Doze is a hoax - Nexus 6 General

So I've been running cm 14.1 with elemental ex kernel for last 2 months and my sot was 2.30-3 hours, last week I disabled doze for chrome play music and downloads and surprisingly my sot has improved upto 4 hours, which has lead me to believe Doze may be rubbish after all

Haven't disabled doze and I get 5+ hrs SOT on Pure Nexus with EX kernel. Idle drain is minimal (.3-.5% per hr).
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Yasharkhan said:
So I've been running cm 14.1 with elemental ex kernel for last 2 months and my sot was 2.30-3 hours, last week I disabled doze for chrome play music and downloads and surprisingly my sot has improved upto 4 hours, which has lead me to believe Doze may be rubbish after all
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That was pretty much already confirmed. This is why most of us disable it for all apps. I am in the process of making a zip that disables it for every app.

Doze doesn't increase your SOT, it's not meant to. It's supposed to increase your screen off time.

donjuro said:
Doze doesn't increase your SOT, it's not meant to. It's supposed to increase your screen off time.
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If you disable it, then it can increase it. Just because it is not using the extra battery pretty much unfreezing the apps. Screen off time means absolutely nothing to users. They couldn't care less.

zelendel said:
If you disable it, then it can increase it. Just because it is not using the extra battery pretty much unfreezing the apps. Screen off time means absolutely nothing to users. They couldn't care less.
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I thought doze was supposed to increase screen off time (stand by) so you'll have battery when you're ready for screen on time.

kwdan said:
I thought doze was supposed to increase screen off time (stand by) so you'll have battery when you're ready for screen on time.
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What it does is puts many apps into a hibernate state. It was made to increase over all battery life but ended up doing the opposite because the device uses more battery when it has to release the app from the state. You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.

zelendel said:
What it does is puts many apps into a hibernate state. It was made to increase over all battery life but ended up doing the opposite because the device uses more battery when it has to release the app from the state. You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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Would definitely appreciate a zip to disable all installed apps. Doing it one by one is so tedious

zelendel said:
.....You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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It's a hassle. Great plan to create a 'turn off all' method.
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What about apps like ForceDoze or NapTime? Do they increase overall battery life or no?

Dopamin3 said:
What about apps like ForceDoze or NapTime? Do they increase overall battery life or no?
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They may improve standby time, but what we are talking about is screen on time. By disabling doze, you'll get less standby, but more screen on

dictionary said:
They may improve standby time, but what we are talking about is screen on time. By disabling doze, you'll get less standby, but more screen on
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So I guess the ideal situation would be while screen on have doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up. Probably not.

Actually it didn't effected my stand by time either, only a drop of 2-3% overnight with WiFi on and notifications coming and notifications led on

Dopamin3 said:
when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up.
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I have tried Tasker but gave up on it for its complexity and also because I have very few demands that require automation, but this looks like something it might be able to do. Are there any Tasker experts who could advise?

Do we have a setting to do this stuff
Running stock Android 7.1.1
Bootloader locked

Dopamin3 said:
.... doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode...
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After the update to N7.1.1 it was necessary to disable battery optimization again for all apps.
And also adding again: wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=400 in build.prop.
I think that it's useful to set a high scan value when doze mode is off.

Dopamin3 said:
So I guess the ideal situation would be while screen on have doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up. Probably not.
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That is what doze does. Just with a timer. The battery drain comes from having to wake the apps back up again. Doze is completely worthless and defeats the meaning of having a smartphone for constant notifications.

zelendel said:
.....Doze is completely worthless and defeats the meaning of having a smartphone for constant notifications.
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.....and when you pick up your phone; many notifications appears at the same time. Clutter!

NLBeev said:
.....and when you pick up your phone; many notifications appears at the same time. Clutter!
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Well that depends on how much you bloat your device. I at most have 5. 3 individual sms notification (removed bundling) Gmail and missed calls. Not really all that clutter.

zelendel said:
Well that depends on how much you bloat your device. I at most have 5. 3 individual sms notification (removed bundling) Gmail and missed calls. Not really all that clutter.
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Yep, overdone a bit; recently removed many unused stuff and changed to another mail client.

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[fix] battery drain on 44s

Hello, after updating to 44S from 38R I had noticed that the battery has been draining faster than normal. By looking at the battery stats I saw that Android OS using most of the battery at some point going up to 70%.
I have found a fix for this problem but you will need ROOT and have XPOSED installed.
1. download and install XPOSED
2. Download and install this module : http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-nlpunbounce-reduce-nlp-wakelocks-t2853874
3. Activate in the modules and reboot.
4. Open Amplify and you may have to pay the developer $2 to unlock full features.
5. Under wakelocks press on "LocationManagerService" and active control this wakelock leave it to 240 seconds default.
After enabling this I have noticed no more battery drain and haven't seen android OS draining battery in the battery stats.
Thanks to Cryptyk for his xposed module
Remember to hit thanks.
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an easier fix, if your rumming CM 44s, is go into the Apps Ops and disable "Keep Awake, Wake Up, Auto Start" on certain that drains battery... I have 1% drain per hour while on idle/standby...
Currently, 11hrs total time, 1 hr SoT and 10hrs idle/standby..
gd6noob said:
an easier fix, if your rumming CM 44s, is go into the Apps Ops and disable "Keep Awake, Wake Up, Auto Start" on certain that drains battery... I have 1% drain per hour while on idle/standby...
Currently, 11hrs total time, 1 hr SoT and 10hrs idle/standby..
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Exactly what i have done..
gd6noob said:
an easier fix, if your rumming CM 44s, is go into the Apps Ops and disable "Keep Awake, Wake Up, Auto Start" on certain that drains battery... I have 1% drain per hour while on idle/standby...
Currently, 11hrs total time, 1 hr SoT and 10hrs idle/standby..
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Where's apps ops?
acegolfer said:
Where's apps ops?
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Go to settings then privacy and then privacy guard. There you can check what is waking your phone and stop which ones you want.
acegolfer said:
Where's apps ops?
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I used Caulkins CM11 44S, and its just Settings > Privacy > Apps Ops
Much easier fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2832525
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acegolfer said:
Where's apps ops?
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I'm also using the Calkulin's stock rooted CM 44S and the Google Play services have a lot of wake ups. To disable them, you must go to : Settings -> Privacy -> Privacy Guard -> Press menu button -> Advanced -> Google Play services . Then disable what gd6noob said : Keep Awake, Wake Up, Auto Start.
PS: You can do this for other draining battery apps/services too.
timmaaa said:
Much easier fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2832525
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lol, isnt that the way I wrote? :cyclops:
I went thru the entire list and disable all apps except for stuff I use regulatory... took awhile... 1% per hour drain on idle is pretty darn good..
gd6noob said:
lol, isnt that the way I wrote? :cyclops:
I went thru the entire list and disable all apps except for stuff I use regulatory... took awhile... 1% per hour drain on idle is pretty darn good..
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Yes it is. I was just referring to a guide I've had written for months.
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gd6noob said:
lol, isnt that the way I wrote? :cyclops:
I went thru the entire list and disable all apps except for stuff I use regulatory... took awhile... 1% per hour drain on idle is pretty darn good..
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Is there a way to back up these changes made and reapply them after you flash another ROM or even after flashing cm11s again instead of manually doing it again as, like you said, it can take quite a while to do it lol
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Wafflez_SE said:
Exactly what i have done..
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What specific settings do you use.
44S is getting great battery life without any tampering or "fixes." I lose 1-2% overnight with wifi off and generally 6-7 hours of screen on time with 25% battery remaining in a very heavy use day. IMO most people would be well served just doing a factory reset rather than making unnecessary changes to their ROMs.
Alright, so I have 4.4.4 for the last two days now, and followed Timmee's directions and here as well. I also disabled notifications from Play Services as I was getting the "Play Services has stopped" messaging.
I've rebooted and waited about an hour.
I checked into my Setting/Apps and see that I have 3 Play Services running, and as I look at them, two of them have one process and 1 service, and the other one process and 3 services?
I'd think PS would only have one process, and what-ever service number it needs?
Wafflez_SE said:
Exactly what i have done..
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Does not work for me. Trying to dissable those settings that keep phone awake cause problem to stuff like Youtube. Basically if i play Youtube the phone will go to sleep.

I don't think Doze is working at all on the S7

I'm having somewhat higher than expected idle drain. After 7 hours of sleep, my battery has drained down to 93% from a full charge. The last Android I owned was the HTC One M7, and then had the iPhone 6 and the 6S the past 1.5 years and neither of the phones experienced this high of idle drain. Always on display and night clock are disabled.
I enabled aggressive doze mode within Greenify (I did not hibernate any apps) and also turned on notifications for when and how long doze was activated for. Even after 7 hours of laying flat on the table next to my bed, nothing. In my week of owning this phone, I've only ever seen the doze notification from Greenify ONCE, and it only dozed for ~3 minutes within the hour of laying still.
Screenshot of battery usage overnight (plus some use during breakfast) and also the Greenify settings. Surprise, high Android System use.
http://imgur.com/a/kxRYj
Does anyone else feel that the doze feature of Android 6.0 is not working as intended on the S7?
ranova said:
I'm having somewhat higher than expected idle drain. After 7 hours of sleep, my battery has drained down to 93% from a full charge. The last Android I owned was the HTC One M7, and then had the iPhone 6 and the 6S the past 1.5 years and neither of the phones experienced this high of idle drain.
I enabled aggressive doze mode within Greenify and also turned on notifications for when and how long doze was activated for. Even after 7 hours of laying flat on the table next to my bed, nothing. In my week of owning this phone, I've only ever seen the doze notification from Greenify ONCE, and it only dozed for ~3 minutes within the hour of laying still.
Screenshot of battery usage overnight (plus some use during breakfast) and also the Greenify settings. Surprise, high Android System use.
http://imgur.com/a/kxRYj
Does anyone else feel that the doze feature of Android 6.0 is not working as intended on the S7?
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Have you tried without Greenify? On my 6P I found that having Greenify active actually drained more battery than having it inactive... Not sure why though.
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Delboyd12 said:
Have you tried without Greenify? On my 6P I found that having Greenify active actually drained more battery than having it inactive... Not sure why though.
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I'll disable greenify tonight and test it out. FYI, I'm not hibernating any apps. I just installed greenify to enable aggressive Doze mode
Aggressive doze is an experimental feature, it may just not detect doze correctly, because of changes made by Samsung and just eat more juice by checking and trying to trigger doze. But that's just a wild guess.
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Doesn't it need root for aggressive doze? I've also had problems on my 6P with Greenify and other doze-modification apps actually causing more harm than good, causing doze not to initialize.
geoff5093 said:
Doesn't it need root for aggressive doze? I've also had problems on my 6P with Greenify and other doze-modification apps actually causing more harm than good, causing doze not to initialize.
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No, Aggressive doze in Greenify doesnt need root.
I tested last night by disabling Tmobile apps, FB Messenger, and Pushbullet and aggressive doze worked!
This morning I reenabled FB Messenger and Pushbullet and left the Tmobile apps disabled - Doze still activated. I reenabled tmobile - doze did not activate.
TLDR: I believe Tmobile app is causing crazy wakelocks and doze will not activate.
If you want to test this, install Greenify, enable aggressive doze mode and notifications. Start off by keeping tmobile app enabled. Let your phone sit on a desk for 10 minutes, see theres any Doze notification.
ranova said:
If you want to test this, install Greenify, enable aggressive doze mode and notifications. Start off by keeping tmobile app enabled. Let your phone sit on a desk for 10 minutes, see theres any Doze notification.
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Mine will doze with the T-Mobile app active, but I also have pr.adapt active, I read that if you disable it, and have the T-Mobile app active, you may have issues.
I will try disabling both. but I got 22 dose cycles today totaling 5hr 31min, with both active today.
vr002sh said:
I will try disabling both. but I got 22 dose cycles today totaling 5hr 31min, with both active today.
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How do you know you got 22 cycles with Samsungs crappy battery visualizations?
Greenify messes up the doze function big time.
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AmesCell said:
How do you know you got 22 cycles with Samsungs crappy battery visualizations?
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Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
vr002sh said:
Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
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GSAM looks good. Thanks.
Greenify definitely forces the phone into the doze mode and it works. From my testing, it definitely activates doze mode more often than not. Aside from installing Greenify, i haven't played with any of the settings aside from turning Aggressive doze mode on. One thing i have noticed is that if you use AOD or Night Mode, the phone won't go into doze mode, with or without Greenify. I have verified with GSam. Hopefully its a bug cause otherwise those 2 functions are useless unless you have the phone plugged in. Hope this post helps.
vr002sh said:
Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
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If my samsung devices isn't root, will i see the doze sessions in GSAM ?

Odd overnight battery consumption

So throughout the work day my battery life was absolutely stellar, amazing.
But, I took my phone off charge at ~95% last night at around midnight. Woke up at ~6:45am and it was down to like 75%-78% don't remember specifically.
Everyone else is saying their phone doesn't lose more than like 35 overnight but mine lost a crazy amount of battery.
The ONLY thing I can think of is that it had Netflix streaming to my Chromecast overnight but at the very worst it would have streamed two episodes, then stopped, then it would've stopped streaming to Chromecast entirely and just idled on my phone without playing video or anything.
Would that situation above cause a ~20% battery lose? It didn't seem like it to me based on my battery life throughout the previous day but I don't know .. I'll test again tonight and be sure to leave Netflix off and all that.
I get 0% drain over 8h(havent tested it for more than that), I leave the apps open but the connection off. think you have a app gone rough, check your battery stats whats taking up all the juce
johanbiff said:
I get 0% drain over 8h(havent tested it for more than that), I leave the apps open but the connection off. think you have a app gone rough, check your battery stats whats taking up all the juce
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Before I charged my phone just like a half hour ago, it said the battery usage was like .. 20-20% Android OS, 15%~ something else regarding Android, then 5% Netflix, 3% Reddit Sync, a few other apps with low percentages, nothing really hogging anything. Is it possible my phone just didn't go into sleep mode? Is there a system package that controls that, that my Samsung Package Disabler Pro may have disabled? Not too sure what happened. Hopefully it doesn't reoccur tonight.
Quick question: Should I even be using Greenify and manually hibernating apps or should I just wait for a ROM and THEN use it to automatically do that? I don't even know if constantly manually using Greenify is helping or hurting my battery lol.
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Before I charged my phone just like a half hour ago, it said the battery usage was like .. 20-20% Android OS, 15%~ something else regarding Android, then 5% Netflix, 3% Reddit Sync, a few other apps with low percentages, nothing really hogging anything. Is it possible my phone just didn't go into sleep mode? Is there a system package that controls that, that my Samsung Package Disabler Pro may have disabled? Not too sure what happened. Hopefully it doesn't reoccur tonight.
Quick question: Should I even be using Greenify and manually hibernating apps or should I just wait for a ROM and THEN use it to automatically do that? I don't even know if constantly manually using Greenify is helping or hurting my battery lol.
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You are having the same problem that everybody with the sd820 version has I presume, you should not use greenify with doze from what I've heard. Try clearing your cashe.
johanbiff said:
You are having the same problem that everybody with the sd820 version has I presume, you should not use greenify with doze from what I've heard. Try clearing your cashe.
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So I should just uninstall Greenify then?
Is Doze something that's just built into the S7 itself that after a certain period of time it puts the phone to sleep? Maybe Greenify was interfering with that and my phone never actually went to sleep?
thespr said:
So I should just uninstall Greenify then?
Is Doze something that's just built into the S7 itself that after a certain period of time it puts the phone to sleep? Maybe Greenify was interfering with that and my phone never actually went to sleep?
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Yeah. You don't need it, use the built in doze feat instead.. you can turn it off in setting->battery->information. There you will see a on/off switch. Your problem could be Greenify yes.
johanbiff said:
Yeah. You don't need it, use the built in doze feat instead.. you can turn it off in setting->battery->information. There you will see a on/off switch. Your problem could be Greenify yes.
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I don't see an option for Doze in the battery screen. I see options for Power Saving Mode, Ultra Power Saving Mode, Fast Cable Charging, Show Battery Percentage, then if I hit "more" in the upper right, it just says "Refresh" and "Optimize Battery Usage."
Thanks again!
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I don't see an option for Doze in the battery screen. I see options for Power Saving Mode, Ultra Power Saving Mode, Fast Cable Charging, Show Battery Percentage, then if I hit "more" in the upper right, it just says "Refresh" and "Optimize Battery Usage."
Thanks again!
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Here are some pics.
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Here are some pics.
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I don't have that button at all :/
I see the battery usage graph, then below that is a list of what apps took up how much percentage, and above the graph is everything I said in the last post.
I have the North American Verizon S7 Edge .. not sure what's going on. Is there a system package that Doze runs off of that might be disabled by my package disabler?
I just read another thread on another forum where other people don't see an option for Doze anywhere either.
thespr said:
I don't have that button at all :/
I see the battery usage graph, then below that is a list of what apps took up how much percentage, and above the graph is everything I said in the last post.
I have the North American Verizon S7 Edge .. not sure what's going on. Is there a system package that Doze runs off of that might be disabled by my package disabler?
I just read another thread on another forum where other people don't see an option for Doze anywhere either.
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You are one step forward, go one back from the stats and graph
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You are one step forward, go one back from the stats and graph
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When I tap "Battery" from the settings menu that's the screen it takes me to, there isn't a screen before it for me :/
thespr said:
When I tap "Battery" from the settings menu that's the screen it takes me to, there isn't a screen before it for me :/
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What?! that's really weird.. but either way, turn off Greenify and see if it is better.. Can't help you more than that I'm afraid:/
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What?! that's really weird.. but either way, turn off Greenify and see if it is better.. Can't help you more than that I'm afraid:/
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Yeah it seems like the phone is just using an app-specific optimization program instead of Doze or something, no clue. I have options to optimize apps for the lowest possible battery consumption and that's automatically on for basically every app, but there isn't a single hint of Doze or a screen before the battery graph screen.. weird.
I uninstalled Greenify so hopefully that will fix it.
Hopefully there isn't a system package for doze that I have disabled, I scrolled through everything I disabled and nothing had much to do with Doze, battery consumption, power, energy, etc.
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Yeah it seems like the phone is just using an app-specific optimization program instead of Doze or something, no clue. I have options to optimize apps for the lowest possible battery consumption and that's automatically on for basically every app, but there isn't a single hint of Doze or a screen before the battery graph screen.. weird.
I uninstalled Greenify so hopefully that will fix it.
Hopefully there isn't a system package for doze that I have disabled, I scrolled through everything I disabled and nothing had much to do with Doze, battery consumption, power, energy, etc.
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Samsung built in doze combining there own style on it so what you are seeing is the doze. Just leave everything on auto and your fine.
johanbiff said:
Samsung built in doze combining there own style on it so what you are seeing is the doze.
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Ahhh okay so now Doze is just something automatically always running without options? That's a relief. Now I'm convinced Greenify may have been the issue.
thespr said:
Ahhh okay so now Doze is just something automatically always running without options? That's a relief. Now I'm convinced Greenify may have been the issue.
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You can shut it off for specific apps with the slider. Seems like I have one added option to don't use it on or off on my sw that you do not. but you can disable doze for apps with the slider, but just leave it on auto and it will fix it for ya
Yep lose 1% in 10 hour sleep wifi off all apps open
Must've been Greenify interfering with the built-in Doze (or app-optimization for SD820 variants).
Turned AOD off, uninstalled Greenify, last night battery went from 99% to 98%.

Experiencing bad battery life, unsure why.

S7 Edge Exynos global version I am using.
So, usually I can get 30 hours on battery but today suddenly my battery dropped 1% every 30 minutes when not using it. I am using Nova Launcher with energy bar running overlay on screen; wifi on; cell on. Anything else isn't on.
Following I have modified:
Developer options: running processes set to no background processes.
WiFi scanning and bluetooth sharing off.
I really want to avoid factory resetting as last resort.
My standby time is usually 1% every 1 hour 19 minutes.
I've even used Greenify to force stop apps when I'm not using my phone.
I will provide screenshots soon.
benjaminllim said:
S7 Edge Exynos global version I am using.
So, usually I can get 30 hours on battery but today suddenly my battery dropped 1% every 30 minutes when not using it. I am using Nova Launcher with energy bar running overlay on screen; wifi on; cell on. Anything else isn't on.
Following I have modified:
Developer options: running processes set to no background processes.
WiFi scanning and bluetooth sharing off.
I really want to avoid factory resetting as last resort.
My standby time is usually 1% every 1 hour 19 minutes.
I've even used Greenify to force stop apps when I'm not using my phone.
I will provide screenshots soon.
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I'll wait for the screenshots before trying to help.
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I'll wait for the screenshots before trying to help.
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So, I decided to make the move and reset the phone. I will restore everything I have and see if anything goes back to normal.
benjaminllim said:
So, I decided to make the move and reset the phone. I will restore everything I have and see if anything goes back to normal.
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That's probably the best thing to do, I hope your problems are over now.
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That's probably the best thing to do, I hope your problems are over now.
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I hope so too. I will update in a day or two how my battery is going.
In the future if I occur the same problem, then I will reply here.
Unfortunately my battery dies 1% every two to three minutes. Last time it was 4 or 5 minutes.
An hour screen one time should only be about 14% drain Max.
Really need to solve the problem quick
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That's probably the best thing to do, I hope your problems are over now.
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I've uninstalled FancyKey and Energy Bar temporarily to see if it gets better.
I'm unsure if it's the system or one of my apps draining it.
benjaminllim said:
I've uninstalled FancyKey and Energy Bar temporarily to see if it gets better.
I'm unsure if it's the system or one of my apps draining it.
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Me neither, I don't know those 2 apps. Is there a reason you have download booster on?
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Me neither, I don't know those 2 apps. Is there a reason you have download booster on?
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Download booster is on, but I turned off mobile data. It helps me see if I have 4G without changing to data manually.
I've greenified all apps and disabled as many stock apps as I didn't need.
Quite strange how everything was ok until yesterday quite annoying.
benjaminllim said:
Download booster is on, but I turned off mobile data. It helps me see if I have 4G without changing to data manually.
I've greenified all apps and disabled as many stock apps as I didn't need.
Quite strange how everything was ok until yesterday quite annoying.
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Is your phone rooted? Do you use fast charging?
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Is your phone rooted? Do you use fast charging?
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Phone isn't rooted and yes I do use fast charging.
benjaminllim said:
Phone isn't rooted and yes I do use fast charging.
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Turn off fast charging if you don't need it, your battery will last longer. What kind of things do you use your phone the most for?
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Turn off fast charging if you don't need it, your battery will last longer. What kind of things do you use your phone the most for?
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Usually social media, Facebook Twitter Instagram and Snapchat.
Messenger, WhatsApp.
I use some news applications too.
I'm wondering if fully draining my battery will restore it back to normal again.
I do have other apps installed and I do use them too.
benjaminllim said:
Usually social media, Facebook Twitter Instagram and Snapchat.
Messenger, WhatsApp.
I use some news applications too.
I'm wondering if fully draining my battery will restore it back to normal again.
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That's a good idea. Completely drain your phone, then let it charge to 100%. Also, since your phone isn't rooted you might want to steer away from Greenify and just disable the apps you don't use through the phone itself and letting the apps sleep normally.
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That's a good idea. Completely drain your phone, then let it charge to 100%. Also, since your phone isn't rooted you might want to steer away from Greenify and just disable the apps you don't use through the phone itself and letting the apps sleep normally.
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I'll use my phone without Greenify for one day and see if it gets better.
I'll completely drain it and charge it too.
You are going to have worse battery life than most regardless because you have terrible signal. Your phone is constantly pushing power to the radio just to keep the connection alive. You'd probably gain a ton of battery life just by simply going to 3g or even 2g when you are on WiFi.
If you signal is still this bad where WiFi isn't available you'll have poor battery life compared to most on any phone.
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You are going to have worse battery life than most regardless because you have terrible signal. Your phone is constantly pushing power to the radio just to keep the connection alive. You'd probably gain a ton of battery life just by simply going to 3g or even 2g when you are on WiFi.
If you signal is still this bad where WiFi isn't available you'll have poor battery life compared to most on any phone.
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Signal aside, I still had better battery life two days ago than now. So far I've been having 2 hours 30 minutes SOT and 10 hours on battery with only 40% left.
I never had to change signal to get good battery life before.
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Signal aside, I still had better battery life two days ago than now. So far I've been having 2 hours 30 minutes SOT and 10 hours on battery with only 40% left.
I never had to change signal to get good battery life before.
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What about your usage pattern has changed since then
benjaminllim said:
Following I have modified:
Developer options: running processes set to no background processes.
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What does that do and why would you do that?
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What about your usage pattern has changed since then
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3% drain in 9 hours.
Problem is still experiencing drain during the day don't know why
Is it Android System draining battery?

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Huawei P40 Pro before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
got ~7h SOT with medium usage using 90hz+4g+wifi
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got ~7h SOT with medium usage using 90hz+4g+wifi
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Only 7 hours ? Im averaging 12.5 hours with just WiFi , I got 15 hours yesterday but 5 hours of that was with watching films without WiFi , still had 15% left
Thanos88 said:
Only 7 hours ? Im averaging 12.5 hours with just WiFi , I got 15 hours yesterday but 5 hours of that was with watching films without WiFi , still had 15% left
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12.5 hours? That's insane! Do you mind sharing your settings & tweaks? This phone eats ~10% with screen on and 3% with standby with my regular settings. I do see a difference with or without 90hz, though.
6-6.5h sot on 4g/lte. On WiFi didnt tested because i dont have that many time to check sot only on WiFi . But looks more like 11h easly.
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12.5 hours? That's insane! Do you mind sharing your settings & tweaks? This phone eats ~10% with screen on and 3% with standby with my regular settings. I do see a difference with or without 90hz, though.
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12.5 hours is actually normal. But my settings are 60h, (90hz actually doesn't make much of a difference). I've got several apps disabled too. I always have GPS, Bluetooth, Data, WiFi, 5g Off unless I need to use them. Always on display is switched off. I always have dark mode on.
If I was you I would install Gsam battery monitor and see if any apps are keeping your device awake in the background because 7 hours is way too low
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12.5 hours is actually normal. But my settings are 60h, (90hz actually doesn't make much of a difference). I've got several apps disabled too. I always have GPS, Bluetooth, Data, WiFi, 5g Off unless I need to use them. Always on display is switched off. I always have dark mode on.
If I was you I would install Gsam battery monitor and see if any apps are keeping your device awake in the background because 7 hours is way too low
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Thanks for sharing, bro. :good:It seems our preferred settings are quite different. I prefer 90hz as my picky eyeballs can tell a big difference . I turned off some of the bloats (but not all), and I keep wifi, AOD, and data on. Honestly, with my regular settings, I'm not expecting it to last longer than 9 hours.
GSam battery monitor has been installed, but I haven't delved into it. My plan is to adb disable a few H apps and watch the difference. I guess you have tested it out, and I'd like to hear your advice.
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Thanks for sharing, bro. :good:It seems our preferred settings are quite different. I prefer 90hz as my picky eyeballs can tell a big difference . I turned off some of the bloats (but not all), and I keep wifi, AOD, and data on. Honestly, with my regular settings, I'm not expecting it to last longer than 9 hours.
GSam battery monitor has been installed, but I haven't delved into it. My plan is to adb disable a few H apps and watch the difference. I guess you have tested it out, and I'd like to hear your advice.
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I can't see much difference with the refresh rate, the phone is smooth af on both settings ?
AOD will drain plenty of battery. I've uninstalled some apps with ABD too, but I uninstalled something I shouldn't have, restarted the phone and the phone wouldn't boot up so I had to do a factory reset ? be careful with what you uninstall with adb?
I'm on 94% at the moment with 1 hour SOT, been using it for Web browsing and WhatsApp.
With gsam I've enabled the extra settings with ABD which shows wake locks, so far I've seen many wake locks from *alarm* but the maximum wake time I get in 24 hours is roughly 6 minutes which I assume is normal,
I keep my screen on lower resolution too and I guess that's helping big time (I only use full HD if I'm watching a film)
I've also disabled background data for every single app and I've set App lamuch all to manual and the only app I let run in the background is WhatsApp, I believe this will improve battery life by loads
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I can't see much difference with the refresh rate, the phone is smooth af on both settings
AOD will drain plenty of battery. I've uninstalled some apps with ABD too, but I uninstalled something I shouldn't have, restarted the phone and the phone wouldn't boot up so I had to do a factory reset be careful with what you uninstall with adb
I'm on 94% at the moment with 1 hour SOT, been using it for Web browsing and WhatsApp.
With gsam I've enabled the extra settings with ABD which shows wake locks, so far I've seen many wake locks from *alarm* but the maximum wake time I get in 24 hours is roughly 6 minutes which I assume is normal,
I keep my screen on lower resolution too and I guess that's helping big time (I only use full HD if I'm watching a film)
I've also disabled background data for every single app and I've set App lamuch all to manual and the only app I let run in the background is WhatsApp, I believe this will improve battery life by loads
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LOL. Happy to hear that 90hz wouldn't hit my battery hard. I'll play with the AOD settings, although it's something I'm really looking forward to moving from my old device. I've turned to a lower resolution too, and I couldn't notice the change. All apps in app launch have set to manual and no background except email and one chat app. This is the bottom line for me. LOL.
Keep awake time is ~7m with frequent screen on/off during my 1d regular use, which I'm generally happy with. I'm planning to take a quick look at the wakelock during a short standby, but alarm didn't rank high (after hibernation, syncloopwakelock and eventloop). (BTW, I really hate it that they disable unlocking bootloader, otherwise we can easily tweak those services.)
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LOL. Happy to hear that 90hz wouldn't hit my battery hard. I'll play with the AOD settings, although it's something I'm really looking forward to moving from my old device. I've turned to a lower resolution too, and I couldn't notice the change. All apps in app launch have set to manual and no background except email and one chat app. This is the bottom line for me. LOL.
Keep awake time is ~7m with frequent screen on/off during my 1d regular use, which I'm generally happy with. I'm planning to take a quick look at the wakelock during a short standby, but alarm didn't rank high (after hibernation, syncloopwakelock and eventloop). (BTW, I really hate it that they disable unlocking bootloader, otherwise we can easily tweak those services.)
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AOD is not good imo, in the long run it will cause screen burn (very common with AOD).
Take a look at my screen shots, have your app launch set up like mine.
Keep awake time seems normal, I get roughly 6mins so no issues there
Can you send me a screenshot with your full battery usage? Along with every app which has consumed battery?
Look at my 2 screen shots. Have your app launch set up exactly that. The 3 options need to be disabled along with Manual setting on.
Second screenshot you see has background and roaming data OFF for every single App except Gsam & WhatsApp ?
PS use a dark theme too
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AOD is not good imo, in the long run it will cause screen burn (very common with AOD).
Take a look at my screen shots, have your app launch set up like mine.
Keep awake time seems normal, I get roughly 6mins so no issues there
Can you send me a screenshot with your full battery usage? Along with every app which has consumed battery?
Look at my 2 screen shots. Have your app launch set up exactly that. The 3 options need to be disabled along with Manual setting on.
Second screenshot you see has background and roaming data OFF for every single App except Gsam & WhatsApp
PS use a dark theme too
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I understand that AOD could burn the screen in the long run, but the bright side is it frequently shifts the bright pixels and is automatically switched off in pocket/face down.
Yeah, I have almost identical settings as yours since yesterday. I'll give it a shot, and upload the results. Thanks again, mate.:good:
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AOD is not good imo, in the long run it will cause screen burn (very common with AOD).
Take a look at my screen shots, have your app launch set up like mine.
Keep awake time seems normal, I get roughly 6mins so no issues there
Can you send me a screenshot with your full battery usage? Along with every app which has consumed battery?
Look at my 2 screen shots. Have your app launch set up exactly that. The 3 options need to be disabled along with Manual setting on.
Second screenshot you see has background and roaming data OFF for every single App except Gsam & WhatsApp
PS use a dark theme too
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Sorry to bother you again. I did a quick test using gsam battery monitor. It's not a full cycle, but representative of my daily use. I did not see a huge impact by low resolution probably because the automatic resolution takes care of it in part of the scenarios. Since the Google play services takes the most of the battery, and the other apps have been pretty much limited, I have no clue of how to damp the wakelocks and improve the battery life further. crying:
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AOD is not good imo, in the long run it will cause screen burn (very common with AOD).
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No it won't. The AOD image is automatically repositioned on the screen over time so it doesn't cause burn-in.
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Sorry to bother you again. I did a quick test using gsam battery monitor. It's not a full cycle, but representative of my daily use. I did not see a huge impact by low resolution probably because the automatic resolution takes care of it in part of the scenarios. Since the Google play services takes the most of the battery, and the other apps have been pretty much limited, I have no clue of how to damp the wakelocks and improve the battery life further. crying:
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Hey, I'm not sure why your Google play services battery drain is so high ? if you scroll all the way to the right you'll be able to see what app is causing the drain. The only part I could see was com.Android on your last screenshot.
Best thing to do is find the wake lock names and use adb to ignore the wake locks,
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Hey, I'm not sure why your Google play services battery drain is so high ? if you scroll all the way to the right you'll be able to see what app is causing the drain. The only part I could see was com.Android on your last screenshot.
Best thing to do is find the wake lock names and use adb to ignore the wake locks,
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I totally forgot about that function in adb shell. LOL. That issue with google play services got fixed by clearing the cache. After that the battery life was improved a bit (8~9 SOT), and I'm happy with what it is now. I'll keep looking for the culprit and play with the adb ignore commands. Thank you for your help!
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I totally forgot about that function in adb shell. LOL. That issue with google play services got fixed by clearing the cache. After that the battery life was improved a bit (8~9 SOT), and I'm happy with what it is now. I'll keep looking for the culprit and play with the adb ignore commands. Thank you for your help!
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Which cache did you clear? I want to clear it too to see if there's any improvement. What cache was it you cleared?
I'm glad you're battery has improved ???
Let me know if you find any culprits please and if you find any other ways to improve battery life ?
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Which cache did you clear? I want to clear it too to see if there's any improvement. What cache was it you cleared?
I'm glad you're battery has improved
Let me know if you find any culprits please and if you find any other ways to improve battery life
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I believe I cleared the cache for google play services and framework, and please note that don't mess up with the data of framework.
So far my device is running very smoothly, and the majority of alarms come from android heartbeat, and a few from GCM-related intents, so I'm happy with it. I'll have a full battery cycle run and see if I have any improvement. :highfive:
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I believe I cleared the cache for google play services and framework, and please note that don't mess up with the data of framework.
So far my device is running very smoothly, and the majority of alarms come from android heartbeat, and a few from GCM-related intents, so I'm happy with it. I'll have a full battery cycle run and see if I have any improvement. :highfive:
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Understood, I just cleared cache too. I will continue to inspect and debloat, will let you know of any improvements or fixes for better battery life, thanks!
Gave you a like too ?
Thanos88 said:
Understood, I just cleared cache too. I will continue to inspect and debloat, will let you know of any improvements or fixes for better battery life, thanks!
Gave you a like too
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One thing that I forgot to do, which may explain why I had some surprisingly high usage of google play services, is to turn off the auto-updates in google play store, although I don't think it has a big impact on the battery. Overall, the battery life (see attachment) looks good to me given my settings and everyday use.
It's kinda surprising to me that the bloatware from Huawei kept silent whereas google services rang a lot of doorbells. Don't know why, but I figure google has reached its hands to too many hidden areas in my device whereas Huawei is still learning from his big brother. Just kidding:laugh:.
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One thing that I forgot to do, which may explain why I had some surprisingly high usage of google play services, is to turn off the auto-updates in google play store, although I don't think it has a big impact on the battery. Overall, the battery life (see attachment) looks good to me given my settings and everyday use.
It's kinda surprising to me that the bloatware from Huawei kept silent whereas google services rang a lot of doorbells. Don't know why, but I figure google has reached its hands to too many hidden areas in my device whereas Huawei is still learning from his big brother. Just kidding:laugh:.
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I already turned off auto updates ? and your stats looks very good! 3 hours SOT with 70ish percent left, that's very good.
Juding by sales, looks like huawei will be the bigger brother soon ??

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