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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
brandon2x said:
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
brandon2x said:
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.
To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!
Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...
Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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Which is your favorite ROM and why?
Should make a poll with the most popular ROMs listed as an option, but I'll start.
Stock + Root - I really don't like installing custom ROMs on devices that don't need them. My tablet has full functionality at good speed with stock.
Also, ART
AidenM said:
Should make a poll with the most popular ROMs listed as an option, but I'll start.
Stock + Root - I really don't like installing custom ROMs on devices that don't need them. My tablet has full functionality at good speed with stock.
Also, ART
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I'm vaguely familiar with ART. How does it compare to Dalvik?
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I'm vaguely familiar with ART. How does it compare to Dalvik?
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Well, in terms of raw speed, it definitely seems snappier that dalvik. However, it takes longer to install APKs and every time you clear your cache be willing to wait for a while for it to re-"compile" your apps.
But using it depends on your apps - most of mine work with ART, so I use it. I know some apps like Whatsapp don't work with ART yet, so if you know your apps don't work don't bother to try it - you'll just get a bunch of force closes.
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Well, in terms of raw speed, it definitely seems snappier that dalvik. However, it takes longer to install APKs and every time you clear your cache be willing to wait for a while for it to re-"compile" your apps.
But using it depends on your apps - most of mine work with ART, so I use it. I know some apps like Whatsapp don't work with ART yet, so if you know your apps don't work don't bother to try it - you'll just get a bunch of force closes.
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I haven't had a tablet since my TF700T which I returned after a few days because it L-A-G-G-E-D like nothing I have ever seen before.
I don't even know what apps to get besides the ones I have on my phone, so I'm sure ART won't be an issue.
I always install a ROM on my stuff because I like the extra customization I get, especially when it comes to the lock screen. Also, since I'm not a developer and don't understand that much about development, I trust that some of the ROMs allow snappier use and bug fixes from original Android. For instance, I have been reading everywhere that 4.4 is having some serious issues. I would hope these are fixed with a dedicated developer working on a custom ROM.
Hi, I'm afraid we don't allow threads that encourage comparisons between ROMs. It tends to cause flaming and disagreements, also its unfair to the devs that put the work in.
ROMs tend to react differently depending on the individual set up so its bet to try a few and see what's best for you.
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Chris
Hello. I just received my new 6P, having upgraded from a 2nd Gen Moto X. Prior to that I was a flashaholic on my S4, and S2 before that. Basically, I've been out of the Custom ROM game for a while.
I'm wondering whether to root and install custom on my Nexus, with the following goals in mind:
1. I’d like to stay very, very close to stock.
2. I'd like bug free and stable.
3. Ability to increase battery life by tweaking Doze to kick in faster.
4. Keep Android Pay and Project Fi working
Any recommendations based on that criteria? I'm currently teaching overseas, so I feel like my ability to work through bugs and issues is a bit more limited than it is when I'm back in the States.
Thanks so much.
Check out Pure Nexus.. I just installed it and so far its great!
Given that you are overseas and less able to deal with potential twists and turns of rooting and ROMing... I suggest you remain stock. This is just my opinion but I think some people are diving into rooting, ROMing, launcher-ing this phone the minute they get it because they did it on their previous carrier phone before they even give the true 6P Android experience a chance. (I don't think that applies to previous Nexus owners though)
This phone is amazing in its stock form. The only thing on your list that you won't get by remaining stock is the ability to tweak doze. Doze works quite well in its stock form. If you can charge your phone every night, I wonder if you will even find that you need to tweak doze. If you have periods where you can plug it in during the day with fast charging, there is definitely no pressing reason to tweak doze.
I know this tends to be a more root/ROM forum so my opinion here may be in the minority. I just wanted to toss out one perspective.
Hope you enjoy the phone!
Yeah, that's the thing.,.. I love stock. I do miss some minor cosmetic customisation options, but for the most part, I'm not looking to blow the whole thing up like I was on my Galaxy S phones with TouchWiz. I'm definitely leaning on staying stock over here and maybe playing around with it when we come home for the summer.
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Yeah, that's the thing.,.. I love stock. I do miss some minor cosmetic customisation options, but for the most part, I'm not looking to blow the whole thing up like I was on my Galaxy S phones with TouchWiz. I'm definitely leaning on staying stock over here and maybe playing around with it when we come home for the summer.
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I would definitely unlock the bootloader before you get the phone set up and maybe apply systemless root, but then give stock a go for some time and see how you like it. Then maybe try adding some third party apps like Nova Launcher and Custom Quick Settings (the latter requires root). Stock MM is really very nice.
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I would definitely unlock the bootloader before you get the phone set up and maybe apply systemless root, but then give stock a go for some time and see how you like it. Then maybe try adding some third party apps like Nova Launcher and Custom Quick Settings (the latter requires root). Stock MM is really very nice.
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I'm assuming you say unlock the bootloader now just because it wipes everything if/when I do it later?
Dugan1017 said:
I'm assuming you say unlock the bootloader now just because it wipes everything if/when I do it later?
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Yes!
Dugan1017 said:
I'm assuming you say unlock the bootloader now just because it wipes everything if/when I do it later?
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Yes, exactly. Heisenberg has a guide if you should need any help.
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I would definitely unlock the bootloader before you get the phone set up and maybe apply systemless root, but then give stock a go for some time and see how you like it. Then maybe try adding some third party apps like Nova Launcher and Custom Quick Settings (the latter requires root). Stock MM is really very nice.
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Agreed, that's what I'd suggest, too. Once rooted, you can use NapTime to tweak Doze to kick in earlier. You can't use it's "aggressive" option, as it has a bug and kills stuff like being able to download new apps from the Play Store, but you can still tweak the times to make it kick in a lot sooner.
I followed the H guide and learnt/learned new stuff. Unlocking and ROM has allowed me to access the fun little options that stock couldn't give to me.
My personal favourites are really quite small things: battery display and clock centered.
I do wonder why though Chroma and Pure nexus are so popular compared to the rest in terms of views and responses. Surely this is an indication of worth, right? Or is it simply following the masses after those Roms were first in, first to serve?
Stock rom is great. I use Xposed and a few modules to get my customization fix!
Hello,
This is my first nexus, getting it tomorrow (12th) really looking forward to it, got the graphite one (getting a case so doesn't matter to me)
Im quite excited about the development, it looks quite busy which is great, I'd just like to ask if anyone has any screen off animations, like the CRT effect or the s6 slide to the edge animation, I'm pretty sure xposed provides these but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
I'll be rooting day one as I've always done on my phones and then off on the hunt for a rom.. Glad to be a part of the nexus gang for once, hope it's as good as I've heard..
Second question was list view animations, again I'm aware that there are xposed mods XUI mod which can do these for me, but again I'd like to avoid them.. I think there will be some roms with this feature baked in but thought I'd ask anyway just incase there isn't..
Thanks chaps.
dladz said:
Hello,
This is my first nexus, getting it tomorrow (12th) really looking forward to it, got the graphite one (getting a case so doesn't matter to me)
Im quite excited about the development, it looks quite busy which is great, I'd just like to ask if anyone has any screen off animations, like the CRT effect or the s6 slide to the edge animation, I'm pretty sure xposed provides these but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
I'll be rooting day one as I've always done on my phones and then off on the hunt for a rom.. Glad to be a part of the nexus gang for once, hope it's as good as I've heard..
Second question was list view animations, again I'm aware that there are xposed mods XUI mod which can do these for me, but again I'd like to avoid them.. I think there will be some roms with this feature baked in but thought I'd ask anyway just incase there isn't..
Thanks chaps.
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sorry I have no idea about the screen off animation, didn't look at it tbh but mind if I ask why would you avoid xposed if you will root?
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sorry I have no idea about the screen off animation, didn't look at it tbh but mind if I ask why would you avoid xposed if you will root?
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Not OP, but I've also been avoiding xposed. My impression is that I've seen enough negative comments about unpredictable behavior when paired with Franco Kernel, I think Franco himself may have even commented on it, and if I have to choose between the two I'm going with FK. I wish xposed could be super stable and compatible and predictable though, because I'm dying for some of it's features and I don't want to leave the stock ROM.
ALSO, it wasn't immediately apparent the requirements for using it, and the processes to install it (there are multiple parts, right? there used to be), and where we go for an aggregated list of mods like Cydia on iOS. Seemed like too much work for too much potential buginess.
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Not OP, but I've also been avoiding xposed. My impression is that I've seen enough negative comments about unpredictable behavior when paired with Franco Kernel, I think Franco himself may have even commented on it, and if I have to choose between the two I'm going with FK. I wish xposed could be super stable and compatible and predictable though, because I'm dying for some of it's features and I don't want to leave the stock ROM.
ALSO, it wasn't immediately apparent the requirements for using it, and the processes to install it (there are multiple parts, right? there used to be), and where we go for an aggregated list of mods like Cydia on iOS. Seemed like too much work for too much potential buginess.
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Can't speak to the Franco kernel but I have used Xposed with Kylo, stock and God's kernel and have never had one issue with Xposed. You have to flash the installer with TWRP but otherwise its super easy.
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sorry I have no idea about the screen off animation, didn't look at it tbh but mind if I ask why would you avoid xposed if you will root?
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Its a fair question, and the answer is unpredictable battery drain, extremely poorly updated and Un optimized mods, obviously not all of them but a lot.
As I said in the OP the list view animation has been done, I've had it on CandyRom on my M9, it works really well but I haven't seen a screen off animation since kit kat, the stock animation now is to fade away, if you slow down animations within development settings you'll see it on locking your phone. I'd just like a one time mod to be able to alter that to something else.
Once you've got it on your phone you like it and get used to it then you miss it when it's not there.
Personally I would like to avoid xposed, it does have a negative impact on your battery for that I'm sure.
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Can't speak to the Franco kernel but I have used Xposed with Kylo, stock and God's kernel and have never had one issue with Xposed. You have to flash the installer with TWRP but otherwise its super easy.
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I actually wrote a tutorial on how to install xposed and the two above modules however after doing this and living with it vs not having xposed, same apps same rom. There was a huge difference in battery performance, hence why I'd like to avoid xposed altogether.
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Not OP, but I've also been avoiding xposed. My impression is that I've seen enough negative comments about unpredictable behavior when paired with Franco Kernel, I think Franco himself may have even commented on it, and if I have to choose between the two I'm going with FK. I wish xposed could be super stable and compatible and predictable though, because I'm dying for some of it's features and I don't want to leave the stock ROM.
ALSO, it wasn't immediately apparent the requirements for using it, and the processes to install it (there are multiple parts, right? there used to be), and where we go for an aggregated list of mods like Cydia on iOS. Seemed like too much work for too much potential buginess.
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This is part of my problem too. If there are stand alone mods I'd prefer them over xposed.
Its like having the Facebook messenger app when the original Facebook app was more than enough, why have two apps when 1 will do.
There used to be stand alone mods for older devices, I'm not sure if it's possible any more or its just because there's less demand for it, but I always ask when I get a new phone.
dladz said:
I actually wrote a tutorial on how to install xposed and the two above modules however after doing this and living with it vs not having xposed, same apps same rom. There was a huge difference in battery performance, hence why I'd like to avoid xposed altogether.
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Interesting. Definitely not my experience... I have used Xposed from the start and get about 5 hours SOT as a standard with WiFi, cellular and GPS on all day (solid signal in NYC). Are you getting significantly more than 5 hours SOT without Xposed?
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Its a fair question, and the answer is unpredictable battery drain, extremely poorly updated and Un optimized mods, obviously not all of them but a lot.
As I said in the OP the list view animation has been done, I've had it on CandyRom on my M9, it works really well but I haven't seen a screen off animation since kit kat, the stock animation now is to fade away, if you slow down animations within development settings you'll see it on locking your phone. I'd just like a one time mod to be able to alter that to something else.
Once you've got it on your phone you like it and get used to it then you miss it when it's not there.
Personally I would like to avoid xposed, it does have a negative impact on your battery for that I'm sure.
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I haven't noticed any difference in battery after installing xposed. I'm running on the stock rom/kernal with 0 issues. I use xposed for Gravity box , gesture nav, greenify, and youtube background playback. Maybe it's something with the modules you've downloaded.
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I haven't noticed any difference in battery after installing xposed. I'm running on the stock rom/kernal with 0 issues. I use xposed for Gravity box , gesture nav, greenify, and youtube background playback. Maybe it's something with the modules you've downloaded.
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Perhaps, but the point is, if you could have the modifications which you've obtained through xposed without actually using an exploit like xposed, would you? I think you would.
This is what i'm looking for.
PS: Just got my 6P and i have to say it's one good looking phone, coming from the M9 too, it's very nice, i'm happy with it up to now for sure.
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Interesting. Definitely not my experience... I have used Xposed from the start and get about 5 hours SOT as a standard with WiFi, cellular and GPS on all day (solid signal in NYC). Are you getting significantly more than 5 hours SOT without Xposed?
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I also don't want to spark a debate here as it's besides the point of what i originally asked, xposed is an app that allows mods, i personally given the chance would prefer to have the mods on their own, i know they can be done as i've seen them on previous devices (see my phone list below)
Just want to know if they exist on this device ? As it's a nexus i'd assumed that it was one of the most modded types of android out there.
Either way i'm more than happy with the device, it's a nice bit of kit.
Just my two cents here though to settle what you'd asked me, do i notice better battery without xposed, well yes i have noticed it to be better, a clean flash and then back to a normal rom and battery has been better.
There are many benefits to being without xposed, bug reporting for one, if you have xposed you can't bug report as it invalidates it, for me battery has been substandard with it, so i'm hoping with this phone i can avoid it and get the mods in a flashable zip.
Hoping
dladz said:
I also don't want to spark a debate here as it's besides the point of what i originally asked, xposed is an app that allows mods, i personally given the chance would prefer to have the mods on their own, i know they can be done as i've seen them on previous devices (see my phone list below)
Just want to know if they exist on this device ? As it's a nexus i'd assumed that it was one of the most modded types of android out there.
Either way i'm more than happy with the device, it's a nice bit of kit.
Just my two cents here though to settle what you'd asked me, do i notice better battery without xposed, well yes i have noticed it to be better, a clean flash and then back to a normal rom and battery has been better.
There are many benefits to being without xposed, bug reporting for one, if you have xposed you can't bug report as it invalidates it, for me battery has been substandard with it, so i'm hoping with this phone i can avoid it and get the mods in a flashable zip.
Hoping
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No worries...was more curious about your experience. If you were getting 8 hours SOT or something i would drop Xposed like a hot rock haha. I normally would go the ROM route but I have to use Airwatch for work and every ROM I tried made the device show as compromised.
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No worries...was more curious about your experience. If you were getting 8 hours SOT or something i would drop Xposed like a hot rock haha. I normally would go the ROM route but I have to use Airwatch for work and every ROM I tried made the device show as compromised.
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What about using an older version of the app, that's how I use my banking app, the new one won't work but a few versions before and its all good.
Try it , might be OK.
I never measured screen on time, I measure by days, and events during the day, like how much battery on the way home, similar usage but xposed used more, from what I saw.
I would like to know if anyone else is having the problems I am having, and possible a solution.
Multiple times a day and seemingly random times, the phone heats up temendesly and starts lagging really badly, sometimes so bad I can't even unlock it.
I can't figure out if something is causing it because alot of the time it starts happening while its in my pocket, locked. Alot of the time when it does heat up it just stays hot, so I have to turn it off and leave it for 5-10 minutes to allow it to cool down. Once it has cooled down and I switch it back on, it seems to stay cool (Untill it has another episode and overheats again).
But then other times, I can be watching videos or playing games and it is very responsive and doesn't heat up more than it should, how ever this is rare.
I searched the forums but only found one related post. They had their phone replaced once, and so have I for other reasons. Could I have a defective unit?
Are there any apps I can use to monitor resource usage to maybe see if its a rougue app or system process?
I will also mention that I am using the Hyperion extended battery for the phone, but im not sure if it plays a roll in the issue, as the battery itself does not seem to get hot, only the CPU (I can feel it very hot where the figureprint scanner is)
I have not tested the phone with the stock battery, how ever I may try this.
Thanks,
Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down. Also kernel auditor (needs root) shows cpu/gpu/battery temps right on the "overall" section.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?
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Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?
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I might try stock battery tomorrow if I can find where I put it.
Not rooted currently.
Also not sure how to boot to safe mode?
Also just to clarify, it overheats all the time, not just when locked. I will try a temp monitoring app to see what its at when its overheating
Safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, press and hold Power off.
When prompted to restart in Safe Mode, tap OK.
After your device restarts, it displays Safe mode at the bottom of the screen.
Uninstall apps that are causing a problem.
Turn off safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, tap Power off and restart.
The device will restart and Safe mode overlay will no longer show on the screen.
So I haven't tried stock battery or safe mode, but I did a reset on the phone. The phone has been running great. After about 2 weeks now its starting to slow again, heat up a lot more. I am really puzzled to why this is happening. I'm not sure if it is a app I have installed. Are there any apps that monitor usage on the phone? Or any other ideas why I keep experiencing these problems.
Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
Still_living714 said:
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two [emoji111]️ cents.
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Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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tylerw1369 said:
Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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I've tried all custom kernels for h918 and its all the same. Maybe it works for you but didn't work for me
Still_living714 said:
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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But if we are honest here, the phone should not be slowing down after a few weeks usage. It should stay running almost as good as a fresh phone/reset. My old GN3 slowed down after all my apps, sure, but not like this phone does.
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Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.
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Maybe i'm confused by what you mean, but doesn't that mean that should only affect me if I am Rooted? Although I am thinking of rooting and trying different Kernels if it helps.
These are the types of issues I am getting. I know someone else through my job who has the same phone but does not have these issues. Is it faulty? Would a kernel fix it and are there any for my model ? (H990DS) I can't seem to find any for this phone. Send help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9rDd_UY6w
I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app
It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file
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I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app
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I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
maxi65 said:
It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file
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Singularity_iOS said:
I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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well it's going to take time to figure out something like this out. what I would do is root and then use something like SystemPanel 2 https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-systempanel2-boost-clean-t3552690 and see the live view of what's currently using up CPU. what's good about this app is that it gives you an overview of usage over 3, 8, 24 hours so you can see what was using the most CPU during a certain range of time. but it would be best to see if you can have this app running for a bit and check it right when the lag is occurring.
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I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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Due to file extension error, i can't post the file here but here is the link Of the thread but you gonna need to root the device
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705[/url]
Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.
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Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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With Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.
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Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.
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Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.
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Maybe on your next contract renewal look at going a SIM-only plan. Changes your world.