Basic questions about face functions (particularly on screen rotating bezel features) - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am on XDA, so obviously into tech. However, I have never wanted a smart watch because my watches have always worked just fine and I didn't want to complicate my life with another device. Now, I am considering a smart watch, but only because I want features of certain faces from watches I can't afford. So I am looking at some websites like facer and facerepo, and I see these faces, but I get the feeling the faces don't really do what I want. Jumping right to it, here are a few faces I'm talking about. I want to know if any of these actually have a fully functional rotating bezel slide rule, because they don't really say on most of them.
https://www.facer.io/watchface/UJHabwygLz
https://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/citizen-promaster-eco-drive-15be46ec61a
https://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/navitimer-world-164d340d79f
Point is, if I could have any watch, I would want a Breitling Navitimer, but I can't spend $5k on a watch. I want a chrono with 3 subdials for seconds, 30-60 minutes, and 12-24 hours, along with a slide rule bezel. I assume most of these faces don't have a functional bezel ring. Some of them that I have found specifically say that the bezel ring is for something like battery charge or simply not functional.
But then there are some like these...
https://facerepo.com/app/faces/details/titan-gmt-diver-15412757952 (It says functional diver's bezel ring, and "just start tapping")
And most particularly interesting to me is this one:
https://www.watchfaces.be/roger-dubuis-diver/
It specifically says tap 12 o'clock to access the dive bezel and tap center to zoom. So this tells me that I am able to make a face with a rotating bezel function, but I can't test it out since I don't have a watch, so I don't really understand how it works.
So my questions are basically, is it practical to make a rotating bezel function like a slide rule? And secondly, what exactly does the "zoom" look like? Because small numbers on a watch face are difficult to read. Can I make a face with slide rule bezel that works and be able to zoom into a portion that I am trying to dial in and then zoom to another part of the ring to read the numbers? If so, a smart watch is in my future.
Finally, I see some of the watches like the Samsung Galaxy or the Fossil Sport that have physical pushers on the face. Can I program those to work like chrono buttons? Or do they only function for OS navigation? I would like to be able to make a watch that functions like an analog watch and uses the pushers like a regular watch if possible. I don't even really care that much about the smart functions right now. Any advice is appreciated.

You can use facer and watchmaker without watch. It is an Android app working on phone. So you can load the faces into the app and see how they works. I think that Watchmaker was better (and easy) than Facer. For bezel rotate or anything else you can do what you want yourself with Watchmaker(facer) so no limit

dersie said:
You can use facer and watchmaker without watch. It is an Android app working on phone. So you can load the faces into the app and see how they works. I think that Watchmaker was better (and easy) than Facer. For bezel rotate or anything else you can do what you want yourself with Watchmaker(facer) so no limit
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If those features are available to make into a face, I guess it might be worth it to try it out. Thanks for the recommendation. I'll look into the watches more and will try a face on the phone before I buy anything, to make sure I like the functions.

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What new apps would you like to see next?

List a few apps you would love to see created for wm devices. Here are some I would like to see (if not already available.)
1. App that changes spoken word into text
2. App to change voice (pitch, tone, etc) as you speak into your device
3. Spoken language converter for communication between two different languages
4. Radar to detect movement within a specified radius
5. calorie calculator - input what your eating throughout the day and it provides the # of calories for each item and gives a total
6. Car alarm interface - lock/unlock your car using your device
7. Battery maximizer - automatically cuts power to anything not being used/ auto restores when used and figures best output needed for operation
8. reserve 911 power - allows 5-7 mins of talk if 911 is dialed on a dead battery
9. Background noise reducer
10. flashing flare - signal for emergency or to get attention of others in dark places like clubs or movies. (choice of colors)
Some of those apps are a little too futuristic, like Spoken language converter, Car alarm interface (even if it would be able to make, it would probably be illegal?), though some others I think wouldn't be too hard to make for the developers here.
I dont have any specific request, I'd just love to see a game/app with nice graphics for once Most apps gui are kinda lame, even though the function is superb. Like if someone could do a remake of DiamondBeer and make it more realistic like the iPhone one (yeah I know, I'm jealous of all the apps iPhone has). Why dont developers and designers go together when they're creating stuff? Everything would be so much better with some teamwork
Tough I have an game/useless app idea. Kinda like a voodoo-doll using physics and the accelerometer. Like you toss a figure around by shaking your device and the figure gets more and more damaged..
Pomegranate NS08
http://www.pomegranatephone.com/
I agree some apps are a bit on the futuristic side but it's fun to dream.
Here are some in the games category please excuse me if it already exists:
1. Bowling - bowl is lauching by finger swipe (faster the swipt the faster the roll)
2. Dodgeball - control your character with your finger (see through image of your charter like oldschool punch out) and avoid the balls being thrown by other character. You can place the face of anyone in your pictures on the attacking/target character. Catch balls with a correctly timed tap.
Am I the only one that wants to see someone rewrite the text messaging side of the diamond?
Its crap.
Its not intuitive, its not finger friendly it doesn't look good and its slow.
And is it just me but when I try to look through past messages they seem t be in the wrong places. Like messages I've recieved aren't in the inbox. Messages I've sent aren't in the sent box!
Oh god, I can't stop laughing at that Pomegranatephone. Haha, awesome, would be cool if it actually was possible to make one of those.
vale|46 said:
Pomegranate NS08
http://www.pomegranatephone.com/
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I love the shaving part!
i think the bowling idea mentioned above is a great idea.
would love to have it.
using G-sensor to curve the ball could be interesting
concerning the "flashing flare", I made my very first WinMo app with your idea... So, please be kind ^^
Hope you'll like it
I'll add some features, like the morse code mode or the possibility to save the settings
Edit : translation corrected
Noone likes my sadistic voodoo-app?
Oh I just remembered what I want pretty bad now. a working landscape mode in tf3d.

[Q] Stop screen from rotating

So I bought one of the cases recommended over in the accessories forum, which holds the tab propped up at an angle. It really helps with typing and all around use when you set the Tab on a desk or table. The way the case works, the camera is on the side closest to the user. Whenever I open any game (Angry Birds, Vendetta Online, etc) it flips the orientation so that the camera side is on top, instead of on the bottom. This has made it unusable! The case designer had the right idea, since putting the tab in the other way would expose the charging port (It's a folio style case). I've tried turning off the automatic screen orientation setting, but it didn't help. Any ideas?
Blaine12 said:
So I bought one of the cases recommended over in the accessories forum, which holds the tab propped up at an angle. It really helps with typing and all around use when you set the Tab on a desk or table. The way the case works, the camera is on the side closest to the user. Whenever I open any game (Angry Birds, Vendetta Online, etc) it flips the orientation so that the camera side is on top, instead of on the bottom. This has made it unusable! The case designer had the right idea, since putting the tab in the other way would expose the charging port (It's a folio style case). I've tried turning off the automatic screen orientation setting, but it didn't help. Any ideas?
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I'm not sure I'm following your description of how the case functions. Something like this? Could you link the case model?
I've been wondering about this as well. I really don't think there's anything we can do about it..
pandamaja said:
I'm not sure I'm following your description of how the case functions. Something like this? Could you link the case model?
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Here is a link to the case I bought.
Pics here & here of how the case folds.
Regardless of all that, the real question is... How do I run games and such with the bottom of the screen being the camera side? I thought the whole point of doing away with all the physical buttons was so that it could be rotated any which way?!?
smaskell said:
I've been wondering about this as well. I really don't think there's anything we can do about it..
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Well there is one thing we could do...
Spend $59.99 on the Samsung case
Blaine12 said:
I thought the whole point of doing away with all the physical buttons was so that it could be rotated any which way?!?
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Total guess here, but maybe it has something to do with applications that need to track orientation (like Vendetta) and/or programming decisions by the developers (Angry Birds?).
If its a programming thing, maybe theres a way to send a bug report to the developers about the orientation issue and they could roll it into a future update.
Or ... just learn to play Vendetta with the thumb controls and Angry Birds must be a whole new experience upside down ;-)

What do you use the S pen for?

Thought it would be interesting to make a thread on how people are using the S-pen. Give people some new ideas or whatever.
I rarely use it. My handwriting sucks so the Note has no idea what I'm writing. Although normal people can't read my writing when I write with pen/paper anyway, so no surprise there.
I mostly use the S-pen to play Nemo picross actually, ha ha ha! It sure is nice to shrink the grid to a tiny size (20x20 visible) and use the pen to play. When I used my fingers on my mytouch 4g, I'd have to use a 9x9 visible grid, and I'd have to scroll all over the place.
- Frank
Nose & ear hygiene
Keep my girlfriend busy drawing while I'm watching football.
Sent from my Galaxy Note through telekinesis
pjm77 said:
Nose & ear hygiene
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HAHA my granddad uses his car key!
To be honest I only pulled it out to show people what it can do, doubt I will ever need to use it which is a shame considering the time and energy that must have gone into implementing it so nicely!
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HAHA my granddad uses his car key!
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That is so 1980s! You've got to keep up with times, for godssake
Playing World of Goo.
Japanese handwriting recognition.
Faster typing with Swype.
Handwritting with Graffiti Pro recognition method. Works way better than inbuilt one as you use simplified characters.
Also drawing and photo masking/editing.
i use it for swypeing - i rly like it.
GTD. Any time something comes up that I have to do, I do a quick memo and send to evernote inbox. each day I open evernote inbox and process all items. I make a handwritten lists of the task for that day and save the other ones to a next actions folder in evernote.
I use the stylus for Swyping and everything else, any time my fingers are a little damp and not sliding smoothly over the screen.
djowett said:
Keep my girlfriend busy drawing while I'm watching football.
Sent from my Galaxy Note through telekinesis
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Lol.... I do the same thing except I watch cricket.....
But she got so addicted to it that she wants one now....
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I use the pen for selecting small items on web pages where zooming is not allowed and where a laptop and mouse would be needed e.g. in charting packages. I also find it useful for selecting text during editing where you need to be precise.
removing earwax, my finger is much more accurate than the s-pen to draw with
I figure it's a tool that needs to be learned like a musical instrument.
A little bit every day, until you get to the point where you're fluid, expressive, and extremely efficient.
Right now, I'm practicing here and there. Here's what I hope to be able to do very quickly with the S-pen in a couple months:
-- pull up S memo, jot down a quick note or 5, save in a "pile"; convert to text to be scheduled/organized later; shared to Evernote/Skitch/class notebook
-- screen capture pages and images, then edit/crop them to share later (like in the fancy demos)
-- sketch quick ideas, like charts and graphs, to import into a presentation form (ppt, email to group, into a video tutorial)
-- learn to draw (How to Draw app), to make quick flyers, invites, and ads
-- be very familiar with photo editing, exporting
-- be very familiar with video editing, exporting
-- annotate PDFs, whiteboards
-- be fluent enough to demonstrate all this to gawkers
As of now, I'm just dipping my toes in the all these pools. So much to learn, so little time...
I will say that I'm finding the tiny stylus and the inconveniently placed button difficult. I think the larger Samsung pen accessory into which the stylus can be inserted is somewhere in my future...
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I use it to use the note when the temperatures are very low and I have my gloves on.
I love drawing and sketching with the s pen...
I also use it to write out messages quickly. Once you get used to using the s pen, handwriting input can be pretty fast - I manage to fit 4-6 words even on the portrait version of handwriting input for msgs and that works out pretty well; it's even better in landscape..
I use the pen for selecting small items on web pages too and also some games are much easier to play using the pen.
In the winter I imagine not having to take gloves off to use my phone (except to get the pen out of the slot of course!)
If you're asking though "Is it a gimmick?" then I will say NO. It is genuinely useful.
Nothing
My 9 year old daughter used it once to draw and keep herself busy whilst waiting for the main course to arrive
show off in front of my freinds it serves no other purpose.
I was so impressed by this I'm pseudo bumping it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354191
I kind of suspected that either you the stylus a LOT or you don't use it much at all.
- Frank

[Q] Any other great uses for the S-Pen?

Hi all,
First off, I love my Note. Its absolutely fantastic - the screen, the screen/device size ratio, the thinness, the performance, the camera. For me this is the best phone on the market today. I also love the S-Pen and the feeling of writing on the screen.....but I have no apparent use for it? It appears that I bought the phone for all its other features apart from its unique selling point.....
For texting, emails, tasks - they keyboard with swiftkey is miles faster - especially as the size of the device allows two-thumbed fast typing.
Maybe for jotting down phone numbers, etc if I'm on a call but if I'm on the phone I cant really use it (dont want to do speaker) and I'll ask the other person to send an email or text with details.
Diagrams may be a use but usually if I'm sitting down to do diagrams for someone I'll grab a piece of A4 (and take a picture of it afterwards).
I dont attend lectures or conferences at the moment so I dont need it for fast scrawling in those scenarios.
I dont do art on the phone.
The only thing I cant think of is possibly meeting notes.
It just seems a bit of a waste - its a great feature but looking for a application.
Anyone else feel this or have any any other uses I could possibly make use of? I'm not particularly worried about not using the S-Pen but would like to find a useful application for it is poss.
Cheers.
Games.
I particularly find Fruit Ninja to work better with a pen, just like hidden object games, builder games, match 3 games and other such. Anything that requires you to see the full expanse of the screen without your fingers/hand getting in the way, really.
Also, it makes it easier to keep your screen clean, like whn you want to watch a full-HD film without getting fingerprints on the screen. (or during lunch.)
I used to have small pieces of paper with notes, like shopping list, things to do, phone #, deadlines, notes from the meetings etc. No more of that, I still forget sometimes I have phone to take notes, but slowly getting used to it. Also I hate typing, especially on the phone, so I'm not good at it and always hit the wrong keys with my fingers, so actually I prefer typing with the pen (very minimal, like website name or search, I don't do texting) and my kids love drawing sketches on it. I think my next phone will have to have s-pen.
Thanks for the ideas guys. Didnt think about games or, in fact, using the S-Pen as the main navigation tool. I guess it would be a lot more precise and if I get used to *always* getting it out to use the phone maybe I'll find more uses for it.
Unfortunately I can't post my ideas here as they are X-rated.
I use my pen to cover the hole in the bottom of my phone

[Q] What are the most AWESOME and AMAZING apps in your opinion?

What are your favourite apps for android wear, not talking the usual ones everyone knows about... Share the unique and exciting ones you have discovered yourself! Love to hear about some more apps to show off my watch and how awesome it can be!
I think the things you can do with autowear are the most amazing. When I get home I command my watch to turn on my computer and it does that. Or I can control my phone with a dpad that I made with autowear as well. If you use xbmx/kodi somewhere you should also have a look at yatsi, it's a remote. With that you can control your xbmc/kodi device both from your phone and your watch! A flashlight app is also useful, although it doesn't provide much light, it emits enough for you to navigate through the house in the dark.

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