Does power saving mode really save juice? - Vibrant General

The way that I understand power saving mode is that it saves juice by changing backlight based on what is on the screen. However in order to do this it.means cpu would be constantly used. So does power saving mode really save juice? Is the amount of battery saved by changing backlight more than the battery used by constant cpu usage?

That's a good question but I highly doubt that they would add the feature if they didn't test that it actually saved power. But, stranger things have happened.

kangxi said:
That's a good question but I highly doubt that they would add the feature if they didn't test that it actually saved power. But, stranger things have happened.
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I assume you aren't basing that statement on recent events of failed quality control on high-end phones

No, it does not.

lemarg said:
No, it does not.
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And this is based on???

From what I have read, having power saving mode on is another process the cpu has to worry about therefore possibly causing more battery drain. Personally I have disabled power saving mode and auto brightness and have experienced a slight improvement in battery life. I use the slide on taskbar feature to adjust brightness manually.

I have both Power Saving Mode and Automatic Brightness on, 3G off, and I get over 40 hours in normal use! I hope that tells you these settings don't drain the battery and you shouldn't worry about having them turned on.
It is NOT putting an undue burden on the cpu, and small amounts of CPU usage have MUCH less effect than powering the screen.

steel_3d said:
I have both Power Saving Mode and Automatic Brightness on, 3G off, and I get over 40 hours in normal use! I hope that tells you these settings don't drain the battery and you shouldn't worry about having them turned on.
It is NOT putting an undue burden on the cpu, and small amounts of CPU usage have MUCH less effect than powering the screen.
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I have to ask what is normal use for you? Cant imagine getting 40 hrs on any device besides a BBerry.
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I find that the 'auto settings' takes away from a session - screen dimming and back again. Swipe to adjust brightness seems to work fine. As far as I'm concerned, the Vibrant is running normal when usage puts Screen at 83% or so.. After all, we bought it for the display to begin with

kangxi said:
That's a good question but I highly doubt that they would add the feature if they didn't test that it actually saved power. But, stranger things have happened.
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They released the phone without doing adaquate testing on the GPS.
HTC released the G2 without turning it upside down & seeing the hinge go a flyin.
Just because they threw a feature in doesn't mean that it's been tested.
We're the testers

intruda119 said:
I have to ask what is normal use for you? Cant imagine getting 40 hrs on any device besides a BBerry.
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He keeps is 3G off, thats what's saving the battery. That and he probably was sleeping for 16+ of those 40 hours.

Just an FYI, I have been running my phone on automatic brightness + power saving mode for the past few days as opposed to my usual lowest brightness + no power saving mode; and usually I would get inbetween 3.5-4 hours of screen time (depending on what I did) but now I am getting 4-4.5 hours (same usage). Obviously the automatic brightness does not improve battery life over lowest brightness all the time, so power saving mode must be doing something right -- something aside from just lowering screen brightness as needed.

That is a feature of 2.1 that is intended to help people with LED backlit screens by turning off LEDs in areas that are black. We have SAMOLEDS, which are lit by pixel, and we get battery battery life by using black themes. That is why Fusion 1.1 is nearly all black, and gets insane battery life.

steel_3d said:
I have both Power Saving Mode and Automatic Brightness on, 3G off, and I get over 40 hours in normal use! I hope that tells you these settings don't drain the battery and you shouldn't worry about having them turned on.
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Actually, that doesn't tell us anything. What is your battery life like with Power Saving and Auto Brightness off?

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I have a clue on the battery problem

Ok... I was big into kernels, processes, everything on my N1 so I am quite familiar with tracking battery life by different means. I can provide the following information:
At 11:20pm, my phone was at 100% and had moderate signal and was connected to WiFi - full strength.
At 5:50am, my phone was at 83% battery with NO USAGE, not even the screen turned on once.
My Battery Use had the Android System at the top of the usage with ~30% usage. The CPU Usage was over 1h 30m!
The above is extremely odd since I didn't touch the phone. My N1 would've been <2 min.
In the Battery History CPU Usage section, SUSPEND was the only item with red and it was roughly 15% full.
The SUSPEND function, I believe, is the controller that suspends the functions of the phone so it can go to sleep. It should never use this much battery.
There are tons of packages in the Battery Use screen, which is weird. Some of the ones are: Settings Storage, RilFactoryApp, com.sec.android.app.lcdtest, AllShare, Error, Checkin Service, BluetoothTest, Perso, BrcmBluetoothServices, Com.samsung.InputEventApp, Sync Feeds, Settings, Factory Test, Network Location, VPN Services, Android System, WlanTest
A lot of these items (and more) show up in Advanced Task Manager, and they never existed on my N1.
I believe that destroying these services via ATM greatly improves battery life (even though generally it isn't needed in Android). After killing them all and keeping an eye on it, only 2 or 3 have respawned and my CPU usage is <1m which proportionally is much lower than the former experience.
Anyone have any ideas or input?
I've been trying to figure this out also...each battery had its on date on it..my first battery was june 21...my current one is june 28...my 6/28 battery also had a little qr barcode on it....
The 6/21 battery was pretty awful...today I'll be using my 6/28 battery for the first time...it was charged at 39% and 10 hours later overnight...it only lost 10% and is at 29% now...i must say that's pretty good because I was certain it would be dead in the morning. I'm gonna test it the next couple of days and see how it holds up....our issues may be as simple as getting the right production of batteries...wouldn't that be a relief? Lol
Or....i could just be crazy
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My only battery weirdness is that I turned off autobrightness and cranked the brightness and my battery life dramatically improved. Would get home form work and have 30%, now I have something like 50%...
No clue why unless using the light sensor or making the adjustments uses more juice than it should.
popypopy said:
My only battery weirdness is that I turned off autobrightness and cranked the brightness and my battery life dramatically improved. Would get home form work and have 30%, now I have something like 50%...
No clue why unless using the light sensor or making the adjustments uses more juice than it should.
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This isn't relevant to these problems though as I'm talking about standby time.
Oh and my android system is only at 3%
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Anyone else have any ideas?
good idea
I think it is a good idea to track running tasks.
Let us create a list of tasks for stock apps and the most often used off the market ones. Then everybody could decide for herself what apps to run. Being able to compare function and price (here battery drainage) is a great thing. The list might contain:
name of the app | the name as appeared in task managers | function | typical power drainage (high, moderate, low, or how many hours will battery last if only the app were running)
I think, the top post could be moderated as needed appropriately.
I don't know, but my battery life is pretty bad. Today I had the phone connected to my laptop via USB, and my laptop connected to the wall. I was using the phone and my battery percentage was STILL going down, even though it was plugged in!
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ArcticWolf91 said:
I don't know, but my battery life is pretty bad. Today I had the phone connected to my laptop via USB, and my laptop connected to the wall. I was using the phone and my battery percentage was STILL going down, even though it was plugged in!
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Well USB will always charge slow...
hah2110 said:
Well USB will always charge slow...
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Always plug the phone into the wall if you can. The USB from the laptop doesn't charge at the same rate.
I kill all my running apps that I don't need with ATM, then rid all unnecessary widgets, turn the brightness off of auto and on the lowest setting you prefer, turn off GSP, turn off Wifi, turn off Bluetooth and noticed a huge improvement.
iunlock said:
Always plug the phone into the wall if you can. The USB from the laptop doesn't charge at the same rate.
I kill all my running apps that I don't need with ATM, then rid all unnecessary widgets, turn the brightness off of auto and on the lowest setting you prefer, turn off GSP, turn off Wifi, turn off Bluetooth and noticed a huge improvement.
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Now you just need to reduce screen size by 80%, get rid of the touch interface and you have a Nokia 6110. I guaranty 7 days until the battery drains.
Some other ways to deal with battery life are:
a. Get a second battery.
b. Charge the damn thing once in a while.
That way, you can actually enjoy the smartphone and think less about killing processes and *****ing how bad the battery life is on forums.
I just rooted my Vibrant the other day and installed setCPU. I set the max to 800 and the min to 200 using the conservative setting and i noticed much better battery life the very next day. Having a 1ghz processor is awesome but it seems that default settings for this phone probably has it running at the rate possibly when the screen is off also.
al74 said:
Now you just need to reduce screen size by 80%, get rid of the touch interface and you have a Nokia 6110. I guaranty 7 days until the battery drains.
Some other ways to deal with battery life are:
a. Get a second battery.
b. Charge the damn thing once in a while.
That way, you can actually enjoy the smartphone and think less about killing processes and *****ing how bad the battery life is on forums.
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I'd have to go with this. Just some common sense will go along way. If you dont absolutely need the GPS, bluetooth, or WiFi turn them off (the phone even gives you a widget for it...). Even with the brightness at 0% its still darn bright.
Sure it requires a bit more input from the user but its still a darn good device.
popypopy said:
My only battery weirdness is that I turned off autobrightness and cranked the brightness and my battery life dramatically improved. Would get home form work and have 30%, now I have something like 50%...
No clue why unless using the light sensor or making the adjustments uses more juice than it should.
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Thats what i did and my battery life improved alot.

What sucks YOUR battery?

I have epic 4g now for a week. Its still not activated, just sits at home connected to wifi - while I use touch pro2, awaiting sero plus on oct 1st.
There is push sync with hotmail and google. I get home and play almost constantly with the phone from 5 to 11pm - testing new apps/games, reading twitter etc - before I get low battery warning.
My biggest surprise was that the SCREEN (supposedly high efficency AMOLED) is draining more than 40% of the battery! Not the wifi, not the cpu or whatever else is inside. This is with default power managment settings.
What numbers do you guys get in the end of the day? What are you using - 3g,4g,wifi,gps,apps?
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Sometimes mine goes as high as 72%, and that's the screen alone, and i have the brightness down all the way to zero (and even at zero it's still plenty viewable).
Definitely the screen is the biggest battery drainer. I've NEVER seen anything higher usage than the Display. Its usually in the 60-80% of battery usage.
And I keep the power to the lowest setting on a daily basis.
The screen is always the biggest offender. Usually in the 70%+ range with brightness all he way down. The samoled talk is just marketing bs. Maybe better performance when the screen is black. Unfortunately all black backgrounds happen to be the minority on websites, applications etc.
Display used to be the main offender on my phone (60-70%) but since I upgraded to DI07, Cell Standby is crushing my battery. The airplane toggle doesn't do ****, had to buy a cable so I can plug it in at work just so at the end of an 8hr day I have more than 30% battery left even with JuiceDefender running. Getting pretty frustrated.
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Display used to be the main offender on my phone (60-70%) but since I upgraded to DI07, Cell Standby is crushing my battery. The airplane toggle doesn't do ****, had to buy a cable so I can plug it in at work just so at the end of an 8hr day I have more than 30% battery left even with JuiceDefender running. Getting pretty frustrated.
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I have this exact same issue. Cell standby is killing my battery. Right now I have 18% time without signal... it has been as high as 25% before. I never had this issue before DI07.
Cell Standby is 41%, with Display at 32%, time without signal is a whopping 50%, and I get near-full to full bars at work and about 2-3 at home.
my cell standby was over 50% after the update. I went in and changed my call setting>System select and chose "sprint only" which will not allow the phone to roam, but it got rid of this battery drain. I have a lot more battery now. But i will have to turn it back whenever i loose service. There's got to be a better way to avoid this thing always looking for the GSM towers when it's a SPRINT PHONE and should for CDMA unless there's no signal. I don't understand how they allow such a dumb issue to haunt tihs phone.
My current numbers:
Cell Standby: 34%
Phone idle: 25%
Display: 17%
Android System: 10%
Email: 5%
Maps: 3%
Dialer: 2%
Wi-fi: 2%
Android OS: 2%
Cell standby has gone up for me since the update, but my last charge was actually the first time I saw any significant "time without signal", and I think that was because I had 4G turned on all day. I have it turned off now and that number is back to 0%.
I'm learning some tricks to keep the battery charged on this thing. Yesterday I managed to go all day from waking up to going to sleep without charging (around 18 hours, though I rebooted at one point so I'm not sure the actual total) and I still had about 1/5 of my battery gauge left.
I've found wi-fi makes a HUGE difference. I have wi-fi both at home and at work, and that's probably 80% of an average day for me. Wi-fi drains the battery *much* less than 3G.
I have my screen turned down not to 0, but probably 2 ticks over that. I use the notification bar swipe to turn it up or down, so I don't know exactly, I just set it to as dim as I'm comfortable with in any situation. Power mode and auto-brightness are turned off.
I switched my background from the default to one that's very dark. I'm convinced that makes a big difference.
I do use a task killer, but I leave my email running, along with whatever else seems like it should be kept running.
Obviously when you look at percentages, there's always going to be *something* at the top of the list, so it's pointless to constantly try to knock whatever's #1 down to the bottom. Different people use their phones differently, so if someone else has their display at the top, it just means they're looking at it a lot and maybe have it too bright. But no matter what you do, something's always going to have a higher percentage than anything else.
badasscat said:
My current numbers:
Cell Standby: 34%
Phone idle: 25%
Display: 17%
Android System: 10%
Email: 5%
Maps: 3%
Dialer: 2%
Wi-fi: 2%
Android OS: 2%
Cell standby has gone up for me since the update, but my last charge was actually the first time I saw any significant "time without signal", and I think that was because I had 4G turned on all day. I have it turned off now and that number is back to 0%.
I'm learning some tricks to keep the battery charged on this thing. Yesterday I managed to go all day from waking up to going to sleep without charging (around 18 hours, though I rebooted at one point so I'm not sure the actual total) and I still had about 1/5 of my battery gauge left.
I've found wi-fi makes a HUGE difference. I have wi-fi both at home and at work, and that's probably 80% of an average day for me. Wi-fi drains the battery *much* less than 3G.
I have my screen turned down not to 0, but probably 2 ticks over that. I use the notification bar swipe to turn it up or down, so I don't know exactly, I just set it to as dim as I'm comfortable with in any situation. Power mode and auto-brightness are turned off.
I switched my background from the default to one that's very dark. I'm convinced that makes a big difference.
I do use a task killer, but I leave my email running, along with whatever else seems like it should be kept running.
Obviously when you look at percentages, there's always going to be *something* at the top of the list, so it's pointless to constantly try to knock whatever's #1 down to the bottom. Different people use their phones differently, so if someone else has their display at the top, it just means they're looking at it a lot and maybe have it too bright. But no matter what you do, something's always going to have a higher percentage than anything else.
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How are you able to control the brightness with the notification swipe? I've made it brighter but not dimmer.
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So for all the people that have their phone on the lowest brightness, but get a Display usage >50%...are you using your phone that much?
Because I have my display on auto, and my Display usage is a 32%, and that is still enough for it to be #1 on my battery use list.
First, let me get the immature response out of the way: "What sucks my battery? Your MOM!"
Now that that's out of my system, my battery drain is generally caused by the same things as everyone else: screen and TWS. Although I mitigate TWS by using the airplane mode trick which seems to still work for me.
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How are you able to control the brightness with the notification swipe? I've made it brighter but not dimmer.
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I dunno, I just do. The way the thing works is a little tricky, it seems like it's absolute rather than relative, meaning if your display is already on the dim side, you need to start with your finger way over to the left to take it down the last few ticks. There's only so dim you can make it - the lowest brightness setting would look like a 4 or 5 year old phone at its brightest. That's true regardless of how you dim it. So you may just have it pretty dim and because of the way the notification bar thing works, when you put your finger in the middle, you're making it brighter without meaning to. But if you slide all the way to the left, it'll be as dim as you can make it.
jemarent said:
my cell standby was over 50% after the update. I went in and changed my call setting>System select and chose "sprint only" which will not allow the phone to roam, but it got rid of this battery drain. I have a lot more battery now. But i will have to turn it back whenever i loose service. There's got to be a better way to avoid this thing always looking for the GSM towers when it's a SPRINT PHONE and should for CDMA unless there's no signal. I don't understand how they allow such a dumb issue to haunt tihs phone.
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+1 to this, after I changed this setting my time without signal is about 3% before it was up in the 50's. Good tip right there
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I guess this is a commom issue... Unless epics hardware is sooo optimized and only sips power ;-)
Does anybody have data from other android phones - nexus, droids...?
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3-4 hours of talk time takes up 70% of my use during a 10-16 hour usage. Second would be my screen.
My screen is 79% and cell standby only 7%
My screen is all the way down, even tho with the new update I notice my screen got dimmer than before.
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Improve your Xoom's battery drain/standby substantially!

This app has made my battery last 4-5 days instead of 2. It is called Auto Airplane Mode by DON. It does just that, automatically enables airplane mode when the screen turns off. Most battery drain occurs while in "standby." This app shuts all connections off and saves a big chunk of battery.
I am sure it will work for your phone too, but since you receive calls on a phone it would kinda defeat the purpose.
Here is a link to the android market.
z06mike said:
...Most battery drain occurs while in "standby."...
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Stange, most of the battery drain on my Xoom occurs when the screen is on.
laredo7mm said:
Stange, most of the battery drain on my Xoom occurs when the screen is on.
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The screen accounts for most battery usage but some still occurs when the screen is off due to apps trying to sync.
okantomi said:
The screen accounts for most battery usage but some still occurs when the screen is off due to apps trying to sync.
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So we agree. Most of the battery drain happens when the screen is on.
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Most battery drain occurs while in "standby."
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In theory this is a helpful app for those who aren't looking to sync devices during these intervals of having the screen off.
But I think in the case of the WiFi only Xoom this isnt necessary because WiFi turns off during screen off anyway right?
And on 3G it may prove to be more helpful because of sync. But the number one killer of battery on a tablet should be the display.
Anyway, good call for the app. Thanks for sharing with the community.
I dunno I don't experience that much battery drain, I been getting around 4 days with causal use (wifi model)
...and why would you want to be in air plane mode when the screen turns off on your phone?? You wont be able to receive phone calls or messages. mind as well turn off the phone at that point lol
But at least we have no Amoled-display. Amoled is the most consuming type of display.
tincbtrar said:
In theory this is a helpful app for those who aren't looking to sync devices during these intervals of having the screen off.
But I think in the case of the WiFi only Xoom this isnt necessary because WiFi turns off during screen off anyway right?
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No, you have a choice and HC3.2 has a bug that can cause random reboots unless wifi sleep policy is set to never. Don't know how this would affect that issue.
In moray rom it is one touch on/off(notification area)
so,while watching movies or listening songs one can turn off the wi-fi.
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Stange, most of the battery drain on my Xoom occurs when the screen is on.
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I worded that wrong. Obviously, your battery will drain more WHEN YOU ARE USING IT and the screen is on.
For many people, myself included, the "standby" battery loss/drain is excessive. This app helps A TON with that.
Mike the majority of understand you what you mean.
Some tablets spend most of their time and energy "waiting" to be used.
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I can't complain too much about my battery life. My Wifi is always on 24/7 even when the screen is off or I am not using it. I like to be notified at all times, ya know. My CPU speed is way underclocked with the screen off so I get a killer standby time regardless. I don't even notice any kind of battery drain at all really with my Wifi always on, but a good tip nonetheless.
Underclocking is an amazing way to save battery life when you are not using it, or even when you are using it. For root users only, of course. If one were to be rooted that is what I would reccommend the most for someone looking to save battery life. Underclocking+undervolting makes for a power saving beast. Even more so than just disabling all connections.
But, combine auto airplane mode/Wifi screen off and underclocking+undervolting, and you have the ultimate power saver. If you don't need to get emails or notifications of any type this would be perfect for you considering the fact that all connections would be disabled.

Auto power saving in Nougat?

I can't find an automatic power saving option on my S7 Edge on Nougat for when the battery drops below a certain persentage (eg. 15% or 5%).
All I can find is just a notification (for 30%, 40% and 50%) that prompts me to "tap there" to enable power saving which then opens another window with power saving options, I need to tap one, it takes a dozen seconds for it to change the power profile.. it's a drag.
So I'm wondering if there's anything automatic for power saving (like in all Android phones since lollipop) or maybe I somehow turned it off?
My phone was on 13% battery and still didn't switch to power saving (just the notification to tap there to turn it on).
Same here. I also can not find the automatic power save setting on Galaxy S7 / Nougat. How lame if Samsung took default Android feature out.
I see power saving mode on mine just fine.
Settings - Device maintenance - Battery - Battery Usage - /3 points upper right corner/ Optimise battery usage
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Szadzik said:
I see power saving mode on mine just fine.
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The thread is about *automatic* power saving when the battery drops below a certain persentage. Please learn to read.
Pet1981 said:
Settings - Device maintenance - Battery - Battery Usage - /3 points upper right corner/ Optimise battery usage
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Yeah, that list is kind of useless from a user's side. Also unrelated to my question.
atirage said:
The thread is about *automatic* power saving when the battery drops below a certain persentage. Please learn to read.
Yeah, that list is kind of useless from a user's side. Also unrelated to my question.
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Quite rude when people are trying to help.
So here's is a partial answer to my question: there is automatic power saving, it kicks in at 5% battery.
Anybody found an option to raise that 5% to 15% or 20%?
I checked everything battery and power saving related in settings and couldn't find it...
Device Maintenance> Battery.>App power monitor. There you can choose the apps you want to set power saving for and choose "Save Power".
It is not exactly the same as in vanilla Nougat, but if you want vanilla, Samsung is the wrong device.
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Device Maintenance> Battery.>App power monitor. There you can choose the apps you want to set power saving for and choose "Save Power".
It is not exactly the same as in vanilla Nougat, but if you want vanilla, Samsung is the wrong device.
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No, that's not at all what I'm asking or looking for.
I know about this list, it is also present in vanila android, and it is completely useless...
I'm looking for an option to set the automatic power saving mode to kick in on higher battery percentage (20% or 25% or 30%), basically anything above 5% what the default is.
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No, that's not at all what I'm asking or looking for.
I know about this list, it is also present in vanila android, and it is completely useless...
I'm looking for an option to set the automatic power saving mode to kick in on higher battery percentage (20% or 25% or 30%), basically anything above 5% what the default is.
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I understand what you are asking for because I myself would like the option, not sure why it's a manual process as seems daft to me.
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I understand what you are asking for because I myself would like the option, not sure why it's a manual process as seems daft to me.
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Right!? It's weird that auto-power saving only kicks in at 5% battery, but then again the battery is pretty impressive.
I'm getting used to manually turning on the power saving mode and tweaking the brightness if needed.
Yesterday I achieved 9 hours of screen on time, manually tweaking the phone as the battery drained.
Maybe they forgot the option with the 30/40/50% notification to also activate medium power saving.. a simple toggle is missing there :/
I hope they add it in a future update...
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Right!? It's weird that auto-power saving only kicks in at 5% battery, but then again the battery is pretty impressive.
I'm getting used to manually turning on the power saving mode and tweaking the brightness if needed.
Yesterday I achieved 9 hours of screen on time, manually tweaking the phone as the battery drained.
Maybe they forgot the option with the 30/40/50% notification to also activate medium power saving.. a simple toggle is missing there :/
I hope they add it in a future update...
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Yes the battery is pretty impressive and maybe they'll fix it like you say, hopefully!
I've not been one for power saving settings before but I like how this works, except for the one bug I've noticed is annoying me slightly.
When turning off the power saving and the resolution changes back from FHD to WQHD my keyboard (SwiftKey) size changes to really small so I have to adjust it each time; not sure if it's a bug or because the resolution is changing.
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Yes, it looks like they have added a short way to reach the power saving setting screen, but avoid an automatic activation of the mode, rather then at 5%.
To activate it easily and using that fast activation, you have to wait until you get a notification for low battery, then click on the notification and select manually MID or MAX.
I just loved the old fashion automatic power saving....
I noticed the same right after updating. It is extremely annoying. It's frustrating when useful options which used to exist are removed. "Updating" is meant to make stuff better after all...
I liked the 2 power saving options before the update. One decreased performance a little & my screen didn't change. It was a little slower and not as bright. It was perfect and it's gone. The other was Ultra Power Saving. Apps were very limited. It was great when I was in a crunch & couldn't charge it right away. The new "improved" Power Saving is horrible & I hate it!
Updated my S7 to Nougat, couple days and regretting the decision more and more everyday. Yesterday I've noticed hey I'm at 10% and not in power saving mode like why? Oh we thought it be great idea to kick in power saving mode automatically only at 5%.....
There is suppose to be a Battery Saver option that lets you choose between 15% or 5% when to automatically kick in power saver mode. But apparently Samsung removed this option?
Yes, I also hate this change...
If anyone has a link to a petition or something please post it. I used to go powersaving at 50% and kept my phone topped off, I hate even seeing 2x%.
And I dont see an ultra saving mode, you basically flip the customization options each time? I understand the concept -- but we all like to have the phone at full-everything at least for the glorious first 10% after charge.
Then OK for the next 40%.
Then frugal mode kicks in. Being frugal all the time is just no fun.
S7 user here, the same thing happened with android 7.0 update. Really miss the auto power saving feature... I had set it to kick in at 20% and it was what I needed to have my battery last for a whole day. Now with Nugat update the battery doesn't hold for whole day anymore because of this, what a shame!
So there is no option to set it to say extreme power saving when battery drops below 10 % ?
Nope
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s10+ switches to medium power saving at 68% battery?!

My s10+ is with me since 2 or 3 weeks now
Now the adaptive power switches to medium power saving at just 68%
Is this correct?
Mohamad Gahed said:
My s10+ is with me since 2 or 3 weeks now
Now the adaptive power switches to medium power saving at just 68%
Is this correct?
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Should only do it under 25%
Notefan161 said:
Should only do it under 25%
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It was at 25% exactly when the phone was new
Now it switches randomly
From couple of days it switches at around 50% then today it switched at 68%
It switches based on your usage, if it notices your usage is lazy in certain apps or during certain hours of the day then it will enable power saving, it's nothing you have to worry about and it gets better with time.
Where are you seeing this information? The only thing I'm noticing is that my screen resolution keeps changing from the highest to medium. I'm getting great battery life and I'm never in a pinch so why it keeps changing is annoying more than anything.
Edit: I found it and turned it to high performance. Then I hesitated but turned on adaptive too. I'll watch it for a couple of days and may turn it off.
VidJunky said:
Where are you seeing this information? The only thing I'm noticing is that my screen resolution keeps changing from the highest to medium. I'm getting great battery life and I'm never in a pinch so why it keeps changing is annoying more than anything.
Edit: I found it and turned it to high performance. Then I hesitated but turned on adaptive too. I'll watch it for a couple of days and may turn it off.
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You are seeing change in res and the phone switches to medium power saving mode and the default settings for this medium mode is FHD+ res
You need to change that then choose optimized again
Mohamad Gahed said:
You are seeing change in res and the phone switches to medium power saving mode and the default settings for this medium mode is FHD+ res
You need to change that then choose optimized again
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Turn off adaptive power saving, that thing automatically changes your power mode depending on your usage. When you turn it off it won't change your power mode anymore. View attachment 4735427
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minhajmsd said:
Turn off adaptive power saving, that thing automatically changes your power mode depending on your usage. When you turn it off it won't change your power mode anymore.
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I have done that and it is not switching anymore
But am wondering is the adaptive power mode have any other benefits than just switching?
Mohamad Gahed said:
I have done that and it is not switching anymore
But am wondering is the adaptive power mode have any other benefits than just switching?
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Don't think so, I think it just monitors your usage and changes the power mode accordingly. Annoying this is that it changes the resolution too which it says that it won't do.
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Mohamad Gahed said:
I have done that and it is not switching anymore
But am wondering is the adaptive power mode have any other benefits than just switching?
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There's another adaptive power mode feature integrated in Android, they work well together.
If you set your Medium power saving resolution to the one you use by default then there's absolutely no reason for you to keep Adaptive power saving disabled, you won't feel any performance loss yourself, launching a game or app that is known to need the full performance will automatically switch back to Optimal, I recommend you keep it on.
Corv0 said:
There's another adaptive power mode feature integrated in Android, they work well together.
If you set your Medium power saving resolution to the one you use by default then there's absolutely no reason for you to keep Adaptive power saving disabled, you won't feel any performance loss yourself, launching a game or app that is known to need the full performance will automatically switch back to Optimal, I recommend you keep it on.
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My only problem is that it limit the CPU to 70% with no need while the battery is very high
Yesterday I recharged my mobile and it kicked in at 90% battery heheheheeh
Mohamad Gahed said:
My only problem is that it limit the CPU to 70% with no need while the battery is very high
Yesterday I recharged my mobile and it kicked in at 90% battery heheheheeh
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Do you even need to hit the highest frequencies?
Corv0 said:
Do you even need to hit the highest frequencies?
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Not at all just it affects overall smoothness of the ui
And it does not really conserve my battery as I don't use the full CPU power even in optimized or high performance modes
Mohamad Gahed said:
Not at all just it affects overall smoothness of the ui
And it does not really conserve my battery as I don't use the full CPU power even in optimized or high performance modes
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But it doesn't, the UI isn't even skipping frames on medium power saving, are you sure it's not just placebo?
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But it doesn't, the UI isn't even skipping frames on medium power saving, are you sure it's not just placebo?
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I cant say for sure frankly
But it is not the ui it can be felt in some applications like Facebook for example or the xda forums app sometimes it skips frames when moving from page to page
Mohamad Gahed said:
I cant say for sure frankly
But it is not the ui it can be felt in some applications like Facebook for example or the xda forums app sometimes it skips frames when moving from page to page
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Well yeah, badly optimised apps are going to feel the lower frequencies, I personally don't use those two and everything else has been fine.

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