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Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Xiaomi Poco F1 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I've rated selfie cam average coz it's a mixed bag
In artificial lighting conditions it produces somewhat blurry images. In fact selfies in complete darkness with the screen flash look better than selfies in artificial lights such as tubelights, bulbs etc. Bokeh selfies are better with more details as compared to normal selfies.
I'm talking about selfies with 0 beautification.
I must admit that I'm coming from nexus 5 which has 1.2 mp front camera so maybe I was expecting a bit too much from the 20 mp cam of Poco f1!
Come to think of it, various hardware checking apps show front camera as 5 mp!
May be they are detecting secondary camera at the back as front camera...anyone knows any app that detects all 3 cameras (megapixel and sensor used) correctly??!

It is correct with 5mp. The Cam combines four Pixels top one Superpixel.

I thought it's detecting 5 mp is secondary back camera and mistaking it for front cam
ConradB said:
It is correct with 5mp. The Cam combines four Pixels top one Superpixel.
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So you mean the front camera is actually a 5 mp cam and it should be denoted as such in hardware info apps such as CPU X? This explains why the selfie quality wasn't much much better as I had expected. I'm not that impressed with this 4 pixel combining to form a Superpixel technology....at least in poor lighting conditions.
It would also mean that the secondary 5 mp camera at the back isn't mentioned in the information generated by such apps!
Shouldn't it be mentioned?
I hope I'm clear on this point.

Noticed nowadays new camera unable to capture sharp pic for grp selfie
Grp selfie is where u at front n few members at the back to ensure everyone fit it in the picture
But what happen is only ur pic is sharp while the rest quite blur
This not happened during single lens with fix focus like s7 or 2016 model
How to fix this ?

I must admit that the selfies come out blurry when taken indoors especially when taken with volume rocker. It shakes up due to the press of the button. Do you guys face that?

senthilrameshjv said:
I must admit that the selfies come out blurry when taken indoors especially when taken with volume rocker. It shakes up due to the press of the button. Do you guys face that?
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I assume you might already be aware, they do have the option to use the fingerprint scanner as shutter.
Camera - Settings , scroll down and find it under Additional settings

watsinaname said:
I assume you might already be aware, they do have the option to use the fingerprint scanner as shutter.
Camera - Settings , scroll down and find it under Additional settings
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Yes indeed. But just verifying if it's only my phone gets blurry due to such small shakes.

senthilrameshjv said:
Yes indeed. But just verifying if it's only my phone gets blurry due to such small shakes.
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It's the same with me also, even on the rear camera most of the pictures taken on artificial lighting conditions are blurry because of that shaking.

The correct name for this thread is "Blurry camera" Quality
Even with the tripod its taking blurry shot - Cool is it ?
Need a Fix for this soon

The youtube reviews were good regarding the front camera & even the photos were good. Were the review units different or the camera hardware in the 8gb+256gb?
am i just speculating? :crying:

nC3rtaintiy said:
The youtube reviews were good regarding the front camera & even the photos were good. Were the review units different or the camera hardware in the 8gb+256gb?
am i just speculating? :crying:
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Mine is 128gb 6Gb variant bought during 1st flash sale
Same camera blurry image issue

zaro143 said:
Mine is 128gb 6Gb variant bought during 1st flash sale
Same camera blurry image issue
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its all units
all get blurry with even the slightest nudge

I see the phone uses a 20MP sensor from Samsung.
This not a real 20MP camera...I mean, it can't be! Or it's very, VERY bad, even in natural light conditions.
The quality of selfies is way inferior to the 12MP sensor of the back camera.
The amount of details captured by it makes it look more like a 5-8MP sensor...

CygnusBlack said:
I see the phone uses a 20MP sensor from Samsung.
This not a real 20MP camera...I mean, it can't be! Or it's very, VERY bad, even in natural light conditions.
The quality of selfies is way inferior to the 12MP sensor of the back camera.
The amount of details captured by it makes it look more like a 5-8MP sensor...
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Cause that Samsung lens contain 4 5mp lens

sayan1st said:
Cause that Samsung lens contain 4 5mp lens
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Nice travesty

It's pretty good considering Huawei and Samsung selfie are overfiltered and poor quality.
This one can see your pores and pixel bins to prevent noise.

Hi look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssw9H08ddlw

You guys are completely crazy or have fault devices. The frontal camera is absolutely amazing. My girlfriend have a XS and its there's no comparison, F1 is much better in every way. You just need to turn off Beautiful Mode and increase sharpness on Options to make things more clear. It's one of the best selfie cameras that I ever see in my life. Get out of here you guys.
But there's a issue that Xiaomi need to fix. The camera dont focus acurately subjects at 1 meter from device. If you use Selfie Group Mode, the problem is gone.

The issue is with focus which is fixed at a distance of around 50cm. Beyond that, objects get blurred.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Redmi Note 8 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm able to open the wide angle camera in pro mode only. Is this the only way to open it?

No, you have to slide between zoom button to switch between cameras, sliding right to 0.6x will take you to the wide angle camera

Wide angle
Or you can pinch in to get to wide angle.
Ian

Amazing!

Just zoom into that seagul ? it's too detailed
Lol XDA just reduced the quality.... But trust me... The camera quality is the best in this segment.... No phone can match... I mean realme XT is nearer but still I love natural colours which realme doesn't give... So for me redmi note 8 pro is better

Amaz

Overall very happy with camera.
Portrait is amazing.
Wide angle is useful
Main cam is better than I hoped.
2x is the only downside so far. Very hit and miss.

Couple of point and shoots. Didn't use night mode on the evening shots

irhur said:
Or you can pinch in to get to wide angle.
Ian
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OMG Thank you. I never knew this gesture.

Hi guys,
Do you also have the problem when you take a picture it's rotated? Especially when you hold it horizontally.

hello
i have problem with the camera quality
i just bought this phone and so disappointed with its camera
the details when zoom in after taking a picure is not clear
and when photo people with rear camera and zoom in, the faces looks weird ,check the attached
i know xda will reduce the quality but i guess it will give you a hint
can you please help me
mine has latest miui version global
thanks

This is a phone with camera.. Not a DSLR with phone

AlphaBravo said:
This is a phone with camera.. Not a DSLR with phone
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i guess you know i realize that
im talking about something shouldnt even happen in 5 years old phones with camera
i had my meizu pro 5 with 20 mb and till recently its camera is awesome in details and its zoom was astonishing
even with older phones from lenovo didnt produce such weird textures or that noise on pictures

you bought the wrong phone for photography, it's because of mediatek sensor processing, it can't par with 2019 best lenses
and with that sensor, even video recording I've seen on rn8 pro, it's a bit better than my.. 2015 redmi note 2, only a bit better..
you could try gcam, but it will never work 100%
my gf's 2 years 90€ redmi 5 gcam does a lot better job at photography on day and night.

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you bought the wrong phone for photography, it's because of mediatek sensor processing, it can't par with 2019 best lenses
and with that sensor, even video recording I've seen on rn8 pro, it's a bit better than my.. 2015 redmi note 2, only a bit better..
you could try gcam, but it will never work 100%
my gf's 2 years 90€ redmi 5 gcam does a lot better job at photography on day and night.
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aha thanks alot for your reply
i thought maybe there was an issue with my phone or the latest firmware ruined its quality
then better to go with snapdragon mobiles i guess

It's a good mediocre phone with a not so good camera. Not the best. But it justifies its price.

Redmi note 8 Pro main Camera.
32seconds, iso 3200

Very blurry. I'll take mine to the warranty see what we can do and make out of it

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Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the OPPO Find X2 Pro performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Same selfie cam as OP8pro, nonetheless the selfies on the oneplus are superior in exposure, detail, focusing

Sirflosse said:
Same selfie cam as OP8pro, nonetheless the selfies on the oneplus are superior in exposure, detail, focusing
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Oneplus 8 Pro has a different selfie camera sensor.
The selfie on Find X2 Pro lacks any kind of stabilization, OP has it stabilized (and well).

Killer007TV said:
Oneplus 8 Pro has a different selfie camera sensor.
The selfie on Find X2 Pro lacks any kind of stabilization, OP has it stabilized (and well).
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Oh, thank you for clarifying this, it definitely explains the big difference.

Sirflosse said:
Oh, thank you for clarifying this, it definitely explains the big difference.
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No problem Sir.
Find X2 Pro's selfie photos are decent, I'd say average. HDR is present and works well, although in front portrait mode it might overbrighten the image.
Oneplus 8 Pro has it stabilized which makes for much better vlogging experience. On the other hand, Oppo has a night mode for the front camera which drastically improves low light performance.
Personally I'm glad Oppo scrimped on the front camera quality as I almost never use it and a better camera would only increase the price.

It gets a pass. Certainly not as good as the pixel or iPhone. Seems to beautify too much.

I'd agree, the weakest part of the phone - HDR not that good, photos come out soft and stabilization isn't great. Not as good as the OnePlus 8 pro although that's not perfect either, very sharp but makes everyone look red and too warm.

Selfie camera is very poor comparing to other mobiles in the same price range .

KlNG said:
Selfie camera is very poor comparing to other mobiles in the same price range .
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Coming from iPhone 11 Pro, i totally agree with you. The selfie mode is way over exposed most of the time and in case you have light coming right in the camera the picture is very bad. The iPhone does it way better.
In definition, when conditions are good (no direct light source in the lens) this sensor is way better than the iPhone's one.

Is selfie camera there better that in the latest iPhone?

Kassiuss said:
Is selfie camera there better that in the latest iPhone?
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Yes, the iPhone 12 selfie camera is definitely better than the Find X2 Pro.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Redmi Note 9 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I do have to add, that I tested the fine detail of the 48MP Redmi note 9S vs the LG G6 16MP camera, static shot, side to side and guess what, at the same image width, the LG is sharper and has more detail
48 super mega random pixels LOL

/\ Megapixels was never a comparison thing.. You have to dig into pixel density of the sensor, not quantity of Megapixels.. that's noob.... I'm on iPhone 8 Plus right now and it have only 12MP and is SUPERB.. But I'm planning to buy a cheaper phone.. I would add that Redmi note 9 Pro has 64MP sensor I guess.. It's a little bit better.. the photo is larger and so it can accomodate more pixel density.. I don't know if my iPhone 8 Plus is better or not regarding camera but I won't afford another one if anyone steal it from me.

Luckzzz said:
/\ Megapixels was never a comparison thing.. You have to dig into pixel density of the sensor, not quantity of Megapixels.. that's noob.... I'm on iPhone 8 Plus right now and it have only 12MP and is SUPERB.. But I'm planning to buy a cheaper phone.. I would add that Redmi note 9 Pro has 64MP sensor I guess.. It's a little bit better.. the photo is larger and so it can accomodate more pixel density.. I don't know if my iPhone 8 Plus is better or not regarding camera but I won't afford another one if anyone steal it from me.
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i just bought the RN9PRO global, i took this picture in 64MP this morning, what do you think of the quality ?

Quad Bayer 48MP means only 12MP after pixel binning. I do not see how choosing one from every four small pixels is better than simply having regular sized pixels without binning (other than being able to market it as a 48MP camera). The photo quality is not crap. It has less noise than my older phones. But that is all I can say about it.

Here is a sample image. It is a set of three images of the same scenary side-by-side. Among the first two (left and centre), one is taken in 48MP mode, the other is taken in default mode. I will not tell which one is taken in 48MP mode. See if you can figure it out. (Hint: You can not, because there is no difference). The last one (rightmost one) is HDR.
https://imgur.com/d66cSqS.jpg
Notice how the HDR mode preserves a lot more details in the darker areas, but everything in the brighter areas get a ton of halo around themselves. The halo is present in non-HDR image too, but its effect is much less.
Overall, this camera is nothing special.

Camera on curtana sucks! I don't like it at all. My old oneplus phone can even do better shots than it.

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i just bought the RN9PRO global, i took this picture in 64MP this morning, what do you think of the quality ?
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Honestly, I didn't like it.. It's blurred(not focused) on the center of image.. look likes there's a huge circle unfocused on center..
I guess I will go for S10 Lite or S10+

Well, I have noticed that you can zoom-in deeper with the gallery app on pics taken with 48MP mode.
But the differences on quality compared to pixel binning pics is really small, on the screen of the phone almost not noticeable.
Cam is okay for quick shots, I guess.
But what I'm missing for example are details when zooming into a taken pic. When zooming in, pics becoming blurry fast, will say things that are more in the background are not really as sharp as I wish they would be.
Have also tested different versions of GCam, but returned to the stock cam app. It gives me the "best" results and works most stable.

I have clicked the photo on redmi note 9S/ 9 Pro and edited in Adobe Lightroom

ArjunMC said:
I have clicked the photo on redmi note 9S/ 9 Pro and edited in Adobe Lightroom
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Btw the car is not mine. I have just captured a parked car.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm on MIUI 12, so far I'm not that impressed.
I already understood that gcam is going to be mandatory here.
There is a white hue on many photos. It mostly overexpose photos. If you are trying to focus on a dark object, the photo will be extremely overexposed. This did not happen with my 2017 LG V30.
There is no real feedback for a good focus. Tap to focus, but nothing really tells you it's locked.
The location of the wide angle lens is impossible not to touch if you're holding the phone with you left hand.
I only have it for 1 day , I'll have to test it longer.
Still searching for the perfect gcam version.
Pure Image quality: Noise reduction algorithm can be weird sometimes. Photos tend to be overexposed. Lack contrast.

if you're interested in whole range gcam results, I uploaded full size samples here:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64072534

I update my pro from miui 11 global to miui 12 xiaomi eu.photos quality has degrade especially at night shots.also canera apk has changed.i hope they improve it...

Z953RR said:
I update my pro from miui 11 global to miui 12 xiaomi eu.photos quality has degrade especially at night shots.also canera apk has changed.i hope they improve it...
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Use gcam. It's probably the best camera phone in the market when you use gcam.

miui 11 global error in background separation in medium distance portraits

Z953RR said:
I update my pro from miui 11 global to miui 12 xiaomi eu.photos quality has degrade especially at night shots.also canera apk has changed.i hope they improve it...
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I think you're right!
I downgraded from EU MIUI12 to Global MIUI11 and photo quality looks better.

galr said:
I think you're right!
I downgraded from EU MIUI12 to Global MIUI11 and photo quality looks better.
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I gave many chances to XIAOMI. Sold a brand new device and loose money. I don't accept anymore a company that degrade the camera quality in they flagship device by updates... (i even try miui 12 stable, and many A11 betas)... Unless they change they're stradegy(or hire a proper dev team) I'll never buy again!!!

Z953RR said:
I gave many chances to XIAOMI. Sold a brand new device and loose money. I don't accept anymore a company that degrade the camera quality in they flagship device by updates... (i even try miui 12 stable, and many A11 betas)... Unless they change they're stradegy(or hire a proper dev team) I'll never buy again!!!
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i dont get it ! how did it degrade ? its getting better and better with every updates and they are adding a tons of new features !
and i am using gCam with ultimate xml as well and never found any phone gives the same limit of details !
after this phone is not going to SH*ty samsung oneui or huawei or whatever! sticking to xiaomi for sure !! amazing battery amazing camera best speakers screams quality and countless software features

The mi 10 pro has better picture quality than previous versions.
I tested it with a friend of mine, the pictures are amaaaaazing.!!!

vodovodo said:
i dont get it ! how did it degrade ? its getting better and better with every updates and they are adding a tons of new features !
and i am using gCam with ultimate xml as well and never found any phone gives the same limit of details !
after this phone is not going to SH*ty samsung oneui or huawei or whatever! sticking to xiaomi for sure !! amazing battery amazing camera best speakers screams quality and countless software features
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Which version of gcam are you using ? And where can I get the ultimate xml ?

New version of VCX forum out today.
https://vcx-forum.org/score/version-2020
Mi 10 Pro general good score except for performance(AF/timing). 1 point!!!

Yeah but those results are all using the built in app and who actually uses the built in rubbish ?
Would be good to see camera reviews with Gcam installed but no reviewer seems to be aware of Gcam ports, I think they all live under rocks.

I don't underestimate VCX forum. I think they know about Gcam. However, in their measurement and comparison they use stock cam apps and I think that is reasonable.
If the Xiaomi stock app is that bad, then Xiaomi must do something about it, their own product.
That said, the score for Mi 10 Pro in image quality is actually good.

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That said, the score for Mi 10 Pro in image quality is actually good.
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Yeah but its so much better with Gcam.

Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro Photo Quality
As far as the cameras are concerned, the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro on the rear packs a 108-megapixel primary camera with an f/1.69 aperture and a pixel size of 1.6-micron; a second 8-megapixel camera with an f/2.0 aperture and a pixel size of 1.0-micron; a third 12-megapixel camera with an f/2.0 aperture and a pixel size of 1.4-micron and a fourth 20-megapixel camera with an f/2.2 aperture. The rear camera setup has autofocus. It sports a 20-megapixel camera on the front for selfies.

And your point is ? We all know the specs this thread is about picture quality.

vodovodo said:
i dont get it ! how did it degrade ? its getting better and better with every updates and they are adding a tons of new features !
and i am using gCam with ultimate xml as well and never found any phone gives the same limit of details !
after this phone is not going to SH*ty samsung oneui or huawei or whatever! sticking to xiaomi for sure !! amazing battery amazing camera best speakers screams quality and countless software features
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can you pls post some pictures? i want to buy the mi 10 pro but i see a lot of noise in those pictures, blurry photos, take a look at the guy up posted some picturesc with chimney. only the chimney looks good the rest is rubish, a lot of noise and distorsion. how is this good? and he used gcam i'd wish to see a comparison between p40 pro and mi 10 pro but with latest firmwares maybe with gcam on both. for me this pics are just not worth 1.000 euros

There is only noise when you zoom in very far, the pics are great with gcam with all three cameras, the 8mp 3.7 zoom lens gives surprisingly good results too, I dont use the built in camera app, I never do, gcam is best, plenty of reviews around with pics. Cant upload examples cos theyre too large.

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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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its really really nice my friend has it wish i could buy it too