 was Honeycomb... That said it had a Tegra2, Tegras are notorious for being first on the market to bump up core count but horrendously poor performance per core, and oddly, some of the worst GPU performance which is odd considering that NVidia is a GPU company.
If you're happy with the I9300, you should be happy with the N80xx - Same resolution and exact same CPU/GPU.
In addition, once Jellybean hits, UI performance should be significantly improved... Assuming Samsung doesn't dork it up. Might want to look at how the I9300 Jellybean leak is performing.
Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Just return my Asus TF700 and bought my second Note(first one went to U of Iowa with my daughter) and couldn't be happier.
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This is not a hard choice. The iPad is a very different device if your into pen. If the question is about the pen being solid, it's solid.
Feel secure that your getting good pen from this.
I came from the iPad. I've been trying to switch to Android for over a year. Of the half dozen Android tablets I've tried, the Note 10.1 is my switching device. Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping the iPad mostly because my daughter uses it for some games and secondly because there are some games I like that Android doesn't have (Kingdom Rush!).
So yeah, my retina iPad has been reduced to sloppy seconds.
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I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
I had the iPad1 the day it came out, and the iPad2 when it came out. The only reason I bought either tablet was that I wanted to use it for taking notes (without needing pen and paper) and reading PDF's (in a more natural way than on a laptop), and they only did one of those things. I sold my iPad2 a few months ago, and have just now picked up the Note 10.1. Me like!
The build quality is a little lower than I've been used to with the iPad, but feels acceptable in the hand.
The note-taking software is a little rough around the edges, as if Samsung doesn't realize they can tap into a HUGE education market with it.
In terms of taking notes in class, it's everything I ever hoped for -- the digitizer is very accurate, super rarely messes up.
Lack of high-res screen is disappointing, but it still looks a lot better than my iPad ever did!
The whole point of the Note 10.1 is taking notes and drawing. Hopefully Samsung will realize this at some point and polish up the rough edges and market it for education, ie. taking notes in class, but 'til then it's a fine tablet as is.
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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I know some people yell about specs that they only heard about without knowing what it adds, but it is not in my case, i usually browse a lot and i also hate seeing big pixels like for example on the iPad 2, this is what i liked about the New iPad the browsing experience was quitte good (with Chrome) and i could not see any pixels in normal use. That is why it will be the most important for me on a tablet.
I've had a lot of experience with Samsung and HTC in the past and it was the same as you HTC was a master, but if the Note 10.1 resembles the S3 that i own now than it will be the tab to beat. Samsung improved a lot since the Galaxy S in terms of software implementation and support at least this is what i experience now on my S3.
The only time you will notice the resolution difference with the Note is if you are trying to read really tiny text. Othewise this screen looks totally amazing.
That being said it all comes down to the s-pen. If you want a pen get the Note, if not get the ipad.
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Would u trade ur n7 for a galaxy tab 10.1. My friend wants to trade me strait up. I like the bigger tab but I love the n7 tho.
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Nope. Sammy can go take a hike with their 10.1.
You get a bigger screen, but that's the only major benefit. The Nexus 7 has a better CPU (Tegra 3 vs Tegra 2, quad core vs dual), and is probably going to have a better development scene (however, I have no idea on the current state of development on the GT 10.1).
Edit: Hmm, it also seems to get cellular and rear camera. If you want cellular, and have a want for a rear camera, I don't see it as that bad of a deal.
No, I've never liked 10" tablets, iPads or otherwise. The N7 is the perfect size for me.
Don't need the cellular since I can tether to my HOX, and taking pictures or video with a tablet makes you look like an idiot.
Yeah I like that it has a rear can but do t really need it I have an s3. But I really like the bigger screen and as fas as the development I already feel too caught up with my s3 that I just flashed paranoid android to my n7 and left it alone.
I guess I just wanna feel good about giving up a newer product for an older model
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If you can sell the Tab for more than the cost of the Nexus 7, then it might be worth it to make the trade, sell the Tab, and then buy a new Nexus 7.
True but If I trade id just keep it. But thanks guys for ur input
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The Tab 10.1 is a nice device. Its a generation behind in specs. I liked my 10" Transformer but it had a micro SD card and HDMI out. I found it tedious to lug around and eventually stopped using it because of such. Everytime I wanted to use it, it was dead.
I sold my transformer for $200. The N7 was $250+tax. Not sure what the Tab sells for but they are probably being flooded in the market since the 10" Note is out.
Sammy stopped updating the Tab a long time ago. I'm not sure if it even officially got ICS let alone jelly bean. The N7 has JB and will get KeyLime Pie when its released and probably LoliPop.
Tell him to sell it over in the Market and pick up a N7.
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I've always hated larger tablets... once you hit 10" tablets I find little reason to not just get a laptop and be done with it. While the N7 is smaller, it's very workable. We're remodeling some areas of our house, and I keep a few pictures and measurement notes down in my N7. When I'm at Lowes, it's nice to pull out the N7 and get a better idea of what I'm facing at home. Since the N7 fits in my back pocket, it's only another +1 to that court.
That's just my 2c though. I've talked to some people who love 10" tablets. I personally don't, and on that premise alone I wouldn't do the trade. That being said, you're also swapping out for slightly older hardware too. Nothing wrong with that if it's worth it, but I see no compelling reason that I personally would do that trade.
Heavy tab 10.1,I like my N7
NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats the first thing i want to say to you.
i am ex tab 10.1 owner.
the performance is TERRIBLE!!!!
i started using from stock honeycomb 3.1
its laggy beyond words, and i was forced to learn to root and flash custom roms that are 3.2
things got SLIGHTLY better but it was still laggy.
simple things like typing on keyboard, bringing up on screen keyboard, scrolling are still choppy.
then ICS came, and i flash various customs like AOKP and CM9
things got better again, overall UI is acceptable, no where near buttery smooth but still ok.
however only the UI smoothness improved in ICS, apps, games, any slightly 3D games will play in "slow motion" or "stop frame" style.
the tegra2 just dont cut it. its a dissapointment.
i sold my tab10,1 the moment i saw google IO announce nexus 7.
nexus 7 is superior in every way then that tab10.1 in terms of performance, responsiveness.
the only weakness is the small screen, but that gives it another benefit which is better portability.
the tab 10,1 browser crashes on a daily basis.
memory management is terrible even on ics.
try load FB desktop page on tab 10,1 stock browser, keep scrolling down,
as the FB page loads more newsfeeds, the scrolling becomes soo laggy, and it will start FC eventually.
NEVER trade your nexus 7 for tab10.1. you will surely regret it.
I actually did the opposite, sold my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and got the N7. Main reason was the weight and portability, I lasted 30 minutes with the 10.1 in the bath and my arms got tired. With the N7, I can watch movies anywhere, holding anyway I want and it feels great. Plus it's much more snappier (I did install a CM10 nightly on the 10.1 which was much better than its stock ICS but wasn't as great).
Nexus 7 is the best Android tablet out there in my opinion. Not just the best 7 inch, the best. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to tech. I've had an Acer Iconia 10" and 7", Transformer prime, Galaxy tab 2, and now this. Not quite every tablet on the market but a pretty decent cross section. I've also had a close look at a few other tabs.
The only thing that comes close is the transformer prime. That thing is ok but it's harder to hold, much heavier and the dock seems like a nice idea but ends up being a pita in practice.
This thing is a little pocket rocket, very powerful whilst being very easy to hold even for long periods and extremely portable.
By the way the galaxy tab is ****. Samsung don't even bother to support it so it was still on honeycomb when I last checked two weeks ago.
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Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com
Just return it. They aren't going to check anything
Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....
The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.
I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.
I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.
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Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.
If you had a choice would you buy the Asus TF300T again?
Personally, I maybe about to switch to the Galaxy Note 10.1 as my Asus TF300T has been sent in for RMA due to banding (something inherent in 4.2, and not an issue it turns out). Anyway, I think I may have the chance to say 'if you can't fix it, I don't want it to my retailer (UK)'.
The things I like about the tablet are:
Fast updates
Smooth (at least some of the time)
The dock
It's creak free (mostly)
The things I dislike:
Very very slow internal storage makes the tablet lag
Creaking from the left bezel
Constant force close messages (improved a bit in 4.2, but still occasionally happening due to I/O issues)
Slow web browsing (improved partially since 4.2)
Edit: Just received my tablet back and it's in a worse condition. I'm now exchanging it with my retailer for a Note 10.1.
i wouldn't cause of the screen quality... i would probably go for a nexus 10
At the price I got mine at...yeah I would.
At the price I got mine (close to 400 euros, last summer), I wouldn't buy it again now. It's a good tablet, has been serving me very well, but technology has moved on and expectations have increased.
If I HAD to buy a tablet now, I would go for something cheaper, a nexus 7 would be okay or something at that price. Very similar to the TF300 in capabilities and much cheaper.
(btw, I use my tablet mostly for educational purposes... to read books, browser the web, youtube etc)
I am waiting for the next generation of tablets where 400 euros will buy me much more than the TF300 currently offers.
Yes, I would buy it again if it was at the same price I originally bought the 32gb tablet for $299 and the blue dock for $49.
I'm very happy with the TF300T. It does everything I need it to. The great Devs we have in the section are an added bonus.
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For me personally, I wouldn't buy it again because mine got give me a bit of issues when the touchscreen didn't work properly only after two weeks of having it before i teared the whole thing apart and fixed it which is still a bit wonky but i can cope with it.
But the device itself works very well but like what other have said, the technology with this tablet is a bit outdated compared to other tablet but the form factor of the tablet being able to transform to a netbook is what made me buy it.
If anything I might go with the tf700 as my next tablet or a future generation of the transformer series
I upgraded to the tf300t from a tf100 and I'm really happy with it. I don't like Android on tablets in general, I use Ubuntu mostly as it brings out the full potential, and makes it more of a netbook.
Build quailty isn't great mine scratches really easy being a white model and compared to my tf101 doesn't feel as sturdy. I previously had a samsung windows 8 hybrid tablet that cost waay more than the tf300t and the built quailty was terrible and the Intel atom processor was nothing on the performance of the tegra 3 not to mention the gpu on the tegra is about 5 times faster. I beleive the tf300 is well worth the price.
Although id proberly buy the tf700 if I had another chance.
Hmmm... Is this question asking "if you were to walk into a store today, would you buy the TF300T?" or more like "If you could go back in time, would you still buy it?"
I bought mine right after it launched. My only other real choices were the TF201, the Acer A500 (I think that was the model number; might have been the A510 or something), a Samsung Tab 2, or wait several months for the TF700. If I were to go back to that point in time, I would probably still buy it as it was the best option available.
If I were shopping for a tablet today, I would pass up the TF300T and get a Nexus 10. That's a no-brainer to me. It costs the same as I paid for my TF300T with a way better screen and dev community (not that our dev community isn't great, but let's face it; the TF300T isn't a Nexus).
No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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I got a tab 2 I'd trade ya
i wouldn't, keyboard is more novelty then useful for me and the tab is a bit too big for the task i use it for, i would just get a nexus 7...or something in that market
maybe if i didn't have a newer laptop and the tf300t was my main laptop then i would be singing a different tune...
I certainly wouldn't. A couple of days after creating this thread my tablet came back in a worse condition. I'm now about to exchange it for a Note 10.1
I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery. It's more likely that my next tablet will be iPad Mini or something really worthy on Android.
But I can't say this tablet is bad. It's okay but there are still some issues I really don't want to face again.
never ever asus again now switch samsung tab
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If I was to buy one today, I voted no. Back when I bought it for the price I got it for, yes. It was the best option for $280 when I bought it during the boxing week sale as no other comparable tablet was within a hundred bucks in my area.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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Agreed :good:
I'm very happy with my TF300T with CM10.1. Traded it for an Ipad. It was the best trade IMO.
Maybe I never had a Samsung so I don't notice the lag. The creaking from the left bezel is the only thing that annoys me.
Maybe it's just me but ... running the Tablet with CROMI 4.2.1 (4.5) with Hunds Kernel at 1.6 ghz...
For 250 $ (refurb) ... It's running flawlessly and it's fast.
Very pleased with it.
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I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery.
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Could you describe in a little more detail why you are completely disappointed in these three areas?
Tegra 3: Not the fastest but it's a pretty decent processor. Certainly not of the slower ones out there. I think the TF300T is having some performance issues due to its sloooow internal storage (the I/O issue). Where does the Tegra 3 disappoint you?
TF300 screen: I had the chance to check out a Samsung Note 10.1. The screen looked 'better' in the sense of more color saturation and less distance between the display and the surface (not that the TF300 is bad at this). But it wasn't a huge difference. What I wish was better on the TF300, is the glass. It's not very scratch resistant. Why are you completely disappointed in the TF300 screen?
battery: I think the TF300 has a pretty standard/expected battery life. Not outstanding but not too short either. I personally charge once per day or every couple of days. Are there tablets out there with substantially better battery life? The reviews I've seen do not point to such conclusion. (Perhaps you would get an extra hour or two at best?)
Recently, I sent my TF300T in for an RMA (after to owning it for 4 months) for it to come back in a worse condition with the plastic case popping out, glass not bonded properly, scratches and a badly scuffed charger/adaptor. I live in the UK and it was the retailer's responsibility to fix the tablet, so when it came back with problems I was offered a replacement or a different tablet of my choice. I chose the Note 10.1. I've had the tablet for around 3 days.
Display
The Note 10.1s display is better than the TF300s. On the Asus Transformer Pad the whites appeared yellow and I had light bleed along the right side of the screen. My Note only has a small amount of bleed along the right side which is only really noticeable in a dark room. Banding was also an issue on the TF300 due to the use of a cheap screen. This doesn't seem to be apparent on the Note 10.1...
Performance
The TF300T suffers constant lags due to the use of cheap NAND flash memory, this caused the browser to repeatedly suffer 'Force close' messages, this doesn't seem to happen on the Note :good:. Running Androbench my Note 10.1 also beats the TF300T.
The processor bests the Tegra 3 found in the TF300T. The extra 1GB of RAM also helps :highfive:
Build Quality
The reviews I read criticised the Note for poor build quality and that it feels 'cheap'. Personally, I think it feels more high end than the TF300T as there appears to be no creaking, unlike my TF300 (which the back felt soft and the left side of the bezel creaked).
Other points
The S-Pen is also intuitive and is a useful addition. Android 4.1 on the Note 10.1 also mostly feels smooth.
Looks like I'm a happy owner :laugh:
Glad to hear you like your new Note 10.1.
I love mine. I use it for work, play, reading, etc. I barely touch my laptop anymore.
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i'm also comes from tf300t too. Tf300t only good with hdmi port, keyboard dock and software update really fast. The rest ( performance, battery, screen...) are really sucks though.
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my previous android tab was a very low end micromax funbook i think it is called allwinner(not even worth comparing it to this) internationally and when i saw this tab when my nice came here for her holidays it blew me away and i just wanted it got it and im loving it The Spen is nice im just getting the feel of it and getting to understand on the same
i just love this Tab it great way beyond my budget but thanks to samsung having an offer on CC were u dont need to pay any precessing or interest on buying it i got it :laugh::good::good::laugh:
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...I barely touch my laptop anymore.
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Me too.
To OP, I agree totally. I recently had the chance to play with my moms TF300, and must say, my GN10.1 is a much nicer experience. Hers kept hanging up and force closing things. She had wanted me to root it so I could remove bloat and try to help it run faster, but I was unable to since reading up and seeing the complex process needed to do so. I was 800 miles away from my fast wifi and laptop and she only had dial up available to me. I was unable to help it and I think it is worse now with 4.1.2 on it from what she says.
i'm also coming from a TF300T and noticed a big difference with the Note.
The whole user experience (even if you don't use the S-pen) is much better, much more stable, smooth and faster overall.
I don't use the s-pen tho, it looks interesting but i mostly use the note on some surface (table, lap, etc) and it's not pratical to use it that way with the pen, i don't miss the s-pen either so may next tablet will probably not be a note, but right now the note is still worth it anyway for the general performance and smoothness, i think it's still the most smooth 10" tablet available.
For me the only drawback is the resolution, although perfectly sufficient it would be nice to have a higher resolution.
Former TF300T user here, too. Tablets perform like night & day. I was fed up with all the stutters on the TF300T. Yes, I DO miss the hdmi out, but the performance & benefits of the Note ae much greater. Plus, I have the Note 2, so I can sync s-notes between them both.
I came from the original Transformer, actually, but I think it's tough to compare the 300T, a budget model, with the Note, the flagship tablet of Samsung..
In any case, I loved the color and look of my Transformer, but I also love the color and look of my Note. I just wish the Note had a keyboard dock as well. That would make my Note completely irreplaceable.
I came from the TF700 and don't miss the overheating slow as molasses tablet at all. ASUS can go to hell.