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This thread has been created to assist owners of:​[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]The Moto G4[/SIZE]
There are no questions that are deemed insignificant
Helpful information for your device:
Overview of the Moto G4
Also visit the The Index Project thread with a lot off additional info​ ᴥ Please feel free to Ask Away anything about your device ᴥ​

My sister's Moto G takes way too long to charge with it's original charger. Way over 5 hours even though the device is supposed to be a fastcharge one. If she uses a standard charger from her old phone, it takes about 2.5 hours which, I think is normal considering those chargers don't support fast charge.

Yeah I'm using a Samsung fast charger which is charging from 10% to full in 50mins
Sent from my Moto G (4) using XDA-Developers mobile app

It feels too slow for me too. How do you know something is a good charger for this phone? You should look at voltages right?

Does this phone support wireless charging?

Doukeyakusha said:
Does this phone support wireless charging?
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I haven't received mine yet but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Doukeyakusha said:
Does this phone support wireless charging?
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Built-in, no. You'll most likely be able to use a 3rd party microUSB-to-Qi wireless charger receivers that can be found on Amazon for ~$12. Since the G4 lineup has a removable back plate, you might even be able to stick it inside the phone (if it doesn't fit, can just use a case).

Thanks for the responses, much appreciated

I'm excited about mine. I ordered one for my GF and I. I have the Note 5 but they are so slow with updates and I live down here in Colombia so walking around with the Note 5 isn't always the smartest. Plus all I use my phone for is work email, hangouts, whatsapp and skype. I will be getting mine next week and if for some reason I don't like it I can easily sell it down here. I think they run about $250-300 here in Colombia

Should've done some reseach, motorola is also quite slow with updates from what I've heard.

Florensie said:
Should've done some reseach, motorola is also quite slow with updates from what I've heard.
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Meaning? Model or phone. In my experience Motorola is as good as most on updates, certainly better than some companies like Samsung.

Tel864 said:
Meaning? Model or phone. In my experience Motorola is as good as most on updates, certainly better than some companies like Samsung.
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My brother's moto g (2nd gen I believe) took a couple of month before getting his marshmellow update he was promised.

Florensie said:
Should've done some reseach, motorola is also quite slow with updates from what I've heard.
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I've had motos before and they always released before Samsung. Half the time I have to flash third party to get the update before Samsung does the official release. Plus I don't need a $500 phone anymore. I can buy 4 of these Moto g from Amazon for the price I got the note 5 for.
Sent from my SM-N920C using XDA-Developers mobile app

My note 5 was about 4-5 behind in get MM. Looks like most Moto phones got the release in Feb which is only 2 months behind the actual release date

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I've had motos before and they always released before Samsung. Half the time I have to flash third party to get the update before Samsung does the official release. Plus I don't need a $500 phone anymore. I can buy 4 of these Moto g from Amazon for the price I got the note 5 for.
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I've previously had Samsung, LG, Moto and Huawei and the Moto's were the best on updating. Samsung was probably the worst but that was probably because they don't push out updates directly and instead let the providers do it. LG and Huawei, seem to make every phone end of life as soon as they release it.

spotify issues?
i'm about to pull the trigger on this but have had issues on my current phone using spotify and an sd card.
can someone confirm that there are no issues saving offline music to an sd card?

Does anybody have "burn-in" problems on the screen? I know it's LCD but the icons on the notification bar burn-in extremely fast. The problem goes away 100% overnight, but what bothers me is how ridiculously fast the burn in occurs. Could my screen be defective?
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Terrible gaming performance (Pokemon Go, Hearthstone)
I am experiencing terrible frame rates in the only two games I play on my device, Hearthstone and Pokemon Go. Review videos showed the phone playing 3D games with ease, yet I seem to be having trouble . Is anyone else having issues? I can barely navigate the menus of Pokemon the framerate is so bad.

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Does anybody have "burn-in" problems on the screen? I know it's LCD but the icons on the notification bar burn-in extremely fast. The problem goes away 100% overnight, but what bothers me is how ridiculously fast the burn in occurs. Could my screen be defective?
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
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I've only had mine a couple of days, but I haven't seen that so far.

One question. Does G4 have any restriction in Wifi tethering? The reason I asked is I got burned last time I got a Nexus 6P from Google and it does not allow Wifi tethering unless carrier's plan allows it.
Thanks,
Lyre

Well it was a great ride

I just got the s7 edge. Had my droid turbo for almost 2 years. My 2 complaints was the battery, why on earth a beautiful 3900 mah battery didnt last longer? Also the lack of updates, there is no reason on why stagefright was not patched yet. Marshmellow? I dont believe it. At lease the s7 edge will get updates. By the way, if your not like me and cant wait. the best phone will be the lg v20. I just couldnt wait any longer but was a hell of a ride!

Good luck brother, glad to have you while it lasted. I feel your frustration with the battery. Definitely should of added better battery management but oh well I guess. Enjoy the new phone! I'm actually going to keep mine for literally as long as it lasts. Going to replace the battery soon and see if I can squeeze another year out of it or so. I really want the Moto z droid force though. But none of the arrangements except the extra battery.

Rather ironic that you complain about the battery going bad, and you purchased an S7! Certainly hoping it is a fixed one.

Einsteindks said:
Rather ironic that you complain about the battery going bad, and you purchased an S7! Certainly hoping it is a fixed one.
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It was the (large) Note 7 that blows up. Not the (medium) S7 Edge.
Galaxy Note 7 Battery Explosion Burns Down Jeep And Garage
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/galaxy-note-7-battery-explosion-burns-down-jeep-and-garage/
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The S7, S7 Edge, and Note 7 are the small, medium, large of the "7" series. People lumped them together that way anyway, but this year Samsung skipped the Note 6, so their Note numbering could catch up to their S series. They are numbered the same and have the same design language to all be one group, even though they are released at two different times in the year.

ChazzMatt said:
It was the (large) Note 7 that blows up. Not the (medium) S7 Edge. [emoji14]
Galaxy Note 7 Battery Explosion Burns Down Jeep And Garage
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/galaxy-note-7-battery-explosion-burns-down-jeep-and-garage/
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I humbly stand corrected, a victim of a brain fart.

ChazzMatt said:
It was the (large) Note 7 that blows up. Not the (medium) S7 Edge.
Galaxy Note 7 Battery Explosion Burns Down Jeep And Garage
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/galaxy-note-7-battery-explosion-burns-down-jeep-and-garage/
The S7, S7 Edge, and Note 7 are the small, medium, large of the "7" series. People lumped them together that way anyway, but this year Samsung skipped the Note 6, so their Note numbering could catch up to their S series. They are numbered the same and have the same design language to all be one group, even though they are released at two different times in the year.
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a 500$ smartphone completely burned a 50000$ Jeep!
I feel bad for the owner of the Jeep!

Sparksys said:
a 500$ smartphone completely burned a 50000$ Jeep!
I feel bad for the owner of the Jeep!
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It's more like a $900 smartphone

zys52712 said:
It's more like a $900 smartphone
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Whatever..you get the idea

yeah thats why I just skipped out of the note 7 lol. I dont even care if they"fix" it after the recall. With how crazy it was, I rather wait until the next note come out. I do like the s7 edge alot. I think my complaints of the turbo was settled with this phone. I did love my turbo though!

austtint said:
I just got the s7 edge. Had my droid turbo for almost 2 years. My 2 complaints was the battery, why on earth a beautiful 3900 mah battery didnt last longer? Also the lack of updates, there is no reason on why stagefright was not patched yet. Marshmellow? I dont believe it. At lease the s7 edge will get updates. By the way, if your not like me and cant wait. the best phone will be the lg v20. I just couldnt wait any longer but was a hell of a ride!
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Good 4 u dude..and what about battery in s7 edge?better than D.T?
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ghaem.xh said:
Good 4 u dude..and what about battery in s7 edge?better than D.T?
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It's 300mah less

zys52712 said:
It's 300mah less
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Tanx but not in numbers..in real usage
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ghaem.xh said:
Tanx but not in numbers..in real usage
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Look it up yourself if it's such a pressing matter

I think it is better. It is lasting all day for me. But if you dont need to upgrade right now. I highly recommend the new lg v20 when it comes out. the thing looks like a beast. I am overall happy with my s7 edge

My prediction on the OnePlus 3T Dev support

Once people get a chance to see the incredible performance and battery and compare it with the competition in terms of value, this phone will take the lead in 2017 in regards to development. If OnePlus is smart and they comp all the great devs a device for Christmas it will sell them 1000 phones for every 1 they give away!

954wrecker said:
Once people get a chance to see the incredible performance and battery and compare it with the competition in terms of value, this phone will take the lead in 2017 in regards to development. If OnePlus is smart and they comp all the great devs a device for Christmas it will sell them 1000 phones for every 1 they give away!
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Hope OnePlus is watching this thread

This is my first OnePlus phone and I'm extremely impressed. I've owned a note 3-5, S6, nexus 6 & 6p, and a few others not even worth mentioning. This is the best phone in my opinion especially dollar for dollar vs. the competition.

954wrecker said:
...If OnePlus is smart and they comp all the great devs a device for Christmas it will sell them 1000 phones for every 1 they give away!
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Yeah, I'm fully with you there and really hope the thing Oneplus announced to be up their sleeve for the devs is in this line. In hindsight it may have been wiser for Oneplus to get the OP3 devs onto the OP3T-boat before making the official switch.

Tyranus kernel by mdalexca gave me 12 hours SOT without even trying to save battery in any way. 0% drain overnight without turning anything off but the screen.
In 44 minutes charging time I was back up to 80% and that was with the screen on and using it normally. Temperature has NEVER gotten over 92° Fahrenheit in the 4 days I have had it so far.
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Tyranus kernel by mdalexca gave me 12 hours SOT without even trying to save battery in any way. 0% drain overnight without turning anything off but the screen.
In 44 minutes charging time I was back up to 80% and that was with the screen on and using it normally. Temperature has NEVER gotten over 92� Fahrenheit in the 4 days I have had it so far.
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What app are you using in the screenshot?
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ForcedZucchini said:
What app are you using in the screenshot?
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Gsam battery monitor

954wrecker said:
Tyranus kernel by mdalexca gave me 12 hours SOT without even trying to save battery in any way. 0% drain overnight without turning anything off but the screen.
In 44 minutes charging time I was back up to 80% and that was with the screen on and using it normally. Temperature has NEVER gotten over 92� Fahrenheit in the 4 days I have had it so far.
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Bloody hell! I can barely get 6 hours screen on time

OP3T is phone of the year, if OP release the sources and the dev kicks off, it's even way ahead of the Pixel.

954wrecker said:
Once people get a chance to see the incredible performance and battery and compare it with the competition in terms of value, this phone will take the lead in 2017 in regards to development. If OnePlus is smart and they comp all the great devs a device for Christmas it will sell them 1000 phones for every 1 they give away!
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it would be sweet , i hope lord boeffla get a 3t ,would love to see a good nice audio-focused kernel ,it would be the first thing ill do with it when it arrives
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+1
Very happy with it, first 3 days.
Only downfall so far is lack of roms

I'm unlocked, rooted, and have all the apps I ever need. Right now I am super happy, of course with custom roms that's a plus but as-is right now I'm pretty set.

This is an interesting phone based upon the specs and the cost. Will this be the next "Nexus" great value phone? The Pixel phones are just too damn expensive in my opinion. I have the Nexus 6p, coming from the Samsung line, and what I've liked about the Nexus, is the developer support for good quality full feature ROMS.

keep in mind, the 3T was quickly out of stock.
might happen that some devs dont have one yet.
but we are still at the beginning, it takes some time as usual.

Yep, I was looking to buy this phone for my wife and I, but it's out of stock. Hoping it'll be available sooner than 4 weeks from now. =/

they promised that it will be dev friendly and they are working to not split a dev scene, that what he said at the presentation of 3T and also at AMA. WHere is this dev friendly thing? Why roms are not compatible even if it is almost same phone?....

I rather wonder what happened to that patience thing.

I'm sad for the decision that oneplus made. I first wanted to order the Oneplus 3 but when the 3T came out I don't buy either of them. I can't choose between the better phone and the better developer supported. Oneplus should send 10 phones to developers so they can sell the phone more. Right Oneplus 3 is more than enough for everyday task but you know...

I'm like the majority of smartphone buyers, just want a great device without rooting or hacking it.
I do consider it icing on the cake to be able to though. I want the freedom to what I want with the device I purchase. Not locked down and forced to accept whatever the manufacturer AND carrier dictate.
But as is, I'm happy stock, unrooted. So far I never rooted my Nexus 6P so I'm not sure if I'll ever care enough to root/flash on my 3T.
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Good to see OnePlus starting strong with the OnePlus 3T development. @flar2 and @franciscofranco and hopefully many more devs are getting devices soon.

New tablet after a Nexus 7? Here is a worthy successor!

Lenovo Tab 4 Plus
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_4_8_plus-8603.php
It's slightly bigger than the Nexus 7, but not so much by comparison, as you can see here from a side by side:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vYDGB1BfzbWjhO9t2
Better specs, clean Android, beautiful screen and very, very well made hardware, with the additional Plus of having an SD-card slot. By now I am on my 4th Nexus 7, which I mainly use use for eBook reading and some casual gaming, but the problems with the USB slot and the easily defective memory are a nuisance and I have been on the market for an alternative for more than 3 years. The Tab 4 for me is that alternative.
I've had it for a couple of days now and while it is not wildly popular (yet), there is already TWRP available AND root through Magisk.
Finally a decent tablet with USB-C, nice hardware, very good screen time (basically sames as the Nexus 7) and an up to date Android version without significant bloatware (Except for Microsoft Office, which you can uninstall easily, since it's not a system app).
I hope to see a thriving community around this tablet; it's worth it and will please those who have been happy with their Nexus 7, but are looking for a more modern piece of hardware as a successor.

Lucky me I am still on the first one from day one ?
Just have to charge wireless since 6 month. Bud there is no factory Image coming so as long as custums are coming I am good to go. But the Lenovo looks promising

nvidia shield tablet....best

So this runs stock Android? If so, may be my next tablet.
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max_n2f said:
nvidia shield tablet....best
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its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?

gfunkzero said:
its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?
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I think 2gb is enough for games

AGREED!!!
When i first saw this, i thought, this is the only upgrade to my 4 year old nexus 7....but sadly lenovo did not launch the 4/64 version in India....i don't know what to buy now..iPad looks like the only choice

I'd suggest the Huawei T2 7.0 Pro. I have both it and the Nexus 7. The Huawei is lighter, smaller, better battery, slightly better CPU/GPU, Micro SD slot, fingerprint sensor.
Oh and it can take a micro sim and be used as a cell phone.
The only negatives:
Only works on 2.4ghz wifi
Android 5.01 only currently
No NFC
No wireless charging
Otherwise it is a worthy successor. There are tons of 8" tablets available but for sheer portability (and why the nexus 7 was so popular in the first place), the T2 is a viable option.
Huawei also had the Media Pad X2 7.0 which has far superior hardware but I have been unable to find one to purchase anywhere.
I also used the Nexus 7 primarily as an E-Reader (I have had it with junk E-Ink devices, kobo and kindle are garbage)
but my Nexus 7 has a stuck reboot loop issue if it powers down.
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Not only that, it's also got Micro-USB, not USB-C. Deal breaker.
Same goes for the Huawei, Micro USB.
The Lenovo is also availble in an LTE version. I don't need that, got a nice phone with an international contract as hotspot, so no more additional contracts for me, WiFi does the job for me.

The Lenovo does look like a solid device. For me the size though is a no go. Plus I have not seen it for sale anywhere in Canada. No clue what the supposed release date is.

What about superfish?

What tablets run stock Android or very close to? I want a tablet that will get new major Android releases.
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Pretty much only the Nexus 7 is stock.
That doesn't seem to matter though. Google discontinued updates on the Nexus 7 after Android 6.0.1.

Agree, and I see no sign of them releasing a new tablet anytime soon.
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Ya, I gave up waiting. Hence the Huawei that I have been using.

I just pulled mine out of the closet to check for updates and can't believe it still has a better screen then these Xiaomi phones I keep buying.

HatchetEgg said:
What about superfish?
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I have no idea what you are talking about.

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I have no idea what you are talking about.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/02/19/superfish-need-to-know/#4dc6a76b3877

As bad as it's going to sound. I'm glad Apple is finally in the wireless charging game. Ya know they're likely to drop an iPad with it soon, and this may inspire the creation of other wireless charging tablets. It's really the only thing holding me back from replacing the Nexus 7 2013.

Mi max 2 ... Snapdragon...big battery..usb-c....not expensive
Minecraft story mode 2 is playable

Waiting Room

I ordered mine this morning around 5am PT. It showed shipped around 11:50am. Estimated delivery date is 5/9-5/10. I checked the tracking and it hasn't updated yet. I can't wait to try out this budget phone.
Did you order one on the Google Store?

Ordered after launch yesterday and received today!
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Ordered after launch yesterday and received today!
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Nice, how do you like it so far?

Didja root? Did it struggle?

mine will be here tomorrow and will hopefully be rooted a few min after it is in my hands. i already made patched boot images https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79491032&postcount=2 if anyone wants to try them, if not i will post tomorrow if they worked

I pick up mine at Bestbuy same released day! Plus a got a $100 Bestbuy gift card.....My local store have all of them in stock

Mine should be here today! I can't wait for it. I'm so excited. I haven't had a new phone in ages.

Mine's set to deliver today...

root was successful

pbanj said:
root was successful
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:good:

Got mines today. Any recommendations for a screen protector
And a good case

pbanj said:
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What about GPay? Does it work? Did you try it?

Fentadroid said:
What about GPay? Does it work? Did you try it?
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i had to mess around with it to get it to work. i was able to add both my cards after i did the steps in the picture below. but i haven't tested it in store yet.
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i had posted the steps in the 3a/xl telegram group earlier today

This is my 3rd Google phone and I was shocked by how Google managed the phone launch this time around. I got the phone just 2 days after ordering it on launch day.
As for the Pixel 3a, I'm loving it so far for its size, weight, easy one-hand use, battery life, lean software, and great camera.
I still like my Samsung S10+ better though.
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optimummind said:
This is my 3rd Google phone and I was shocked by how Google managed the phone launch this time around. I got the phone just 2 days after ordering it on launch day.
As for the Pixel 3a, I'm loving it so far for its size, weight, easy one-hand use, battery life, lean software, and great camera.
I still like my Samsung S10+ better though.
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Aha! Someone with both S10+ and Pixel 3a! Do you intend to keep both?
I am still on original Moto X (How do you know your phone is old? When Chrome browser says it will no longer be updated for this OS version. Happened a couple months ago.) I was really looking forward to get S10e but decided to wait to see if there are any problems. I am really glad I did! Problems with LTE connectivity (as in lack of) mostly on Sprint (70 pages long thread on Samsung forum and similar on Sprint), overheating, Bluetooth issues, proximity sensor not working right and keeps phone up in the pocket. Have you experienced any of those on your S10+?
I looked at Pixel 3 and it was not much better (call quality issues, BT issues, flickering display). Decided to wait for Pixel 3a.
I am just really frustrated that I have pay a lot of money and deal with issues. My 5 year old phone doesn't have any except, well, being old.

EE Uk locked down my pixel 3a lol, tossers.

Battery life is pretty good

pbanj said:
Battery life is pretty good
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Can you describe your usage with the phone ?
I'm really impressed by your comment ?

totib38 said:
Can you describe your usage with the phone ?
I'm really impressed by your comment ?
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Sure
Bunch of discord, checking xda, emails, some music using a bt headset. Brightness kind of all over the place depending on the areas lighting, played a few games, some YouTube, some Reddit, some imgur, browsing the play store, browsing fdroid, telegram. I've attached what I consider to be the final s.o.t for the phone as I'm going to plug it in now. I did notice the battery stats are missing a bunch of apps that ran, so not sure what's up with that.

It's Nice
I have a Samsung S9 as my daily phone. Google delivered the Pixel 3a is two business days, which was quick.
I bought the Google fabric case for the phone. But even without the case the 3a is the first phone I've held in a couple of years which felt "secure". Put another way, every time I handle my Samsung S9 without it's case I am scared I'll drop it, because of the extraordinarily slippery glass. The Pixel 3a feels like I won't drop it. I'm not even sure careful people need a case.
One last thing: Some of the reviews say the phone feels cheap because it's plastic and not aluminum and glass, With a case on the 3a phone no one can tell what the case is made of, or if the rear of the phone is fancy glass. I much prefer a robust phone. Because, you know, when it's all said and done, if you shatter your S9 screen, what you have is $1000 of junk.
So I'm liking this Pixel so far... . And bonus points: It has a headphone jack again! YES!!