Can I install regular android pie instead of miui? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Questions & Answers

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And if I flash it on to begin with will it then just receive normal updates when 1 is available?
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What do you mean by "regular Android Pie"?
You can flash any Android Pie based ROM but most, if not all, don't support updates through OTA, so you have to manually update your phone every time a new update is released.

Gonime said:
What do you mean by "regular Android Pie"?
You can flash any Android Pie based ROM but most, if not all, don't support updates through OTA, so you have to manually update your phone every time a new update is released.
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So it would never just update/ update in settings?
And regular android pie without miui overhaul, so just the basic like on the pixels.

Pikachu666 said:
So it would never just update/ update in settings?
And regular android pie without miui overhaul, so just the basic like on the pixels.
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If you install an "Official" ROM, then you have OTA update if I'm not misstaken.

regular android pie sounds like pie built from android official sources, which wouldn't be very pleasant to use since it lacks a lot of features :silly:
but since u mentioned "like the pixels" (surprise, pixel system is also a skin), there is pixel experience for u to try, and an official one just got published here, so I'd recommend u try that. however, it still lacks a lot of other customisations that custom roms offer, while they still also offer a stock pie feel. so if you're not satisfied with pe, u can also try other custom roms.
official status is not required for ota updates; I've used several unofficial roms that had otas. ota is only available if the dev is nice enough to provision for it. official status does increase the likelihood of it happening though.

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Stock ROM vs Custom ROM

I've yet to set-up my new OP5, as i'm still undecided whether to stick with the stock 4.5.4 ROM, or try 1 of the custom ROMs that are currently available.
Who's stuck to stock, and who's tried/trying a custom with a kernel?
Stock ROM = ROM that was supplied with the OP5
Custom ROM = ROM that has been shared on forums by developers. etc.
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As off now I am on stock but will surely be going over custom ROM and custom kernel. Custom ROM and Kernel surely gives some extra benefits over stock(battery backup and many other features.)
So just test the phone for any HW defects or any for a week or so and you are good to root.
As far as I'm concerned, stock is a custom ROM. Not sure which option on the poll to pick...
Elnrik said:
As far as I'm concerned, stock is a custom ROM. Not sure which option on the poll to pick...
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By custom, i'm refering to custom ROMs that XDA users have shared on the forum.
Stock ROM = ROM that was supplied with the OP5
Custom ROM = ROM that has been shared on forums by developers. etc.
Most of what I needed custom ROMs for in the past can be accomplished with oxygen OS now so I probably wont be installing anything aside from OEM updates until they stop supporting this device, if I still have it at that time. And when I do, it's just to try out whatever the latest OS is so I'm familiar with the new features when I do upgrade.
I think the most I will do for now is root, and TWRP but I'm still up in the air about that.
I think Oxygen OS works really nice at the moment, i will stay stock for now.
Updates will come rapidly from Oneplus thus the custom ROMS are not worth it for me at the moment.
Once Lineage or RR Remix arrives i will switch to custom ROMS
I'm on FreedomOS and it's very faster then original OxygenOS... I like this for now better than the original one
I've had my OP5 since yesterday and it's been fantastic and I haven't felt a need to use a custom ROM at all. I also usually add a custom kernel to I can change sounds and increase vibration sensitivity (may still do a kernel). I'm getting just over 9 hours of SOT with everything stock. I mean hell I used Google Maps today for 1 hour straight and it only used 6% battery!? My Nexus would have lost at least 18-20%.
When it's all said and done, I'm sure I'll get the itch to ROM and kernel this phone, but this is truly the first phone I don't feel a need to right now. Of course I rooted the phone and applied TRWP the first 5 min I had the phone haha. That goes without saying for my root apps like TB, Accubattery and Nova Launcher.
Can anyone check if the jelly effect is still there after they flashed the custom roms?
roba93 said:
I think Oxygen OS works really nice at the moment, i will stay stock for now.
Updates will come rapidly from Oneplus thus the custom ROMS are not worth it for me at the moment.
Once Lineage or RR Remix arrives i will switch to custom ROMS
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that's exactly what i would do
I really like the stock ROM. Coming from Samsung and LG phones, the OP5 is already running the type of ROM I'd likely flash to those phones if I could. I did root it though, and I'll likely stay this way unless something really compelling comes up, or OP stops updating it.
Using stock for now. I personally see no point in switching to custom until AOSP/LOS based ROMs begin appearing. It's still going to be Oxygen OS with basically the same features if I'd switch now.
As of now i'm sticking with stock. The phone is still young and i expect software updates to happen more frequently. As soon as the ROM's have more time to be developed and mature and OnePlus slows down the updates I will probably switch. As of now all the ROM's and recovery's are still in development and I am choosing to wait till it smooths out a little.
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
I'm on xXx 2.0 Stock ROM and it works great. I will wait until everything is working to move to custom rom.
FreedomOS is a very good rom.
Also with Boeffla, Magisk.
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zeyaan said:
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
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Anyone can confirm if zoom 2x and PhotoEditor, for Camera, are working on CUSTOM Roms ?
zeyaan said:
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
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May I ask, how is your idle drain on H2OS? What did you tweak to improve battery life?
I'm on H2OS too (so far unrooted), and idle drain is crazy... I even uninstalled Google Play Services (using Yalp Store to get Google Play Apps). Now Android System and Android OS kill my battery haha.
Stock OOS 4.5.6
Rooted with Magisk
Pixel Launcher, Android Messages, Google Dialer
Works great!
Stock rom with dirty core, amazing, while dirty unicorns is not released
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Is it possible to downgrade Nexus?

I'm now using Android Oreo, but I'm considering installing unofficial Android system to my Nexus. I'd like to try Android Oreo or android Nougat. But the thing is I'm afraid that my phone may be laggy or buggy.
According to the post for Nougat port, the camera doesn't work well on the system.
So I'm wondering if I can downgrade to my Android Lollipop in case I can't stand the new system.
Thanks!
You can switch ROMs back and forth at any time, just make sure you make backups and always do a clean flash. Custom ROMs are always a subject to bugs so go for the most stable one you can find which would be Lineage OS.
John Chu said:
I'm now using Android Oreo, but I'm considering installing unofficial Android system to my Nexus. I'd like to try Android Oreo or android Nougat. But the thing is I'm afraid that my phone may be laggy or buggy.
According to the post for Nougat port, the camera doesn't work well on the system.
So I'm wondering if I can downgrade to my Android Lollipop in case I can't stand the new system.
Thanks!
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There are many rock stable Nougat ROMs available for mako and you can easily find them on xda. Even some of the Oreo ROMs are stable enough to be daily drivers...
And yes, you can downgrade or upgrade the versions as you wish (that's the benefit of having a Nexus phone, isn't it?)
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is worth to flash a custom rom

Hello guys, I would like to know from you if its worth it to flash a customrom on my mia1. I've been using it since one year now , and i have keept it stock, just the camera2api for gc.
And over all i've been happy with it.
And have 0 experience with A/B partition phones ,my previews phone was nexus 6.
Is it easy to flash twrp and than a custom rom ?
Any suggestions would be apreciated :victory:
Depends what extra feature you seek.
I use stock happily with xposed
I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
nananonoka said:
I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
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Thats what i've been thinking too , its not that i need any more features , im used to stock android.
In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer:
Xiaomi seem to not be that good with speed & quality of updates. I haven't experienced many bugs myself but just the fact how slow updates are compared to custom ROMs and the fact that Magisk doesn't work properly on Stock made me just forget about it and flash a Custom ROM.
The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
MrBurnGamer said:
In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
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I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
kudos1uk said:
The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
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Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
orgert said:
Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
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I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
Better flash custom roms after xiaomi drops the updates. Like after a year Pie updates.
lolmensch said:
I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
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Or xposed
orgert said:
I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
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Don't be afraid of A/B Partition, CosmicDan TWRP very easy to use

Up-to-date ROM with OTA updates?

Hello,
I'm looking for a ROM that has OTA updates and is actually being developed. What I see is that half of ROMs are abandoned, and other half will be abandoned in the nearest future, which imo is a real issue with custom ROMs.
Do you know any ROM, that will live for at least 1 year, will received updates, and won't be necessary to wipe data for every update?
Shamefully I see that there's no official LineageOS ROM for this device, which would be really great
Noone can say how long a Rom will be developed for at least 1 year. I changed from unterwelts Aicp to DotOs which is uptodate with security patch.
There's no official custom rom for markw, so no otas on any rom.
You don't need to clean flash if you're updating the same rom.
Markw is already a 2 year+ old device, looking for custom rom with 1 year long support commitment is ambitious for us, as there's not so many devs out there for markw. What they're offering, we're grateful for that.
If you don't want the hassle of flashing roms manually, want a stable device, I guess official miui is the best choice for you.

IS it worth to install custom roms?

Like the title says, is the original rom good? Or should i go custom right as i boot it 1fst time
It worth it, at least you get the notifications work correctly and shows at the top of the status bar unlike the stock rom..
My advice to you is to istall lineage only, it's the most stable rom so far.
It depends on your priorities, if you want more choice, more control on what apps are pre installed, no bloatware, and more customization options, then that's what custom roms are for. But mind that it comes with lower security, at least as long as the manufacturer updates the device. Because custom roms usually run with looser security settings and features.
does custom roms fix the touchscreen lag on the edges?
Not worth it yet. Wait till official lineage and official trwp are released. More risky to use custom roms whose source codes are not released.
kennyk09 said:
Not worth it yet. Wait till official lineage and official trwp are released. More risky to use custom roms whose source codes are not released.
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as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
xs1cht said:
as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
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You don't get updates on unofficial versions and it's not as well maintained/supported as name implies. I rather keep bootloader locked and secured, and get almost monthly updates from xiaomi. Until official TWRP and LOS are released, as stated earlier. No need to rush and deal with instability or unexpected problems. I debloat unnecessary apps using SAKI program on stock room without root. I honestly think this is the best path to go for now.
I won't install any custom roms before official TWRP support and official LineageOS ROM support comes. I'd not also unlock my phone's bootloader untill those two thing comes.
julianbraso said:
does custom roms fix the touchscreen lag on the edges?
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I switched to Pixel Exirience rom from the global 10.3.5 and touch latency on the edges still the same.
I don't know what custom rom users priorities are, mine definitely having a smooth and proper working device. Most roms I tested in the past simple but most used features, like the camera, were always a headache. It might make sense for a techie or geek, but for daily use I'd rather debloat MIUI for mind peace...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...loat-redmi-note-7-miui-10-3-5-0-root-t3928466
any of you guys installed xiaomi.eu? seems like the better version of miui IMO.
sn4ezz said:
I switched to Pixel Exirience rom from the global 10.3.5 and touch latency on the edges still the same.
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have you tried flashing another kernel?
Maybe THIS can help you with your choice.
julianbraso said:
have you tried flashing another kernel?
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The Evira Kernel is built into the PE, so i just updated it to the last 1.9 version and did not feel any difference.
sn4ezz said:
The Evira Kernel is built into the PE, so i just updated it to the last 1.9 version and did not feel any difference.
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bummer (( i was really hoping it was a software issue and a kernel could fix it
xs1cht said:
as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
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If you just want to get rid off the bloatware, just use adb commands. No unlocking and rooting needed
If you got the 3GB/32GB variant. then lineage OS or pixel experience should save you some extra GBs of storage and free you some extra ram (MiUI 10.3.5 uses 1.6GB or something IDLE and leaves you with 20GB storage with stock apps)
It is to early. You have latest version of Android OS on your phone, and Xaomi still give us updates with some new features.
Custom Roms are still developing and have some bugs,so .. I will no rush with installing custom rom yet. Thats my opinion.
When Xaomi stop supporting us and giving us updates,after one year that is sure that will happen,than will custom ROMs will be fully developed..and can install it..
I would like to have custom rom ,and Elvira kernel, I like tweaks and mods from Magisk. But also I want to see MIUI 11 and next Xaomi updates for RN7.
As soon as I could, I unlocked my bootloader and installed AOSP (GSI).
I don't really like MIUI, it has a lot of nice features but actually I don't use most of them.
For me, it's worth.

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