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Z5 camera VS Iphone6 plus, SGS6, LG G4, Z3

Here they did a test with most new phones including the Z5! Shame i cant link the photo's directly so you have to go to the link it self http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Xperia-Z5-vs-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-S6-vs-Z3-vs-G4-camera-samples-comparison_id73408
The Z5 takes pretty awesome shots and its way better then the z3 camera. The colors look so much more correct and in some phones it beats the sgs6.
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http://support.sonymobile.com/us/contactUs/phone/?region=en_US and ask if they can add RAW support

I like iphone 6 plus more.

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I like iphone 6 plus more.
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the red on the iphone looks washed out or better said, the amount of light on the car is captured more on it. the z5 captures the real color from my perspective

In my opinion Z5 is better than Iphone 6+ and GS6, colors of the 2 is slightly saturated.

Regardless of color accuracy, the resolution increase still does not helps getting sharper images. There is too much noise reduction applied, especially compared to iPhone 6. Apple here does a decent job although I'd rather have much more noise and no NR applied in camera. Worst offender is LG, which applies an insane post-NR sharpening.
I think we should wait for production samples and hopefully some 3rd party app that can leverage better on this new sensor. Otherwise there is no real advantage against Samsung or Apple.
As for color accuracy, it really comes down to the app and how much processing is done. On my screen (which is calibrated, but it's not best quality panel) and to my eye Z5 has decent overall color rendition, but I prefer the G4 in the first picture (less punch but the overall colors are more accurate) and the iPhone in the third.
In the end, we are not yet at compact camera level - maybe next iteration (z6 or z7 or whatever they will call it). I'd really love to have an RX100 performance squeezed into a phone

Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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RiTCHiE007 said:
Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Am I the only one seeing that low light photos look good on Note 5. Specially the example you gave, Note 5 has more details compared to Z5. Yea we all know that Samsung dose produce more warmer pics which makes the photo looks yellowish, but if you take a closer look the noise reduction is so aggressive in Z5.
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P.S: Ah no wonder you seem to mix up the two photos. Note 5 indeed do look better here.

Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail

http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.

CandyAndy said:
Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
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Think its time you get some glasses bro. The first one and clearly the best low light photo is made with the Z5 not the note. Even if you zoom in on the billboard etc you see that the note blurs and has to much overexposed. But both are good camera's tho/.

chesterr said:
http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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WOW those pictures look indeed pretty awesome!!! But they are taken by a pro tho with a tripod.

I am a Sony Fan But i Must admit the samsung note 5 is killing sony camera what a poor detail in z5 i hope there is improvement in the last release

Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.

Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Specially when it comes to Camera software they don't seem to be doing great.

I am always surprised that despite making good cameras and selling camera parts to other phone manufacturers, Sony phones have the worse cameras in the mobile phone industry. The Z3 camera is terrible relative to Apples and Samsungs and their previous phones were even worse. Hopefully they finally fix it with the Z5.

Wow....

chesterr said:
Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
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What latest camera ui?

I love LG G4 most

King p1n said:
What latest camera ui?
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LG G6 users, is the camera a lot better than the Note 4?

Hi folks, heading out today to get an LG G6 to replace a Note 4. I've really enjoyed the note 4's camera, still takes excellent shots.
Is the LG G6 camera setup a whole lot better? A lot better? A bit better? l'm sure someone out there knows
Thanks for any comment... Cheers!:highfive:
StevenRN

I had the Note 4, which yes had a great camera, that being said, for me, the G6 is appreciably better IQ wise, especially in lower light, F1.8 really helps. See the attached photo at 1200 iso which I think is really impressive and way beyond what the Note 4 would have achieved IQ wise at 1200 iso. And another more normal photo with great detail. That's my 5 cents, hope it helps.
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I had the Note 4, which yes had a great camera, that being said, for me, the G6 is appreciably better IQ wise, especially in lower light, F1.8 really helps. See the attached photo at 1200 iso which I think is really impressive and way beyond what the Note 4 would have achieved IQ wise at 1200 iso. And another more normal photo with great detail. That's my 5 cents, hope it helps. View attachment 4140790View attachment 4140793
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Very nice! I'm a sucker for flower and pet pictures- Love shooting 'em around the house :highfive:
These were from my old note 4, but will have the LG G6 tomorrow.
Caught me a bee at work in the first one. The closeup shot you got was really sharp and good looking.

I love it for the most part. The wide angle sucks if you're taking landscape shots. Stupidly panorama can't be done with the camera IMO the correct orientation. It has to be held up and down. Can't hold phone side ways. That's my only gripe honestly.

With a clip on macro lens

the wide angle is actually fine, one must remember its getting almost double the scene with the same 13 mp hence the photos looking softer (less detail), take your P&S camera and take a photo at 45/50mm and then zoom out to 24mm while standing at the same place and take another photo then look at each at 100% you'll see exactly the same thing, same amount of megapixels covering a lot more info...

Hi
I got a new LG G 6 4 days back.
The picture quality is pathetic. Its blurry and pixelated 99.99% pictures clicked in all conditions are going wrong, day light, artificial, auto manual, dual cam, single cam.
any idea what is wrong.
I have read many reviews and videos and am sure that pic quality is bound to be better but unable to figure out.
Currntly using PIXEL XL and iphone 6s.

pratikpareek said:
Hi
I got a new LG G 6 4 days back.
The picture quality is pathetic. Its blurry and pixelated 99.99% pictures clicked in all conditions are going wrong, day light, artificial, auto manual, dual cam, single cam.
any idea what is wrong.
I have read many reviews and videos and am sure that pic quality is bound to be better but unable to figure out.
Currntly using PIXEL XL and iphone 6s.
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There is something wrong with your G6 if that is the case.
My G6

pratikpareek said:
Hi
I got a new LG G 6 4 days back.
The picture quality is pathetic. Its blurry and pixelated 99.99% pictures clicked in all conditions are going wrong, day light, artificial, auto manual, dual cam, single cam.
any idea what is wrong.
I have read many reviews and videos and am sure that pic quality is bound to be better but unable to figure out.
Currntly using PIXEL XL and iphone 6s.
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I got rid of my iPhone 7 cos of the crappy IQ, much happier with G6.
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There is something wrong with your G6 if that is the case.
My G6
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Some spectacular photos dude! [emoji3]
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Couple more G6 shots
The GPO Dublin - love the wide angle sensor.
A Seagull in Dublin on the O'Connell Street Bridge
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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei Mate 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Here are my first batch of photos taken with the Mate 10 Pro.
https://jmcomms.com/2017/10/17/huawei-mate-10-pro-camera-images-part-1/

Superb work

dayum, it really looks like a step up from the Mate 9. Just read the in-depth DxOMark review, any chance we can see some extreme low light shots that would require flash?

Did some comparisons:
Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs. Mate 9 - https://touchit.sk/fototest-huawei-mate-10-pro-medzigeneracne-porovnanie-s-huawei-mate-9/139031
Mate 10 Pro vs. Galaxy Note8 vs. iPhone 8 Plus - https://touchit.sk/fototest-dualnyc...-samsung-galaxy-note8-vo-dne-aj-v-noci/138438
Sorry it is in Slovak language, but I hope you can get the point from pictures themselves

This is great. Which do you think was better

Here is another gallery with shots from BMW Welt and BMW Museum - https://photos.app.goo.gl/CClLDNmkeyXnf2a93

A Look at Huawei Mate 10's AI-Assisted Low Light Photography
https://fstoppers.com/originals/look-huawei-mate-10s-ai-assisted-low-light-photography-201821

Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs Google Pixel 2 XL https://wylsa.com/google-pixel-2-xl-vs-mate-10/

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Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs Google Pixel 2 XL https://wylsa.com/google-pixel-2-xl-vs-mate-10/
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Mate 10 wins on all pics!? Have I got them the wrong way round? Mate 10 on left?

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Mate 10 wins on all pics!? Have I got them the wrong way round? Mate 10 on left?
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Yes, you're right - Mate 10 Pro on the left side.
For me Mate 10 Pro is better on three photos, except the photo with "Danger"

Grigorijs said:
Yes, you're right - Mate 10 Pro on the left side.
For me Mate 10 Pro is better on three photos, except the photo with "Danger"
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Yeah I agree with that, You can see the texture of the sign board more on the pixel. Decision made, Gotta get the Mate 10 P, I just hope they keep up with the updates :fingers-crossed:

Well got it delivered today (10 Pro) so tested out the camera
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I was a little surprised to find the RGB camera isn't 12mb like advertised too, it's 11.8

Comparison between P10+ & Mate10 at ISO1000. Mate10 noise reduction is too strong until lost of colors & some details has been smoothen. P10+ handle it much better & more natural. Hope Huawei will improve in this area.

I am also dissapointed by mate 10 photo quality. In daylight its worse than my old galaxy s4!
Noise reduction is too strong, sharpening is just way too strong and contrast is too strong. Pictures look completely artificial.
JPG are almost useless on 4K good screen.
On the other side - raw files are great.

My Mate 10 arrived yesterday, sampled out the camera this morning. I'm so impressed with the entire Phone so far, but the camera is really something.
The forum has reduced the quality of these quite a bit.

Is possible some of our camera are defective? I haven't been impressed at all with it. Especially in low light the pictures look a bit rubbish. The u11 and original pixel xl looked a lot better

Reuben_skelz92 said:
Is possible some of our camera are defective? I haven't been impressed at all with it. Especially in low light the pictures look a bit rubbish. The u11 and original pixel xl looked a lot better
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I agree. I've been comparing the Note 8 and M10 Pro... and when i send them to people to tell me what they think, most of them come back to me by telling me the N8 is much better. I am using the Zero camera mod on the N8, and it seems that it really makes the pictures better. Honestly i was expecting much better.
Did you try the M10 on "moving subjects"? like babies, dogs, cars... for me it just has a hard time focusing. Of course, this on auto mode... on pro, and when you take still pictures it looks really nice. I also realised that the color isn't very warm, tends to go on the blue cold then warm.

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I agree. I've been comparing the Note 8 and M10 Pro... and when i send them to people to tell me what they think, most of them come back to me by telling me the N8 is much better. I am using the Zero camera mod on the N8, and it seems that it really makes the pictures better. Honestly i was expecting much better.
Did you try the M10 on "moving subjects"? like babies, dogs, cars... for me it just has a hard time focusing. Of course, this on auto mode... on pro, and when you take still pictures it looks really nice. I also realised that the color isn't very warm, tends to go on the blue cold then warm.
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I haven't really taken loads of pics outside mainly low light... But what I have taken is a bit washed out and haven't been impressed.
I think the hardware is as good as the other flagships and I heard you can get better pictures in pro mode. The software side obviously isn't doing a very good job and needs updating

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 6's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

very bad....sorry to say it!

It is much better though than many 12mpxl cameras of the past without any low-light tricks. But it still sucks.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13038/the-oneplus-6-review/8
V30 with MUCH smaller sensor and pixels obliterates OP6 with its pixel binning. Op5T had pixel binning, but it had it on a sensor without OIS. Hence nobody liked op5t low light blurry mess shots. I have no idea why OP6 devs cant just port pixel binning software to the main camera with OIS and see how it obliterates competetion.
I wish we had somebody who can make this happen. Just make a port of op5T second camera binning software to op6 main camera and have a best allround flagship killing camera. Is it that hard?

I would say its quite good. I compared this with my friend that owns Samsung S8. My photo came out a lot of sharper with so much light in contrast of his photo that came out a little blurry and with less light on photo.
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Colour temperature is not accurate....too much yellow....

Mord0rr said:
Colour temperature is not accurate....too much yellow....
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But if the lights were yellow then? :s
Only him know how the scene looked as the picture was taken.

Im saying it on basis of my OP6 too... but of course, im not sure.

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Im saying it on basis of my OP6 too... but of course, im not sure.
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So you're not sure how the scenery looked or which color the street light has and you still say that it's too much yellow... "okay".

Uauuu....we have here a "Spock" logical person...
And how about this photo?
Too much what in your wise opinion?

Coming from Nexus 6p, feels like Oneplus 6 is a downgrade when it came to low-light camera performance.. Some samples below..
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Coming from Nexus 6p, feels like Oneplus 6 is a downgrade when it came to low-light camera performance.. Some samples below..
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Yeah, it's not forgiving when you use point and shoot mode!
I found turning off hdr makes better pictures. However, lots of reports says 5.1.7 has better low light performance. So one can only hope an update makes it better. Or we just have to hope that when the pixel 3 comes, we can use resources from Google cam for 845 snapdragon.

We hope.....
When zooming the photos...the horror starts....what disappointing!

Mord0rr said:
We hope.....
When zooming the photos...the horror starts....what disappointing!
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But if I zoom in on the p20 pro pictures I feel the same... In fact all cell cameras if you zoom just look horrible not made for zooming in tbh. Looks better if looked at a bigger screen.

I own other phone less expensive with Gcam, and zooming the detail is more present...
My daughter face is full of grain and lacks detail...

I've never owned a "premium" phone before and I must say that I'm actually quite impressed with the low-light photo quality - I was having a tour through a cavern, took a few photos and they've actually shown more detail than I could even see! Of course, when I looked at them on a big screen, the photos were noisy and oversharpened, but they were definitely an "instagramable" material and that's what counts for me.

tOrNadO™ said:
Coming from Nexus 6p, feels like Oneplus 6 is a downgrade when it came to low-light camera performance.. Some samples below..
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Indeed
Big failure are usual in low light
Nexus 6p was amazing with face details and low light was good

Stock nightmode

GCAM NIGHT SIGHT for OnePlus 6
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-oneplus-6t-get-working-night-sight-mode-from-pixel-3/amp/

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
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Low light performance is awesome. Better than my previously owned S20 Ultra
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Low light performance is awesome. Better than my previously owned S20 Ultra
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Nice, are these taken using gcam?

No, they were taken using the xiaomi camera app and night mode

Al3xxxinho said:
Low light performance is awesome. Better than my previously owned S20 Ultra
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Wow that looks awesome! Thanks for sharing.

This place was very dark.
Stock xiaomi camera.
It's simply awesome

I'm not trying to be offensive but are you sure that those pics are better than s20ultra?
I feel I can take those pics with my note 10+

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I'm not trying to be offensive but are you sure that those pics are better than s20ultra?
I feel I can take those pics with my note 10+
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I agree only that it can't outperform S20Ultra - only to match sometimes. It has been proven that for Mi Note 10/ Mi 10 Pro there is better processing than S20 Ultra looking at the details. Even 9 to 1 bining does not work that good with this gen. But the margin is so small and noticable only in pixel peeping. Xiaomi's native cam night mode is very bad from Mi Note 10 and Mi 10 - I see that with this model 10T Pro they improved a little. Hope this will be fixed with updates in future.
For Note10+ I would not compare these much - yes for resolution like 'instagram' it would match looking at small scale, but at even slightly zoomed in (especialy in PC) it really outperforms Note10+ at everywhere - this is for night mode (gcam used on xiaomi). At day time yes, Note 10 series processing is great, only it lacks looking inspection at details. But for most uses the rendering on samsung is way aheat comparing to native xiaomi app (not gcam).

Makonator said:
I'm not trying to be offensive but are you sure that those pics are better than s20ultra?
I feel I can take those pics with my note 10+
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I doubt it is better than S20 Ultra.
I am not so impressed by this camera, when I take pictures of the letters on a Fanta can the letters are not sharp but with my Mi Mix 2S it is sharp.
I haven't tried to take pictures outside in daylight yet.

freeDom21 said:
I agree only that it can't outperform S20Ultra - only to match sometimes. It has been proven that for Mi Note 10/ Mi 10 Pro there is better processing than S20 Ultra looking at the details. Even 9 to 1 bining does not work that good with this gen. But the margin is so small and noticable only in pixel peeping. Xiaomi's native cam night mode is very bad from Mi Note 10 and Mi 10 - I see that with this model 10T Pro they improved a little. Hope this will be fixed with updates in future.
For Note10+ I would not compare these much - yes for resolution like 'instagram' it would match looking at small scale, but at even slightly zoomed in (especialy in PC) it really outperforms Note10+ at everywhere - this is for night mode (gcam used on xiaomi). At day time yes, Note 10 series processing is great, only it lacks looking inspection at details. But for most uses the rendering on samsung is way aheat comparing to native xiaomi app (not gcam).
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I've received some pics from mi10t pro (stock app) and compared with my gcam note 10+...Even on zoom in difference is minor.
I'm asking this coz I'm thinking of selling note 10+ and getting this one...than put gcam on it...Problem is, I like note (looks, spen, screen, ONE UI)...but I do love camera upgrade.

Makonator said:
I've received some pics from mi10t pro (stock app) and compared with my gcam note 10+...Even on zoom in difference is minor.
I'm asking this coz I'm thinking of selling note 10+ and getting this one...than put gcam on it...Problem is, I like note (looks, spen, screen, ONE UI)...but I do love camera upgrade.
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If gcam works on your note 10+, so its SD 855 processor?
In that case I would wait for next gen, Note10+ overall offers better experience.

freeDom21 said:
If gcam works on your note 10+, so its SD 855 processor?
In that case I would wait for next gen, Note10+ overall offers better experience.
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It's exynos and it works...there is only one gcam for exy. called zgcam...custom cfg etc...problem is in one ui 2.5...samsung lock RAW on front cam...