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I would like to have my phone rooted but i like stock and i like having the security updates. is there a way to have my cake and eat it too?
Short answer is No.
This is my first android phone which I didn't root it and see no reason to do so.
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First and main reason for my to root, Titanium Backup.
then i guess if i was going to distill this down to what im really trying to get at is, i passionatly hate ads, they completely ruin my mobile experience and i just wanted to filter them out. is there a non-rooted way to do this?
also i like changing the hostname of my device so i can identify it on networks easily...
I rooted just so I can use Adaway. It's worth it to me.
Ovrclck said:
I rooted just so I can use Adaway. It's worth it to me.
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I had adaway installed but found it interfered with sending MMS messages.
akarol said:
First and main reason for my to root, Titanium Backup.
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I was thinking this too but apparently titanium backup can create flashable zips so in theory you can do that, flash the zip to restore apps and never need root access in the actual app.
Can you unlock bootloader, boot twrp (not flash, just fastboot boot twrp.img), create the hosts symlink with adb shell, reboot, then change the hosts source in adaway settings?
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I had adaway installed but found it interfered with sending MMS messages.
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Are you sure about that? I am rooted with adaway and have no problems with mms. I don't see how adaway could possibly affect your ability to sent SMS or mms.
As far as the security updates are concerned, download the image and manually flash system, vendor, and bootloader for each update. I am on the November update as a result
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dudekiller said:
I would like to have my phone rooted but i like stock and i like having the security updates. is there a way to have my cake and eat it too?
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I remember reading that chainfire was working on a beta root method that does not modify the system partition. In this case, you may be able to unlock bootloader --> flash twrp --> flash root --> flash stock recovery and be able to accept security updates? Just a thought. My plan is to flash stock recovery once security patches are released, then reroot if necessary.
Honestly, I really didnt want to root this phone but two things changed my mind: CF Lumen and the potential to set up one handed mode using xposed modules.
mlin said:
I remember reading that chainfire was working on a beta root method that does not modify the system partition. In this case, you may be able to unlock bootloader --> flash twrp --> flash root --> flash stock recovery and be able to accept security updates? Just a thought. My plan is to flash stock recovery once security patches are released, then reroot if necessary.
Honestly, I really didnt want to root this phone but two things changed my mind: CF Lumen and the potential to set up one handed mode using xposed modules.
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Just flashed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-6-0-marshmellow-t3219344 which is the systemless root, works with Android Pay so I dont see why it wouldn't work with a system update as long as you have the stock recovery.
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I was thinking this too but apparently titanium backup can create flashable zips so in theory you can do that, flash the zip to restore apps and never need root access in the actual app.
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But how would you flash the zip? Doesn't you need a custom recovery. If so, why not just root?
Regardless, I like having my device weekly backed up as well. Can never be too careful.
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mlin said:
I remember reading that chainfire was working on a beta root method that does not modify the system partition. In this case, you may be able to unlock bootloader --> flash twrp --> flash root --> flash stock recovery and be able to accept security updates? Just a thought. My plan is to flash stock recovery once security patches are released, then reroot if necessary.
Honestly, I really didnt want to root this phone but two things changed my mind: CF Lumen and the potential to set up one handed mode using xposed modules.
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Which module for one-handed mode please?
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racing_md said:
Are you sure about that? I am rooted with adaway and have no problems with mms. I don't see how adaway could possibly affect your ability to sent SMS or mms.
As far as the security updates are concerned, download the image and manually flash system, vendor, and bootloader for each update. I am on the November update as a result
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Yes it was definitely Ad-Away. Tried using different messaging apps. Once I removed Ad-Away it MMS worked again. Something about it was blocking the MMS portion, regular SMS was fine.
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Yes it was definitely Ad-Away. Tried using different messaging apps. Once I removed Ad-Away it MMS worked again. Something about it was blocking the MMS portion, regular SMS was fine.
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Interesting. What carrier do you use? The only thing I can think of is that somehow your mms data is coming from a domain that is being blocked by adaway (which would be very strange...) If that is the case then you could whitelist the domain in adaway once you determined what domain it is.
OP: One thing to keep in mind with systemless root, it does not work with all programs because some programs have hardcoded paths to SU. This is why I have stuck to traditional root for the highest compatability. The tradeoff being that I have to manually flash the security updates. Not a huge deal as it takes five minutes out of my life and data is preserved.
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Yes it was definitely Ad-Away. Tried using different messaging apps. Once I removed Ad-Away it MMS worked again. Something about it was blocking the MMS portion, regular SMS was fine.
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Weird, I don't have any issues. Maybe because I'm on Project Fi? Glad to hear you got in working though.:good:
akarol said:
But how would you flash the zip? Doesn't you need a custom recovery. If so, why not just root?
Regardless, I like having my device weekly backed up as well. Can never be too careful.
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Which module for one-handed mode please?
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I use this module https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hamzah.onehandmode coupled with gravity box to toggle via long pressing the recenta button on the navbar
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I'm still on the traditional root method also. At least it doesn't sound too hard to update. One thing about traditional root is I believe Android pay won't work if you use that.
Rick
racing_md said:
Interesting. What carrier do you use? The only thing I can think of is that somehow your mms data is coming from a domain that is being blocked by adaway (which would be very strange...) If that is the case then you could whitelist the domain in adaway once you determined what domain it is.
OP: One thing to keep in mind with systemless root, it does not work with all programs because some programs have hardcoded paths to SU. This is why I have stuck to traditional root for the highest compatability. The tradeoff being that I have to manually flash the security updates. Not a huge deal as it takes five minutes out of my life and data is preserved.
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I am on AT&T.
dudekiller said:
then i guess if i was going to distill this down to what im really trying to get at is, i passionatly hate ads, they completely ruin my mobile experience and i just wanted to filter them out. is there a non-rooted way to do this?
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You can use Adguard without root. I use it since 3 month and for me it's way better than Adaway.
-X5- said:
You can use Adguard without root. I use it since 3 month and for me it's way better than Adaway.
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awesome suggestion... i will use this... though it is a bit concerning running all of my traffic through an unknown vpn... a lot of trust going on there...
Discuss working apps and programs that require root for any of the US Variant S7 and S7 edge phones here!
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Does anyone know if layers can work on the stock firmware on the s7 edge like it did for the lgg4? Also I got exposed working, and fixed the boot loop after flashing engboot. No lag either!
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This is awesome! You guys from the bounty thread did a great job! With a little custom su love from chainfire!
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Never thought I'd see the day. They said it couldn't be done. I'm nervous about doing mine so im stil stock G930P on APB5. Its almost too good to be true!!!
Im assuming titanium back up works?
Also, I have the apn mod for the hotspot to work.(working great btw)....will that apn trick still work or would I have to install a for root app for hotspot?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
DetoxVenom said:
Does anyone know if layers can work on the stock firmware on the s7 edge like it did for the lgg4? Also I got exposed working, and fixed the boot loop after flashing engboot. No lag either!
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Layers has never worked well with TW, and doesn't work at all on the S7.
DetoxVenom said:
Does anyone know if layers can work on the stock firmware on the s7 edge like it did for the lgg4? Also I got exposed working, and fixed the boot loop after flashing engboot. No lag either!
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So what did you do to disable boot loops?
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Could someone who is able to use package disabler competently and is basically and android noob be able to do this?
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T-Mobile s7 flat confirmed. Apb6
Root checker: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ub8ccnppjx0zeit/Screenshot_20160704-112322.png?dl=0
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T-Mobile s7 flat confirmed. Apb6
Root checker: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ub8ccnppjx...12322.png?dl=0
About: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9cow0gmk0...12347.png?dl=0
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Links dead
stew1411 said:
So what did you do to disable boot loops?
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You can disabled the boot loop and heating up by factory resetting your phone after flashing the engboot, once this is done do the entire initial setup but when prompt with hands free activation hold the back button. Go to the play store and download package Disabler Samsung. Now go to settings and activate device, when finished do not hit "done" instead hit the home button. Go to package Disabler and search DM services, disable it and wala! Enjoy!
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Could someone who is able to use package disabler competently and is basically and android noob be able to do this?
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Yes it's real easy and if you need help just ask here, that's why I made the thread. ?
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So I have the 930T ,I flashed the Engboot then phone restarted. After the start up process I went to push supersu via adb, it went through the the whole process and success. The phone rebooted automatically and after it booted I could see the supersu app. Root checker says root not installed correctly and also titanium back up won't detect root. I have downloaded and pushed the files a total of 6 times. I have also wiped cache before the last push, still no root. Any ideas?
Did you try to reflash su
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Yes 7 times now.this last time I reflashed the Engboot and did the whole process. Same result.
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Yes 7 times now.this last time I reflashed the Engboot and did the whole process. Same result.
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It's definitely tricky but this works. I've done it to mine 3 times to get everything right. I'm on pd8 by the way.
Here is how I got everything working smooth.
Make sure you have the modified Odin from the original AT&T thread.
Take out the Sim and memory card if you have one. These have caused issues in the past.
Factory reset in recovery. Then boot into download mode. Flash via Odin the 930t pd8 firmware or whatever version you have (from sammobile, 2hr download with a free account) make sure. To use the "Home" csc file. Again we are flashing all the fields.
Now your stock.
Boot up and setup your phone. Still no Sim or memory card. Install kernel auditor, titanium back up and busy box.
Turn on adb mode via developer mode.
ADB reboot download mode.
Flash everything again but this time using " Samsung_G930x_QC_Rooted_boot.zip" in the AP field in Odin.
It will reboot, then once abd is able to see your device. Run the root.bat.
It will reboot after a time.
Once it's back. Install busybox to system/bin, it won't install to xbin.
Use kernel auditor to change cpu governor to "ondemand".
Use titanium back up to freeze "security log agent"
You should be golden.
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DetoxVenom said:
Does anyone know if layers can work on the stock firmware on the s7 edge like it did for the lgg4? Also I got exposed working, and fixed the boot loop after flashing engboot. No lag either!
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How did you install xposed? I saw some poeople say they used Flashfire. I've never used it myself.
Could you write up a quick how to for installing xposed?
Testing.
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billydroid said:
It's definitely tricky but this works. I've done it to mine 3 times to get everything right. I'm on pd8 by the way.
Here is how I got everything working smooth.
Make sure you have the modified Odin from the original AT&T thread.
Take out the Sim and memory card if you have one. These have caused issues in the past.
Factory reset in recovery. Then boot into download mode. Flash via Odin the 930t pd8 firmware or whatever version you have (from sammobile, 2hr download with a free account) make sure. To use the "Home" csc file. Again we are flashing all the fields.
Now your stock.
Boot up and setup your phone. Still no Sim or memory card. Install kernel auditor, titanium back up and busy box.
Turn on adb mode via developer mode.
ADB reboot download mode.
Flash everything again but this time using " Samsung_G930x_QC_Rooted_boot.zip" in the AP field in Odin.
It will reboot, then once abd is able to see your device. Run the root.bat.
It will reboot after a time.
Once it's back. Install busybox to system/bin, it won't install to xbin.
Use kernel auditor to change cpu governor to "ondemand".
Use titanium back up to freeze "security log agent"
You should be golden.
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How did you install xposed? I saw some poeople say they used Flashfire. I've never used it myself.
Could you write up a quick how to for installing xposed?
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It's fairly easy, just download flashfire to your device and go to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960 and click the download OK your phones browser. The website is for the international variant using exonos but it works the same.
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Just flash the file with flashfire if you need more help let me know.
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How is the lag? Did you notice any performance loss? I followed the steps in the original thread and had to factory reset after being stuck on the Tmo screen (Huge over site on Tmo to add a white splash screen on an AMOLED screen...). After I flashed SU, superSU would lag like crazy. It would take 2 mins for root requests to popup. I never felt so happy to odin back to stock after that. I didnt think of flashing all odin files and just replacing the AP slot. Maybe that will make a difference?
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How is the lag? Did you notice any performance loss? I followed the steps in the original thread and had to factory reset after being stuck on the Tmo screen (Huge over site on Tmo to add a white splash screen on an AMOLED screen...). After I flashed SU, superSU would lag like crazy. It would take 2 mins for root requests to popup. I never felt so happy to odin back to stock after that. I didnt think of flashing all odin files and just replacing the AP slot. Maybe that will make a difference?
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I had the same problem all is good now just let your phone rest so it can learn battery usage and download no frills cpu or any goody kernel tweaker and change govn. To interactive this will help lag. You just have to let phone sit it will fix itself.
Just wondering if anyone has got the Barclays banking app to work on any custom Rom. I have tried nearly all of them and even the ones that are not rooted don't work.
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Just wondering if anyone has got the Barclays banking app to work on any custom Rom. I have tried nearly all of them and even the ones that are not rooted don't work.
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I know that barclays used to crash if it detected root at all. I'm rooted using Magisk and if I add barclays to Magisk Hide, it opens for me. Don't have an account with them to test login but it's better than nothing. Also make sure you pass safetynet before you open it and clear app data before launching for first time
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I know that barclays used to crash if it detected root at all. I'm rooted using Magisk and if I add barclays to Magisk Hide, it opens for me. Don't have an account with them to test login but it's better than nothing. Also make sure you pass safetynet before you open it and clear app data before launching for first time
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Worked for me to on my OPO
So when you say it worked for you do you mean you can get past the start screen, because I get the start screen but no further.
pandollar said:
So when you say it worked for you do you mean you can get past the start screen, because I get the start screen but no further.
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I've had it wiring with Magisk, works to this day. Snapchat is more of a pain.
Ok, could you tell me exactly what you did to get it working, what version of Barlcays app are you using and what Rom
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dladz said:
I've had it wiring with Magisk, works to this day. Snapchat is more of a pain.
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Hi.
I am also interested in the steps to get this app working on my phone as I have been unable to get past the start screen for a couple of months however it would be really helpful to have access to this app and it's features .
Ashley_Simms said:
Hi.
I am also interested in the steps to get this app working on my phone as I have been unable to get past the start screen for a couple of months however it would be really helpful to have access to this app and it's features .
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Don't use it no more but what I've done is had systemless root (magisk) then install the app that you want t hide, prior to opening it, click magisk, go to settings and show magisk hide, then check the box next to the application you want to hide.
Then start your app for the first time.
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Don't use it no more but what I've done is had systemless root (magisk) then install the app that you want t hide, prior to opening it, click magisk, go to settings and show magisk hide, then check the box next to the application you want to hide.
Then start your app for the first time.
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Ok, I have tried this before and still doesn't open.
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Ok, I have tried this before and still doesn't open.
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Not sure then mate. Must have been patched
What about temp unrooting? Yours be surprised how little you need root? Cant think of any other way.
At the moment I just use the mobile website.
Or there may be an older version of the app not susceptible to root checking or the methods the newer version of the app uses, I know my old bank Lloyd's did this. Old version worked perfectly.
Have you got xposed on your phone?
I have my phone rooted with magisk. Phone is USA unlocked model and I haven't been able to get the app to work does anyone have any suggestions?
CMDolojan said:
I have my phone rooted with magisk. Phone is USA unlocked model and I haven't been able to get the app to work does anyone have any suggestions?
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Did you try magisk hide as suggested at the magisk site?
CMDolojan said:
I have my phone rooted with magisk. Phone is USA unlocked model and I haven't been able to get the app to work does anyone have any suggestions?
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Also, you need go I to magisk settings and hide magisk itself by having it renamed
henk-jan said:
Did you try magisk hide as suggested at the magisk site?
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Also, you need go I to magisk settings and hide magisk itself by having it renamed
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I tried a lot of the things in the thread. I tried hiding magisk I tried the storage app with the
Riru enhanced module but I keep getting unable to authenticate message.
CMDolojan said:
I tried a lot of the things in the thread. I tried hiding magisk I tried the storage app with the
Riru enhanced module but I keep getting unable to authenticate message.
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Despite there announcements
(What is Magisk Hide?
By using Magisk Hide, you can actually hide the root from gaming apps like Pokemon Go and also any financial apps including banking apps. In order to make sure that you take complete advantage of the Magisk Hide feature, it’s vital to activate it. Here’s the process)
I get the same problem with an other app that doesn't work with magisk hide
Hello everyone,
I have 2 apps that keeps detecting root no matter what I do..
I tried HIDE MAGISK, MAGISK HIDE props and even I renamed the MAGISK package via MAGISK setting to random name..
The problem is that when I don't hide with MAGISK it will show msg root detected. But if I hide with MAGISK HIDE the app simply doesn't work at all it just hang at loading and crash sometimes.
I tried the app by uninstalling the MAGISK and the app works fine... but as soon as I install/flash MAGISK again app hanging and crashing.
Can anyone have idea how can I fix..
App link on play store-
Kuwait mobile ID:
Kuwait Mobile ID هويتي - Apps on Google Play
Kuwait digital ID for citizens and residents
play.google.com
Immune:
Immune مناعة - Apps on Google Play
Immune , application for Ministry of Health in Kuwait
play.google.com
Android 10.0.1
OnePlus 5 stock rom
App details- the above 2 apps are used for digital ID and Vaccination record in Kuwait country and it's important.
magisk hide not working anymore.. for ethernity...the dev remove by google order. this is very sad.
angus6969 said:
magisk hide not working anymore.. for ethernity...the dev remove by google order. this is very sad.
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Yeah..is there any other solution
for now nothing that I know, maybe a RIRU module, but I can't tell you more
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for now nothing that I know, maybe a RIRU module, but I can't tell you more
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Ok thanks..I already tried riru with xprivacy Lua...it didn't work
I imagined this, maybe you have to wait a little longer for other solutions / modules
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I imagined this, maybe you have to wait a little longer for other solutions / modules
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Yeah so as of now my only solution is to uninstall MAGISK..when I need those apps...when I don't reflash MAGISK..
DastanShaikh said:
Yeah so as of now my only solution is to uninstall MAGISK..when I need those apps...when I don't reflash MAGISK..
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But there is only one caveat that after.. uninstalling MAGISK..twrp recovery goes back to stock recovery..
A little hassle
DastanShaikh said:
But there is only one caveat that after.. uninstalling MAGISK..twrp recovery goes back to stock recovery..
A little hassle
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no, don't worry, it doesn't happen. Only if you install the stock rom you have stock recovery
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But there is only one caveat that after.. uninstalling MAGISK..twrp recovery goes back to stock recovery..
A little hassle
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i got the same issue with kuwait mobile id and Immune app and i have tried everything but what i found out that you can use them if you cloned your system in the same phone and dont put root in the cloned system that all ^^ good luck