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I would like to replace the head unit in my Toyota Camry LE 2007 with a Android one. I am currently looking into Joying & Ownice models. In the Joyice thread, there were complaints about the bluetooth audio being very bad. Does Ownice units have this problem? I apologize for creating a new thread, but the Ownice thread has become too big.
Just so people coming across this thread won't get a bad idea, I am posting this. Looks like Joying's BT is only an issue when you are on phone with somebody.
1) Bluetooth audio quality streaming music from my phone, or from phone calls, to the head unit = excellent. Works like a charm.
2) Bluetooth audio quality that the PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PHONE hear, not so good. It is better since doing the mic mod detailed in this thread, but the road noise and echo that the caller on the other end hears is not good. It honestly doesn't bother me much, since I don't have to hear it, but they constantly are asking me if my window is down. This could potentially be from:
A) Needing a better microphone
B) Needing a better microphone jack
C) Needing a better head unit
Either way, I don't hear it and I don't talk to people that much while driving, so not a big deal to me.
If number 1 above is your problem, try updating your MCU or trying a new rom. There might also be some volume settings to play with in Factory Settings code "126". If none of that works, contact joying for a replacement.
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Ownice units have different problems like reboots and app data loss.
I own an Ownice C200 v3 (they produce the C200 units for Navall to) and overall i am satisfied, good radio receiver from NXP, especially about the bluetooth 3.0, which is clear on both sides, good audio sound...
The only sad thing are those reboots and app loses, although it is much less with the latest updates. They working on those problems but the progress is slow.
unni_kmr said:
I would like to replace the head unit in my Toyota Camry LE 2007 with a Android one. I am currently looking into Joying & Ownice models. In the Joyice thread, there were complaints about the bluetooth audio being very bad. Does Ownice units have this problem? I apologize for creating a new thread, but the Ownice thread has become too big.
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I'm looking on the same models but Ownice is proposing 2 GB Ram so I guess it should be better than 1 Gb.
What did you choose?
I purchased a new Joying head unit 30 days ago and the mic really sucks bad even after mod's, this is a major deal breaker for me. I am about to order another unit (Ownice 8" model OL-7606) but thought I would ask you great folks first. Here is my set up and must have's out of the box: what unit would be best for me is the question.....
2010 VW Jetta
5 Channel Amp
Steering wheel controls (12 Button)
Back up camera
Must have's
Bluetooth Networking with phone (for the following)
Good clear Ext. Mic ( I live in my car on the phone with customers daily)
Phone
Calendar
Mail
Contacts
TomTom or Garmin (USA)
Then the rest we can work through
stranded android stuff
Thank You Everyone
SteveOOO
PS Joying unit up for sale mic mods done but major echo going on with a low buzzing nose or it becomes baseball practice on utube and sent to joying on what my thoughts are of there units....
stevewabc1 said:
I purchased a new Joying head unit 30 days ago and the mic really sucks bad even after mod's, this is a major deal breaker for me. I am about to order another unit (Ownice 8" model OL-7606) but thought I would ask you great folks first. Here is my set up and must have's out of the box: what unit would be best for me is the question.....
2010 VW Jetta
5 Channel Amp
Steering wheel controls (12 Button)
Back up camera
Must have's
Bluetooth Networking with phone (for the following)
Good clear Ext. Mic ( I live in my car on the phone with customers daily)
Phone
Calendar
Mail
Contacts
TomTom or Garmin (USA)
Then the rest we can work through
stranded android stuff
Thank You Everyone
SteveOOO
PS Joying unit up for sale mic mods done but major echo going on with a low buzzing nose or it becomes baseball practice on utube and sent to joying on what my thoughts are of there units....
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WOW No one wants to through their input into this?
I'm in a similar position trying to find a cheap android hu with decent bluetooth. I was looking at an eonon, but found these avinusa units which supposedly have parrot bluetooth - https://avinusa.com/7-universal-dou...android-multimedia-navigation-system-159.html
I own a parrot asteroid smart and it has been a great unit but the software and hardware is dated now. The bluetooth handsfree and voice command are awesome though so I'm very interested in how these avinusa units are. If you do get one I'd love to hear your feedback on it or any other unit you get.
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I previously had a carjoying and had the same bs. horrible bt call quality even after mods.
I have a AN-21U 2nd gen unit now, built specifically for my car and BT quality is excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...nd-generation-4-4-2-android-21u-ouku-t3230587
It does have some quirks about the way the unit handles BT (treats BT as separate device from unit instead of part of the unit), but it's still really good and a huge improvement over carjoying.
Hi guys..
Well first of all how I wish I'd checked these forums first before buying as I wouldn't have, second I wish I'd at least bought from the UK as I'd get some support. But hey ho I didn't and I'm stuck with it as returning to china seems to risky after the message suggested returning at a value of $70 so they don't get taxed and also making sure its sent by EMs so it doesn't get lost in transit like many units do at customs!!
So I bought what seemed to be an all singing all dancing unit from seicane store on ali express, for my seat ibiza mk5. According to the system info via root check app it's a px3, 7.1.2 android, rock chip, rk30sdk.
Amongst many other problems my main one is the Bluetooth audio quality over A2DP is horrendous, and it's not an amp problem as over aux or USB it's perfect. I've been looking at airplay using air bubble app and personal hotspot but it's too long to load and unstable I only drive 15 min to work so just want fast music to my ears! I've considered getting a Bluetooth transmitter and sticking it in the aux input but not ideal.
Anyone got suggestions as to what the issue may be and if it can be resolved?
Thanks in advance hope I can get this stable one day!
mine is also horrendous, and I also have a very short drive. Connecting a hotspot and launching app and getting a song, takes just too long for me. I'm basically already at my destination by the time I get it up. My workaround was to do what you said, and get a bluetooth transmitter and sticking to the aux, because aux sounds fine, but just bluetooth over a2dp sounds so bad, and has this distorted high end sound. This solution worked for me for awhile, but the only downside is you don't get song information on the head unit to display, which is a tad annoying for me.
I've contacted my radios reseller, and they're just ridiculously helpless, all they do is keep sending me a "software" update to fix it, but it does nothing. I've been searching for over a year for a solution, but have found nothing to fix it, other than what I just said. Problem was still there even when I used custom roms. SO I don't really think its a software issue, maybe some kind of hardware I can replace or modify, but I just really have no clue.
davidgotmilk said:
mine is also horrendous, and I also have a very short drive. Connecting a hotspot and launching app and getting a song, takes just too long for me. I'm basically already at my destination by the time I get it up. My workaround was to do what you said, and get a bluetooth transmitter and sticking to the aux, because aux sounds fine, but just bluetooth over a2dp sounds so bad, and has this distorted high end sound. This solution worked for me for awhile, but the only downside is you don't get song information on the head unit to display, which is a tad annoying for me.
I've contacted my radios reseller, and they're just ridiculously helpless, all they do is keep sending me a "software" update to fix it, but it does nothing. I've been searching for over a year for a solution, but have found nothing to fix it, other than what I just said. Problem was still there even when I used custom roms. SO I don't really think its a software issue, maybe some kind of hardware I can replace or modify, but I just really have no clue.
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Yeh I've ruled out airplay as an option,
you've got me interested though as you're in a similar boat as me so hopefully can help, do you have the exact same unit for an ibiza or?
And yes thats exactly whats annoying me not getting track info, may as well just use the original head unit if i get a bluetooth transmitter!! which transmitter did you get? i've got a really cheap basic one years old and its got a high pitched whining noise in between song skips so its there just muffled out by songs playing, I'm wondering if thats probably just a cheap receiver I've got..
I'll try get somewhere with the hardware see about a new bluetooth module but no idea on the interface would be total guess work and risky at that, not even sure how to safely root this one.
Other issues i'm having which may be common and you may know? I got a dash cam which cam with a yellow RCA, an Acc+ wire, a ground wire and a 12V wire.. i don't understand why its got an Acc+ and a 12V, i thought similar things both transmit power just one off the ignition being on only? theres no 12v out wire on the head unit except 'cam pow' which I've tried to no avail. I plan on recording direct to the SD card on the camera.
Subwoofer out, does this work on our units? i bought it because i plan adding a 4 channel amp for F/R speaks and a sub amp for a single sub.. but does the rca not work / no amplifier control over it?!
Cheers hope to get somewhere with this as i feel a bit down that its not all singing all dancing like i expected lol.
i have a Seicane with Android 6.0 already, which I dont really have any problems with, but it is not PX3
however, I do have a Seicane with Android 7.1 on the way that does have a PX3. I'll report back when i get it to see if I have any issues
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i have a Seicane with Android 6.0 already, which I dont really have any problems with, but it is not PX3
however, I do have a Seicane with Android 7.1 on the way that does have a PX3. I'll report back when i get it to see if I have any issues
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your bluetooth quality is as good as aux? i wonder if its a software bug..
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your bluetooth quality is as good as aux? i wonder if its a software bug..
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Well the 6.0 version is totally different hardware
it is a known issue that no one seems to have a fix for. Im having this same issues with my PX5 Dasaita unit and had this issue on a previous Xtrons unit aswell. I believe it is a problem with the bluetooth drives not supporting the higher bitpools of recent bluetooth updates hence the bad quality. Ive even tried installing a USB bluetooth dongle but could not get the unit to recognize it.
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it is a known issue that no one seems to have a fix for. Im having this same issues with my PX5 Dasaita unit and had this issue on a previous Xtrons unit aswell. I believe it is a problem with the bluetooth drives not supporting the higher bitpools of recent bluetooth updates hence the bad quality. Ive even tried installing a USB bluetooth dongle but could not get the unit to recognize it.
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Well I also have a Dasaita PX5 and I definitely didn't have a problem on that one. I would listen to Bluetooth audio on it pretty regularly.
Quick from Hot Audio did email me and ask about it, saying they had heard complaints, and sent me a new harness, but I haven't needed it
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Well I also have a Dasaita PX5 and I definitely didn't have a problem on that one. I would listen to Bluetooth audio on it pretty regularly.
Quick from Hot Audio did email me and ask about it, saying they had heard complaints, and sent me a new harness, but I haven't needed it
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What email did you contact for hot audio? I have reported the issue but they have made no mentions of a different harness. Thanks
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What email did you contact for hot audio? I have reported the issue but they have made no mentions of a different harness. Thanks
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Just the default contact
[email protected]
Well i've gone an ordered a car play dongle, so hopefully that will be a solution for good radio and a more functional nav at the same time.
Any tips for the dash cam guys? i ordered the 3 cable power one rather than a usb to keep the slots free.. not sure where i should hook them up to. (12V yellow, Acc+ red, black Grnd), i've only got an acc+ on the back of the harness and ground i made an earth wire to the car. Left the 12v off and it doesn't turn on. but my unit doesn't have a 12v, only acc+ or cam pow.
Got a pic or link to the camera you got?
So i have this camera..
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/140...32812106756.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.MXwOS4
and this unit..
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Aft...32827061575.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.MXwOS4
The seller said to connect acc+ to acc+ on the unit, 12v to the cars 12v and grnd to the cars ground. I made an earth for the ground just to a screw towards the rear inside of the dash, but not sure where i'll safely take 12v from? especially with the car having a can bus if i splice any wires that may cause an error? Surely these units put out a 12v signal somewhere?
heres the wiring diagrams... https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1z7DmnMn.PuJjSZFk763_lpXaZ.png
Also another Q regarding using an external amplifier for speakers and a sub.. is there an issue with the actual volume sent to the amps and can this be resolved? depending what input i give the head unit the volume differs, aux a lot quieter than usb stick or bluetooth.. but even both of them at volume 30 neither are really very loud where you here the speakers distorting, with a standard radio or branded head unit towards top end the speakers would distort so i can set a 'safe' max limit, my concern is the android head unit will limit the amp? and i've seen no info on rooting these units for viper4audio if that would help.
Thanks
Edit: how would i check if the 'cam-pow' wire is putting out 12v with a multimeter? just hold one probe to the wire and touch a ground point with the other?
BT & USB Support on PX5
Guys,
Sorry to tell you, the ROMS are very stripped down and as a result, the only support will be for the listing of BT modules that are on the main board and only for the ones list in the setup. You will not be able to add an external usb BT module to the head unit, it will not reconize them, and therefor will not work. Same with other USB devices. All support has been stripped out of the firmware. Some of these company's are getting slick enough to modify the firmware even more to only support devices that they sell, locking you into buying there junk. Good Luck! I had a BT problem with a Seicane Head Unit, and tried every possible, BT usb module only to find out what they do. Anyone want to purchase BT usb modules cheap!!!!!!
Seicane PX5:
CPU: 8 core 64-bit CPU Coretex-A53 @ 1.5G
Memory: 3891
Kernel Version: 4.4.93+ [email protected] #263 Wed May 9 09:36:56 CST 2018
Build Number: px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 end.hct.20180515.095719 test-keys
MCU Version: MTCE_KLD_V2.80_1 Mar 1 2018 16:54:22
Model: px5(800x480)
Android version: 8.0.0
Android security patch level: October 5, 2017
Hey Guys,
i have my head unit now for about 3 Months and i costumized everything i could including the Factory settings!
I have some problems where i cant google a solution or couldnt find one by myself:
First and the biggest for me:
The Bluetooth CallApp sucks - i can't sort by first name - its only sorted by last name
Is there maybe a ther app i can install?
Second Problem:
I cant finde or activate the Developer Options - tried every app on the playstore! not working
- a less big problem - i would love to get it done - but i dont see a chance someone can help me with that...
In the Factorysettings under the Tab Canbus ill have 2 Options that kinda work for me.
78_Jeep
and 48_Jeep
on the 78 Setting, i have all the Settings for my car in the Menue (light, brake etc) but with this setting my steering wheel app dosnt work. it only has a few "preset options"
(Yes i changed the Steering Wheel Canbus Type)
With the 48_Jeep Seetings the Steering Wheel app functions perfectly and i like how i can costuomize it, but the "Settings" app is gone - and my rearcamera curve strings are gone
So is there a way to use the 78_Jeep canbus type but for the steering wheel the 48 settings?
i appriciate every help and if someone needs more details - i will provice everything!
no one? This section of xda even alive?
EGOiST1991 said:
no one? This section of xda even alive?
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Yes, this section is very alive.
You do not mention which kind of unit you have, which android version, etc, etc. That is like mentioning "my computer doesn't work anymore. Help".
If you have an MTC unit you might have luck in the MTC threads. There are multiple custom roms also having bluetooth mods, but BT mods are really hardware and MCU dependent. There is no such thing as a good BT app.
Developer options: On some units the settings app has been recompiled removing quite some options like developer options or bluetooth settings.
Jeep canbus settings: You can only hope for a Jeep owner to react. Besides: there are so many units. Mentioning the 78 or 48 jeep version might be specific for one type unit that nobody has.
Everything you mention is not on my units.
surfer63 said:
Yes, this section is very alive.
You do not mention which kind of unit you have, which android version, etc, etc. That is like mentioning "my computer doesn't work anymore. Help".
If you have an MTC unit you might have luck in the MTC threads. There are multiple custom roms also having bluetooth mods, but BT mods are really hardware and MCU dependent. There is no such thing as a good BT app.
Developer options: On some units the settings app has been recompiled removing quite some options like developer options or bluetooth settings.
Jeep canbus settings: You can only hope for a Jeep owner to react. Besides: there are so many units. Mentioning the 78 or 48 jeep version might be specific for one type unit that nobody has.
Everything you mention is not on my units.
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I am Sorry - you are total right! I will provide the Info today! My bad!!
Attached the infos i promised.
Can you help me out mate? At least with the developer options?
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Can you help me out mate? At least with the developer options?
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You have an MTCE unit. The experts on those units are in the MTC sub-forum, not in this sub-forum.
@ikerg, @typos1 and @marchnz are the MTCE experts. If any, they can help you. ( there are more, sorry if I can't name them from the top of my head, but these 3 also regularly "visit" this subforum)
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Attached the infos i promised.
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Hello sir!
I too have a Jeep Renegade (2015 though) and am currently ironing out the kinks of my new radio.
My unit is a Dasaita HA-5288-v940 , PX5 w/ Android 9.0 and I have to use the same canbus settings
as you to acquire steering wheel control.
One thing that did help me with my steering wheel keys was using the settings built into the FCC Launcher.
There was an option to switch the steering wheels keys from like 'SW'? to CANBUS. Selecting CANBUS allowed
me to map my keys correctly. I left my canbus vehicle selection to the same one as in your picture (Simple).
Note: you can verify if this is the maker of your canbus by taking a peek at the decoder.. it will be made by
'Simple' or 'High' etc..
FCC is the first 'headunit specific' launcher I've tried.. but playing around with it
resolved a few jeep specific issues. Eventually I'll throw Nova Launcher on the thing when everything is working.
I am currently trying to figure out why I can't hear call audio, but can hear ad2p without issue...
My BT module appears to be a GOC-MD-705D and has to use the WQBC6 module (from what ive tested).
Callers can hear me, but I can't hear anything My harness wiring is labeled for a 'CHEROKEE', but I've
confirmed with Dasaita that I appear to have the right harness. Their support from their official ebay
store have been really helpful. I'm super hoping to resolve the lingering issues I have.
I have spoken with Dasaita support about my issues and through the conversation I have been told
that developer options has pretty much been removed. =/ I was hoping to see what bluetooth codec
was in use and see if me matching it on my mobile would resolve the audio issues...
By all means if you've resolved any issues Jeep specific send me a message??
I've had my unit for maybe 1-2 weeks now and seem to be making things a 'little' easier with every change.
I'm going to look into Viper4Android to help with some audio improvement and hoping to find a better
'bluetooth dialer' application that is better than the factory installed one.. I am totally new to the head unit
world, but trying to learn as much as I can.
I'll try and remember any specific Renegade tweaks that have improved things for me and send you a message?
I can't tell you how relieving it is to find another Jeep Renegade owner who gave U-Connect the boot..
@broach4313 I know it’s only simple but for the Bluetooth audio that you can’t hear have you tried making a call and then when the call has been answered then increasing the volume? It is a separate volume for a Bluetooth call and I had the same problem a few week back, then I remembered I turned the volume down for some reason when I was playing around with it.
@broach4313 I know it’s only simple but for the Bluetooth audio that you can’t hear have you tried making a call and then when the call has been answered then increasing the volume? It is a separate volume for a Bluetooth call and I had the same problem a few week back, then I remembered I turned the volume down for some reason when I was playing around with it.
This worked for me : factory settings, type code ADBON and press enter/complete. Developer options menu then appeared. (PX5, 4gb, Android Pie)
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@broach4313 I know it’s only simple but for the Bluetooth audio that you can’t hear have you tried making a call and then when the call has been answered then increasing the volume? It is a separate volume for a Bluetooth call and I had the same problem a few week back, then I remembered I turned the volume down for some reason when I was playing around with it.
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From what I see the volume is up. I can hear music via bluetooth when its played over a2dp. I appreciate the help though!
I just updated to the most recent firmware for the unit. Not change though.
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From what I see the volume is up. I can hear music via bluetooth when its played over a2dp. I appreciate the help though!
I just updated to the most recent firmware for the unit. Not change though.
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The volume on a2dp music and on Bluetooth calls are 2 different things.
Try making a call in the car when your Bluetooth is connected to the unit, then when the call is answered then increase the volume on the unit. You might find the volume is currently on 0.
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The volume on a2dp music and on Bluetooth calls are 2 different things.
Try making a call in the car when your Bluetooth is connected to the unit, then when the call is answered then increase the volume on the unit. You might find the volume is currently on 0.
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Nope, volume is up. I generally only see a single volume meter (sort of goes for everything?) unless I go into the
canbus settings and then i see notifications, voice, bt etc... everything is up.
Just this one huge problem solved and I'll be happy thinking about rooting the unit to gain more control, but
not sure if this is a software issue or maybe wiring related to the harness. I'm out of ideas. :|
Hello,
I am new here, as wel as new to headunits or tech in general.
I purchased a junsun V1 pro 2+32 gb (and 4g) head unit from AliExpress. I also purchased the dashcam that would work with it etc.
The instal worked, everything is connected (took way to long. Plug and play my ass)
But now i am wondering if it would be possible to adjust the firmware? Make it look more attractive? Or Maybe even ad the coyote app to it ?
Any advice is welcome but keep it simple. Im not tech savy
install Agama launcher to it.
Hey all, I need help with my junsun v1 pro 4gb +64gb-mtk8259- I just had it installed and everything works except Bluetooth. I can make calls from unit and or my cell phone. Apparently the people I call can hear me but I can't hear them. On occasion as it dialing I hear the ringing for a second then it cuts out. Is this a hardware issue, install issue, or something I need to change in secret menu?? I've reached out to junsun with no luck. I fixed the issue with the swc thanks to this forum!! Hoping someone can help me. Car is chrysler 300c and phone is samsung galaxy note 20.
Issue fixed. In my car the speaker inputs were reversed that's why I wasn't hearing anyone when calling. Thanks for everyone's help. Loving this unit now that it all works!!