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Massive battery drain when screen is off

So I have my phone like 4 days now and the first day I immediately noticed that when I turn off the screen it drains battery like hell (60+% in one night). It's like the cpu doesn't go to sleep at all.. Sometimes it works fine and looses like 5% at night that's fine for me but then the next day it will loose 10+ % in one hour by doing nothing...
The phone is pure stock, I changed nothing, no root or anything...
This is really annoying have no idea what it could be that drains so much battery.. Already looked if an app was draining but no...
Someone has the same problem? Or maybe knows how to fix this?

Clear the cache.
In case you don't know.
Turn phone off
Hold Home + Power + Volume Up till you see the Samsung logo, then let go of all buttons.
A menu should load - Navigate using vol keys and select using power button.
I had a similar issue and this fixed it for me.

Alex---1 said:
Clear the cache.
In case you don't know.
Turn phone off
Hold Home + Power + Volume Up till you see the Samsung logo, then let go of all buttons.
A menu should load - Navigate using vol keys and select using power button.
I had a similar issue and this fixed it for me.
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So did it last night but changed not much at all, at most it drains 2% less an hour..
I'm thinking if factory reset would fix it but I don't really wanna do that..

Mønsters924 said:
So I have my phone like 4 days now and the first day I immediately noticed that when I turn off the screen it drains battery like hell (60+% in one night). It's like the cpu doesn't go to sleep at all.. Sometimes it works fine and looses like 5% at night that's fine for me but then the next day it will loose 10+ % in one hour by doing nothing...
The phone is pure stock, I changed nothing, no root or anything...
This is really annoying have no idea what it could be that drains so much battery.. Already looked if an app was draining but no...
Someone has the same problem? Or maybe knows how to fix this?
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There is an excellent thread on battery life for note5 which you can use to get tips for edge plus too.Here is the link :
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5/567125-note-5-battery-life-thread.html
Samsung has provided lot of inbuilt apps like Smart Manager which is like Clean Master you get in Play store.
Open Smart Manager ---> Click on Storage --> click on Detail ---> click on Cache data --> click delete to clean cache.
Lot of people downloaded Greeify, shutupp,wave lock detector and doze which actually use battery. After I uninstalled them battery life increased by 45 minutes.

vravik said:
There is an excellent thread on battery life for note5 which you can use to get tips for edge plus too.Here is the link :
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5/567125-note-5-battery-life-thread.html
Samsung has provided lot of inbuilt apps like Smart Manager which is like Clean Master you get in Play store.
Open Smart Manager ---> Click on Storage --> click on Detail ---> click on Cache data --> click delete to clean cache.
Lot of people downloaded Greeify, shutupp,wave lock detector and doze which actually use battery. After I uninstalled them battery life increased by 45 minutes.
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I agree. Most of the apps that promise to increase battery life degrade it further. In fact, this Paranoia of ours with battery life (keep checking every 10 minutes for battery drop) affects it further.
So, I would suggest uninstall all 3rd party apps. And do not track battery life every instant. And still if you think your battery isn't lasting long enough (check On Screen Time/ Active Time at end of day), contact Samsung.

Hello there!
I had the same problem initially. I wasn't sure which app was causing. So i did a factory reset and reconfigured everything. Now all well. So i guess the best thing would be to backup everything do a factory reset. Then carefully monitor the other app you are installing. There are few that draws lot of power for location services. Then disable that S voice wake up command thingy I am guessing it runs all the time which is not so great. Don't go for Greefiy or any apps like that. Those don't do great job unless you have a Xposed running

So I tried clearing the cache but did noting. I had GPS always on I thought maybe if I turn it off but the same changed nothing.. I don't have any "battery Monitoring" or greenify like app.. Sometimes it works fine but othertimes it drains like crazy doing nothing.. I will try factory reset, hope that will fix this..

Same was here
Mønsters924 said:
So I tried clearing the cache but did noting. I had GPS always on I thought maybe if I turn it off but the same changed nothing.. I don't have any "battery Monitoring" or greenify like app.. Sometimes it works fine but othertimes it drains like crazy doing nothing.. I will try factory reset, hope that will fix this..
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Hello mate. I faced the same battery drain problem. It wasn't going to deep sleep when screen was off. Last night 6-7 hours screen was off but the device wasted my %19 battery so result was missing the alarm and got late to work etc. Then I rooted and flashing the Arter97 kernel solved this(Now draining about %3). The device is now sleeping deeply like a deeply sleeping baby when screen is off lol.

Konsstantine34 said:
Hello mate. I faced the same battery drain problem. It wasn't going to deep sleep when screen was off. Last night 6-7 hours screen was off but the device wasted my %19 battery so result was missing the alarm and got late to work etc. Then I rooted and flashing the Arter97 kernel solved this(Now draining about %3). The device is now sleeping deeply like a deeply sleeping baby when screen is off lol.
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How did you root it? I'm on G928F and didn't find anything else that the stock autoroot kernel but not sure about it..

Go to arter97 thread in android development and you will find what you seek.
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Or the how to topic in general discussion section
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Konsstantine34 said:
Hello mate. I faced the same battery drain problem. It wasn't going to deep sleep when screen was off. Last night 6-7 hours screen was off but the device wasted my %19 battery so result was missing the alarm and got late to work etc. Then I rooted and flashing the Arter97 kernel solved this(Now draining about %3). The device is now sleeping deeply like a deeply sleeping baby when screen is off lol.
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So I flashed Kernel and rooted the phone (bricked it by the way with that stupid FRP LOCK but recovered it ��) and I noticed no difference in the battery drain in deep sleep it continues to drain like hell I don't understand...

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Mønsters924 said:
So I flashed Kernel and rooted the phone (bricked it by the way with that stupid FRP LOCK but recovered it ��) and I noticed no difference in the battery drain in deep sleep it continues to drain like hell I don't understand...
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It's weird. Did u check the arter kernel flashed properly, cpu governor switched to interactive and 'Deep sleep' isn't in 'Unused Cpu States' ? I ask that because my device doesn't waste much battery when the device is in deep sleep(already said). Dunno man I couldn't help any more. Good luck.

Konsstantine34 said:
It's weird. Did u check the arter kernel flashed properly, cpu governor switched to interactive and 'Deep sleep' isn't in 'Unused Cpu States' ? I ask that because my device doesn't waste much battery when the device is in deep sleep(already said). Dunno man I couldn't help any more. Good luck.
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Took a screen from my kernel so yeah I guess it flashed properly but how do i check governor and cpu states?

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Mønsters924 said:
Took a screen from my kernel so yeah I guess it flashed properly but how do i check governor and cpu states?
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Yeah flashing is ok. You can download any kernel app. I'm using Kernel Aduitor, Kcontrol, Trickster Mod Kernel Settings apps. Basically download the first one from Play Store.

Thanks so governor is interactive but in unused cpu states I have nothing just "-"

Mønsters924 said:
Thanks so governor is interactive but in unused cpu states I have nothing just "-"
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So check the deep sleep usage. How long time it have used.

Konsstantine34 said:
So check the deep sleep usage. How long time it have used.
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Okay I'll show you tomorrow will charge up the phone now and let it sit until tomorrow morning and see how much deep sleep it had and how much buttery he drained
The thing is before I flashed the kernel I looked at the deep sleep and it seemed like it deep sleep correctly.. I don't get it
I'm always the only bastard who gets a phone with a problem that nobody else has ????

lol. Good luck mate

Konsstantine34 said:
lol. Good luck mate
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So it's been a couple weeks now and I managed to get a little bit better battery life, drains 15-20% over night before it drained something like 60 70% but battery life is still poor some guys get 7 to 9h SOT I'm can be happy if I get 4 5h..
I'm running custom rom arter kernel tried everything but nothing really fixes completely my problem.. Start to think I have a faulty phone..

Battery Help

So I've had the 6p for about a month now and I'm absolutely loving the phone, but I have one huge issue which is the battery life. I read online that this phone is getting 6+ hours SOT, and every charge cycle I check my stats and I'm getting like barely 3 hours SOT. I feel like this shouldn't be happening and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on maybe something I'm doing wrong. I am rooted and running the latest Chroma and also using the latest elementalX kernel. I have Xposed installed which i feel shouldn't really be affecting battery life too much. I have amplify and greenify which should be boosting battery life but those are also not working. What I do on my phone is all day snapchatting, sometimes checking twitter and some would say heavy texting. If anyone could tell me why my battery isn't getting anything near the average it should be getting, or has any suggestions it would help lots!! Sorry for the long post, but i wanna resolve this issue

Hey, charge your phone to 100% (leave it charging for half a hour after it says that it's full). Then use it normally, and when it's almost empty, take screenshots of battery statistics and post here.
Also, what are your settings? Brightness, are you using 4G data constantly etc.
What I've read, Greenify messes up Doze.

dannyqanaah said:
So I've had the 6p for about a month now and I'm absolutely loving the phone, but I have one huge issue which is the battery life. I read online that this phone is getting 6+ hours SOT, and every charge cycle I check my stats and I'm getting like barely 3 hours SOT. I feel like this shouldn't be happening and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on maybe something I'm doing wrong. I am rooted and running the latest Chroma and also using the latest elementalX kernel. I have Xposed installed which i feel shouldn't really be affecting battery life too much. I have amplify and greenify which should be boosting battery life but those are also not working. What I do on my phone is all day snapchatting, sometimes checking twitter and some would say heavy texting. If anyone could tell me why my battery isn't getting anything near the average it should be getting, or has any suggestions it would help lots!! Sorry for the long post, but i wanna resolve this issue
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Do you go off and on your phone a lot? Like check it, lock it, check it again? I guess stop starting would describe it? If so, then 3 hours is the expected screen on time for that usage. On constant usage you would get 4 hours+, for sure.

TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Hey, charge your phone to 100% (leave it charging for half a hour after it says that it's full). Then use it normally, and when it's almost empty, take screenshots of battery statistics and post here.
Also, what are your settings? Brightness, are you using 4G data constantly etc.
What I've read, Greenify messes up Doze.
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dannyqanaah said:
So I've had the 6p for about a month now and I'm absolutely loving the phone, but I have one huge issue which is the battery life. I read online that this phone is getting 6+ hours SOT, and every charge cycle I check my stats and I'm getting like barely 3 hours SOT. I feel like this shouldn't be happening and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on maybe something I'm doing wrong. I am rooted and running the latest Chroma and also using the latest elementalX kernel. I have Xposed installed which i feel shouldn't really be affecting battery life too much. I have amplify and greenify which should be boosting battery life but those are also not working. What I do on my phone is all day snapchatting, sometimes checking twitter and some would say heavy texting. If anyone could tell me why my battery isn't getting anything near the average it should be getting, or has any suggestions it would help lots!! Sorry for the long post, but i wanna resolve this issue
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The screenshots could indeed be useful.
As you described, you use snapchat allot. Snapchat is a real battery drainer. It decreases screen time allot, because when snapchat is open, it enables both front and rear camera and gps and maybe even more things that I'm not aware about. So basically it enables everything thats power hungry on this device. If you want to keep snapchatting allot, I don't think you'll will get to 6 hours sot.
Maybe you can use a custom kernel. I personally use the latest Franco Kernel, that kernel has tweaked some stuff so the phone uses the battery friendly cores more than the power hungry cores, without having noticeable performance loss.
But as said a screenshot would be nice, maybe you can install better battery stats (it's on xda) for even more advanced stats.
And remove amplify and greenify, you get the same or better battery results, but keeping the phone more functional.

TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Hey, charge your phone to 100% (leave it charging for half a hour after it says that it's full). Then use it normally, and when it's almost empty, take screenshots of battery statistics and post here.
Also, what are your settings? Brightness, are you using 4G data constantly etc.
What I've read, Greenify messes up Doze.
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I never use 100% brightness usually only at about 30%-70%. And yes I am always using data as I need emails to be sync'd and have many social media notifications.
gman88667733 said:
Do you go off and on your phone a lot? Like check it, lock it, check it again? I guess stop starting would describe it? If so, then 3 hours is the expected screen on time for that usage. On constant usage you would get 4 hours+, for sure.
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Umm, well i get texts so I respond to them and then lock my phone again but yes I am turning the display on and off, but isn't that what most people do?
wietse1988 said:
The screenshots could indeed be useful.
As you described, you use snapchat allot. Snapchat is a real battery drainer. It decreases screen time allot, because when snapchat is open, it enables both front and rear camera and gps and maybe even more things that I'm not aware about. So basically it enables everything thats power hungry on this device. If you want to keep snapchatting allot, I don't think you'll will get to 6 hours sot.
Maybe you can use a custom kernel. I personally use the latest Franco Kernel, that kernel has tweaked some stuff so the phone uses the battery friendly cores more than the power hungry cores, without having noticeable performance loss.
But as said a screenshot would be nice, maybe you can install better battery stats (it's on xda) for even more advanced stats.
And remove amplify and greenify, you get the same or better battery results, but keeping the phone more functional.
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I've removed greenift and amplify, I'll post my screen shots once I get them Thanks for the help so far guys

Also try this:
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Wi-Fi scanning > disable
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Bluetooth scanning > disable
This was the first thing I did upon unboxing my precious.

So after doing what you guys told me to do I have gotten an extra hour out of the battery. Although yesterday I didn't use my phone as much as I usually do, due to being busy. Do you guys think this is the best its gonna get?!

fernievidal said:
Also try this:
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Wi-Fi scanning > disable
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Bluetooth scanning > disable
This was the first thing I did upon unboxing my precious.
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Just did this! Thanks I never knew about those settings

dannyqanaah said:
Just did this! Thanks I never knew about those settings
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Glad to help! If you do a YouTube search, there's a lot of tips to optimize our phone.

I don't think Doze is working at all on the S7

I'm having somewhat higher than expected idle drain. After 7 hours of sleep, my battery has drained down to 93% from a full charge. The last Android I owned was the HTC One M7, and then had the iPhone 6 and the 6S the past 1.5 years and neither of the phones experienced this high of idle drain. Always on display and night clock are disabled.
I enabled aggressive doze mode within Greenify (I did not hibernate any apps) and also turned on notifications for when and how long doze was activated for. Even after 7 hours of laying flat on the table next to my bed, nothing. In my week of owning this phone, I've only ever seen the doze notification from Greenify ONCE, and it only dozed for ~3 minutes within the hour of laying still.
Screenshot of battery usage overnight (plus some use during breakfast) and also the Greenify settings. Surprise, high Android System use.
http://imgur.com/a/kxRYj
Does anyone else feel that the doze feature of Android 6.0 is not working as intended on the S7?

ranova said:
I'm having somewhat higher than expected idle drain. After 7 hours of sleep, my battery has drained down to 93% from a full charge. The last Android I owned was the HTC One M7, and then had the iPhone 6 and the 6S the past 1.5 years and neither of the phones experienced this high of idle drain.
I enabled aggressive doze mode within Greenify and also turned on notifications for when and how long doze was activated for. Even after 7 hours of laying flat on the table next to my bed, nothing. In my week of owning this phone, I've only ever seen the doze notification from Greenify ONCE, and it only dozed for ~3 minutes within the hour of laying still.
Screenshot of battery usage overnight (plus some use during breakfast) and also the Greenify settings. Surprise, high Android System use.
http://imgur.com/a/kxRYj
Does anyone else feel that the doze feature of Android 6.0 is not working as intended on the S7?
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Have you tried without Greenify? On my 6P I found that having Greenify active actually drained more battery than having it inactive... Not sure why though.
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Delboyd12 said:
Have you tried without Greenify? On my 6P I found that having Greenify active actually drained more battery than having it inactive... Not sure why though.
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I'll disable greenify tonight and test it out. FYI, I'm not hibernating any apps. I just installed greenify to enable aggressive Doze mode

Aggressive doze is an experimental feature, it may just not detect doze correctly, because of changes made by Samsung and just eat more juice by checking and trying to trigger doze. But that's just a wild guess.
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Doesn't it need root for aggressive doze? I've also had problems on my 6P with Greenify and other doze-modification apps actually causing more harm than good, causing doze not to initialize.

geoff5093 said:
Doesn't it need root for aggressive doze? I've also had problems on my 6P with Greenify and other doze-modification apps actually causing more harm than good, causing doze not to initialize.
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No, Aggressive doze in Greenify doesnt need root.
I tested last night by disabling Tmobile apps, FB Messenger, and Pushbullet and aggressive doze worked!
This morning I reenabled FB Messenger and Pushbullet and left the Tmobile apps disabled - Doze still activated. I reenabled tmobile - doze did not activate.
TLDR: I believe Tmobile app is causing crazy wakelocks and doze will not activate.
If you want to test this, install Greenify, enable aggressive doze mode and notifications. Start off by keeping tmobile app enabled. Let your phone sit on a desk for 10 minutes, see theres any Doze notification.

ranova said:
If you want to test this, install Greenify, enable aggressive doze mode and notifications. Start off by keeping tmobile app enabled. Let your phone sit on a desk for 10 minutes, see theres any Doze notification.
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Mine will doze with the T-Mobile app active, but I also have pr.adapt active, I read that if you disable it, and have the T-Mobile app active, you may have issues.
I will try disabling both. but I got 22 dose cycles today totaling 5hr 31min, with both active today.

vr002sh said:
I will try disabling both. but I got 22 dose cycles today totaling 5hr 31min, with both active today.
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How do you know you got 22 cycles with Samsungs crappy battery visualizations?

Greenify messes up the doze function big time.
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AmesCell said:
How do you know you got 22 cycles with Samsungs crappy battery visualizations?
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Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.

vr002sh said:
Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
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GSAM looks good. Thanks.

Greenify definitely forces the phone into the doze mode and it works. From my testing, it definitely activates doze mode more often than not. Aside from installing Greenify, i haven't played with any of the settings aside from turning Aggressive doze mode on. One thing i have noticed is that if you use AOD or Night Mode, the phone won't go into doze mode, with or without Greenify. I have verified with GSam. Hopefully its a bug cause otherwise those 2 functions are useless unless you have the phone plugged in. Hope this post helps.

vr002sh said:
Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
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If my samsung devices isn't root, will i see the doze sessions in GSAM ?

Doze is a hoax

So I've been running cm 14.1 with elemental ex kernel for last 2 months and my sot was 2.30-3 hours, last week I disabled doze for chrome play music and downloads and surprisingly my sot has improved upto 4 hours, which has lead me to believe Doze may be rubbish after all

Haven't disabled doze and I get 5+ hrs SOT on Pure Nexus with EX kernel. Idle drain is minimal (.3-.5% per hr).
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Yasharkhan said:
So I've been running cm 14.1 with elemental ex kernel for last 2 months and my sot was 2.30-3 hours, last week I disabled doze for chrome play music and downloads and surprisingly my sot has improved upto 4 hours, which has lead me to believe Doze may be rubbish after all
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That was pretty much already confirmed. This is why most of us disable it for all apps. I am in the process of making a zip that disables it for every app.

Doze doesn't increase your SOT, it's not meant to. It's supposed to increase your screen off time.

donjuro said:
Doze doesn't increase your SOT, it's not meant to. It's supposed to increase your screen off time.
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If you disable it, then it can increase it. Just because it is not using the extra battery pretty much unfreezing the apps. Screen off time means absolutely nothing to users. They couldn't care less.

zelendel said:
If you disable it, then it can increase it. Just because it is not using the extra battery pretty much unfreezing the apps. Screen off time means absolutely nothing to users. They couldn't care less.
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I thought doze was supposed to increase screen off time (stand by) so you'll have battery when you're ready for screen on time.

kwdan said:
I thought doze was supposed to increase screen off time (stand by) so you'll have battery when you're ready for screen on time.
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What it does is puts many apps into a hibernate state. It was made to increase over all battery life but ended up doing the opposite because the device uses more battery when it has to release the app from the state. You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.

zelendel said:
What it does is puts many apps into a hibernate state. It was made to increase over all battery life but ended up doing the opposite because the device uses more battery when it has to release the app from the state. You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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Would definitely appreciate a zip to disable all installed apps. Doing it one by one is so tedious

zelendel said:
.....You can shut it off on a per app basis by turning off Battery optimization for the app.
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It's a hassle. Great plan to create a 'turn off all' method.
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What about apps like ForceDoze or NapTime? Do they increase overall battery life or no?

Dopamin3 said:
What about apps like ForceDoze or NapTime? Do they increase overall battery life or no?
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They may improve standby time, but what we are talking about is screen on time. By disabling doze, you'll get less standby, but more screen on

dictionary said:
They may improve standby time, but what we are talking about is screen on time. By disabling doze, you'll get less standby, but more screen on
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So I guess the ideal situation would be while screen on have doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up. Probably not.

Actually it didn't effected my stand by time either, only a drop of 2-3% overnight with WiFi on and notifications coming and notifications led on

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when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up.
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I have tried Tasker but gave up on it for its complexity and also because I have very few demands that require automation, but this looks like something it might be able to do. Are there any Tasker experts who could advise?

Do we have a setting to do this stuff
Running stock Android 7.1.1
Bootloader locked

Dopamin3 said:
.... doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode...
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After the update to N7.1.1 it was necessary to disable battery optimization again for all apps.
And also adding again: wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=400 in build.prop.
I think that it's useful to set a high scan value when doze mode is off.

Dopamin3 said:
So I guess the ideal situation would be while screen on have doze completely disabled, and when screen off immediately enter doze mode. Wonder if there's a way to set that up. Probably not.
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That is what doze does. Just with a timer. The battery drain comes from having to wake the apps back up again. Doze is completely worthless and defeats the meaning of having a smartphone for constant notifications.

zelendel said:
.....Doze is completely worthless and defeats the meaning of having a smartphone for constant notifications.
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.....and when you pick up your phone; many notifications appears at the same time. Clutter!

NLBeev said:
.....and when you pick up your phone; many notifications appears at the same time. Clutter!
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Well that depends on how much you bloat your device. I at most have 5. 3 individual sms notification (removed bundling) Gmail and missed calls. Not really all that clutter.

zelendel said:
Well that depends on how much you bloat your device. I at most have 5. 3 individual sms notification (removed bundling) Gmail and missed calls. Not really all that clutter.
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Yep, overdone a bit; recently removed many unused stuff and changed to another mail client.

LG G6 optimized for battery life

Hello, I am the new owner of the LG G6. I noticed a fairly large consumption of the battery in this phone, especially during idle
That is why I would like for myself and others to gather in this topic all the ways to improve the G6 performance in terms of battery life, which do not require rooting and are safe for the phone.
First, disable LDB (MLT in older versions) in hidden menu (LG 24/7 tracking of phone)
Search for "LDB function LG G6" in Google, there should be a theme on Reddit about MLT with exact instructions. Maybe someone below will drop the link, because I do not have such a possibility
What else can we do in the hidden LG menu to improve the battery life?
Second, turn off bloatwear
The easiest way is to go to settings > applications and disable (uninstall) applications that you do not use. However, this way you can not get rid of all the bloatware.
What are the other methods for improving the battery life of the LG G6?

Battery standby drain on my G6 (H870DS) is also poor. I lose between 1.5-2.5% an hour when the phone is just sat on the table. I have tried many things to reduce this without success. I have AOD off, battery saver on, gmail sync off, aeroplane mode on (no mobile/cell signal at home), Bluetooth off, WiFi off when screen off. I have removed/ hidden most of the bloatware using ADB commands and experimented with apps such as greenify and forcedoze but nothing seems to make any difference to the high battery consumption when the phone is idle. I have done 2-3 factory resets and nothing has improved. Gsam battery app tells me that a lot of battery usage is caused by android os, kernel and google play services. My conclusions are that android 7.0 Nougat has poor battery idle drain. LG will only update this to 8.0 Oreo eventually which might improve battery efficiency. Some people are reporting better standby performance with their G6’s so it might have something to do with which model/regions firmware you have. I also have the latest TWN firmware and this improved idle drain slightly. I shall wait for android 8.0 Oreo then factory reset and probably be disappointed. Great phone apart from poor battery standby and not having a notification led.

The most amusing thing I've noticed is that the Always-On Display has virtually no battery consumption. Whether it is running or not, I had the same high consumption on idle.
Tomorrow morning I will check whether turning off LDB (MLT) gives something.
I am afraid of updating to Android 8.0, because reviews of other phones after the update are extremely different, some say that the battery life has deteriorated, and others that have improved slightly

I too have my doubts that android 8.0 will be bring any improvement to battery standby drain so will be waiting to see other people’s experiences before I update.

This is also fun, because for the same type of device people report different effects of upgrades. So usually Android upgrade is a high risk game

It seems that turning off the LDB (MLT) feature has reduced the battery consumption in idle 2x, now the phone uses about 0.25% per hour.

Very interesting, that's the first time I've actually heard or read something about MLT/LDB. I wonder what both stands for and also what's its literal function. Polish forums are flooded with threads about "LG's spying app!".
I gave it a try and turned it off. Also I've turned off logging services too. After rebooting, I've removed two apps that are mentioned here and had to force-reboot again as "MLT has stopped" started popping up after a minute or two and it prevented me from doing anything on the phone
Hopefully it will improve battery life... even slightly, but improvement is improvement. For me, battery life is the weakest point of this phone (damned Android 7.0 and its idle battery drain bug)...
RAM is not so important for me, 4 gigs are enough and I've never experienced any slowdowns even with 30 tabs opened in Chrome

Someone on Reddit suggested disabling background running services for apps that use it for no real reason. This can be done by following:
Device settings > Smart doctor > Tap Memory > Tap overflow menu > Tap conserve memory
Selecting the apps that you want to not run in the background and setting the toggle to ON will help. Maybe. Ish.

romcio47 said:
I gave it a try and turned it off. Also I've turned off logging services too. After rebooting, I've removed two apps that are mentioned here and had to force-reboot again as "MLT has stopped" started popping up after a minute or two and it prevented me from doing anything on the phone
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Let me know what effects have turned off logging and uninstalling these applications. It is a pity that these applications can only be uninstalled on the root device.
adaimespechip said:
Someone on Reddit suggested disabling background running services for apps that use it for no real reason. This can be done by following:
Device settings > Smart doctor > Tap Memory > Tap overflow menu > Tap conserve memory
Selecting the apps that you want to not run in the background and setting the toggle to ON will help. Maybe. Ish.
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Thanks for the hint. I just did it. Too bad there are so few applications that I want them to not work in the background

adaimespechip said:
Device settings > Smart doctor > Tap Memory > Tap overflow menu > Tap conserve memory
Selecting the apps that you want to not run in the background and setting the toggle to ON will help. Maybe. Ish.
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I will try it too, thanks for the hint.
jacekmi said:
Let me know what effects have turned off logging and uninstalling these applications. It is a pity that these applications can only be uninstalled on the root device.
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Manually turning MLT off should be enough, I removed these apps just in case but I don't think it makes MLT "double off" as it's already killed in service menu.
I will do some checks and report in few days, stay tuned.

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Can you tell me how, step by step, you have disabled the logs?

jacekmi said:
Can you tell me how, step by step, you have disabled the logs?
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I don't have my phone with me but as far as I remember the steps are almost exactly the same as for MLT/LDB disable.
Only you click the button about logging instead of MLT, one or two rows below. Then you have to tap "disable" button until every logging service below is set to "Disabled".

romcio47 said:
I don't have my phone with me but as far as I remember the steps are almost exactly the same as for MLT/LDB disable.
Only you click the button about logging instead of MLT, one or two rows below. Then you have to tap "disable" button until every logging service below is set to "Disabled".
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This option is called Log Services above the LDB function in the hidden menu. Unfortunately all these services I have already disabled :/

Another hint. Make sure that the built-in flash does not light when receiving calls and messages. You may not notice it, because the phone is always on the back.
This can be turned off: Settings> Accessibility> listening> Alarming flash
Tomorrow I will check how much battery I saved

My idle drain was over 60mAh per hour and over a day this was more than used by the screen. The Greenify aggressive doze helps, as does restricting mobile data in the background plus disabling all the bloat. Adding in the LDB hack has reduced idle drain to less than 40mAh per hour, not perfect but much better. To me it looks like LG thought the larger battery meant they could turn on all their rubbish and we wouldn't notice...

Going back to the subject, disabling the flash, acting as the notification light, did not bring about much improvement in battery life.
boomboomer said:
My idle drain was over 60mAh per hour and over a day this was more than used by the screen. The Greenify aggressive doze helps, as does restricting mobile data in the background plus disabling all the bloat. Adding in the LDB hack has reduced idle drain to less than 40mAh per hour, not perfect but much better. To me it looks like LG thought the larger battery meant they could turn on all their rubbish and we wouldn't notice...
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Every big smartphone manufacturer throws a lot of his ****. The most important thing is to optimize your Android overlay for battery saving. Not every manufacturer handles it satisfactorily

https://youtu.be/iPpuYxJUGro
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https://youtu.be/iPpuYxJUGro
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Thanks for the link. Some interesting information was in this video. The most interesting, because I've never seen it before, was to turn off Bluetooth scanning, which works even when Bluetooth is turned off.
To do this, go to settings> location> three dots> scanning> Bluetooth scanning

It seems that there are no hard and fast rules about this. Without any modification whatsoever on my G6, idle goes about 1% every 2 hours or so, even with light use. I'm running the v11d update of Oct 21. The update improved battery life that was already good. At the end of a workday, with bluetooth active and light to moderate use and a trip with Waze I typically have 75% left. It may be a regional issue with firmwares running slightly different apps in the background depending on where you are, or maybe difference in cell tower distances-- with a weak signal the phone radio powers up higher. Maybe LDB isn't used in my region (Middle East/Israel)

Are people using apps such as greenify, force doze, hibernation manager or clean master and if so what benefits in standby drain are they experiencing? Are these apps any good and do they create any problems of their own? From personal experience removing QuickMemo using adb commands improved my battery standby drain a little. What changes should be made in developer options to improve battery life such as animations or limit background processes etc. Nougat is set up to manage battery life in a certain way, so I just want to make sure I don’t make any changes or install any 3rd party apps that make my battery life even worse. What I have come to realise is that the G6 and the snapdragon 821 are not set up for efficient battery standby. Previously, I had a vodaphone smart ultra 6 (rebadge zte blade) with a 3000mah battery on marshmallow that would last upto 4 days on a single charge!