My s10+ is with me since 2 or 3 weeks now
Now the adaptive power switches to medium power saving at just 68%
Is this correct?
Mohamad Gahed said:
My s10+ is with me since 2 or 3 weeks now
Now the adaptive power switches to medium power saving at just 68%
Is this correct?
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Should only do it under 25%
Notefan161 said:
Should only do it under 25%
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It was at 25% exactly when the phone was new
Now it switches randomly
From couple of days it switches at around 50% then today it switched at 68%
It switches based on your usage, if it notices your usage is lazy in certain apps or during certain hours of the day then it will enable power saving, it's nothing you have to worry about and it gets better with time.
Where are you seeing this information? The only thing I'm noticing is that my screen resolution keeps changing from the highest to medium. I'm getting great battery life and I'm never in a pinch so why it keeps changing is annoying more than anything.
Edit: I found it and turned it to high performance. Then I hesitated but turned on adaptive too. I'll watch it for a couple of days and may turn it off.
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Where are you seeing this information? The only thing I'm noticing is that my screen resolution keeps changing from the highest to medium. I'm getting great battery life and I'm never in a pinch so why it keeps changing is annoying more than anything.
Edit: I found it and turned it to high performance. Then I hesitated but turned on adaptive too. I'll watch it for a couple of days and may turn it off.
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You are seeing change in res and the phone switches to medium power saving mode and the default settings for this medium mode is FHD+ res
You need to change that then choose optimized again
Mohamad Gahed said:
You are seeing change in res and the phone switches to medium power saving mode and the default settings for this medium mode is FHD+ res
You need to change that then choose optimized again
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Turn off adaptive power saving, that thing automatically changes your power mode depending on your usage. When you turn it off it won't change your power mode anymore. View attachment 4735427
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minhajmsd said:
Turn off adaptive power saving, that thing automatically changes your power mode depending on your usage. When you turn it off it won't change your power mode anymore.
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I have done that and it is not switching anymore
But am wondering is the adaptive power mode have any other benefits than just switching?
Mohamad Gahed said:
I have done that and it is not switching anymore
But am wondering is the adaptive power mode have any other benefits than just switching?
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Don't think so, I think it just monitors your usage and changes the power mode accordingly. Annoying this is that it changes the resolution too which it says that it won't do.
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Mohamad Gahed said:
I have done that and it is not switching anymore
But am wondering is the adaptive power mode have any other benefits than just switching?
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There's another adaptive power mode feature integrated in Android, they work well together.
If you set your Medium power saving resolution to the one you use by default then there's absolutely no reason for you to keep Adaptive power saving disabled, you won't feel any performance loss yourself, launching a game or app that is known to need the full performance will automatically switch back to Optimal, I recommend you keep it on.
Corv0 said:
There's another adaptive power mode feature integrated in Android, they work well together.
If you set your Medium power saving resolution to the one you use by default then there's absolutely no reason for you to keep Adaptive power saving disabled, you won't feel any performance loss yourself, launching a game or app that is known to need the full performance will automatically switch back to Optimal, I recommend you keep it on.
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My only problem is that it limit the CPU to 70% with no need while the battery is very high
Yesterday I recharged my mobile and it kicked in at 90% battery heheheheeh
Mohamad Gahed said:
My only problem is that it limit the CPU to 70% with no need while the battery is very high
Yesterday I recharged my mobile and it kicked in at 90% battery heheheheeh
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Do you even need to hit the highest frequencies?
Corv0 said:
Do you even need to hit the highest frequencies?
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Not at all just it affects overall smoothness of the ui
And it does not really conserve my battery as I don't use the full CPU power even in optimized or high performance modes
Mohamad Gahed said:
Not at all just it affects overall smoothness of the ui
And it does not really conserve my battery as I don't use the full CPU power even in optimized or high performance modes
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But it doesn't, the UI isn't even skipping frames on medium power saving, are you sure it's not just placebo?
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But it doesn't, the UI isn't even skipping frames on medium power saving, are you sure it's not just placebo?
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I cant say for sure frankly
But it is not the ui it can be felt in some applications like Facebook for example or the xda forums app sometimes it skips frames when moving from page to page
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I cant say for sure frankly
But it is not the ui it can be felt in some applications like Facebook for example or the xda forums app sometimes it skips frames when moving from page to page
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Well yeah, badly optimised apps are going to feel the lower frequencies, I personally don't use those two and everything else has been fine.
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The way that I understand power saving mode is that it saves juice by changing backlight based on what is on the screen. However in order to do this it.means cpu would be constantly used. So does power saving mode really save juice? Is the amount of battery saved by changing backlight more than the battery used by constant cpu usage?
That's a good question but I highly doubt that they would add the feature if they didn't test that it actually saved power. But, stranger things have happened.
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That's a good question but I highly doubt that they would add the feature if they didn't test that it actually saved power. But, stranger things have happened.
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I assume you aren't basing that statement on recent events of failed quality control on high-end phones
No, it does not.
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No, it does not.
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And this is based on???
From what I have read, having power saving mode on is another process the cpu has to worry about therefore possibly causing more battery drain. Personally I have disabled power saving mode and auto brightness and have experienced a slight improvement in battery life. I use the slide on taskbar feature to adjust brightness manually.
I have both Power Saving Mode and Automatic Brightness on, 3G off, and I get over 40 hours in normal use! I hope that tells you these settings don't drain the battery and you shouldn't worry about having them turned on.
It is NOT putting an undue burden on the cpu, and small amounts of CPU usage have MUCH less effect than powering the screen.
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I have both Power Saving Mode and Automatic Brightness on, 3G off, and I get over 40 hours in normal use! I hope that tells you these settings don't drain the battery and you shouldn't worry about having them turned on.
It is NOT putting an undue burden on the cpu, and small amounts of CPU usage have MUCH less effect than powering the screen.
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I have to ask what is normal use for you? Cant imagine getting 40 hrs on any device besides a BBerry.
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I find that the 'auto settings' takes away from a session - screen dimming and back again. Swipe to adjust brightness seems to work fine. As far as I'm concerned, the Vibrant is running normal when usage puts Screen at 83% or so.. After all, we bought it for the display to begin with
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That's a good question but I highly doubt that they would add the feature if they didn't test that it actually saved power. But, stranger things have happened.
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They released the phone without doing adaquate testing on the GPS.
HTC released the G2 without turning it upside down & seeing the hinge go a flyin.
Just because they threw a feature in doesn't mean that it's been tested.
We're the testers
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I have to ask what is normal use for you? Cant imagine getting 40 hrs on any device besides a BBerry.
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He keeps is 3G off, thats what's saving the battery. That and he probably was sleeping for 16+ of those 40 hours.
Just an FYI, I have been running my phone on automatic brightness + power saving mode for the past few days as opposed to my usual lowest brightness + no power saving mode; and usually I would get inbetween 3.5-4 hours of screen time (depending on what I did) but now I am getting 4-4.5 hours (same usage). Obviously the automatic brightness does not improve battery life over lowest brightness all the time, so power saving mode must be doing something right -- something aside from just lowering screen brightness as needed.
That is a feature of 2.1 that is intended to help people with LED backlit screens by turning off LEDs in areas that are black. We have SAMOLEDS, which are lit by pixel, and we get battery battery life by using black themes. That is why Fusion 1.1 is nearly all black, and gets insane battery life.
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I have both Power Saving Mode and Automatic Brightness on, 3G off, and I get over 40 hours in normal use! I hope that tells you these settings don't drain the battery and you shouldn't worry about having them turned on.
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Actually, that doesn't tell us anything. What is your battery life like with Power Saving and Auto Brightness off?
I switched my Galaxy S5 (SM-900M ... NG3 july kernel stock ROM) to Power Saving Mode (not Ultra Power Saving Mode). Despite the default internet browsing being laggy even when doing simple tasks as scrolling Facebook, I don't see any noticeable gain in battery life. What's wrong with my phone? :crying:
Power saving isn't meant to be used while playing the internet....
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I switched my Galaxy S5 (SM-900M ... NG3 july kernel stock ROM) to Power Saving Mode (not Ultra Power Saving Mode). Despite the default internet browsing being laggy even when doing simple tasks as scrolling Facebook, I don't see any noticeable gain in battery life. What's wrong with my phone? :crying:
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Did you Restrict Background data, Restrict Performance and turned on gray scale mod in Power saving mode?
Masum56k said:
Did you Restrict Background data, Restrict Performance and turned on gray scale mod in Power saving mode?
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I selected every available option. The Power Saving Mode is very frustrating. I definately would like it to make my limited 4G experience a little bit longe on the S5. Power Saving Mode on a mobile device should be able to make your online time much longer...
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I selected every available option. The Power Saving Mode is very frustrating. I definately would like it to make my limited 4G experience a little bit longe on the S5. Power Saving Mode on a mobile device should be able to make your online time much longer...
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No, it won`t. It extends batterylife when the phone is in idle mode so you can use the phone for a longer period
In Settings>Battery it has three mode options = Power Save or Balanced or Performance
Does anybody know what changes these modes make to the system?
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In Settings>Battery it has three mode options = Power Save or Balanced or Performance
Does anybody know what changes these modes make to the system?
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i think power save should lower the cpu frequency (and maybe disable a couple of core), disable vibration, lower display refresh rate and stop background data traffic.
Balanced mode enable all of above and apply a middle way cpu profile, which will provide high power only when needed.
Performance mode will apply a full power profile which keeps cpu at the highest frequency.
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i think power save should lower the cpu frequency (and maybe disable a couple of core), disable vibration, lower display refresh rate and stop background data traffic.
Balanced mode enable all of above and apply a middle way cpu profile, which will provide high power only when needed.
Performance mode will apply a full power profile which keeps cpu at the highest frequency.
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They regulate how the kernel manage the CPU etc. And also it disables some animations on battery safe mode. Its bugged in cm13 but lower everything is working
Do they make much difference to the batter life?
Im using Balanced Mode right now and getting about 5-6 hours screen-on-time
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Do they make much difference to the batter life?
Im using Balanced Mode right now and getting about 5-6 hours screen-on-time
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Yes they help, the battery saving mode is pretty aggressive, it kills all apps in the background and disable all animation's. It helps a lot. The balanced mode is normal use. And performance omg it helps a lot in 3d games and benchmarks. Got 2000 points more in antutu with performance mode.
Precisely!
So I've been running cm 14.1 with elemental ex kernel for last 2 months and my sot was 2.30-3 hours, last week I disabled doze for chrome play music and downloads and surprisingly my sot has improved upto 4 hours, which has lead me to believe Doze may be rubbish after all
Haven't disabled doze and I get 5+ hrs SOT on Pure Nexus with EX kernel. Idle drain is minimal (.3-.5% per hr).
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So I've been running cm 14.1 with elemental ex kernel for last 2 months and my sot was 2.30-3 hours, last week I disabled doze for chrome play music and downloads and surprisingly my sot has improved upto 4 hours, which has lead me to believe Doze may be rubbish after all
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That was pretty much already confirmed. This is why most of us disable it for all apps. I am in the process of making a zip that disables it for every app.
Doze doesn't increase your SOT, it's not meant to. It's supposed to increase your screen off time.
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Doze doesn't increase your SOT, it's not meant to. It's supposed to increase your screen off time.
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If you disable it, then it can increase it. Just because it is not using the extra battery pretty much unfreezing the apps. Screen off time means absolutely nothing to users. They couldn't care less.
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If you disable it, then it can increase it. Just because it is not using the extra battery pretty much unfreezing the apps. Screen off time means absolutely nothing to users. They couldn't care less.
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I thought doze was supposed to increase screen off time (stand by) so you'll have battery when you're ready for screen on time.
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I thought doze was supposed to increase screen off time (stand by) so you'll have battery when you're ready for screen on time.
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What it does is puts many apps into a hibernate state. It was made to increase over all battery life but ended up doing the opposite because the device uses more battery when it has to release the app from the state. You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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What it does is puts many apps into a hibernate state. It was made to increase over all battery life but ended up doing the opposite because the device uses more battery when it has to release the app from the state. You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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Would definitely appreciate a zip to disable all installed apps. Doing it one by one is so tedious
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.....You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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It's a hassle. Great plan to create a 'turn off all' method.
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What about apps like ForceDoze or NapTime? Do they increase overall battery life or no?
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What about apps like ForceDoze or NapTime? Do they increase overall battery life or no?
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They may improve standby time, but what we are talking about is screen on time. By disabling doze, you'll get less standby, but more screen on
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They may improve standby time, but what we are talking about is screen on time. By disabling doze, you'll get less standby, but more screen on
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So I guess the ideal situation would be while screen on have doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up. Probably not.
Actually it didn't effected my stand by time either, only a drop of 2-3% overnight with WiFi on and notifications coming and notifications led on
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when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up.
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I have tried Tasker but gave up on it for its complexity and also because I have very few demands that require automation, but this looks like something it might be able to do. Are there any Tasker experts who could advise?
Do we have a setting to do this stuff
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Dopamin3 said:
.... doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode...
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After the update to N7.1.1 it was necessary to disable battery optimization again for all apps.
And also adding again: wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=400 in build.prop.
I think that it's useful to set a high scan value when doze mode is off.
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So I guess the ideal situation would be while screen on have doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up. Probably not.
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That is what doze does. Just with a timer. The battery drain comes from having to wake the apps back up again. Doze is completely worthless and defeats the meaning of having a smartphone for constant notifications.
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.....Doze is completely worthless and defeats the meaning of having a smartphone for constant notifications.
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.....and when you pick up your phone; many notifications appears at the same time. Clutter!
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.....and when you pick up your phone; many notifications appears at the same time. Clutter!
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Well that depends on how much you bloat your device. I at most have 5. 3 individual sms notification (removed bundling) Gmail and missed calls. Not really all that clutter.
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Well that depends on how much you bloat your device. I at most have 5. 3 individual sms notification (removed bundling) Gmail and missed calls. Not really all that clutter.
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Yep, overdone a bit; recently removed many unused stuff and changed to another mail client.
I can't find an automatic power saving option on my S7 Edge on Nougat for when the battery drops below a certain persentage (eg. 15% or 5%).
All I can find is just a notification (for 30%, 40% and 50%) that prompts me to "tap there" to enable power saving which then opens another window with power saving options, I need to tap one, it takes a dozen seconds for it to change the power profile.. it's a drag.
So I'm wondering if there's anything automatic for power saving (like in all Android phones since lollipop) or maybe I somehow turned it off?
My phone was on 13% battery and still didn't switch to power saving (just the notification to tap there to turn it on).
Same here. I also can not find the automatic power save setting on Galaxy S7 / Nougat. How lame if Samsung took default Android feature out.
I see power saving mode on mine just fine.
Settings - Device maintenance - Battery - Battery Usage - /3 points upper right corner/ Optimise battery usage
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I see power saving mode on mine just fine.
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The thread is about *automatic* power saving when the battery drops below a certain persentage. Please learn to read.
Pet1981 said:
Settings - Device maintenance - Battery - Battery Usage - /3 points upper right corner/ Optimise battery usage
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Yeah, that list is kind of useless from a user's side. Also unrelated to my question.
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The thread is about *automatic* power saving when the battery drops below a certain persentage. Please learn to read.
Yeah, that list is kind of useless from a user's side. Also unrelated to my question.
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Quite rude when people are trying to help.
So here's is a partial answer to my question: there is automatic power saving, it kicks in at 5% battery.
Anybody found an option to raise that 5% to 15% or 20%?
I checked everything battery and power saving related in settings and couldn't find it...
Device Maintenance> Battery.>App power monitor. There you can choose the apps you want to set power saving for and choose "Save Power".
It is not exactly the same as in vanilla Nougat, but if you want vanilla, Samsung is the wrong device.
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Device Maintenance> Battery.>App power monitor. There you can choose the apps you want to set power saving for and choose "Save Power".
It is not exactly the same as in vanilla Nougat, but if you want vanilla, Samsung is the wrong device.
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No, that's not at all what I'm asking or looking for.
I know about this list, it is also present in vanila android, and it is completely useless...
I'm looking for an option to set the automatic power saving mode to kick in on higher battery percentage (20% or 25% or 30%), basically anything above 5% what the default is.
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No, that's not at all what I'm asking or looking for.
I know about this list, it is also present in vanila android, and it is completely useless...
I'm looking for an option to set the automatic power saving mode to kick in on higher battery percentage (20% or 25% or 30%), basically anything above 5% what the default is.
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I understand what you are asking for because I myself would like the option, not sure why it's a manual process as seems daft to me.
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I understand what you are asking for because I myself would like the option, not sure why it's a manual process as seems daft to me.
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Right!? It's weird that auto-power saving only kicks in at 5% battery, but then again the battery is pretty impressive.
I'm getting used to manually turning on the power saving mode and tweaking the brightness if needed.
Yesterday I achieved 9 hours of screen on time, manually tweaking the phone as the battery drained.
Maybe they forgot the option with the 30/40/50% notification to also activate medium power saving.. a simple toggle is missing there :/
I hope they add it in a future update...
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Right!? It's weird that auto-power saving only kicks in at 5% battery, but then again the battery is pretty impressive.
I'm getting used to manually turning on the power saving mode and tweaking the brightness if needed.
Yesterday I achieved 9 hours of screen on time, manually tweaking the phone as the battery drained.
Maybe they forgot the option with the 30/40/50% notification to also activate medium power saving.. a simple toggle is missing there :/
I hope they add it in a future update...
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Yes the battery is pretty impressive and maybe they'll fix it like you say, hopefully!
I've not been one for power saving settings before but I like how this works, except for the one bug I've noticed is annoying me slightly.
When turning off the power saving and the resolution changes back from FHD to WQHD my keyboard (SwiftKey) size changes to really small so I have to adjust it each time; not sure if it's a bug or because the resolution is changing.
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Yes, it looks like they have added a short way to reach the power saving setting screen, but avoid an automatic activation of the mode, rather then at 5%.
To activate it easily and using that fast activation, you have to wait until you get a notification for low battery, then click on the notification and select manually MID or MAX.
I just loved the old fashion automatic power saving....
I noticed the same right after updating. It is extremely annoying. It's frustrating when useful options which used to exist are removed. "Updating" is meant to make stuff better after all...
I liked the 2 power saving options before the update. One decreased performance a little & my screen didn't change. It was a little slower and not as bright. It was perfect and it's gone. The other was Ultra Power Saving. Apps were very limited. It was great when I was in a crunch & couldn't charge it right away. The new "improved" Power Saving is horrible & I hate it!
Updated my S7 to Nougat, couple days and regretting the decision more and more everyday. Yesterday I've noticed hey I'm at 10% and not in power saving mode like why? Oh we thought it be great idea to kick in power saving mode automatically only at 5%.....
There is suppose to be a Battery Saver option that lets you choose between 15% or 5% when to automatically kick in power saver mode. But apparently Samsung removed this option?
Yes, I also hate this change...
If anyone has a link to a petition or something please post it. I used to go powersaving at 50% and kept my phone topped off, I hate even seeing 2x%.
And I dont see an ultra saving mode, you basically flip the customization options each time? I understand the concept -- but we all like to have the phone at full-everything at least for the glorious first 10% after charge.
Then OK for the next 40%.
Then frugal mode kicks in. Being frugal all the time is just no fun.
S7 user here, the same thing happened with android 7.0 update. Really miss the auto power saving feature... I had set it to kick in at 20% and it was what I needed to have my battery last for a whole day. Now with Nugat update the battery doesn't hold for whole day anymore because of this, what a shame!
So there is no option to set it to say extreme power saving when battery drops below 10 % ?
Nope
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