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Hello guys, I have just bought this phone, my first Xiaomi device, I bought it because of the price, design, battery and performance, but there's a really big fact for me to consider, THE CAMERA.
A friend of mine has a Redmi Note 3 Pro, so I could have a reference point about MI devices before buying it, I really had a good taste of it, the camera looked good, also the screen did.
But my surprise (for bad) was that the Redmi 4 Prime camera's really poor! especially indoors or low light conditions, the selfie camera also sucks, it lacks a lot from light. I have researched a little bit more and found that the cameras on the Redmi Note 3 Pro are different from the 4 Prime (a bad desition in my opinion).
My question is: Is the Redmi 4 Prime camera that bad (hardware issue) or it could be a matter of software (maybe trying another ROM) btw, I have tried another camera apps and still the same.
Even if the camera quality issues are software, I don't expect Xiaomi to solve them any time soon.
Anyway, the G4 is definitely not a good phone: the battery lasts like 4 hours of SoT at most, the build quality is lacklustre, and in general performance day to day performance is worse than the R4P. Also, the most important thing: LG used a cheap soldering material on the G4 (and the V10, and apparently also the V20) that wears down over time, and causes the phone to bootloop after more or less a year of use.
You should consider the Moto G5 Plus, if you want a decent camera for a low(ish) price.
Most midrange phone will produce ranging from bad to mediocre photo in a low light situation. I don't know about Moto G5 Plus, haven't read any good review or even own a unit of it. Never expect a low to midrange phone camera to compete in flagship camera competition. And yes, indeed, Redmi Note series, most of the time, have better cameras than non-Note series.
Is the note a upgrade or downgrade from the le pro 3?
Personally I consider it a downgrade. Perhaps camera is better (although GCam in Le Pro 3 rocks) and lower and newer processor means better battery life, but in general terms it can't beat Le Pro 3.
A sidegrade at best. Better cam, better battery life, slower cpu, much worse GPU, worse build quality, worse connectivity (micro usb in 2018?!)
Forsaken75 said:
Personally I consider it a downgrade. Perhaps camera is better (although GCam in Le Pro 3 rocks) and lower and newer processor means better battery life, but in general terms it can't beat Le Pro 3.
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How about the SD 660 redmi a2
mikeysteele said:
A sidegrade at best. Better cam, better battery life, slower cpu, much worse GPU, worse build quality, worse connectivity (micro usb in 2018?!)
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How about the SD 660 redmi a2 I don't play intensive graphic games just garena free fire
Coconut tree said:
How about the SD 660 redmi a2 I don't play intensive graphic games just garena free fire
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I've got a Mi 6x so basically the same phone. Again it's a sidegrade from the Le Pro3. It's not really that much different from the Redmi Note 6 really, it just has a slightly more powerful CPU and a smaller battery and USB-C.
Coconut tree said:
Is the note a upgrade or downgrade from the le pro 3?
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its not a bad phone at all but and that price range the Xiaomi A2 is a better buy.
tsongming said:
its not a bad phone at all but and that price range the Xiaomi A2 is a better buy.
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I really like the a2 but the 3000mah is a deal breaker plus i really love miui
Some youtube reviewer put the Le Pro 3 (with custom rom) up against the Redmi Note 5 Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Jj0mPyZTc
Surprisingly the S820 with UFS 2.0 storage couldn't beat the newer S636 with just slower EMMC, despite using a custom rom on the Leeco vs MIUI on the Redmi.
On top of that, the Redmi Notes have a microSD slot, 3.5mm headphone jack and a significantly better battery life. I've also not been able to get rid of the fluctuating cell signal strength and noticably high input lag on my Le Pro 3 (x722/Elite).
So unless you're into gaming, the Redmi is a better choice. The build quality is likely better on the Le Pro 3. But I'd go with the Pocophone or Mi 8 Lite atm, they're more expensive than the Redmi Note 5/6 but better value imho.
433Mhz said:
Some youtube reviewer put the Le Pro 3 (with custom rom) up against the Redmi Note 5 Pro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Jj0mPyZTc
Surprisingly the S820 with UFS 2.0 storage couldn't beat the newer S636 with just slower EMMC, despite using a custom rom on the Leeco vs MIUI on the Redmi.
On top of that, the Redmi Notes have a microSD slot, 3.5mm headphone jack and a significantly better battery life. I've also not been able to get rid of the fluctuating cell signal strength and noticably high input lag on my Le Pro 3 (x722/Elite).
So unless you're into gaming, the Redmi is a better choice. The build quality is likely better on the Le Pro 3. But I'd go with the Pocophone or Mi 8 Lite atm, they're more expensive than the Redmi Note 5/6 but better value imho.
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I wonder what a custom it is. This movie without selecting a good custom on le pro 3 is unreliable.
Hidden1977 said:
I wonder what a custom it is. This movie without selecting a good custom on le pro 3 is unreliable.
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I agree.
The Rom was Pixel Experience June 2018 around the time that Gabronog was doing blind updates due to his phone being bricked or damaged. I was using that Rom around that time and although that Rom was great overall.
That time period wasn't the best of what the PIXEL rom could be. If I remember correctly in June 2018, AICP and Lineage were the best performers and Miui 9 had the best battery life.
I can say this with some confidence since I have kept a record of stats for all the Roms that I have used since early June 2018.
Someone here switched from Galaxy S7 or S7 Edge to Redmi note 7 ?
s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?
chiplovez9x said:
s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?
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I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.
Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
Processor, functionality, performance, build quality, battery life, camera, gaming etc
Mi 8 can now be had for under $400 new as well if price matters to you
Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better
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achour7 said:
Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better
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I'm not sure... S7 photos may be a little better since it was the flagship of the year a couple years back.
If you're worried about photos, I'd get the Mi 8 or if you can afford... Skip the Xiaomi budget line altogether and go straight for the The Mi 9.
Don't get me wrong... Redmi Note 7 or it's twin brother Mi 8 Lite are both spectacular phones especially for the money to value quotient. They pack a hell of a punch and are popular globally for a reason but coming from the S7, if you're not willing to compromise a little bit in the area of video and photo quality, you're better off shopping for a Xiaomi flagship.
Either phone (Mi 8 or Mi 9) is the flagship experience you want but the Mi 9 will blow you away and be the true upgrade you're looking for
tiguy99 said:
Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
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I just got a Redmi Note 7 today, and it will replace a ZTE Axon 7 (Snapdragon 820, like the US version S7), so I'm in a similar position.
Haven't used it much yet, but initial impressions are very good. I just run some tests on both phones in Geekbench Pro, and the Redmi Note 7 won in some areas, while the Axon 7 still smoked it in some tests. You're right, the overall performance should feel pretty similar to the S7.
Benchmarks aside, I'm happy to have a new device that is fully up to date - stock Pie (that I'll dump in favor of LOS as soon as I'm able, haha), a big battery and efficient CPU, a really fast fingerprint scanner in a natural position (meaning NOT on the front), a big screen (any bigger wouldn't fit my pocket), VOLTE, a decent camera, and some support on XDA. It took me a while to decide to buy it because I was concerned about it not having an OLED screen but now I don't think it's going to be an issue - it looks good. Works with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) here.
Only Day 1, but I'm satisfied so far, especially for $200!
RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)
These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.
tiguy99 said:
These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.
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I finally replaced my S7 and for now I am completely satisfied except the camera. I will test Gcam and see the result...
chazy chaz said:
RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)
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I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.
That's awesome!
Can't wait until you try GCam.
Think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Also try open camera for 4K video recording?
achour7 said:
I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.
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achour7 said:
I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.
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Yes Redmi note 7 is next level in term of screen size, entertaining purpose, everyday all around. Battery life 2 days on minimal use. Picture not as good as s7 edge
I replaced Huawei P10 whit RN7 and I'm surprised how better it is comparing to P10. Screen picture quality is way better and camera whit Gcam too. P10 have Leica lense blā, blā, but I don't like Leica look and that camera overexposes picture, loses detail in texture whit smoothing, makes picture to oversaturated and colors too neutral. RN7 whit GCam is neutral, exposes good and colors are good. If You like overprocessed pictures then You might want different camera app.
P10 is not S7, but I can say this phone is good. Only complains are weight, and writing is a bit hard for Me in position as I hold the phone. Of course there is minor things like screen is a bit less bright comparing to P10, plastic body, speaker can be more clear, still usb 2.0, no nfc, no IP rating etc. If You don't want to spend alot of money on phone as I do then this is solid choice. For that extra 250€ I would spend on phone I can buy alot of different things for Me.
Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.
bestjsg said:
Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.
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Plus we can help you negate some of the flaws
To get the original look with the added app drawer, install Poco Launcher from the Play Store and you're done with that part.
Screen res? Can you actually notice S7's higher pixels per inch count? Nothing to do about that though.
To overcome the lack of permanent notifications at the top, install Notch Test (Notifications for MIUI) and set up the position, give all permissions to the app, autostart, set battery restrictions to none, and lock it in the app switcher so MIUI can't kill it off. I have the icons position set to 215 from the left and 36 from the top. Works great and mitigates the issue completely (issue for those of us not coming from MIUI, accustomed to "permanent" notifications).
Camera start-up - nothing to do about that unless Xiaomi updates the firmware to do so. GCam takes even more to start, but the image it produces is more than worth the wait.
Should I sell my poco for mi 9? The battery is ****y for me and mi9t screen is tempting.
We don't know if you should sell it. But the only Pro thing in Poco is the performance, and much bigger development. Nothing else. Even though the SD730 is still good and you don't feel much difference when multitasking or opening apps compared too SD 845.
only if you want notch-less display. And an oled. Not that this oled would be something to write home about, but anyone's preference is different, the colors are peppy enough but the outdoor visibility is mediocre and probably not much better than the ips on f1. But flat screen, minimal bezels and chin, no notch is a thing that makes using a phone really immersive.
And battery is great on mi9t, so if the battery life is important for you and poco is not delivering the goods, this probably won't be a step back. The SD730 performs quite well actually.
Battery is far an away better on the 9T. I had a Mi 8 Pro before the 9T, which I'm guessing had similar batter to the Poco. The 9T lasts at LEAST twice as long, and I really can't tell much of a difference in performance otherwise. The fingerprint scanner on the 9T is excellent - better than the 8 Pro, better than the Galaxy S10, and better than the OnePlus 7. Even with dirty hands, the 9T's scanner works.
I have both, prefer Poco F1!
If the battery is your main issue then switching to the 9T will give you a way better battery with a bunch of extras too, Like a notch less immersive OLED display, a premium feeling design & a bunch of other stuff as well. That being said the thing that the F1 outruns the 9T in is the SD845 and trust me it's not that different from the SD730, You'll get some hiccups in Gaming performance but it will run pretty much anything GPU extensive on medium graphics, Plus it's way more efficient in battery consumption and will run day to day tasks just like the 845.
Hello.
I'm going to switch from my old op3 to a new phone. I'm on a buget, about 350$, and I can't decide between 9T and pocophone. The 9T looks promising but there is a huge lack of mods (roms, gcam ports, official twrp etc). On the other hand pocophone has a huge dev community, much like op1 had back in the day.
If I knew that the 9T will gain the same ammount of interest from devs I would buy it but F1 is a clear winner because of the community around it.
I understand that F1 camera quality is much improved with gcam ports. But is it better than the 9T default camera performance?
The display is also a downside for F1. OLED is anyway much better than any IPS but then again, there is small to none community around 9T.
I'm kinda stuck between these two. What would you buy?
Havoc is currently quite stable and the devs are still working on it. The display really looks good and that would be enough for me to take 9T over Pocophone to be honest.
editheraven said:
Hello.
I'm going to switch from my old op3 to a new phone. I'm on a buget, about 350$, and I can't decide between 9T and pocophone. The 9T looks promising but there is a huge lack of mods (roms, gcam ports, official twrp etc). On the other hand pocophone has a huge dev community, much like op1 had back in the day.
If I knew that the 9T will gain the same ammount of interest from devs I would buy it but F1 is a clear winner because of the community around it.
I understand that F1 camera quality is much improved with gcam ports. But is it better than the 9T default camera performance?
The display is also a downside for F1. OLED is anyway much better than any IPS but then again, there is small to none community around 9T.
I'm kinda stuck between these two. What would you buy?
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You are probably misinformed, if you want to use gcam 9t supports the latest builds of gcam 7 with no issues. You can find topics here on the forum. I'm using it myself.
I come from a pocophone and I can tell you I did the best choice:
1 Got rid of that awful notch, and now I have a big ass screen
2 AMOLED
3 The best custom ROM for Poco was Havoc, 9T has it and it's really good
4 Now I have LTE everywhere ( I'm from USA) on Poco I had only H+
5 Camera is really good, Poco was a little better, but for user experience, its excellent.
Yes maybe 9t lacks of Custom ROMs but I have eto be honest, what is the advantage of having 10 custom ROMs which only difference is the ROM name, it's better to have two or three but really good and stable
Is the WIDEVINE L1 reverting to L3 when unlocking bootloader/installing custom roms still a problem?
nosiobadx said:
I come from a pocophone and I can tell you I did the best choice:
1 Got rid of that awful notch, and now I have a big ass screen
2 AMOLED
3 The best custom ROM for Poco was Havoc, 9T has it and it's really good
4 Now I have LTE everywhere ( I'm from USA) on Poco I had only H+
5 Camera is really good, Poco was a little better, but for user experience, its excellent.
Yes maybe 9t lacks of Custom ROMs but I have eto be honest, what is the advantage of having 10 custom ROMs which only difference is the ROM name, it's better to have two or three but really good and stable
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Got to agree with most of this but from the few photos I have taken so far with the stock camera, I thought they looked a little better than Poco.
Had Poco for 6 months, and liked everything about it but ghost touch issue was killing me, so i sold it and got Mi9t, and here is my opinion:
- system performance is excellent
- cameras are better on Poco, especially gcam ports which are much more oprimized than for Mi9t
- battery life is ok, but on Poco it was more consistent, I got similar SOT on both
- fingerprint scanner is much much better on Poco
- popup camera is slow and gimmicky, totally unecessary
I would advise you not to switch for now, I sold my Mi9t and bought Mi8, which is a better phone all around