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Please help! Klyde head unit in 2013 Hyundai sonata can't get the sound working

Hello
I've searched and tried plenty, and maybe this was covered but I can't find anything..
I recently bought a Klyde unit for my 2013 Hyundai sonata with dimension stereo and stock amplifier..
The wiring seemed simple enough, but I cannot get any sound through my speakers.
I did quite a bit of troubleshooting and even got a replacement canbus decoder from the seller but still nothing..
Is there a simple solution that someone else knows or should I just return the thing and get a different one..
Thanks a million I'm stumped
Edit: the rca cables have sound coming out but I'm trying to keep the stock amplifier and speakers..
The spdif signal going to the canbus "amp controller" box gets 12v power, I get about 200 to 250mv signal into it but 10mv going out to the car's harness
Is there a way to "enable" the amp controller like the Metra boxes?
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Anyone?
I have more pics if it helps
Thanks again

Bought a Metra amp interface and now it works

I am wondering if this might be how to solve my problem. This is the post I made on the large android head unit thread, do you think this metra amp interface would solve this for my lancer also?
if so which did you get and where, I think you have the same head unit I have.
"I just received my unit thursday I had it installed friday, but it was not giving any audio signal and the amp wasn't being turned on. They tried to manually turn on the amp, but there was still no audio coming through.
so I am wondering if there is anything I can do to troubleshoot it myself while waiting for a reply from the seller. There is a few notable things that might be the problem but I figured I would ask here to check before I start.
First there is a red wire that looks like it was cut right near the canbus unit it came this way out of the box, the installer said it had power to it, I am wondering if it's supposed to be cut or if reconnecting it could help, also there is a blue wire on the harness that is not connected into the harness also. will attach pictures. (or not because I am not allowed hopefully you can figure out how to see them below...)
red wire ------- pasteboard dot co/MO1wkXJ.jpg
blue wire ------- pasteboard dot co/MO6kqKs.jpg
back of unit ---- pasteboard dot co/MO9x1eI.jpg"

So what Metra Interface Kit...
I know this is an old thread but I have a 2014 Sonata Limited w/ Dimension Amp and android head unit doesn't output audio either with the Amp controller box or spdif box. I believe these boxes that came with it are not working properly. Please inform me of what kit I need to purchase.

Seeing reports...
I'm seeing reports the the hybl-04 is the Metra kit that you have ended up using. Is this correct?

Working Android Head Unit combo with USB DAC

Hi there,
I'm still in my internal debate of doing a tablet car install (like Galaxy Tab S2 8 inch) or getting an Android Headunit to avoid all the install struggles.
So I have been looking around on different forums for quite a while to find a REALLY working combo with an Android Head unit on Android 8.0 and a USB DAC. I would prefer an optical out DAC. Have you any positive experiences and suggestions of both models that would fit ?
I'm planning on getting a Sabre ES9010 based DAC or a Sabre ES9010K2M.
Anyone got it working with an head unit ?
By the way, I'm aware of the issues with the volume with the radio and bluetooth. I will be using a MiniDSP 6x8 with it in a MK5 golf.

i work with joying headunit + with sabre u2 dac.
the volume little loud even when i set it to one. ( i also add more step no change)
for bt call i connect a speaker to the internal amp of headunit, for me its better because my external sound processor add delay to the speakers. ( the speaker work on bt call and radio. )
if u have a physical volume is better, u can try Fain volume control v2 or Precise volume to get the volume more dynamic.

RoNeReR said:
i work with joying headunit + with sabre u2 dac.
the volume little loud even when i set it to one. ( i also add more step no change)
for bt call i connect a speaker to the internal amp of headunit, for me its better because my external sound processor add delay to the speakers. ( the speaker work on bt call and radio. )
if u have a physical volume is better, u can try Fain volume control v2 or Precise volume to get the volume more dynamic.
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You need an Intel based joying unit. They are still being sold. Works!

Thanks for your answers. So I guess any Sabre DAC world work ! Good news.
RoNeReR said:
i work with joying headunit + with sabre u2 dac.
the volume little loud even when i set it to one. ( i also add more step no change)
for bt call i connect a speaker to the internal amp of headunit, for me its better because my external sound processor add delay to the speakers. ( the speaker work on bt call and radio. )
if u have a physical volume is better, u can try Fain volume control v2 or Precise volume to get the volume more dynamic.
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I guess I can connect both RCA out from HU to DSP swell as the Optical out. It should be quite easy to switch from one input to another and remove the delay compensation probably.
What specific model are you using from joying ?
gtxaspec said:
You need an Intel based joying unit. They are still being sold. Works!
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What about other models like PX5 that contains 4GB RAM and such ? Sabre DAC are not supposed to work on ARM as well ?

Hypnox99 said:
Thanks for your answers. So I guess any Sabre DAC world work ! Good news.
I guess I can connect both RCA out from HU to DSP swell as the Optical out. It should be quite easy to switch from one input to another and remove the delay compensation probably.
What specific model are you using from joying ?
What about other models like PX5 that contains 4GB RAM and such ? Sabre DAC are not supposed to work on ARM as well ?
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The problem is the software on the head unit, the 4gb models are made by a different vendor. The PX 2gb units are made by the same vendor as the Intel, so we know the USB devices work well.

gtxaspec said:
The problem is the software on the head unit, the 4gb models are made by a different vendor. The PX 2gb units are made by the same vendor as the Intel, so we know the USB devices work well.
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Thank you very much for answering me. So alright, I see. But I guess the Intel units present the same following problems like : 44.1khz/16 bit playback max, no knob volume control and some applications playing only through the HU audio chip?
Because if the 44.1khz/16 bit problem is fixable as well as all of the applications can play though the USB Dac (not mentioning radio or bt audio since I don't care of thoses so much) the Android HU will get interesting...
On another note, do theses head unit run smooth for quite while and will get Android updates? I didn't see any of the Intel based shipped with Android 8.
Still in my internal debate of tablet dash install vs Android HU vs Western brands Android Auto capable stereo...
So again thanks a lot

QUOTE-Because if the 44.1khz/16 bit problem is fixable as well as all of the applications can play though the USB Dac (not mentioning radio or bt audio since I don't care of thoses so much) the Android HU will get interesting...
On another note, do theses head unit run smooth for quite while and will get Android updates? I didn't see any of the Intel based shipped with Android 8.
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Firstly I personally don't regard 44khz and 16bit audio as a "problem". It is more than adequate for reproduction in a vehicle with all the other attendant noise sources, especially with a window or sunroof open.
Head unit manufacturers are way way behind other Android tablet and 'phone manufacturers by the order of about 2 years. They are still selling and promoting Kit Kat head units. You probably won't see any Android 8 units for another couple of years, if you are very lucky you may find a Nougat unit to suit your vehicle.
Good hunting, Tony.

vidtek said:
QUOTE-Because if the 44.1khz/16 bit problem is fixable as well as all of the applications can play though the USB Dac (not mentioning radio or bt audio since I don't care of thoses so much) the Android HU will get interesting...
On another note, do theses head unit run smooth for quite while and will get Android updates? I didn't see any of the Intel based shipped with Android 8.
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Firstly I personally don't regard 44khz and 16bit audio as a "problem". It is more than adequate for reproduction in a vehicle with all the other attendant noise sources, especially with a window or sunroof open.
Head unit manufacturers are way way behind other Android tablet and 'phone manufacturers by the order of about 2 years. They are still selling and promoting Kit Kat head units. You probably won't see any Android 8 units for another couple of years, if you are very lucky you may find a Nougat unit to suit your vehicle.
Good hunting, Tony.
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Ok then, the Android version does not matters that much. Seems like Android 6 is OK. Thanks.
I have been looking around and found that some people can get the HDMI out from a PX3 7.1 HU to a box that will extract the audio and feed it as optical to a DSP. Is this advisable ? I guess the volume knob will work with it and after all it will be "as good" as a USB DAC out. I understood that the problem are the converters before the RCA out...
On a side note I was thinking about Joying Intel Sofia for vw golf, I have found some Android 6 units, but can't seem to find one with HDMI out. Only Xtrons PX3 seem to have HDMI out for the units made specifically for the vw golf.
So if I understand well, when I'm using a USB DAC, only bluetooth audio and radio will go through the RCA out ? Anything else will go through the DAC ? If using on a Sofia Intel.
I have also been looking at Android Audio to USB, something like the MiniDSP USB Streamer, any thoughts ?
Many many questions again

Hypnox99 said:
Ok then, the Android version does not matters that much. Seems like Android 6 is OK. Thanks.
I have been looking around and found that some people can get the HDMI out from a PX3 7.1 HU to a box that will extract the audio and feed it as optical to a DSP. Is this advisable ? I guess the volume knob will work with it and after all it will be "as good" as a USB DAC out. I understood that the problem are the converters before the RCA out...
On a side note I was thinking about Joying Intel Sofia for vw golf, I have found some Android 6 units, but can't seem to find one with HDMI out. Only Xtrons PX3 seem to have HDMI out for the units made specifically for the vw golf.
So if I understand well, when I'm using a USB DAC, only bluetooth audio and radio will go through the RCA out ? Anything else will go through the DAC ? If using on a Sofia Intel.
I have also been looking at Android Audio to USB, something like the MiniDSP USB Streamer, any thoughts ?
Many many questions again
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Hypnox-
I installed a Joying in mine, a VW EOS, and since doing the Heatsink/fan modification, I have been quite satisfied with it's performance. They supply all the looms and can-bus interface to suit your model car and it is the easiest plug and play install imaginable, takes 5 minutes.
I was in the same position as you, although not as fixated on the sound fidelity I was choosing between a tablet and head unit solution. I am VERY glad I chose the head unit, the finished install looks like an OEM unit and performs with very few hiccups. See the piccies of mine below. The unit I chose was a UK-JY-VM130N2D, it has a digital amplifier and 2 MicroSD card slots on the front (I have used them with up to 128gb MicroSD cards) and most importantly for me a physical volume knob.
Cheers Tony.

vidtek said:
Hypnox-
I installed a Joying in mine, a VW EOS, and since doing the Heatsink/fan modification, I have been quite satisfied with it's performance. They supply all the looms and can-bus interface to suit your model car and it is the easiest plug and play install imaginable, takes 5 minutes.
I was in the same position as you, although not as fixated on the sound fidelity I was choosing between a tablet and head unit solution. I am VERY glad I chose the head unit, the finished install looks like an OEM unit and performs with very few hiccups. See the piccies of mine below. The unit I chose was a UK-JY-VM130N2D, it has a digital amplifier and 2 MicroSD card slots on the front (I have used them with up to 128gb MicroSD cards) and most importantly for me a physical volume knob.
Cheers Tony.
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I forgot to post a picture of the finished job, see below. Pic 1 is original MFD2 VW unit, pic 2 the Joying.
Tony

This is some nice unit there Thank you for your input ! By the way this is exactly the Sofia Intel based unit I have my eyes on. I will certainly make the same mod as you if I pull the trigger on this one and the integration into the dash is very sexy
I'm still trying to figure out the HDMI out audio extraction if possible on PX3 Xtrons unit... I might send Xtrons a mail, but not sure if they will reply. Also trying to know if spotify can use USB dac for audio out... Damn, finding the "somewhat" good unit is not easy task.

Hypnox99 said:
This is some nice unit there Thank you for your input ! By the way this is exactly the Sofia Intel based unit I have my eyes on. I will certainly make the same mod as you if I pull the trigger on this one and the integration into the dash is very sexy
I'm still trying to figure out the HDMI out audio extraction if possible on PX3 Xtrons unit... I might send Xtrons a mail, but not sure if they will reply. Also trying to know if spotify can use USB dac for audio out... Damn, finding the "somewhat" good unit is not easy task.
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Hypnox- You seem to be hypnotised (pun intended) by sound quality. I am a video/ audio engineer with 50 years experience. I have installed hundreds of home theatre hif-fi and casino/night club PA systems.
As we age, our hearing deteriorates rapidly from the age of 12 onwards. In today's world with attendant noise pollution, headphone use, aircraft and motor noise and concert visits, our hearing is far worse than previous generations at an earlier age. Most people over 30 will have difficulty hearing any signal over 12,000khz.
There is a hearing testing app in the google play store, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobile.eaudiologia&hl=en using headphone/earbuds why don't you check your own hearing before embarking on a quest for excellent sound in your equipment, you could well save yourself a bundle of dosh and a heap of time!
As we age, the viscocity of the fluid in our ears gets thicker, which is why older people hate the boom boom of bass notes youngsters love so much, it literally resounds inside our heads and is painful. Older folks turn up the treble/high equaliser settings in a vain attempt to hear those high notes we once could hear. This in turn is painful to young people who cannot stand high levels of higher frequencies, because they can actually hear them!
When you try to put a high-fidelity sound system into a car environment, you are basically pushing sh*t uphill. As soon as you open a window, all the careful measurements an audio installer makes literally goes out of the window.
My advice, forget hifi in a car, it's is a nonsense. If you must have hifi in your car, use headphones and let someone else do the driving.
Sorry for the lecture, you don't want to get me started on the monster cable and oxygen-free cable rip-offs
Cheers Tony.

vidtek said:
Hypnox- You seem to be hypnotised (pun intended) by sound quality. I am a video/ audio engineer with 50 years experience. I have installed hundreds of home theatre hif-fi and casino/night club PA systems.
As we age, our hearing deteriorates rapidly from the age of 12 onwards. In today's world with attendant noise pollution, headphone use, aircraft and motor noise and concert visits, our hearing is far worse than previous generations at an earlier age. Most people over 30 will have difficulty hearing any signal over 12,000khz.
There is a hearing testing app in the google play store, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobile.eaudiologia&hl=en using headphone/earbuds why don't you check your own hearing before embarking on a quest for excellent sound in your equipment, you could well save yourself a bundle of dosh and a heap of time!
As we age, the viscocity of the fluid in our ears gets thicker, which is why older people hate the boom boom of bass notes youngsters love so much, it literally resounds inside our heads and is painful. Older folks turn up the treble/high equaliser settings in a vain attempt to hear those high notes we once could hear. This in turn is painful to young people who cannot stand high levels of higher frequencies, because they can actually hear them!
When you try to put a high-fidelity sound system into a car environment, you are basically pushing sh*t uphill. As soon as you open a window, all the careful measurements an audio installer makes literally goes out of the window.
My advice, forget hifi in a car, it's is a nonsense. If you must have hifi in your car, use headphones and let someone else do the driving.
Sorry for the lecture, you don't want to get me started on the monster cable and oxygen-free cable rip-offs
Cheers Tony.
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I understand your point of view, I certainly don't have the same Audio background as you.
However I'm 28 and a music producer and I can certainly tell the difference between pairs of monitoring speaker. Through the years (still a lot to learn though) I have developed my hear in mixing sessions. And I have a passion for listening to music as well.
I have replaced the stock HU of my car with a 100$ Sony last year and I can tell straight away the difference in sound quality. I also made an audio car install on another car and the difference between the stock system is stunning.
Here, I just want to have a decent audio quality, I know that in car audio there is some serious diminishing return when you build your system.
If you take a look on XDA and like diymobileaudio, you will find hundreds of threads stating that the audio quality is poor even in a car...
You know, If for 50$ I can get a DAC working pretty well with it and that it won't crush the audio quality, I'm all for it

Hypnox99 said:
I understand your point of view, I certainly don't have the same Audio background as you.
However I'm 28 and a music producer and I can certainly tell the difference between pairs of monitoring speaker. Through the years (still a lot to learn though) I have developed my hear in mixing sessions. And I have a passion for listening to music as well.
I have replaced the stock HU of my car with a 100$ Sony last year and I can tell straight away the difference in sound quality. I also made an audio car install on another car and the difference between the stock system is stunning.
Here, I just want to have a decent audio quality, I know that in car audio there is some serious diminishing return when you build your system.
If you take a look on XDA and like diymobileaudio, you will find hundreds of threads stating that the audio quality is poor even in a car...
You know, If for 50$ I can get a DAC working pretty well with it and that it won't crush the audio quality, I'm all for it
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Hypnox- OK at 28 your hearing will be far superior to mine-especially as in my mis-spent youth I was in a rock band before health and safety went bananas, we always used the same stage layout so my right ear is shall we say, less than perfect?
I just hate to see people spending money on a system which as you say is subject to the law of diminishing returns when they could be spending it on other leisure pursuits, or food and housing.....
As long as you get a system that floats your boat and you personally are satisfied, who can gainsay that?
Good luck to you, Tony.

Bump. Would love to get an update on the status of that quest of knowledge.

Please can someone help? I really want (as many of you) to use an external DAC (standard PCM2704) with and android HU. It works with my Android 5.1 Tablet but I am really looking for a compatible HU.
Do you have a model that works with USB DAC? I want a recent one available to buy on market.
Thanks

Lets make this Thread a nice help for everyone
So here is my DAC setup and I can say that the sound is so much better. And with an external eq, it is easy to have access to the Bluetooth and the other things you have inside you Head Units until we find a way to send all the signal to the DAC !!!
First of all,
My head Unit is a: XTRONS TE706PL
To go the DAC way, I brought a preamp CLARION EQS755 and an AudioQuest DRAGONFLY RED
The only problem was that I was getting Pops and bizarre sound out of the signal chain.
I get a AmazonBasics 4-Port USB 2.0 Ultra-Mini Hub and I now connect the DAC and the POPS are almost gone now ( it was a current problem i guess ) Only some bizarre sound comes now and then Flash drive is loading. ( only in DAC MODE )
Upgrade for the future
AUDIOQUEST JITTERBUG will change for the IFI ISILENCER
CHORD MOJO or something in that caliber as an EXTERNAL DAC. ( in about 5 month ) as i need some money
I did a some video to show you the difference in quality and the pops I am talking about
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LEBDARV6GRV_wF3pInB1fgjwm4Aw8Gbf
UPDATED
Just receive my IFI ISILENCER , I can say that the sound is about 1 to 4 % better with it. I test it in my car and in my house. It kinda makes a difference but you need to really focus to hear it.
I still have that computer distortion coming from both my HEAD UNIT and my main computer. ( this have to be regularize before the current goes to the head unit I guess )
have a good day.
Have a good day everyone !

Did anyone figure out a way to get the android volum control to turn up and down the usb audio output. ??

Pumpkin 8 Oreo Sound Quality help USB DAC??

Hi all. Id thought Id start another thread regarding the SQ of this device.
Iv always used Alpine Head Units for last 20 years but bit the bullet and bought this device to try and bring my ICE into the future a bit.
My system is HU - RCA's - C-DSP6x8 - RCA's - 3xJL amps - Focal Utopias (6w2/TN51)/2x JL ZR800's/1x JL 13W3
+ a shed load of experience with Room EQ wizard and at least 2 years of my life I won't get back!
In comparison I can say the SQ of the pumpkin sucks, also a bit of ground noise I never had before.
Will a USB DAC work with this unit?
Which one? I read a thread where someone used a USB to SPDIF converter board with Texas instruments chip on board, very simple which is good and cost less than a tenner from Amazon! then there's dragonfly dongles, then there's miniDSP's MiniDAC8. Price range between £10 & £200
Also I was always under the impression if you use a digital signal from your source unit you cannot control the volume from that source unit as bits and bytes cannot be attenuated so the volume control would be from the DSP(via the wired remote)
Can anyone suggest a tried and tested setup for getting a clean signal from this source to my DSP that wont break the bank, (Bit One out of the question) I think Iv spent enough on my system now as its probably worth more than my car! (B7 audi a4 3.0tdi)
Thanks
ps I am a complete Android programming noob but can learn with a bit of help

from Lollipop there is dac native support on all devices, so it should work.
in joying headunit the radio and bluetooth not work with the dac, u can add small speaker for the bt, or connect another rca pair to the sound processor if the pumpkin also suffer this problem.
i recommend the hifimediy, be aware that spdif its digital connection so its really not important which dac u choose , the conversion from analog to digital will process on your c-dsp
u can see dac support here:
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/technology/usb-audio-driver

Hi and thanks for reply. I looked at the DAC you use and read through that link. Another good thing about the external DAC is any analogue ground noise from the device should be isolated. There is ground noise on this units RCA outputs (to be expected on a device in this price range) once you rig up the bluetooth/radio via rca's anywhere into the chain that noise will be re-introduced. I'm not sure there's a way round this issue but its a minor one.
The HiFimeDIY also has spdif out so if connecting to my DSP with digital coax I assume the volume pot wouldn't work? Not a problem since any DAC will have it own analogue volume control I can use the master volume (after DSP). Still if I connected BT/radio via RCA that volume would be controlled by the device. Unless somehow I set everything up for max volume and use just the master to control everything. I have a lot more learning experimenting ahead!
This could be a deal breaker:- Will spotify ouput be routed through the DAC?

mamba76 said:
Hi and thanks for reply. I looked at the DAC you use and read through that link. Another good thing about the external DAC is any analogue ground noise from the device should be isolated. There is ground noise on this units RCA outputs (to be expected on a device in this price range) once you rig up the bluetooth/radio via rca's anywhere into the chain that noise will be re-introduced. I'm not sure there's a way round this issue but its a minor one.
The HiFimeDIY also has spdif out so if connecting to my DSP with digital coax I assume the volume pot wouldn't work? Not a problem since any DAC will have it own analogue volume control I can use the master volume (after DSP). Still if I connected BT/radio via RCA that volume would be controlled by the device. Unless somehow I set everything up for max volume and use just the master to control everything. I have a lot more learning experimenting ahead!
This could be a deal breaker:- Will spotify ouput be routed through the DAC?
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Yes it will.

Thx GTX its got be worth pursuing then
The model of my unit is AE0273B on autopumpkin. Does anyone know for sure that BT/radio/DAB wouldn't be routed through a USB DAC? Would be interesting to know why?
Should I be looking to root this so I can have Viper4Android installed or Neutron player? I just want to unlock the potential for quality audio out, I dont need to tweek the signal or colour it I would like the output flat but a good PEQ app would be helpful.
Using a multimeter and oscilloscope I swept a pure 0db sine wave through the Alpine and the AC voltage from the pre-out only deviated by about 0.01vac from 30hz upto 10k then it climbed a bit more. Done same thing on the Pumpkin and highest unclipped Vac is 1.2vac at 1khz, at 30hz it dropped to 0.5v and same with higher frequencies, just like a sad smile lol. I want a DAC with a flat frequency response and a 4volt pre-out.
The floor noise / ground noise was made worse because I had to increase input gain cos of the crappy pre-outs.
I could do with some help customizing this for quality audio so if anyone's in the same boat and wants to trade ideas Im open to test things on my device and help out where I can.
what apps & DAC's work for you? digital or analogue cabling? What DSPs? Anything regarding SQ is interesting to me
I think Iv taken one step forward and 2 steps back but I'm committed now lol.

Just found and read through this thread - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...io-problems-discussion-thread-t3657637/page11
Aluver seems to be able to fix this issue.
The pumpkin is still a great bit of kit for the price and to be fair I used the buggy built in amplifier app to adjust the eq to a V shape, pulling down 1khz (in the middle)as the lowest point (-6db) and as no surprise I think this has cured the problem this HU caused with the SQ. At low volume my target curve in REW appeared the same its only at high volume when the pre-amp output deviations are at their most extreme (sad smile) which is why it sounded too harsh.
Im really not sure if I would be able to tell the difference from a 100% digital system with high quality DAC and my old alpine setup but it does solve a few problems.
Still have excessive ground noise and amp pop when ignition turned off (never had before) so not sure if Ill be keeping this unit, so maybe up for UK sale in near future!

Really interesting thread, are you planning to buy the DAC finally ? It would be interesting to try a DAC, just to get rid of the ground noise for example.
Seeing your setup, if the source has crappy output you will hear it right away so your EQ modification is quite surprising that it improves the quality that much ! I'm still thinking about pulling the trigger on a model similar as you but very afraid of sound quality. Still trying to decide between Joying Intel or Xtrons PX5

Im going to give it a bit more time to see if I can get it to behave. Iv has this set up with the alpine for a couple of years and am always tweaking / improving so Im very aware of any change. If it hurts your ears at high volume then somethings wrong. The alpine's FR was completely flat and clips just over 2v, the pumpkin clips at different voltages (max 1.3v) but on this unit anything above vol 20 with pure tones will clip, its just a pain in the ass but if you always eq your car with high volume in mind for me that's where it matters. Dont rely on tone generator apps their 0db is not accurate I burnt the test wave files from JL audio website to CD as a reference then match it with Room EQs generator so can sweep any frequency.
Yeah Im gonna look for a DAC would be nice if you could control the DACs volume from steering wheel! And the auto switching rca's it doable or might as well go digital to dsp not sure yet its all a bit of a headache lol, but the units capabilities makes it worth trying. I will post any solutions on here if I find them but may be some time.
Im still trying to work out what this unit gives me that an alpine ilx-f903 (or similar) won't, apart from alot of spare change!
Im sure Iv read pros and cons for either them units but don't know enough about whats inside. I know mines a px5. I would be looking for something that can output everything through USB but not sure it exists.

ordered a minidsp usb streamer from amazon £60 delivered +van damme digi cable. First step see what it does out of the box then install 'USB Audio Driver Pro' app which will bypass the native android drivers??
I think this requires usb debugging mode to be enabled in developer options.
I found a switching module that might come in handy - https://www.tindie.com/products/Beni_Skate/automatic-spdif-opticalrca-audio-switch/#product-reviews
If anyone understands what Im trying to do and can foresee what needs to be done regarding operating system changes I would definately appreciate any advice as Iv no experience at all with the programming side of things i.e changing audio policies, etc...
I should be playing with this again at weekend if all the bits arrive

RoNeReR said:
from Lollipop there is dac native support on all devices, so it should work.
in joying headunit the radio and bluetooth not work with the dac, u can add small speaker for the bt, or connect another rca pair to the sound processor if the pumpkin also suffer this problem.
i recommend the hifimediy, be aware that spdif its digital connection so its really not important which dac u choose , the conversion from analog to digital will process on your c-dsp
u can see dac support here:
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/technology/usb-audio-driver
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Hi RoNeReR. I see your usb dac outputs on analogue rca's. Do you still control the volume from the pumpkin?
Thx

Well as promised I will update this thread with my progress to get my system setup with the pumpkin.
I got my mini streamer but digi cable not arrived yet.
So I enabled developer options which was easy but couldn't find the menu anywhere afterwards, eventually downloaded an app call 'developer options' which does what is says on the tin. I found usb debugging mode was already on then went to 'usb configuration' and set to 'Audio'. Plugged in my ministream and was expecting the audio from spotify to go quiet as is should now be trying to route through the streamer but it didn't appear to change anything. I get a feeling when I eventually get the cable and connect to the dsp I will still have nothing. Anyone know what else I need to do to make audio goes through USB? ASIO drivers?
As I said Iv no experience with android OS but Im learning more and more things, so happy days!

mamba76 said:
Well as promised I will update this thread with my progress to get my system setup with the pumpkin.
I got my mini streamer but digi cable not arrived yet.
So I enabled developer options which was easy but couldn't find the menu anywhere afterwards, eventually downloaded an app call 'developer options' which does what is says on the tin. I found usb debugging mode was already on then went to 'usb configuration' and set to 'Audio'. Plugged in my ministream and was expecting the audio from spotify to go quiet as is should now be trying to route through the streamer but it didn't appear to change anything. I get a feeling when I eventually get the cable and connect to the dsp I will still have nothing. Anyone know what else I need to do to make audio goes through USB? ASIO drivers?
As I said Iv no experience with android OS but Im learning more and more things, so happy days!
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The problem is the software and hardware combination needs modifications (software) to generally work. We have this working on the joying Intel, and hopefully soon on the joying px5 (FYT based) units. Nother brands might not be possible depending on the original manufacturers programming.
If other users with your unit, maybe they have experience. Generally only working on the joying with Xposed properly.

gtxaspec said:
The problem is the software and hardware combination needs modifications (software) to generally work. We have this working on the joying Intel, and hopefully soon on the joying px5 (FYT based) units. Nother brands might not be possible depending on the original manufacturers programming.
If other users with your unit, maybe they have experience. Generally only working on the joying with Xposed properly.
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I see. I read a post where 'Aluver' says he got usb output working on app media and usb fobs but not on BT/radio/DAB (which went throught the MCU instead of DAC?) so assumed it was doable with a few changes to audio policy. Thinking about it not sure if the thread was referring to my HW/SW. Ill read the thread again but got lost in the jargen which I half understand.
So it looks like I'm just gonna have to wait till someone works out a fix.
So PX5 is the hardware and Oreo the software. Whats FYT based? Can this unit be rooted easily yet?
Thanks

mamba76 said:
I see. I read a post where 'Aluver' says he got usb output working on app media and usb fobs but not on BT/radio/DAB (which went throught the MCU instead of DAC?) so assumed it was doable with a few changes to audio policy. Thinking about it not sure if the thread was referring to my HW/SW. Ill read the thread again but got lost in the jargen which I half understand.
So it looks like I'm just gonna have to wait till someone works out a fix.
So PX5 is the hardware and Oreo the software. Whats FYT based? Can this unit be rooted easily yet?
Thanks
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Are there any car android devices out there, chinese or otherwise, that allow for routing ALL audio digitally?
Any HW/SW setups know to work?
What about the latest 'NewsMy NR3001'?

mamba76 said:
I see. I read a post where 'Aluver' says he got usb output working on app media and usb fobs but not on BT/radio/DAB (which went throught the MCU instead of DAC?) so assumed it was doable with a few changes to audio policy. Thinking about it not sure if the thread was referring to my HW/SW. Ill read the thread again but got lost in the jargen which I half understand.
So it looks like I'm just gonna have to wait till someone works out a fix.
So PX5 is the hardware and Oreo the software. Whats FYT based? Can this unit be rooted easily yet?
Thanks
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FYT is the OEM manufacturer for the system on module (SoM) that powers certain head units (that contains the CPU and memory etc)
Px5 is the CPU made by rockchips.

gtxaspec said:
FYT is the OEM manufacturer for the system on module (SoM) that powers certain head units (that contains the CPU and memory etc)
Px5 is the CPU made by rockchips.
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Whats the model of Joying intel you have working? I assume there is still the problem of bluetooth / voice & radio still not being routed through USB on this as well?
I connected my XP laptop to the ministreamer then to DSP (with vanne dam spdif coax) and played some flac files and it sounds great, noise floor is zero! Shame I cant find a device other than my phone to output a dam digital signal for everything!:crying:!
PS: Android 8 Oreo + all extras for sale... £200 anyone?? (comes with dabonwheels DAB external whip aerial, original in dustbin) Will drop in a B6 / B7 Audi A4 like factory does.

mamba76 said:
Whats the model of Joying intel you have working? I assume there is still the problem of bluetooth / voice & radio still not being routed through USB on this as well?
I connected my XP laptop to the ministreamer then to DSP (with vanne dam spdif coax) and played some flac files and it sounds great, noise floor is zero! Shame I cant find a device other than my phone to output a dam digital signal for everything!:crying:!
PS: Android 8 Oreo + all extras for sale... £200 anyone?? (comes with dabonwheels DAB external whip aerial, original in dustbin) Will drop in a B6 / B7 Audi A4 like factory does.
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I have the joying Intel that fits into the b7 a4 as well. On their site, and yeah no radio or Bluetooth yet via dsp.

mamba76 said:
Whats the model of Joying intel you have working? I assume there is still the problem of bluetooth / voice & radio still not being routed through USB on this as well?
I connected my XP laptop to the ministreamer then to DSP (with vanne dam spdif coax) and played some flac files and it sounds great, noise floor is zero! Shame I cant find a device other than my phone to output a dam digital signal for everything!:crying:!
PS: Android 8 Oreo + all extras for sale... £200 anyone?? (comes with dabonwheels DAB external whip aerial, original in dustbin) Will drop in a B6 / B7 Audi A4 like factory does.
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Oh too bad you can't even get the spotify output on the dac? Did you try another dac like hifimediy using optical cable?

gtxaspec said:
I have the joying Intel that fits into the b7 a4 as well. On their site, and yeah no radio or Bluetooth yet via dsp.
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Thanks for the info gtx.. You know a hell of a lot more than me on these things. If you could suggest a head unit thats a safe bet for what Im trying to do Id appreciate any links / model numbers. I bet there's more than one joying intel out there and dont want to make the same mistake twice

Hypnox99 said:
Oh too bad you can't even get the spotify output on the dac? Did you try another dac like hifimediy using optical cable?
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Hi. its not the dac thats the problem its that no one can get the output through the usb cable to start with. At least not yet but sure some very clever ppl on here will figure it out:fingers-crossed:

Dasaita Max 10

I hope I'm posting this in correct section. Has anyone got information on the newest Dasaita Max10-cp? I'm specifically curious about 1280x720 and Android 10
On AliExpress is says it's both 1024x600 and 1280x720 on same advertising page so it's very confusing.
Dasaita communication via messenger is very short answers and they don't seem to answer my questions maybe because there is a major language barrier.
It's supposed to have Android 10.0 among other things. If someone can provide some more info that would be great.
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livethemountainlife said:
I hope I'm posting this in correct section. Has anyone got information on the newest Dasaita Max10-cp? I'm specifically curious about 1280x720 and Android 10
On AliExpress is says it's both 1024x600 and 1280x720 on same advertising page so it's very confusing.
Dasaita communication via messenger is very short answers and they don't seem to answer my questions maybe because there is a major language barrier.
It's supposed to have Android 10.0 among other things. If someone can provide some more info that would be great.
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1280*720
changed 1 MID output to SUB output
Dual SUB Output
Integrated (builtin) carplay+Android Auto
ANDROID 10
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Apparently it's 1024*600 but 1280*720 is coming middle 9r the end of July. This is what I was told by Amazon Dasaita rep.

Hi,
I also bought this PX6 Max10 1280x720.
I found some issues after a few days of use:
1. When no music is playing I can ear a backgroud noise. The seller (Aliexpress MTKNAVI Store) is sending me a new RCA cable, still waiting for it...
2. I have a Toyota Rav4 2017 and with this Max10 all the lock doors settings doen't work such as:
- Lock all doors over 20kms/h
- Unlock when shifting P
- Driver lock button doesn't lock all doors
After speaking with Dasaita over FB Messenger they told that there is a new Canbus version and the seller MTKNAVI is sending me the new one.
So far, all the issues has been addressed by Dasaita and the Seller.
Try to reach Dasaita over Facebook Messenger.

pedromfaria said:
Hi,
I also bought this PX6 Max10 1280x720.
I found some issues after a few days of use:
1. When no music is playing I can ear a backgroud noise. The seller (Aliexpress MTKNAVI Store) is sending me a new RCA cable, still waiting for it...
2. I have a Toyota Rav4 2017 and with this Max10 all the lock doors settings doen't work such as:
- Lock all doors over 20kms/h
- Unlock when shifting P
- Driver lock button doesn't lock all doors
After speaking with Dasaita over FB Messenger they told that there is a new Canbus version and the seller MTKNAVI is sending me the new one.
So far, all the issues has been addressed by Dasaita and the Seller.
Try to reach Dasaita over Facebook Messenger
.
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Known issue due to design defect.

marchnz said:
Known issue due to design defect.
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Hi marchnz,
Which one is a known issue, the background noise or the door lock?

pedromfaria said:
Hi marchnz,
Which one is a known issue, the background noise or the door lock?
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He means the background noise.
They released a rca plugs to avoid that noise...normally coming from the stock amplifier....
Customer must specify the version of the car in order to check if the rca is required.
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livethemountainlife said:
I hope I'm posting this in correct section. Has anyone got information on the newest Dasaita Max10-cp? I'm specifically curious about 1280x720 and Android 10
On AliExpress is says it's both 1024x600 and 1280x720 on same advertising page so it's very confusing.
Dasaita communication via messenger is very short answers and they don't seem to answer my questions maybe because there is a major language barrier.
It's supposed to have Android 10.0 among other things. If someone can provide some more info that would be great.
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I have just installed one Dasaita Max 10, Android 10, 1280x720.

Get mine in a few days. Will post thoughts here.

Just got mine. RAV4 2014 AWD cruiser with amplifier. I have the same problem with the hissing and background noise does anyone have a picture of the RCA cables that are supposed to fix the issue - it's not these?

woggles said:
Just got mine. RAV4 2014 AWD cruiser with amplifier. I have the same problem with the hissing and background noise does anyone have a picture of the RCA cables that are supposed to fix the issue - it's not these?
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I have no idea what these rca cables are that people are talking about, but I doubt they remove hiss. I suspect these people are talking about ground loop noise which CAN be cancelled out with a special rca cable set.... but the hiss is coming directly from the unit itself.
I just ordered a dasaita max 10 and it's still in the mail but my old dasaita px5 is plagued with the same hiss issue which I was never able to get rid of. My guess is that my new max 10 will be the same. Fortunately I drive a jeep with a soft top and big mud tires.... which all pretty much drowns out the hiss
Are you connecting to your amp with the speaker level outs or the rca outs?

Bob_Sanders said:
I have no idea what these rca cables are that people are talking about, but I doubt they remove hiss. I suspect these people are talking about ground loop noise which CAN be cancelled out with a special rca cable set.... but the hiss is coming directly from the unit itself.
I just ordered a dasaita max 10 and it's still in the mail but my old dasaita px5 is plagued with the same hiss issue which I was never able to get rid of. My guess is that my new max 10 will be the same. Fortunately I drive a jeep with a soft top and big mud tires.... which all pretty much drowns out the hiss
Are you connecting to your amp with the speaker level outs or the rca outs?
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I don't think I'm connecting to the amp at all (JBL Greenedge)! I didn't end up using any of the cables numbered 3 to 11 in the attached pic and 14 - 17 are for the reverse camera and factory aux connector. There is no input for it in the bundle of cable harnesses that I can find...am I missing something here?
Thanks for the help, I've asked the seller on Ali about the harnesses - I'll share his replies here.

I Installed mine yesterday and have some issues I bought this one.
C$ 642.79 35%OFF | Dasaita Car Multimedia 10.2" HD Touch Screen Android 10.0 for Toyota Highlander Radio 2015 2016 2017 2018
H5214-MAX10-CP-HD
Hopefully I am just missing something on my setup.
I have a 2018 Toyota Highlander LTD w JBL sound system
I bought the adapter that basically converts the speaker outputs to RCA for the factory amp. I also am using a 4chan Kicker amp so needed to use 4 male to 2 female y splitters to use both. No hiss
My issues are as follows hopefully there is a quick fix.
1. Bluetooth paired with Max10 but just basic info won't send contact info to HU.
2. Offline Nav does not see data without My Samsung Note 9 connected to the MaX10. Using supplied GPS antenna with strong signal.
3. NO Am radio at all ant is plugged in.
Any help would be appreciated. CHEERS

ToyotaJay said:
I Installed mine yesterday and have some issues I bought this one.
C$ 642.79 35%OFF | Dasaita Car Multimedia 10.2" HD Touch Screen Android 10.0 for Toyota Highlander Radio 2015 2016 2017 2018
H5214-MAX10-CP-HD
Hopefully I am just missing something on my setup.
I have a 2018 Toyota Highlander LTD w JBL sound system
I bought the adapter that basically converts the speaker outputs to RCA for the factory amp. I also am using a 4chan Kicker amp so needed to use 4 male to 2 female y splitters to use both. No hiss
My issues are as follows hopefully there is a quick fix.
1. Bluetooth paired with Max10 but just basic info won't send contact info to HU.
2. Offline Nav does not see data without My Samsung Note 9 connected to the MaX10. Using supplied GPS antenna with strong signal.
3. NO Am radio at all ant is plugged in.
Any help would be appreciated. CHEERS
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1. Once paired to your Note 9 go to bluetooth settings on your phone and choose the connection to the headunit. You can see a gear . Push it and check the profiles for the connection. Ensure "contact access" is enabled.
In case it doesn't work. Remove the paired connection from both headunit and phone and pair again. I remember the same issue and corrected after deleting and pairing again.
2. Gps offline. Which offline gps did you installed? If you mean igo gps...perhaps maps were not included...note that installed igo is just a pirated copy if the software...so no support
Isuggest you to get a good offline navigator (like "tomtom or "sygic"....or the free "here maps")
3. Check on factory settings that you have setuo the radio correctly to your region (europe, America1, america2, asia...) password for factory settings = 126
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Thanks for the help I can go the the gear icon I see phone connection for Calls and Audio but I am pretty sure it should say something more ? The reason I am asking is when on the Dasaita I hit the phone icon I can dial a number but not see any contact info?

ToyotaJay said:
Thanks for the help I can go the the gear icon I see phone connection for Calls and Audio but I am pretty sure it should say something more ? The reason I am asking is when on the Dasaita I hit the phone icon I can dial a number but not see any contact info?
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I have the same problem - I'll try re pair and see if it fixes things.
"I bought the adapter that basically converts the speaker outputs to RCA for the factory amp. I also am using a 4chan Kicker amp so needed to use 4 male to 2 female y splitters to use both. No hiss"
Do you have pictures or a link to these?

ToyotaJay said:
I Installed mine yesterday and have some issues I bought this one.
C$ 642.79 35%OFF | Dasaita Car Multimedia 10.2" HD Touch Screen Android 10.0 for Toyota Highlander Radio 2015 2016 2017 2018
H5214-MAX10-CP-HD
Hopefully I am just missing something on my setup.
I have a 2018 Toyota Highlander LTD w JBL sound system
I bought the adapter that basically converts the speaker outputs to RCA for the factory amp. I also am using a 4chan Kicker amp so needed to use 4 male to 2 female y splitters to use both. No hiss
My issues are as follows hopefully there is a quick fix.
1. Bluetooth paired with Max10 but just basic info won't send contact info to HU.
2. Offline Nav does not see data without My Samsung Note 9 connected to the MaX10. Using supplied GPS antenna with strong signal.
3. NO Am radio at all ant is plugged in.
Any help would be appreciated. CHEERS
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I have IGO nav on my Dasaita px5 and it is most definitely an off line system which does not require a connection. As @ikerg suggested maybe you didn't download the updated maps for your area? If you're talking about google or waze or some nav system like that... they are not really off line systems.
As noted on my above post, I haven't got my max 10 yet (still in the mail. It might come within the next 5 years or so given the speed and accuracy of China Post!) but I did notice with my px5 the request for permission to download bluetooth information (contacts, recents... etc) always came in like 10 or 15 minutes after initial pairing. Never did figure out why the delay, but give it a little while.
Interesting about the lack of hiss. I'm using the rca's directly off the back of my px5 (which I always assumed to be cleaner than the speaker outputs) to my amps and I DO get hiss. Even when volume is ZERO you can faintly hear it. Maybe I will try the speaker outputs

Sorry to be clear I am using the 2v rca outputs as well the y splitters are used for the adapter to the JBL factory amp and to my Kicker amp connected to the outputs from the HU . I guess Dasaita made this adaptor to send a better signal to the factory Amp to get rid of that noise Is my guesstimate Others have said it fixed their issues on the JBL system
And your right probably need to connect through hotspot again and go to maps and download the offline data just like my phone not used to a andriod HU as a stereo replacement.
Anyone know how to get the Max10 to auto pair with my hotspot I leave it on the phone side but have to keep hitting the wifi connection every time .The system setting is set to auto connect i believe.
OK FIXED the Max 10 Bluetooth issue after pairing go to phone icon on Dasaita hit the Sync button two arrows doing the spin third button down on the right menu . Then the request for sharing contact info showed up on the phone request and voila!

ToyotaJay said:
Sorry to be clear I am using the 2v rca outputs as well the y splitters are used for the adapter to the JBL factory amp and to my Kicker amp connected to the outputs from the HU . I guess Dasaita made this adaptor to send a better signal to the factory Amp to get rid of that noise Is my guesstimate Others have said it fixed their issues on the JBL system
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Ah ok, so it arrived with your order? I guess I'll need to try and get them to ship the adapter out to me...
Does anyone have a pic of the adapter? I want to see if I could make it myself instead of waiting another month for it to arrive from China

Mine arrived in 5 days with DHL should not take that long. Honestly better to use the head unit power than the JBL but I was feeling lazy LOL

Junsun V1 pro 8/128 - no app sound

Hello everyone,
recently i installed a Junsun Head Unit in my Audi TT MK2 (2012) with the bose system.
I had a xtrons PX5 before that worked like a dream until the touchscreen died.
The JunsunHead Unit works fine, but there is a strange behaviour i can't figure out.
Everything is connected through the quadlock and a canbus adapter from the seller, also there is a aux harness connected. pretty much standard stuff.
My problem:
The integrated radio app has sound. Music via Bluetooth works also just fine.
Every third party app like youtube, spotify, waze, maps, ... has absolutely no sound. nothing.
Googling my problem wasn't really helpful. Connecting the AMP CTRL Wire to ACC oder every other 12V wire to activate the bose amp in the trunk doesn't do anything, still no sound. And yes, the amp is working just fine, when i connect the amp ctrl wire to the powered antenna while using the radio app you can hear the difference in the sound qualitiy because of the amp working, but like i said you also have sound without the connected amp so there should be sound in any other app also, right? I don't want to listen to radio stations all day - i want spotify
In the hidden menues every setting looks just fine, everything works except the sound in app.
So my guess is the firmware, i already contacted the seller but he didn't responded yet.
Is there a newer firmware available? Or do any of you guys have any idea how to fix my problem?
One more thing: how to do a factory reset on this unit? Is there a code or a special way to press the touchbuttons...? Is it the "erase all content" in the factory settings?
Thank you so much in advance!

no idea?

How is audio output connected to your car/amp? SPDIF coaxial?

Android head unit. Some apps no sound. Radio app has sound.
Hi all. I stumbled upon these forum by googling my issue. So far I haven't found any answers to my problems, so hoping for some help from the great people on here. I have recently installed a seicane 10.1 android head unit into my jeep wrangler...
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TorstenH said:
Android head unit. Some apps no sound. Radio app has sound.
Hi all. I stumbled upon these forum by googling my issue. So far I haven't found any answers to my problems, so hoping for some help from the great people on here. I have recently installed a seicane 10.1 android head unit into my jeep wrangler...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I've seen this thread. Didn't really help.
Everything is connected through the OEM quadlock (with bose) + the canbus encoder and AUX left/right in the wiring harness.
Spoke to the seller several times now and he has no idea either. He's sending me a new firmware the next few days to test... otherwise i'll send the head unit back. Must be some software issues cause some apps have sound, others don't... doesn't make any sense to me

DennisH89 said:
I've seen this thread. Didn't really help.
Everything is connected through the OEM quadlock (with bose) + the canbus encoder and AUX left/right in the wiring harness.
Spoke to the seller several times now and he has no idea either. He's sending me a new firmware the next few days to test... otherwise i'll send the head unit back. Must be some software issues cause some apps have sound, others don't... doesn't make any sense to me
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The radio app is only an interface to control the radio hardware. Bluetooth may be the same. So it makes sense.

Hey everyone,
little feedback after updating the Headunit with the newest firmware from junsun:
Everything works now!!
Here's the link to 8667q v23 01082022
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xV...w?spm=a2g0s.imconversation.0.0.53de3e5frmrEed

DennisH89 said:
Hey everyone,
little feedback after updating the Headunit with the newest firmware from junsun:
Everything works now!!
Here's the link to 8667q v23 01082022
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xV...w?spm=a2g0s.imconversation.0.0.53de3e5frmrEed
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Happy to hear that it wasn't hardware related.