Hello.
I'm going to switch from my old op3 to a new phone. I'm on a buget, about 350$, and I can't decide between 9T and pocophone. The 9T looks promising but there is a huge lack of mods (roms, gcam ports, official twrp etc). On the other hand pocophone has a huge dev community, much like op1 had back in the day.
If I knew that the 9T will gain the same ammount of interest from devs I would buy it but F1 is a clear winner because of the community around it.
I understand that F1 camera quality is much improved with gcam ports. But is it better than the 9T default camera performance?
The display is also a downside for F1. OLED is anyway much better than any IPS but then again, there is small to none community around 9T.
I'm kinda stuck between these two. What would you buy?
Havoc is currently quite stable and the devs are still working on it. The display really looks good and that would be enough for me to take 9T over Pocophone to be honest.
editheraven said:
Hello.
I'm going to switch from my old op3 to a new phone. I'm on a buget, about 350$, and I can't decide between 9T and pocophone. The 9T looks promising but there is a huge lack of mods (roms, gcam ports, official twrp etc). On the other hand pocophone has a huge dev community, much like op1 had back in the day.
If I knew that the 9T will gain the same ammount of interest from devs I would buy it but F1 is a clear winner because of the community around it.
I understand that F1 camera quality is much improved with gcam ports. But is it better than the 9T default camera performance?
The display is also a downside for F1. OLED is anyway much better than any IPS but then again, there is small to none community around 9T.
I'm kinda stuck between these two. What would you buy?
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You are probably misinformed, if you want to use gcam 9t supports the latest builds of gcam 7 with no issues. You can find topics here on the forum. I'm using it myself.
I come from a pocophone and I can tell you I did the best choice:
1 Got rid of that awful notch, and now I have a big ass screen
2 AMOLED
3 The best custom ROM for Poco was Havoc, 9T has it and it's really good
4 Now I have LTE everywhere ( I'm from USA) on Poco I had only H+
5 Camera is really good, Poco was a little better, but for user experience, its excellent.
Yes maybe 9t lacks of Custom ROMs but I have eto be honest, what is the advantage of having 10 custom ROMs which only difference is the ROM name, it's better to have two or three but really good and stable
Is the WIDEVINE L1 reverting to L3 when unlocking bootloader/installing custom roms still a problem?
nosiobadx said:
I come from a pocophone and I can tell you I did the best choice:
1 Got rid of that awful notch, and now I have a big ass screen
2 AMOLED
3 The best custom ROM for Poco was Havoc, 9T has it and it's really good
4 Now I have LTE everywhere ( I'm from USA) on Poco I had only H+
5 Camera is really good, Poco was a little better, but for user experience, its excellent.
Yes maybe 9t lacks of Custom ROMs but I have eto be honest, what is the advantage of having 10 custom ROMs which only difference is the ROM name, it's better to have two or three but really good and stable
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Got to agree with most of this but from the few photos I have taken so far with the stock camera, I thought they looked a little better than Poco.
Had Poco for 6 months, and liked everything about it but ghost touch issue was killing me, so i sold it and got Mi9t, and here is my opinion:
- system performance is excellent
- cameras are better on Poco, especially gcam ports which are much more oprimized than for Mi9t
- battery life is ok, but on Poco it was more consistent, I got similar SOT on both
- fingerprint scanner is much much better on Poco
- popup camera is slow and gimmicky, totally unecessary
I would advise you not to switch for now, I sold my Mi9t and bought Mi8, which is a better phone all around
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So I was really considering on buying the 5s but now thinking is it really worth it?
They are boasting about the camera but they removed OIS! IR blaster though that's not a deal breaker. Guess camera is the highlight really
Here's a decent video https://youtu.be/ffO30N8OxtM
I'm actually contemplating about the same choice. I almost bought Mi 5 Prime with 3GB RAM, but was a bit hesitant because of the following things:
Mi 5 is one of the easiest bend-breakable phones so you need some sturdy case to mitigate bend break problem
(un)availability of custom ROMs as I don't think I'd like running MIUI on the long run. I would rather put some as vanilla as possible OS on it
Ordering from China is a bit risky
But in the meantime Mi 5S came out and I really like that it has aluminium back and upgraded processor although I'm not sure whether there's significant performance difference between the two. But if I do buy myself Mi 5S, I'll likely have to wait for a longer time before I'll be able to get some vanilla Android on it. Pixel is just too crazy expensive.
I guess I'll wait a bit until we get some feedback from the community to see how well this device is built and performs.
Just my 2 cents:
1) OIS on the Mi5s is not available for the sensor atm, might be, "might be" due to its large sensor. (As Google Pixel phones do not have OIS as well)
-On the bright side, the DIS works like a charm :3
2) If you want to get yourself "Daydream VR ready", do get the Mi5s as the Snapdragon 821 supports it~ (even though the performance increase is not skyrocket high)
3) After watching several videos from Youtube about Mi5 and Mi5s, camera performance is in fact increased for the Mi5s.
-However, low light scenario based pictures and videos would have varying results I suppose.
-Since it uses the same sensor as Google Pixel but not as great as Google Pixel's camera quality, future updates "might" be able to increase the Mi5s camera performance. (Or maybe even custom ROMs).
4) From what I heard on chinese Mi5s reviews/hands on, the ultrasonic fingerprint reader's performance may vary. Might be due to its 'newborn' nature (it is a new tech, so optimisation might not be optimal).
5) Like what literadesign mentioned, the Mi5 surely is a "bendable" phone. I assume that Mi5s alloy body would have make it less bendable. (Hard to say, do not just buy it to try its bendable level lel)
In the end, it is all about your choice~
Damn, didn't know the mi5 bends easy. The mi5 with 4way axis is a joke, seen some vids
What other alternatives are the part from op3? Mayne Zuk z2 pro
Hi All,
I've bought both the Xiaomi Mi5s (miui 8 global) and the OnePlus 3T (oxygen OS 4.03 Android 7) and am trialling both for a few before I send the loser (if you could possibly call one of these great phones a loser) back. I'm finding it very difficult to chose.
Either phone is a huge upgrade from my previous and very safe and stable iPhone 5s. I hope you can help me resolve my conundrum.
My thoughts so far on the comparison:
Software and interfaces:
Both phones have great software but for me the xiaomi swings it on being more customisable in terms of the interface, being able to easily change themes. As nice as changing themes is however, a lot of the themes are like those Kodi skins with weird phrases like "seize the moment" plastered on the home screen. It is a nice to have though and some of them have added some clever navigation features for app sidetray access.
It has a couple of other features that are nice to haves like 'force touch' and recording calls as a standard option but both of these features I would rarely use and can live without. Miuis second space feature is a bit surplus to requirements considering fingerprint locking is all you need for security I'm not sure why I'd need to hide apps etc on another part of the phone, I also found it a bit slow to switch spaces.
Hardware:
Here the OnePlus wins, more ram more speed, not that noticeable in day to day operations but the fingerprint sensor on the Xiaomi has been disappointing, even after rescanning my thumb a couple of times it still either fails to unlock or takes a long time to unlock. The OnePlus 3T is super quick on the fingerprint unlock like the speed of light and very reliable for me. Screen sizes on both are nice, I prefer the larger OnePlus though. I would also say the microphone sensitivity on the OnePlus 3T is better in picking up the "OK google" commands. Both seem to be quite quiet on phone calls with the earphones plugged in, if you make regular conference calls this is quite annoying and there are lots of complaints on the xiaomi forums regarding this for the global rom.
Camera:
This is where the big let down is on the 3T and probably the reason I am still hanging on to the xiaomi . Despite impressive specs on paper I've found shots low in detail compared to the Xiaomi and poor when shooting moving objects. Low light performance is not great on both but overall I feel the Xiaomi Mi5s is the better camera. Video recording I can't comment, both seem to very similar. I'm not a huge photographer and don't post lots of pictures to social media so maybe I can live without it. I'm hoping something can be done with the OP3T camera to resolve some of the above issues.
Athetics and buttons etc:
I like the feel of the OP3T better but the Xiaomi is easier to hold on accounts of is size.
Anyway I hope you can help me with some thoughts here, would love to keep both but I ain't that rich, ideally I'd merge the two but it just can't happen.
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
felixjet said:
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
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OK so maybe you could suggest what's more important for you personally? Am I too hung up on the themes aspect?
Xiaomi Mi5s has a rear camera sensor with 1.55 um pixels (IMX 378 - As in the G Pixel), yet low light performance is not great? How come?
"Despite impressive camera specs on paper for 3T" - The Mi5S has more impressive specs on paper.
Because sensor is not everything my friend
I have Huawei P20 Pro now, and OP 6t or 6 is interesting for me I want to find out the Oxygen OS.
But I'll change my phone in fall, to a Pixel 4/4 XL, OP 7T or Note 10.
Camera, software, battery life and teh speakers which is important for me.
Camera is great on p20 pro but Pixel is better in this category, front facing camera is so bad at p20 pro and I like the pixel's more, and OP has ported Gcam. How good is that?
Battery life on this phone is great, and probably the 6T is as good as it, because OP always has good battery life and the 6/6T runs Android Pie which is also better for battery.
Software where is the P20 Pro is bleeding. Emui is the worst I've ever used. I did not use stock android or Oxygen OS. I just saw them on my frieand's rooted phone. I I love the smoothness and the cleanness of the stock android, and the customizations of Oxygen OS. That's why I'm interested in Pixel 4/4xl or OP devices.
Speakers is not too much important but good to have stereo speakers. What is a sad point at OP but Google Pixels has good speakers.
Display is not the best on P20 pro. I used Galaxy Note 8 before and Samsung is the king of the screens. It was sharper, it had better colors. But the screen is just a good point, not necessarily to be better than the Samsung's Amoled display.
I want to try out the OP maybe I'll not like it that much as I expect, but I might help then to chose between Pixel 4/4XL and OP 7T.
So my question is.
Should I chane my P20 pro for this couple of months to a OP 6 or 6t?
Or just wait for Pixel 4/4xl or OP 7t?
Thank you for helping me!
Camera is average, Speaker is average, Battery life is amazing, Software can be good latest patch is a bit meh but older builds are great.
It comes down to how much money you will lose from the P20 and then on the 6T if that's an issue for you. If money is no problem then go for it :laugh:
Camera is average, but what about ported GCam? Does it help a lot or just a bit better??
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Camera is average, but what about ported GCam? Does it help a lot or just a bit better??
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Just a bit better... Camera sensors are budget Sony sensors.. So yeah nothing amazing going on here in the camera department if you require it at top of your list look elsewhere.
I came from P20 Pro as well. Go for it. You will not regret it.
Camera is really fine. The gcam mod makes it even better, especially portrait shots. You won't miss the P20 camera after a few days.
There is a stereo speaker mod for oneplus devices so you will not really miss that as well.
Battery is about the same usually. I'm getting even better battery life with the 6T with custom kernel.
Oxygen OS is far better than EMUI so you're gonna love it.
Thank you!
I think I give it a try. I'm interested in OP so it will be good for experience. If I like it and the Pixel will have some issues, I might stay with 6T for a longer time.
I would definitely wait for the OnePlus 7. The 6 and 6T are good options but the cameras not great,and no dual speakers, battery life is great on the 6T,I had the 6 also and honestly prefer the 6 over the 6T because its the fingerprint is better and the software is better optimized on the 6.
The only main advantage you would get from switching to OnePlus from where you are now would be the software.It is much cleaned and much faster than anything else with regular updates especially on the open betas.
If you must,go with the 6T if you don't mind ghe slower in screen fingerprint,but has bigger battery.
I would just wait for the 7 at this stage
Actually I don't want to pay for 7, I will be more expensive than the P20 pro, and my main plan is buy a Pixel 4 or 4 XL, so I'll go for 6T which is near same price with P20 pro, and save money for later to the pixel's.
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
Why not.
If i would be buying, i would check if any recognised ROM developer getting that phone. If there isn't a good developer base in XDA, you have to entirely rely on Xiaomi; for updates, for ****ty camera updates etc.
Mi A3 is available, good specs for around 200 bugs
I was waiting for A3, but that subpar display is a big show stopper for me (HD + pentile matrix [emoji2961]). I will wait a bit and if there are no news about proper Android One successor (A3 "pro"), I am going to risk MIUI on 9T. Maybe I'll get used to it with root and some modifications..who knows [emoji846]
Has everyone forgot about treble support by default on newer devices?
Devs will be trying to make GSIs, which will result in much better ROM availablity. And newer kernel isn't a big deal like it was few years back.
So go buy any phone you want.
Hriddhi said:
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
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I just purchased my Mi 9T 2 days ago. The difference between Stock and MIUI is night and day. I miss being able to pull down the notification shade using the fingerprint scanner.
And although the navigation buttons on A1 take up screen real estate, the gesture navigation on the 9T just feels clunky. I hate the swipe left/right on screen to go back.
It was also a headache to remove the bloat apps, as I use mostly Google apps. And I haven't had any experience of Xiaomi Ads, but removing those were the first thing that I did.
In all fairness tho, for the price, it was worth the upgrade because of the camera, Snapdragon 730 and the gorgeous Amoled Screen. I'll probably swap MIUI w/ Lineage OS soon.
Should I sell my poco for mi 9? The battery is ****y for me and mi9t screen is tempting.
We don't know if you should sell it. But the only Pro thing in Poco is the performance, and much bigger development. Nothing else. Even though the SD730 is still good and you don't feel much difference when multitasking or opening apps compared too SD 845.
only if you want notch-less display. And an oled. Not that this oled would be something to write home about, but anyone's preference is different, the colors are peppy enough but the outdoor visibility is mediocre and probably not much better than the ips on f1. But flat screen, minimal bezels and chin, no notch is a thing that makes using a phone really immersive.
And battery is great on mi9t, so if the battery life is important for you and poco is not delivering the goods, this probably won't be a step back. The SD730 performs quite well actually.
Battery is far an away better on the 9T. I had a Mi 8 Pro before the 9T, which I'm guessing had similar batter to the Poco. The 9T lasts at LEAST twice as long, and I really can't tell much of a difference in performance otherwise. The fingerprint scanner on the 9T is excellent - better than the 8 Pro, better than the Galaxy S10, and better than the OnePlus 7. Even with dirty hands, the 9T's scanner works.
I have both, prefer Poco F1!
If the battery is your main issue then switching to the 9T will give you a way better battery with a bunch of extras too, Like a notch less immersive OLED display, a premium feeling design & a bunch of other stuff as well. That being said the thing that the F1 outruns the 9T in is the SD845 and trust me it's not that different from the SD730, You'll get some hiccups in Gaming performance but it will run pretty much anything GPU extensive on medium graphics, Plus it's way more efficient in battery consumption and will run day to day tasks just like the 845.