Thought it would be interesting to make a thread on how people are using the S-pen. Give people some new ideas or whatever.
I rarely use it. My handwriting sucks so the Note has no idea what I'm writing. Although normal people can't read my writing when I write with pen/paper anyway, so no surprise there.
I mostly use the S-pen to play Nemo picross actually, ha ha ha! It sure is nice to shrink the grid to a tiny size (20x20 visible) and use the pen to play. When I used my fingers on my mytouch 4g, I'd have to use a 9x9 visible grid, and I'd have to scroll all over the place.
- Frank
Nose & ear hygiene
Keep my girlfriend busy drawing while I'm watching football.
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pjm77 said:
Nose & ear hygiene
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HAHA my granddad uses his car key!
To be honest I only pulled it out to show people what it can do, doubt I will ever need to use it which is a shame considering the time and energy that must have gone into implementing it so nicely!
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HAHA my granddad uses his car key!
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That is so 1980s! You've got to keep up with times, for godssake
Playing World of Goo.
Japanese handwriting recognition.
Faster typing with Swype.
Handwritting with Graffiti Pro recognition method. Works way better than inbuilt one as you use simplified characters.
Also drawing and photo masking/editing.
i use it for swypeing - i rly like it.
GTD. Any time something comes up that I have to do, I do a quick memo and send to evernote inbox. each day I open evernote inbox and process all items. I make a handwritten lists of the task for that day and save the other ones to a next actions folder in evernote.
I use the stylus for Swyping and everything else, any time my fingers are a little damp and not sliding smoothly over the screen.
djowett said:
Keep my girlfriend busy drawing while I'm watching football.
Sent from my Galaxy Note through telekinesis
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Lol.... I do the same thing except I watch cricket.....
But she got so addicted to it that she wants one now....
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I use the pen for selecting small items on web pages where zooming is not allowed and where a laptop and mouse would be needed e.g. in charting packages. I also find it useful for selecting text during editing where you need to be precise.
removing earwax, my finger is much more accurate than the s-pen to draw with
I figure it's a tool that needs to be learned like a musical instrument.
A little bit every day, until you get to the point where you're fluid, expressive, and extremely efficient.
Right now, I'm practicing here and there. Here's what I hope to be able to do very quickly with the S-pen in a couple months:
-- pull up S memo, jot down a quick note or 5, save in a "pile"; convert to text to be scheduled/organized later; shared to Evernote/Skitch/class notebook
-- screen capture pages and images, then edit/crop them to share later (like in the fancy demos)
-- sketch quick ideas, like charts and graphs, to import into a presentation form (ppt, email to group, into a video tutorial)
-- learn to draw (How to Draw app), to make quick flyers, invites, and ads
-- be very familiar with photo editing, exporting
-- be very familiar with video editing, exporting
-- annotate PDFs, whiteboards
-- be fluent enough to demonstrate all this to gawkers
As of now, I'm just dipping my toes in the all these pools. So much to learn, so little time...
I will say that I'm finding the tiny stylus and the inconveniently placed button difficult. I think the larger Samsung pen accessory into which the stylus can be inserted is somewhere in my future...
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I use it to use the note when the temperatures are very low and I have my gloves on.
I love drawing and sketching with the s pen...
I also use it to write out messages quickly. Once you get used to using the s pen, handwriting input can be pretty fast - I manage to fit 4-6 words even on the portrait version of handwriting input for msgs and that works out pretty well; it's even better in landscape..
I use the pen for selecting small items on web pages too and also some games are much easier to play using the pen.
In the winter I imagine not having to take gloves off to use my phone (except to get the pen out of the slot of course!)
If you're asking though "Is it a gimmick?" then I will say NO. It is genuinely useful.
Nothing
My 9 year old daughter used it once to draw and keep herself busy whilst waiting for the main course to arrive
show off in front of my freinds it serves no other purpose.
I was so impressed by this I'm pseudo bumping it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354191
I kind of suspected that either you the stylus a LOT or you don't use it much at all.
- Frank
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List a few apps you would love to see created for wm devices. Here are some I would like to see (if not already available.)
1. App that changes spoken word into text
2. App to change voice (pitch, tone, etc) as you speak into your device
3. Spoken language converter for communication between two different languages
4. Radar to detect movement within a specified radius
5. calorie calculator - input what your eating throughout the day and it provides the # of calories for each item and gives a total
6. Car alarm interface - lock/unlock your car using your device
7. Battery maximizer - automatically cuts power to anything not being used/ auto restores when used and figures best output needed for operation
8. reserve 911 power - allows 5-7 mins of talk if 911 is dialed on a dead battery
9. Background noise reducer
10. flashing flare - signal for emergency or to get attention of others in dark places like clubs or movies. (choice of colors)
Some of those apps are a little too futuristic, like Spoken language converter, Car alarm interface (even if it would be able to make, it would probably be illegal?), though some others I think wouldn't be too hard to make for the developers here.
I dont have any specific request, I'd just love to see a game/app with nice graphics for once Most apps gui are kinda lame, even though the function is superb. Like if someone could do a remake of DiamondBeer and make it more realistic like the iPhone one (yeah I know, I'm jealous of all the apps iPhone has). Why dont developers and designers go together when they're creating stuff? Everything would be so much better with some teamwork
Tough I have an game/useless app idea. Kinda like a voodoo-doll using physics and the accelerometer. Like you toss a figure around by shaking your device and the figure gets more and more damaged..
Pomegranate NS08
http://www.pomegranatephone.com/
I agree some apps are a bit on the futuristic side but it's fun to dream.
Here are some in the games category please excuse me if it already exists:
1. Bowling - bowl is lauching by finger swipe (faster the swipt the faster the roll)
2. Dodgeball - control your character with your finger (see through image of your charter like oldschool punch out) and avoid the balls being thrown by other character. You can place the face of anyone in your pictures on the attacking/target character. Catch balls with a correctly timed tap.
Am I the only one that wants to see someone rewrite the text messaging side of the diamond?
Its crap.
Its not intuitive, its not finger friendly it doesn't look good and its slow.
And is it just me but when I try to look through past messages they seem t be in the wrong places. Like messages I've recieved aren't in the inbox. Messages I've sent aren't in the sent box!
Oh god, I can't stop laughing at that Pomegranatephone. Haha, awesome, would be cool if it actually was possible to make one of those.
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Pomegranate NS08
http://www.pomegranatephone.com/
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I love the shaving part!
i think the bowling idea mentioned above is a great idea.
would love to have it.
using G-sensor to curve the ball could be interesting
concerning the "flashing flare", I made my very first WinMo app with your idea... So, please be kind ^^
Hope you'll like it
I'll add some features, like the morse code mode or the possibility to save the settings
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Noone likes my sadistic voodoo-app?
Oh I just remembered what I want pretty bad now. a working landscape mode in tf3d.
Does anyone know of an app for Android tablets that can do this? I have just switched from an iPad1. I used Noteshelf for taking notes and it was very very smooth. There were plenty of others too.
I have tried all the ones I can find for Android:
Genial Writing
PenSupremacy
Handrite
Freenote
and more
They are incredibly bad with text not appearing until seconds after you lift the stylus/finger or curved lines being squared off. Even the drawing apps are terrible. My guess is either the Asus TF is very under-powered to be able to do this smoothly or there's just no developers focusing on this.
Anyone?
Try:
Writepad
Anripaper note
For drawing I use Sketchbook Pro
I've started using Antipaper, and I like it. I'm unsure of whether or not I wanna pay for the full version though (when it becomes available). I like my tf, but I'll probably use it to supplement with notes, not to take actual notes in class..
you can change the delay setting in freenote to reduce the delay between you stopping writing and it showing the text.
try it again and play with the settings.
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you can change the delay setting in freenote to reduce the delay between you stopping writing and it showing the text.
try it again and play with the settings.
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Indeed you can....
I found the best speed for my use was 400ms. This cleared up the delay issue.
You can use Myscript notes mobile it can be ported of a lenovo ideapad.
http://www.visionobjects.com/en/myscript/personal-notes-and-forms-management-applications/myscript-notes-mobile/description/
I would look into writepad stylus, he has a thread over on the Xoom forum where you can follow his progress.
Writepad forum thread
Otherwise DrawPro is great for TF for just drawing, otherwise your best bet is still FreeNote right now.
OK, Antipaper looks usable. Looking forward to the PRO version. Shame it can't email the complete notepad, but I can cope.
Thankyou very much for the recommendation.
When I got my transformer I immediately felt that browsing on it was a little uncomfortable when compared to the control I have on a desktop computer. I've noticed one poorly executed function was the PC equivalent of a "mouseover" or "hover" function. It made opening hover menus in a browser or controlling a flash video player a bit awkward, although still functional.
I've recently stumbled upon on 2010 article on why a Flash developer believes that flash would not work on the iPad, but many of the points that he makes are very valid given the implementation of flash that we have on our transformers.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/02/20/an-adobe-flash-developer-on-why-the-ipad-cant-use-flash/
I was just wondering if this was something you've all noticed and perhaps if you have your own ideas as to how a mouseover functionality could have been better implemented in android.
Also, I've once tried to bring this up in another topic which ended up getting closed, so let's try to keep that from happening.
Thoughts?
Multitouch. Tap with 2 fingers to "hover".
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
I think that a double tap would be a good solution for something like bringing up flash player controls without pausing the video.
What about scrubbing the video? For instance, with youtube you can use your mouse and move it (without clicking) along the progress bar while being shown the exact time in the video that you are currently pointing at. This obviously makes rewinding and fast forwarding much easier on a computer. I suppose on a tablet you would double tap and then drag your finger, as per this implementation?
EDIT: Wow, I'm sorry I totally misunderstood. You actually mean't using two fingers as opposed to double tapping with one.
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I'll be brutally honest. You've got what I like to call not-used-to-something-that-is-new syndrome.
I'm sure when the personal computer first came out, people were crying left and right that typing on the computer was uncomfortable compared to the typewriter. In fact, if you go back long enough, I'm sure people were whining left and right that the page turning book format was uncomfortable to read compared to the scrolls. Heck, why stop there? I'm sure writing with ink was really awkward and uncomfortable to those who were used to the chisel and hammer.
The fact of the matter is every time a new technology came up, there would undoubtedly be resistance to the change. I have no doubt that there were arguments against Gutenberg's invention (the printing press).
I say the advantages of the tablet far outweighs the disadvantages. And please don't start arguing that the tablet could never replace your pc. No one is making such claim.
That was unnecessary.
The question here is how to make the "hover" functionality more intuitive.
i think a multitouch or swipe gesture would be the best option.
for example with the mousover menus, if u could quickly swipe across said menu to have it show the options.
not sure if its viable but who knows
or even a double tap. tap once to open the menu, tap again to select an entry or go to the main link
The problem is that a multitouch would register as a zoom function, not a hover function.. Computer analyses aren't good enough to tell the difference between two points of contact with relatively stable distance between them vs two points of contact moving away (because it's sensitive right now..?).
im using an external mouse really like it looking forward to ics for no more keyboard lag
i hope at least
also i would like a scrolling in facebook chat and pictures so you can see comments
p.s typing from it right now
I am using Logitech bluetooth keyboard with touchpad [designed for PS3]. For now it's the best solution for me.
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I am using Logitech bluetooth keyboard with touchpad [designed for PS3]. For now it's the best solution for me.
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are you havin keyboard lag?
i mean if like on facebook it doesnt respon as fast a computer
just checkin if the keyboard is problem or honeycomb
All I have to complain about is XKCD in Google Reader (app), and there's probably an app or greasemonkey script for this already.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Flash the KRAKD Rom no more keyboard lag
DESIRE HD using ER3BUS ASUS TRANSFORMER on KRAKD
You will find that as more web developers and designers switch to HTML5 and CSS3 (which the stock android browser already supports btw) it will be much more of an experience like a desktop computer. In fact, hover effects implementing CSS3 currently support mouseovers on our transformer. the hover transitions work pretty dang well actually
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
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All I have to complain about is XKCD in Google Reader (app), and there's probably an app or greasemonkey script for this already.
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Yep: https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5ieXR0ZW4ueGtjZHZpZXdlciJd
Click the title of the item in google reader and it opens in xkcd viewer, and there you can click on the cartoon to get the hover-over.
Yeah its clearly not good, I also frequently miss a keyboard with cursor keys to move around in an input field.
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You will find that as more web developers and designers switch to HTML5 and CSS3 (which the stock android browser already supports btw) it will be much more of an experience like a desktop computer. In fact, hover effects implementing CSS3 currently support mouseovers on our transformer. the hover transitions work pretty dang well actually
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
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How exactly is the "hover" functionality implemented on the transformer with HTML5 and CSS3, in terms of how the user is able to call on the function?
Yeah, I'm trying to encourage someone who's a developer on a web software I use quite often to add the clickhover property to the default theme instead of pure hover. Not only does that enhance browsing on tablets, but it also supports a11y.
yes, mouse-over or the lack of it is a real pain in the ***. I use Opera Mobile and browsing websites that use mouse-over navigation without the dock is really annoying.
is there a fix/workaround/touch-combination to get the mouse-over effect working?
The problem is that a multitouch would register as a zoom function, not a hover function.. Computer analyses aren't good enough to tell the difference between two points of contact with relatively stable distance between them vs two points of contact moving away (because it's sensitive right now..?).
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This is false. There's nothing magical going on here, a touch UI is only as good as how it's programmed.
Two points of contact with stable distance CAN be discerned from two points moving away. For example a naive method to do this would be to store the last N number of touched coordinates per some time slice in the form of a recency list and then perform some minor arithmetic operations on them to determine the delta and make a reasonable assumption as to whether movement is occurring. It might be harder to discern movements where the quantity is similar to each other but where one quantity is essentially zero movement and the other is any movement, this is not so difficult to do.
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yes, mouse-over or the lack of it is a real pain in the ***. I use Opera Mobile and browsing websites that use mouse-over navigation without the dock is really annoying.
is there a fix/workaround/touch-combination to get the mouse-over effect working?
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Hi all,
First off, I love my Note. Its absolutely fantastic - the screen, the screen/device size ratio, the thinness, the performance, the camera. For me this is the best phone on the market today. I also love the S-Pen and the feeling of writing on the screen.....but I have no apparent use for it? It appears that I bought the phone for all its other features apart from its unique selling point.....
For texting, emails, tasks - they keyboard with swiftkey is miles faster - especially as the size of the device allows two-thumbed fast typing.
Maybe for jotting down phone numbers, etc if I'm on a call but if I'm on the phone I cant really use it (dont want to do speaker) and I'll ask the other person to send an email or text with details.
Diagrams may be a use but usually if I'm sitting down to do diagrams for someone I'll grab a piece of A4 (and take a picture of it afterwards).
I dont attend lectures or conferences at the moment so I dont need it for fast scrawling in those scenarios.
I dont do art on the phone.
The only thing I cant think of is possibly meeting notes.
It just seems a bit of a waste - its a great feature but looking for a application.
Anyone else feel this or have any any other uses I could possibly make use of? I'm not particularly worried about not using the S-Pen but would like to find a useful application for it is poss.
Cheers.
Games.
I particularly find Fruit Ninja to work better with a pen, just like hidden object games, builder games, match 3 games and other such. Anything that requires you to see the full expanse of the screen without your fingers/hand getting in the way, really.
Also, it makes it easier to keep your screen clean, like whn you want to watch a full-HD film without getting fingerprints on the screen. (or during lunch.)
I used to have small pieces of paper with notes, like shopping list, things to do, phone #, deadlines, notes from the meetings etc. No more of that, I still forget sometimes I have phone to take notes, but slowly getting used to it. Also I hate typing, especially on the phone, so I'm not good at it and always hit the wrong keys with my fingers, so actually I prefer typing with the pen (very minimal, like website name or search, I don't do texting) and my kids love drawing sketches on it. I think my next phone will have to have s-pen.
Thanks for the ideas guys. Didnt think about games or, in fact, using the S-Pen as the main navigation tool. I guess it would be a lot more precise and if I get used to *always* getting it out to use the phone maybe I'll find more uses for it.
Unfortunately I can't post my ideas here as they are X-rated.
I use my pen to cover the hole in the bottom of my phone
Hello, so I'm trying to draw with the S-Pen. I tried Sketchbook by Autodesk but it doesn't seem as good as S-Note from what I can see.
If I want to just straight out draw over an existing picture in S-Note it's a real pain.. I can't seem to just open the picture in S-Note, only incest it somewhere on a blank page.
WORST OFF ALL, and I can't stress this enough, is when I move the pen too slowly it brings up this God awful crop/move/delete menu.. how can I destroy this evil pop-up that comes up every time I try to make slow precise lines?
This is my first note, surely there must be a better way to do this, can anyone tell me what that is?
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Hello, so I'm trying to draw with the S-Pen. I tried Sketchbook by Autodesk but it doesn't seem as good as S-Note from what I can see.
If I want to just straight out draw over an existing picture in S-Note it's a real pain.. I can't seem to just open the picture in S-Note, only incest it somewhere on a blank page.
WORST OFF ALL, and I can't stress this enough, is when I move the pen too slowly it brings up this God awful crop/move/delete menu.. how can I destroy this evil pop-up that comes up every time I try to make slow precise lines?
This is my first note, surely there must be a better way to do this, can anyone tell me what that is?
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Have had every Note phone and can say if you want a better experience try Autodesk Sketchbook. It's more driven for artist with references that match some components in Photoshop, S Note is really made for sketching. Second of all, don't get to used to adding a lot of detail in a drawing unless if you love to zoom in and out all the time, the screen will take a little getting used to but once you got it you'll be alright!