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Hello,
I just recently picked up a GN3 from Pakistan and due to how shady the cellphone market is here, I have been trying everything I can to figure out whether my phone is a fake or not. The device was shipped in from the UAE and what concerns me a little is the information I'm getting using a few apps that scan the CPU.
My knowledge in this regard is a little weak and for some reason I feel like I don't have the chipset that Samsung might have wanted me to have. Please take a look. I have the SnapDragon 800 version (SM-9005).
Should the processor say something along the lines of SD800E instead of ArmV7?
Thanks in advance.
Use this app if it's available to you and it will tell you if its real or a fake. It compares it to other devices.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hotdog.truth
Thats a Legit N3, All SOC are ARM Based.
Manufacturer, Device, Product, Brand, Android Version, API level,build ID, Fingerprint, Resolution, Processor, Memory, etc is all correct. From that app atleast you should have this if you scroll down:
OpenGL 1.X (Adreno(TM) 330 same for GL 2.0
Graphics mode should be RGBA 32BIT
If so, your all set. You can also benchmark it for peace of mind... your score should be 17~20k on quadrant and geekbench 3 should be 800+ for single-core and 2400+ for multi-core. (Mines 869/2510 GB3, 20K on Quadrant but stock should be abit lower)
There is no way any of the fake note 3 soc will come close to these scores.
nxneko said:
Thats a Legit N3, All SOC are ARM Based.
Manufacturer, Device, Product, Brand, Android Version, API level,build ID, Fingerprint, Resolution, Processor, Memory, etc is all correct. From that app atleast you should have this if you scroll down:
OpenGL 1.X (Adreno(TM) 330 same for GL 2.0
Graphics mode should be RGBA 32BIT
If so, your all set. You can also benchmark it for peace of mind... your score should be 17~20k on quadrant and geekbench 3 should be 800+ for single-core and 2400+ for multi-core. (Mines 869/2510 GB3, 20K on Quadrant but stock should be abit lower)
There is no way any of the fake note 3 soc will come close to these scores.
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I scored 28894 ..that decent? Says faster then 92% of devices in the world lol
03redgti said:
I scored 28894 ..that decent? Says faster then 92% of devices in the world lol
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Yeah thats good then.... lol your in the clear what rom/kernel though...holyheck.
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nxneko said:
Yeah thats good then.... lol your in the clear what rom/kernel though...holyheck.
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Jellybomb with beast mode kernal
floko127 said:
Hello,
I just recently picked up a GN3 from Pakistan and due to how shady the cellphone market is here, I have been trying everything I can to figure out whether my phone is a fake or not. The device was shipped in from the UAE and what concerns me a little is the information I'm getting using a few apps that scan the CPU.
My knowledge in this regard is a little weak and for some reason I feel like I don't have the chipset that Samsung might have wanted me to have. Please take a look. I have the SnapDragon 800 version (SM-9005).
Should the processor say something along the lines of SD800E instead of ArmV7?
Thanks in advance.
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That's definitely a legit n9005. I have the same stuff come up on mine which is uk version.
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Just a heads up though, if you use xposed framework and have xprivacy installed it can come up as a fake due to the app not having permission to read all the info.
I have 2 Note 3's that are "Fakes" but as soon as xprivacy was turned off they become Genuine...
Hi i had note 4.but i left note 5..because of. No memcard support battery is small cpu is low than mate 8..recarding the gpu.
I saw mate 8 gpu scores 20000 points in antutu 3d. Same as note 5 scores in antutu 6.0
What do u say
I came over from the Note 3 and it slaughters the Note 3 in performance. I am very happy purchasing the 128gb version from China. Only thing was setup took a little more effort.
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nabilsweet007 said:
Hi i had note 4.but i left note 5..because of. No memcard support battery is small cpu is low than mate 8..recarding the gpu.
I saw mate 8 gpu scores 20000 points in antutu 3d. Same as note 5 scores in antutu 6.0
What do u say
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If you are really looking only Antutu and GPU scores, please wait year 2020. There will be much faster devices available.
nabilsweet007 said:
Hi i had note 4.but i left note 5..because of. No memcard support battery is small cpu is low than mate 8..recarding the gpu.
I saw mate 8 gpu scores 20000 points in antutu 3d. Same as note 5 scores in antutu 6.0
What do u say
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cpu is fastest on the planet for mobiles, beating all apple cpus, snapdragons (including 820) and even the exynos 8890. the gpu though is basically mainstream, so if youre a hardcore mobile gamer then tmu should check this out further. its definitely fast enough for current games, especially at fullHD and it also doesnt throttle, a huge advantage to other SoCs that give u a few minutes of awesome performance and then throttle down to half speed
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jbmc83 said:
cpu is fastest on the planet for mobiles, beating all apple cpus, snapdragons (including 820) and even the exynos 8890. the gpu though is basically mainstream, so if youre a hardcore mobile gamer then tmu should check this out further. its definitely fast enough for current games, especially at fullHD and it also doesnt throttle, a huge advantage to other SoCs that give u a few minutes of awesome performance and then throttle down to half speed
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I saw comparison in utube between mt8 n iph6, the loading test mt8 was beaten by iph6.. but it kills note5 in another clip.
What d u think jbmc? What does make iph6 wins?
i sold my note 5 to get mate 8
i am very happy with mate cpu performance
but mate 8 camera beside note 5 cam is ****
gyn said:
I saw comparison in utube between mt8 n iph6, the loading test mt8 was beaten by iph6.. but it kills note5 in another clip.
What d u think jbmc? What does make iph6 wins?
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i would actually call it a tie, since the iphone only won due to faster boot up time. with the rest, the mate 8 was faster the difference there being a combination of software & hardware. the cpu itself is much faster in the mate 8, whereas apple has an advantage over any other android phone due to its ability to be able and design hardware and software all in one swoop.
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Hello everyone! Got S7 edge 1 week ago and used the ordinary benchmarks to see the numbers, and i feel its pretty bad compared to what i see from other devices and compared to other s7 edge devices.. it almost pass 130k on antutu and the 3d perfomance its bad, almost every game i try it lags a bit. Does anyone know that's going on?
I got EU version with Exynos.
Thank you in advance
What do you score in AnTuTu?
xocomaox said:
What do you score in AnTuTu?
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My score is 131396 (cant upload pic cause i am new in this forum)
What is bothering me is that comparing with another s7 edge devices they have score 134599
and their Gpu Score is so higher than mine and i feel thats why my device lagging at games..
mine at 3d [garden] is 17500 and at 3d[Marooned] 22927 and at the other s7 edge are 3d [garden] 23484 and 3d[Marooned] 33831
Relar said:
My score is 131396 (cant upload pic cause i am new in this forum)
What is bothering me is that comparing with another s7 edge devices they have score 134599
and their Gpu Score is so higher than mine and i feel thats why my device lagging at games..
mine at 3d [garden] is 17500 and at 3d[Marooned] 22927 and at the other s7 edge are 3d [garden] 23484 and 3d[Marooned] 33831
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Sd820 model scores better on 3d. But your antutu score is normal. Some say they have bad gaming performance on both sd820 and exynos..I'm not seeing it on mine but maybe it's there?! Either way,there is no game that even remotely stresses the GPU on both models yet so it's most likely a SW issue which they will fix in the future.
Relar said:
My score is 131396 (cant upload pic cause i am new in this forum)
What is bothering me is that comparing with another s7 edge devices they have score 134599
and their Gpu Score is so higher than mine and i feel thats why my device lagging at games..
mine at 3d [garden] is 17500 and at 3d[Marooned] 22927 and at the other s7 edge are 3d [garden] 23484 and 3d[Marooned] 33831
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3k score difference is nothing to worry about. If it was 10-20k I would be concerned.
I got 90k for my S7 Edge S820 Version.
I notice some fps drops on some games. Even on FB messenger basketball gaming, it is lagging
Ohh thnx for ur answer! I see its about cpus the difference on antutu.. what version do u have? And what games u play? I wanna check them to mine
xocomaox said:
3k score difference is nothing to worry about. If it was 10-20k I would be concerned.
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Everytime i try it is different ive done it now and got 128389 :/ i dont know what affect the benchmark
johanbiff said:
Sd820 model scores better on 3d. But your antutu score is normal. Some say they have bad gaming performance on both sd820 and exynos..I'm not seeing it on mine but maybe it's there?! Either way,there is no game that even remotely stresses the GPU on both models yet so it's most likely a SW issue which they will fix in the future.
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Ohh thnx for ur answer! I see its about cpu the difference on antutu.. what version do u have? And what games u play? I wanna check them to mine
iamslark said:
I notice some fps drops on some games. Even on FB messenger basketball gaming, it is lagging
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ye generally is lagging and its lagging at chrome while schrolling down..
f_u_006 said:
I got 90k for my S7 Edge S820 Version.
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wow... did u find any way to fix it?
Relar said:
Ohh thnx for ur answer! I see its about cpu the difference on antutu.. what version do u have? And what games u play? I wanna check them to mine
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Dont worry about your benchmarks, antutu sucks anyway it's the least consistent benchmark program ever and have unexplained high and low scores on phones. I'm on exynos. Have been trying angry birds 2, epic war 2td and unskilled with no issues.
Relar said:
Everytime i try it is different ive done it now and got 128389 :/ i dont know what affect the benchmark
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Heat. Heat is what effects it the most. Try this, throw your phone in the fridge for 10 minutes and then benchmark. See what it scores then.
Some games run awesome and others run like crap. I think it may be optimization issues. Asphalt 8, Clash Royal and Trials Frontier run awesome with zero lag yet Hearthstone has lag all over the place.
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Relar said:
wow... did u find any way to fix it?
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I restarted my cellphone and waited for it to cool down (temp), i made it to 120k.
I am still not happy with it, S820 needs some serious optimization with the android 6.0.x. It's slow and lags a lot.
I'm using the Exynox version with no lags whatsoever. All games are running pretty fine. And RAM management is top scoring.
I don't know what happened to OP. You might wanna ping the service centre as there might be some faulty units sold and your's might be one of them.
Poor optimized apps and poor user optimization. nubs
Jomari29 said:
Poor optimized apps and poor user optimization. nubs
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Well you can help us
techsammy said:
I'm using the Exynox version with no lags whatsoever. All games are running pretty fine. And RAM management is top scoring.
I don't know what happened to OP. You might wanna ping the service centre as there might be some faulty units sold and your's might be one of them.
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You think so? They will know if its faulty or i should return it? How u check ram managment?
Hello , i am using the exyynos variant of the s7 edge. When i benchmark it i get a score of 105000 on average.
But the other s7 edge variants get a score of 138000. which is a big differance. Does anyone know y this is happening.
I experiance some log while playing games too.
Thanks in advance
jharsh143 said:
Hello , i am using the exyynos variant of the s7 edge. When i benchmark it i get a score of 105000 on average.
But the other s7 edge variants get a score of 138000. which is a big differance. Does anyone know y this is happening.
I experiance some log while playing games too.
Thanks in advance
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Be sure you bench the phone from a cold state as the score will drop big time if it's heated. Also the lag should go away in two weeks.
turn off all power saving options and other features present in nougat
also, whisper in its ear when you start the benchmark from cold...
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It's normal. I get lower score in Antutu Benchmark every device I use like Note 2, Note Edge, S7 Edge. There are too many reasons for that, first is heat. Number of installed app, cache, thumbnails, Whatsapp Files and SD Card fullness are other things to effect Antutu score.
(Antutu Average Score is calculate in best conditions, I mean, it's just theorotical score, not pratically. So, you don't need to think about getting lower score on Antutu )
Like everyone said, you should bench from cold state. Also delete every app running in backround. :good:
like it matters... the overall performance is the most important and I addume you're happy with S7 speed.
life is too short to worry about benchmarks
Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
https://youtu.be/LfZUNL5hyVw
Scores on these things are useless, not worth watching the video
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Definitely don't waste your time on watching such a useless video with cheesy "royalty free" muzak.
My S20 Ultra feels as smooth as my iPad Pro 2018. Which is saying a LOT!
AVB0010 said:
Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
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Simply put you are comparing apple to oranges. The Huwaei phone does not have any Google services so not all things can be considered equal here.
Until the Huweai is a real Android phone with Google services than this comparison is null and void.
EDIT: Also, Huweai has been caught doing unscrupulous things before. So gaming the benchmark system would not at all surprise me.
S20 ultra results doesn't make sense to me. You can download an app called androbench to test the storage speed. This is my score from Exynos S20U 5G
I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...
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I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...
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Snapdragon version right?
Aezhyr said:
Snapdragon version right?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
Snapdragon here, cold as ice.
Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz
Paul_Deemer said:
Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz
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I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.
Aezhyr said:
I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.
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Get the Snapdragon
Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.
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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.
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I'm not saying I'm not happy, but I open the camera for 5 minutes and CPU goes to 65°C +, it's insane. The performance is great, but no "ultra" like the Snapdragon version
I love this phone, but it's like loving a Ferrari with a Fiat Punto engine! The design is amazing, the screen and etc. But I feel like I'm being ripped off by paying 10% more for a phone that's 10% worse.