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Mate 8 in the USA. Thoughts?

I have ordered two Mate 8's for my wife and I off of gizok.com. Both are the AL10 model, so they're the Chinese model. Has anyone had any problems using with the AL10 in the USA? Has anyone been receiving OTA updates in the USA?
I plan on using it with my existing T-Mobile account, and since its dual sim, I can ditch my business phone, and kill two birds with one stone (I hate iPhones). I already have it set up to unlock the bootloader, and root the phone, but I'm hoping that I won't have to because being that this phone is so new, I don't want to miss any incoming OTA updates that may come in. I know I'm taking a risk in buying unlocked phones, but since this phone has such a wide range of frequency bands, I felt it was a risk worth taking.
I have been reading this forum A LOT! Since waiting for the phones to ship. I am aware the Google Services framework doesn't come standard in China, so I have read that I will need to install them manually. I'm wondering though, is it possible to download a GAPPS zip file, and flash it to make it easier? Thank you in advance.

You could always flash an international rom if you want. But with an unlocked device you kiss goodbye to FOTA... You have to install them manually. Im not from the states but I think there are a lot of ppl using it there with no problem.

I know that xda dev has never let me down, but is there a place where I can find out the latest firmware versions for the phone, and if I must flash it manually, where to download them?

just check the dev section
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I use my AL10 on T-Mobile, no problem. I will say, though, that the Chinese device firmware is going to be different than anything you have used in the US before. The extra layer of app permissions and battery saving is definitely something that takes getting used to. If you have notification issues, it isn't because of the network. Make sure the app has ALL permissions it needs (you have to hunt to allow storage) and is whitelisted in the battery saver firewall.
I switched to the international ROM.

Advice for a stable, updateable ROM for the ZUK Z2 Pro please

Good afternoon everyone. I'm a total (and I mean TOTAL) novice and haven't a clue about hardware, software or firmware, so please be kind.
I bought a ZUK Z2 Pro off Ebay. I like it. It looks nice, it's pretty fast, the battery lasts ages, it's a good size in the palm of your hand and it's got loads of storage.
However, I live in the UK and it's come with this 1.9.104 ST version of ZUI which I believe is some custom ROM installed by resellers to make it compatible for international markets. It's terrible and doesn't do half of what the phone's supposed to do. What's worse, I believe there'll never be any updates on it, so it's likely to be extreme vulnerable from a security point of view. I want to be able to customise the phone so I get the type of functionality I used to get with my OnePlus One.
I'm not interested in becoming a programmer and I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time some new ROM comes along, but I just want a ROM that's not going to crash and at least alerts me when I've missed a call (which doesn't happen with the crappy ROM I have now). I want to get an update to Nougat when that comes to the Z2, but it looks like I won't be able to do that either given I don't get any OTA update notifications.
I'll need the Play Store integrated too, of course. Any advice or recommendations for a version that I can use, is in English and will deliver some updates when I need to get them?
Thanks in advance.

boygav said:
Good afternoon everyone. I'm a total (and I mean TOTAL) novice and haven't a clue about hardware, software or firmware, so please be kind.
I bought a ZUK Z2 Pro off Ebay. I like it. It looks nice, it's pretty fast, the battery lasts ages, it's a good size in the palm of your hand and it's got loads of storage.
However, I live in the UK and it's come with this 1.9.104 ST version of ZUI which I believe is some custom ROM installed by resellers to make it compatible for international markets. It's terrible and doesn't do half of what the phone's supposed to do. What's worse, I believe there'll never be any updates on it, so it's likely to be extreme vulnerable from a security point of view. I want to be able to customise the phone so I get the type of functionality I used to get with my OnePlus One.
I'm not interested in becoming a programmer and I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time some new ROM comes along, but I just want a ROM that's not going to crash and at least alerts me when I've missed a call (which doesn't happen with the crappy ROM I have now). I want to get an update to Nougat when that comes to the Z2, but it looks like I won't be able to do that either given I don't get any OTA update notifications.
I'll need the Play Store integrated too, of course. Any advice or recommendations for a version that I can use, is in English and will deliver some updates when I need to get them?
Thanks in advance.
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Use the cm Rom from Emmaus, on zukfans.eu. It's very stable. At the moment only the vibration isn't working.

MacLaughlin said:
Use the cm Rom from Emmaus, on zukfans.eu. It's very stable. At the moment only the vibration isn't working.
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Thanks Mac - which version am I looking for?
Much obliged.

boygav said:
Thanks Mac - which version am I looking for?
Much obliged.
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The last one. Don't know the date for sure. Just hit up the forum and you will find it.

boygav said:
Thanks Mac - which version am I looking for?
Much obliged.
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This one - https://emmaus.pro/?dir=Zuk Z2 Pro/CM13

Thanks guys - this is very helpful.
One more daft question for the experts: given the review of the regular ZUK Z2 (ie: not the Pro that I've got) I've read today on Trusted Reviews, which highlighted the same problems I have, is there any real issue with installing the regular official up-to-date version of ZUI from ZUK themselves, and then selecting English as a language?
If I did so, I presume that means I won't have the Google Play Store integrated? Assuming that's the case, is there a way round it?
Thanks again, and apologies if all of this is blindingly obvious to you guys. As I say, I'm pretty much a babe in the woods about this stuff (I once tried installing Oxygen OS on my OnePlus One and failed to the extent I just threw it in a cupboard and bought a new phone).

boygav said:
Thanks guys - this is very helpful.
One more daft question for the experts: given the review of the regular ZUK Z2 (ie: not the Pro that I've got) I've read today on Trusted Reviews, which highlighted the same problems I have, is there any real issue with installing the regular official up-to-date version of ZUI from ZUK themselves, and then selecting English as a language?
If I did so, I presume that means I won't have the Google Play Store integrated? Assuming that's the case, is there a way round it?
Thanks again, and apologies if all of this is blindingly obvious to you guys. As I say, I'm pretty much a babe in the woods about this stuff (I once tried installing Oxygen OS on my OnePlus One and failed to the extent I just threw it in a cupboard and bought a new phone).
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If you want to stick to zui, you could also head to zukfans.eu, there is a global rom with multilanguage and integrated Google play services

So, since November, is there a better suggestion for a stable, updateable ROM for ZUK2 PRO?
I find it very difficult to find one that is not broken. And I don't mind minor broken stuff like vibration, but things like camera or not being able to call, that's important.
I was collaborating with the one from Edgrr000 and emmaus in https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/rom-lineageos-wip-t3551507 but it looks like it is abandoned now.

delawen said:
So, since November, is there a better suggestion for a stable, updateable ROM for ZUK2 PRO?
I find it very difficult to find one that is not broken. And I don't mind minor broken stuff like vibration, but things like camera or not being able to call, that's important.
I was collaborating with the one from Edgrr000 and emmaus in https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/rom-lineageos-wip-t3551507 but it looks like it is abandoned now.
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thank god i'm not the only one finding that a €300+ device should just work and nothing else

Feel free to use the Stock rom. Everything work as it should do.
Or use at least this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/z2-pro-miui-8-touch-drivers-support-t3520833

As the first post says, I am also a novice and dont understand terms like flashing, rooting, TWRP, Qfil etc (I know I m dumb).
I had bought a zuk z2 pro, still on its way, from a supplier who installed a multilanguage custom rom. I tried to read threads here and on the zukfans eu and honestly I m getting more confused...some say stock rom is the best, others mention cyanogenmod etc.....All I need is the english language and google play...does that mean stock rom is enough? will it update automatically to nougat 7?...and another important question...how am I going to remove the custom rom to the stock rom? would that be safe? thanks

Stock ROM is Chinese and had some English translation. A load of things are still Chinese. So far I'm happy with mokee 7.1. A good translation and almost no Chinese stuff

just got mine today with global rom and android 6.0. The gallery app crashed all the time so i flashed it with stock rom and android 7.0. the stock rom has to much chinese for me so looking for a new rom. whats the best and most stable out there at this date?

after this very good tutorial, I finally got myself out of this zuk-whatever-it-is-OS... and I love Mokee.
running MK60.1-z2pro-170403-RELEASE.zip with ease and smile, and I do not think a sec to switch back to ZUI.

tnx, think i'll do that. can't get contacts from gmail to dialer or change launcher. i'll try mokee before i downgrade the phone to a musicplayer

@boygav, i suggest zui v2.3.044 ST very smooth, stable and fully functional...just root and remove chinese apps and u r good to go... I can guidde u if u need assistance

I recommend you the Mokee 7.1.1.
Everything work great (but no u-health and u-touch).
I made a tutorial to install this ROM from the beginning
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/howto-install-mokee-7-1-1-unofficial-t3582686
ROM page :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/rom-share-lr-team-zuk-z2row-z2-pro-t3567710

Why not use easily official download site?!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2pro
Every time up2date and no need to uplaod anywhere!

When I installed my Mokee, there was no Official Mokee version.
So now you can installed the nightly one from official download. But I don't know if everything works well like the unofficial.

Nickthegr8 said:
@boygav, i suggest zui v2.3.044 ST very smooth, stable and fully functional...just root and remove chinese apps and u r good to go... I can guidde u if u need assistance
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Apologies for the delay guys. Nick - I may well take you up on your offer. The security on this ROM is pretty hopeless - I was being spammed really badly with pop-ups the other day there (and it was nothing I'd downloaded or installed either - my browsing history is pretty spotless, I like to think). Seemed the phone had just installed something overnight.
If you have an absolute idiot's guide to installing this and what the hell rooting actually involves, I'd be most grateful.
Many thanks.

Should I buy this phone?

Hi everyone!
As my ZUK Z2 got stolen, I'm currently thinking about buying this phone... But I'd like you all to tell me what the pros and cons are. Also I have this doubt: When it comes to "LeEco Le Pro3" on xda... does it include "elite version"? 'cause the one I'm thinking about is the "x722" one, which is called "LeEco Le Pro3 elite" and I do not know whether all this development belongs to sd821(x720, x725 and x727) or sd820(x722).
Thanks in advance!

The x727 and the x720 are the same phone more or less. I have the x727 and it's been a good phone. However you need to work on it - put a custom ROM for it to really be worth it. Also with Leeco's troubles I'd say a warranty isnt there despite what some sellers lead you to believe. Still it's fast good screen sounds good with stereo speakers.

I'm sorry to hear about your Z2. And there are two distinct development sections for the Pro3 in this forum. One is specifically for the x722. Scroll down.
The x720 and x727 have the Snapdragon 821 and NFC. The Elite (x722) does not, and has a Snapdragon 820. The x722 is a good phone but I often find myself needing more storage. 32 gigs simply isn't enough if you like to listen to music and game on your phone. Performance is good. There are now custom Oreo ROMs for the device.
My only issue is crappy build quality and some screen issues (just read through 2 pages of this Q&A sub-forum and you'll see what I mean) and no official kernel sources. Only the x720's kernel sources were released. We work off those, and that means buggier ROMs. If you can, get the x720 and get a variant with more than 32 gigs of storage. You'll thank me later.
It's also all too easy to brick this phone, and there's no QFIL file to revive it. I know the Z2 has a QFIL file. Well, so does the x720. But the x722 doesn't have one.
And the x720's QFIL doesn't work for the x722. So if your phone gets permabricked somehow... you're screwed forever, unless someone is able to provide us with an alternate solution. Just look at my signature and this forum's sticky.

MaikelAt said:
Hi everyone!
As my ZUK Z2 got stolen, I'm currently thinking about buying this phone... But I'd like you all to tell me what the pros and cons are. Also I have this doubt: When it comes to "LeEco Le Pro3" on xda... does it include "elite version"? 'cause the one I'm thinking about is the "x722" one, which is called "LeEco Le Pro3 elite" and I do not know whether all this development belongs to sd821(x720, x725 and x727) or sd820(x722).
Thanks in advance!
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I wanted to chime in and add to what everyone else has said.
In my opinion you should buy the X727 or the X720. I have 2 X727's and 2 X522 ( my Kids) and I absolutely love these phones, I saved so much money and bought my entire family a phone for less than I paid for just one phone is the past.
I have not seen the X722 in person. But I must say the quality of the X727 is as good as any phone you will find. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S7, it sits in a drawer and never gets used at all, not anymore.
My only complaint with the X727 was the stock software. This was resolved by upgrading to a custom Rom and there is alot to choose from 6 or 7 different versions of Nougat ( Paranoid, Omni, AICP, Revolution Remix, Lineage) and and an equal amount of fully supported roms for Oreo ( Lineage, AICP, AOSIP,Pixel Experience, as well as a few roms that you can find on other sites)
The development community is strong, full of very helpful people that will be glad to help you if you need help or have a simple question. Additionally, with the X727 and X720 you can use the outstanding Pixel ported Camera ( Not sure if it works for the X722)
I hope this helps.
PS: If you buy the phone, consider buy it on Amazon, they provide an excellent warranty and will fully reimburse you if anything goes wrong.

sk8223 said:
....And the x720's QFIL doesn't work for the x722. So if your phone gets permabricked somehow... you're screwed forever, unless someone is able to provide us with an alternate solution. Just look at my signature and this forum's sticky.
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I do not see the situation so pessimistically. BTW, I checked the hint of tsongming, the MallStop sells on Amazon the Le 3 Pro for $188 the 4/64 GB version. What a steal!
My X722 (Elite/SD820 4/32GB $200) lost its EUI 5.8.020 very quickly - what a load of crap it is!
The Lineage 15.1, albeit in "version 1.0" unlocks the power of the HW perfectly and beautifully. Even Lineage 14.1 (Nougat) is quite usable.
The stand by discharge is 0.2%/hr, fast charging with conservative 2.5 A, adjustable OS performance ... everything works for me just fine.
Exceed my expectations, alright.
Warranty? Who needs the stinky warranty? At that price, I'd toss the bricked phone and buy another one.
Le Eco has a firesale. There won't be many at that price for too long. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-leeco-letv-le-pro-3-x722

Thank you all guys... What I've seen so far is that I'd be more convenient to buy the x720 one due to its posibility of reviving by QFIL (special thanks to @sk8223 for clarifying about QFIL). I like testing new things over my phones and wouldn't like to mess it up for forever (besides the fact of losing my money)... So I think I gotta set aside more money and buy x720 version.
Thank you all for replying!!

@sk8223 bro i got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078V3LBDG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1X9S24G399N9V&psc=1
It's used but many people have told me: "used things on amazon are pretty good". I got this question: since it's the x727 model... Does the qfil from x720 work on x727 version?

MaikelAt said:
@sk8223 bro i got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078V3LBDG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1X9S24G399N9V&psc=1
It's used but many people have told me: "used things on amazon are pretty good". I got this question: since it's the x727 model... Does the qfil from x720 work on x727 version?
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Yeah, but it might cause your device to be detected as an x720. But there's a simple build prop fix for that in the x720's QFIL thread.
Also, used phones from third-party sellers on Amazon or from even U.S. retailers aren't necessarily good. There was a thread here a while back about someone who bought an x727 locally in the U.S. through Google Express and their phone ended up BSODing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/bricked-le-pro-3-727-blue-screen-death-t3760266
You always take risks when buying these types of discontinued devices.

sk8223 said:
Yeah, but it might cause your device to be detected as an x720. But there's a simple build prop fix for that in the x720's QFIL thread.
Also, used phones from third-party sellers on Amazon or from even U.S. retailers aren't necessarily good. There was a thread here a while back about someone who bought an x727 locally in the U.S. through Google Express and their phone ended up BSODing.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/bricked-le-pro-3-727-blue-screen-death-t3760266
You always take risks when buying these types of discontinued devices.
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I read it completely... I'm a little scared now. I do not want to get a BSOD... I have the option to buy the x722 version at US$159 (totally new) but i wouldn't like to brick it, I'm always testing things on phones and it's not easy for me to set aside money. I thik I'll have to take the risk.
BTW, any page to see discounts on smartphones? (skipping kimovil.com)

MaikelAt said:
I read it completely... I'm a little scared now. I do not want to get a BSOD... I have the option to buy the x722 version at US$159 (totally new) but i wouldn't like to brick it, I'm always testing things on phones and it's not easy for me to set aside money. I thik I'll have to take the risk.
BTW, any page to see discounts on smartphones? (skipping kimovil.com)
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I don't know of any discount pages. Just Google for coupons for the store you plan to buy from. I saw the x722 get discounted to $130 USD and lower with cashback. A definite buy at that price. I bought mine for that price but I now realize that the 32 gig version is simply too little for me. I can barely fit my music collection on there let alone games for emulators like PPSSPP or Android games. Only 3 gigs of storage left so I plan on selling this device now that I have a Redmi Note 4.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good phone with a way better build quality and specs than the RN4 but no headphone jack + expandable storage = massive mistake. I can get used to no headphone jack but not 32 gigs of storage... takes me back to my iPhone 5 days. I wish I could keep it but alas.
If you buy it new online you're still taking a risk, but that risk is mitigated if you pay via PayPal and record your unboxing. Make sure you test every feature possible on camera so you have proof if something goes wrong.

I would not recommend buying this the company who sell this is bad shape.
I should you give them the money if they will not back their product.
I hope they sink the rest of the way!!
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium

Situation with OTAs,any type of Betas ?

I'm in a position where I could trade in my Oneplus 6T for a 9T.I like the 9T for it's cameras,bigger battery, fingerprint and feel it would be a useful trade for me, but.
Oneplus is so good with OTAs and open betas
I would probably miss that if I moved
What's Xiaomi like for updates ?
Specifically ,are there any Beta programs
Read somewhere they've stopped global betas
So then you only have something like quarterly updates,
Is that correct ?

I'd flash the eu Version (has no bloatware) and they push weekly updates

manus31 said:
I'm in a position where I could trade in my Oneplus 6T for a 9T.I like the 9T for it's cameras,bigger battery, fingerprint and feel it would be a useful trade for me, but.
Oneplus is so good with OTAs and open betas
I would probably miss that if I moved
What's Xiaomi like for updates ?
Specifically ,are there any Beta programs
Read somewhere they've stopped global betas
So then you only have something like quarterly updates,
Is that correct ?
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China beta updates every week and xiaomi.eu debloats It and adds language support, so of you're confortable with modding (you don't lose your warranty of you unlock the bootloader) and want a taste of MIUI, you can use Xiaomi.eu beta ROM (most certainly First build Will come out tomorrow morning)

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China beta updates every week and xiaomi.eu debloats It and adds language support, so of you're confortable with modding (you don't lose your warranty of you unlock the bootloader) and want a taste of MIUI, you can use Xiaomi.eu beta ROM (most certainly First build Will come out tomorrow morning)
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Seems like the best option alrite,been hearing good things about them,little bit more effort though but worth considering.

manus31 said:
Seems like the best option alrite,been hearing good things about them,little bit more effort though but worth considering.
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Yes, unfortunely this Is the worst thing about Xiaomi, software, that's One of the reasons why It Is so cheap, luckily enough there are plenty of devs willing ti build custom ROMs and patch GSI images for Xiaomi devices

there is no xeu beta rom for k20/mi9t. only stable.
and there is for k20pro/mi9t pro. i am also little disappointed , but even if xiaomi wil stop global beta program, why there are beta roms for others for example mi9se, as i metion already k20pro, why no for me 9t/k20

what happened to the development on the OnePlus 7t pro McLaren 5G?

One of my favorite parts of OnePlus was always the development supported to the devices. I've always used and flashed as many rounds as possible for whatever device I've ever had. So I went to T-Mobile and bought the OnePlus 70 pro 5G McLaren or McLaren 5G. and somehow the fact that I got a specialty phone put me in an area where I can't take advantage of any of the ROMs in development for the device.this is a time when I wish I would have developed and compiled my own ROMs I'm sure I could figure it out but we need help over here.

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One of my favorite parts of OnePlus was always the development supported to the devices. I've always used and flashed as many rounds as possible for whatever device I've ever had. So I went to T-Mobile and bought the OnePlus 70 pro 5G McLaren or McLaren 5G. and somehow the fact that I got a specialty phone put me in an area where I can't take advantage of any of the ROMs in development for the device.this is a time when I wish I would have developed and compiled my own ROMs I'm sure I could figure it out but we need help over here.
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That is why I am thinking of eBay'ing mine and getting a non-carrier 8 Pro - IF it has the proper setup of frequencies for US Tmo, as it appears it does. This should make rooting, updates and development to be much easier

Yeah thats an idea I haven't thought of. I was actually looking into buying a 7t. There's at least an international unlocking method for it.

What happened with this device? I dont understand why there is 0 rom's. If it is the 5G, I would think that is not an issue. I am sure most people would dump 5G for Custom Rom's. I am not sure where to start to figure this out. Lineage OS supports the other variants of this device.

I think the HD1925 just wasn't a big seller, maybe to be expected as an early adopter 5g phone, specific to USA and T-Mobile, that has already been eclipsed. It was a modification of an existing phone that was reasonably successful, but it's different enough that ROMs for the other variants don't work.
I would not expect much future development, if you like Oxygen and stock ROM then it will be fine, rooting and Magisk are possible and can give you a lot of options for customizing. If true custom ROMs like LineageOS are important to you, I'd probably get something else.

It would be nice to at least get TWRP for this thing. I am going to be getting rid of mine and trying to find another phone that doesn't stifle development. Sad because I really do like the phone.

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It would be nice to at least get TWRP for this thing. I am going to be getting rid of mine and trying to find another phone that doesn't stifle development. Sad because I really do like the phone.
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I'm trying to get a 8 Pro for that reason, but OnePlus is driving me and many others nuts. Then this one will be on eBay - but only after the 8 is setup.

TWRP is nowhere near ready for all newer devices that shipped with Android 10. Probably later in 2020.

And to make matters worst, we will not be able to take full advantage of 5G due to a lack of support for some of the freq's.

Supposedly we should see band 41 via an update eventually so really the only bands missing from the 5g McLaren are mmwave which are useless outside of a stadium or metropolitan area so once we get the midband update things will improve speed and signalwise...

i ordered a demo mode mclaren today. i do officials for aosip on mix 3. im gonna be looking into doing development for this phone if i can somehow hack it out of demo mode and get tmo to unlock sim/bootloader for me.
does anyone have any info for me? has anyone done any dev work thus far? do we have a telegram group for the phone?
im pretty certain i can get things going based on the hard work that ppl have already done for 7t/7pro, etc. if i can open up this phone i ordered

Constrabus said:
i ordered a demo mode mclaren today. i do officials for aosip on mix 3. im gonna be looking into doing development for this phone if i can somehow hack it out of demo mode and get tmo to unlock sim/bootloader for me.
does anyone have any info for me? has anyone done any dev work thus far? do we have a telegram group for the phone?
im pretty certain i can get things going based on the hard work that ppl have already done for 7t/7pro, etc. if i can open up this phone i ordered
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Check out the group hotdogg dev on telegram. Some guys on there got Omni working for the TMobile mclaren it just broke 5g and fp permanently if you didn't backup persist.img.

lendawg said:
Check out the group hotdogg dev on telegram. Some guys on there got Omni working for the TMobile mclaren it just broke 5g and fp permanently if you didn't backup persist.img.
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cant find it for the life of me lol could I have the link to the chat?

Constrabus said:
cant find it for the life of me lol could I have the link to the chat?
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https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=g384100389

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https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=g384100389
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Is this normal? I've been trying to join this group to no avail..

So far I've tried.
1. resetprop persist.radio.multisim.config dsds
This enabled the second sim to show up in sim settings. It also grays out the sim1 and does not allow any changes to it.
2. Used the manifest.xml from https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/how-to/oneplus-7t-pro-mclaren-5g-dev-starts-t4028815/page8
Created a magisk module to copy this manifest.xml during boot and nothing changed in terms of sim. The build.props file did not have persist.radio.multisim.config after putting this file in.
Any updates from the telegram group? Love to see Dual Sim in action.

any new news? and will 1925 mclaren run on verizon?

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any new news? and will 1925 mclaren run on verizon?
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It should run any SIM. Is verizon on CDMA?

no they wont even activate new cdma verizon cdma=DEAD in january
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they are gsm now