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I was under a family plan with Sprint until today with my old Optimus G (yeah I don't upgrade often). I work in a warehouse and was on the upper level, and my friend who I love so much for this pushed me and I dropped the phone 25 feet and the screen went to oblivion.
I've always been dissatisfied with Sprints cell reception so I decided to switch to Verizon and get a new phone, the G4.
Got back home after switching over, powered on, made a few calls everythings great. Then I had the opportunity to scroll down a page. Lord have mercy.... My Optimus G kept up with my finger 20x faster than this phone does. The lag between my finger movement and screen movement is unbearable.
I couldn't find anything online so I disabled dual window and it helped a LITTLE.
So I came here looking for help and advice as this phone should be performing MUCH better and give me a much better experience.
Other than this I absolutely LOVE this phone
Also no screen protector. I find myself tapping hard or twice to register it.
No such issues on mine. Sound like a hardware problem.
No issue with mine. A few threads went over this problem too. People had to swap out their phones
I believe it is all the Verizon bloatware installed on the phone. I disabled all of the bloat applications or any that I would never use and also got rid of the LG widget on the home screen. It is noticeably faster but there is still bloat that can't be removed without rooting. My Nexus 5 was honestly faster but we switched from AT&T to Verizon because the service at our house with AT&T sucks.
I don't think it could be a hardware issue because when I open apps it opens them insanely fast with no delay, it's just scrolling
Could it be because I'm not using the stock launcher and instead Apex Launcher?
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Could it be because I'm not using the stock launcher and instead Apex Launcher?
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No that should make it faster. Try nova
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Could it be because I'm not using the stock launcher and instead Apex Launcher?
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Nope its not the launcher. Its something buggy with the software or just the way the IPS screen works that can hopefully be patched via an update.
I was having major issues when I started using the phone but I disabled dual window and also sort of changed the way I used the phone by making sure I'm pressing it firmly.
I would be returning that phone. If it's doing it after a fresh factory reset, there is a problem. Mine is very responsive. No problems with lag or touch/tap.
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I was under a family plan with Sprint until today with my old Optimus G (yeah I don't upgrade often). I work in a warehouse and was on the upper level, and my friend who I love so much for this pushed me and I dropped the phone 25 feet and the screen went to oblivion.
I've always been dissatisfied with Sprints cell reception so I decided to switch to Verizon and get a new phone, the G4.
Got back home after switching over, powered on, made a few calls everythings great. Then I had the opportunity to scroll down a page. Lord have mercy.... My Optimus G kept up with my finger 20x faster than this phone does. The lag between my finger movement and screen movement is unbearable.
I couldn't find anything online so I disabled dual window and it helped a LITTLE.
So I came here looking for help and advice as this phone should be performing MUCH better and give me a much better experience.
Other than this I absolutely LOVE this phone
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This is a known thing that has been talk about in many threads..lg knows about it..it also only is happening to the us variants...it's most likly a software problem so we will just need to wait for an update..or for too an the aesome devs to work there magic an see if they can't fix it
I disabled a bunch of bloatware (but not all of it, not sure what I will use) and it is already night and day. I've had a rooted phone without bloat for so many years I had no idea that bloatware would make that much of a difference. It is still a little behind my finger but as buttery smooth as it is I won't complain.
Thanks for the input guys!
Could it have anything to do with the temperature of my hands? They're pretty cold right now
juliend said:
I would be returning that phone. If it's doing it after a fresh factory reset, there is a problem. Mine is very responsive. No problems with lag or touch/tap.
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Agreed. Not a single problem with my G4
I'm also hearing late June for VZW update. Maybe fix some issues.
Well after work I went to the phone and it was snappy as can be. I suppose it needed to warm up or something. But now it feels like a lizard gliding on ice.
Thanks everybody!!!!
Cannot wait for a safe root to come out. Although I would be wasting 10 bucks a month for insurance I assume right?
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It's well-known issue here and it effects all variants.
You can vote and comment in this thread -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/poll-g4-misses-unresponsive-to-touch-t3131276
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
Yes i am pretty happy with this phone.. No touch issues for me 10 fingers are registering nicely.but sometimes 2 or 3 times out of 100 knockcodes says wrong but taps are registering i think its my fault that i enter knockcode incorretly.
Right now i m using lg keyboard and no lag at all..
Battery is seems ok to me i m using games skype fb viber intertnet browsing all day and i got 4 hours of screenon time with brightness level 75%.
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By far the best phone I've ever purchased. Very happy with all aspects of the phone. I do no notice any missed touches or incorrect knock codes as long as I'm going at a reasonable speed. Everything works wonderfully. The camera is amazing and I am incredibly impressed with the OS. 100% satisfied here!
Me too. Best phone ever. Camera is amazing too
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No issues for me even snapiest than S6 imo. Perfect phone
Battery routinely gives me 4+ hrs sot. Great camera. Great colorful screen, probably my favorite feature.
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I unlocked bootloader and rooted installed adaway and remove some bloatware
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Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Absolutely zero issues. Perfect screen, touch is responsive, no heating up, no lag, camera takes gorgeous pictures.
I get occasional lag, but for all I know is it's an app (I'm a techie so I'd like to think all of my apps are legitimate but who knows).
No hardware issues, etc.
I voted "Yes" because I have some issues but those are so minor that I don't really care about them too much... It's a really great phone and I highly recommend it...
Great phone
My first post but I wanted to chime in on this thread. I have read this forum a lot since I am interested in root access. I feel like there is a vocal minority that hates the phone, primarily because of lack of root, and wanted to offer perspective from someone who's mostly a regular user.
I mostly love the phone. I previously had a Galaxy S4, and have had this for 3 weeks. There are many little things that make it overall a great piece of hardware.
- No buttons on the side. I can't tell you how much of a design improvement this. Never accidentally press anything, hold it how you want, put it in any clip-type mount, no issues. It takes about a day to get used to using the back controls and then it's joy.
- Phone feels great in your hand. It's the perfect size, shape and weight, and you can switch the on-screen navigation buttons so "back" is where I was used to it on the S4 (the right side). I never really felt comfortable holding the S4. Would often flip it out of my hand while trying to one-handed operate it.
- Beautiful big screen. The slight curve feels perfect in your pocket.
- The default launcher is actually very nice. Some nice little things like you can shove 7 across on the task bar and it will shrink the icons to fit them; good folders implementation; apps/widgets tabs. It's unintrusive and gets most stuff right.
- The IR blaster actually works.
- Mine is Verizon and annoyingly they disabled some features, but the only thing I really cared about I got back with a shortcuts (native phone number blacklist). And access Lock, vital.
- Shortcut to camera with volume-down button, nice. (And of course the camera is stunning)
- Battery life has been fantastic for me. I've gone two days on a single charge with moderate use. I don't keep the screen incredibly bright, though, this is definitely the biggest power sucker.
- No overheating issues. This was infuriating on the S4, I couldn't run Waze on a summer day without it literally shutting itself down half the time.
- And of course the whole reason I got this instead of an S6 in the first place... removable battery and my 128 gig of storage
I haven't had any touchscreen issues. I did install the OTA update which was pushed to my phone the same day I got it. (I hope I don't come to regret this w.r.t. root...)
So while I wish I could root it, the lack of root access isn't actually making my life miserable in any way. The only reason I rooted the S4 it was because of the lack of SD card write access under Kit Kat, and because Verizon pushed an update that actually broke the S4 causing random reboots which was fixable by removing Knox.
The SD card is not an issue with Lollipop. That said, once I had root access on the S4, of course I installed the Xposed Framework and played with stuff, like adding flashlight to my reboot menu (hey, this is already on the pulldown menu built into my G4!). But there is really nothing I couldn't live without.
So I'd love to be able to root this thing, but here's exactly what I am missing without root compared to the S4:
1. Full ad blocking (I can block over wifi with a proxy, so it's just an issue for cellular data)
2. Greenify that has native access to stop apps.
I have since just started using Greenify as my screen-off button and this is satisfactory (though I still see some apps like Skype that like to just resurrect themselves randomly, not much I can do here). The ad thing is not really that big a deal for me. I don't spend a ton of time reading ad-heavy web sites over cellular data, while I've certainly noticed ads a little more than I used to, it's not making me crazy. There's no dealbreaking functional issue such as I had with the S4 that makes me feel like I will cry if I never get root.
So there you have it, very happy LG G4 user.
I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I remember reading here on XDA a way to have adblock on cellular. I think you need to create a new APN and add a proxy to that APN I tried this on my s6 and it worked.
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I did find a description of a method to do this while researching the issue, but I don't think it's possible on this phone. The methods described involved options that were not available. (No proxy config, can't create new cell data profile). I looked for shortcuts that might expose hidden options but couldn't find anything relevant.
Anyone elses g4 mistake a swipe up gesture for a tap when scrolling? Ill be scrolling xda or any other app and i swipe to go farther down and the phone will mistake it for a tap and click on reply or photo or something, pretty annoying but just wondering if anyone elses g4 does this
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I have the H815 verison and besides double tap to wake sometimes needing 3-4 taps to wake up, the phone is flawless (as it should be for what I paid for it lol).
I voted no problem, but I have a small issue with double tap to wake.
It seems that occasionally the phone is locked and at the knock screen even when several Smart Unlock conditions are met (location, connected to bluetooth, etc.). If I double tap, it doesn't wake because it's still locked and expecting a knock code. This double tap wakes the phone, but doesn't always turn on the screen. The second double tap usually unlocks the phone, but occasionally it only wakes to the knock code screen. If I pause for a moment, it'll usually Smart Unlock and all is well.
I seem to have less of a problem with this if High Accuracy Location Mode is on. In GPS only mode this was happening all the time. Hopefully there will be an update to prioritize Bluetooth for Smart Unlock.
DeadSOL said:
Hey, everyone!
I, for one, am sitting on the fence with the decision on whether or not to buy the G4. Since there are so many threads talking about the various issues with the G4, I thought that I would ask those of you who don't have any issues. Let's balance the arguments so that more of us can decide on whether we want to buy the phone or not.
So... Who is perfectly happy with their phone and would you recommend it?
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Using it for a couple days now. Its a great phone. Am patiently waiting for Root then it'd be perfect
Wow. Thanks for the replies, people.
The poll results seem neck-and-neck right now but it's great to know that there are several people with no issues. Software issues can always be fixed so that's an upside.
Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
Bootup said:
Interesting how there are people that say they have no issues other than swipes not registering correctly or double tap doesn't work all the time or there is something often lagging....
Those are issues...
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It feels like a small software issue.
If you check out the horror stories in this forum, you'll see how people are really giving this phone bad press. Compared to that, a couple of taps not registering for Knock On doesn't seem so bad.
Hi all,
Just switched to the s8 from a google pixel.
Beautiful phone, but if is noticeably slower, in many ways:
1. Poor screen responsiveness of the keyboard. Typing on SwiftKey is slower on the s8 than the pixel. It seems that take a split second longer to recognise the touch.
2. Scrolling stuttering. The pixel's scrolling is buttery smooth. The s8 seems to be seriously slopping frames for something as simple as scrolling a page of text on chrome!
3. App switcher. It's really very jelly compared to the buttery smooth Pixel.
Anyone else experienced these issues, and /or have any thoughts?
I had moments yesterday where my S8 had skipped or stuttered, but it's been perfect today.
No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Has been butter smooth for me and I have not noticed any lag on the keyboard or in any screen. Not sure why you are experiencing such poor performance.
Pixel is bare bones and Samsung is full of features and customization (some useful and others a waste). Samsung is know for bloatware which slows the phone down, but my S8 is fluid.
I noticed the same thing
I noticed a delay with my s8 compared to the pixel xl when I happened to switch between apps on both. To test it out I opened up the same two apps and double tapped the toggle window button. The s8 is slower and not as smooth. There may be an animation speed setting that makes it faster but still seems like it wouldn't be as smooth.
Typing this in noticing swift key going slower too.
My battery is at 15% so maybe something is optimizing it and slowing it down...
Started having problems again. Ironically, similar to the problems that caused me to switch from the S4 to the S8 and to what the OP mentions.. Freezing of apps and high battery draw. Stuttering and slow to switch apps and unlock. Problems with keyboard not recording keystrokes. Then it goes b as back to being perfect again.
There is an update ready, but I'm having flashbacks to the update that locked the S4 down. I know this phone is already locked down more than the S4 ever was, but still...
No problems here. It's really fast. Faster than my old S6 Edge.
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No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell
I always disable window animation in developer tools. Make it way better for me. I don't like window animation.
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Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell
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Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol
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Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol
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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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Mine is noticeably slower than my Nexus 6p even. Love the screen but touchwiz is a joke. Starting to regret my purchase.
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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed
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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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I can't remember if we can just download it and then once it offers to install maybe we could ignore it but I forgot if that was the case for 7.0 update for s7e
I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.
I'm experiencing the stuttering apps. As mentioned in this thread, disabling window animations has helped with this experience.
This is my first android phone since the HTC one X.
Can we expect any custome ROMs? Or updates to improve performance?
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I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.
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Not all apps are created equal, some are smoother than others simply because they're written differently.
Hi everyone, has anyone discovered which is the best most reliable way to unlock the new galaxy? I've been playing around with iris unlock and face recognition (since the fingerprint scanner accuracy looks pretty ****, with the case that I got at least) but I'm not sure which is better or even if one is better than the other. Sometimes they're both insanely fast but some other times they take a while
JohnPyn said:
Hi everyone, has anyone discovered which is the best most reliable way to unlock the new galaxy? I've been playing around with iris unlock and face recognition (since the fingerprint scanner accuracy looks pretty ****, with the case that I got at least) but I'm not sure which is better or even if one is better than the other. Sometimes they're both insanely fast but some other times they take a while
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I use the iris scanner trick is when unlocking look into the area of the red light unlocks in a heartbeat.
Facial recognition is easy to fool with a picture so iris scanner all the way. I have registered by iris and fingerprints for all scenarios.
Might want to register the same finger more than once. Maybe that will help.
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I use the iris scanner trick is when unlocking look into the area of the red light unlocks in a heartbeat.
Facial recognition is easy to fool with a picture so iris scanner all the way. I have registered by iris and fingerprints for all scenarios.
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Well you are 100% correct thanks a lot for this insane trick! Tbh I don't care much about protection, I was just looking for the fastest one that would offer protection from friends and stuff like that (for instance if I lay the phone on the table and it gets picked up by someone) but you seem to have that down, thanks a lot!
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Well you are 100% correct thanks a lot for this insane trick! Tbh I don't care much about protection, I was just looking for the fastest one that would offer protection from friends and stuff like that (for instance if I lay the phone on the table and it gets picked up by someone) but you seem to have that down, thanks a lot!
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No worries mate it's the simple things that help.
love the phone, hate the unlock, moving from my S6 this is a total nightmare, i'm actually considering sacking it off its so bad. Fingprint is a faff so thats out of the window, its also impossible which most non samsung cases as they are too thick. IRIS, total waste of time, works about 1 in 50 for me, too dependant on lighting conditions, this was never going to work though was it, just a gimmick.
So we are left with location unlocking and face recog, face recog seems to be ok but its far from secure.
Another issues ive found is that if you are using a non samsung flip case and are using an auto screen lock app that triggers when you close your case, and then opens the screen when you open your case.... face recog and location recog no longer works, you are left with pin only which is also a pain.
I guess the only way to do this would be to shell out on a genuine samsung case, so thats another £35.
Its a very pretty phone but its left me feeling underwhelmed due to these and a few other issues I wont bore people with, my S6 is still a better phone in some respects.
Maybe I'm weird, but I actually like the fingerprint sensor. Especially when taking the S8 out of my pocket.
I've set both the iris and face unlocks to activate when the screen turns on, which makes them super quick, but I've been using the face unlock more because my eyes hurt when I use the iris scanner. But maybe this is just in my head. Anyone else experiencing this? The iris scanner is better because it is more secure and works in any lighting...but I think my retinas are burning
Yeah I got use to the fingerprint position.. I use both pin and fingerprint.
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Maybe I'm weird, but I actually like the fingerprint sensor. Especially when taking the S8 out of my pocket.
I've set both the iris and face unlocks to activate when the screen turns on, which makes them super quick, but I've been using the face unlock more because my eyes hurt when I use the iris scanner. But maybe this is just in my head. Anyone else experiencing this? The iris scanner is better because it is more secure and works in any lighting...but I think my retinas are burning
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It can happen with iris scanner since it's using infra red light. Samsung warn us when we setup the iris scanner. You should stop using it
I tried all methods to see what's the best for me.
There are 2 modes for face recognition. One is faster, the other one is more secure. With the second one, your phone can't be fooled with a picture, video or a selfie of you. But I don't really like it because it doesn't always works, depending on light, of your position, posture, etc...
I'm left-handed, so the fingerprint sensor is not ideally positioned. But depending on how I grab my phone, it can be convinient to use it.
I think the iris scanner is the best unlocking choice. It's the most secure way to unlock a phone in the world, it's fast, can't be fooled, it works as well in full sun as at night (it doesn't need light to work, infra-red).
So I use the iris scanner and fingerprint scanner daily
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It can happen with iris scanner since it's using infra red light. Samsung warn us when we setup the iris scanner. You should stop using it
I tried all methods to see what's the best for me.
There are 2 modes for face recognition. One is faster, the other one is more secure. With the second one, your phone can't be fooled with a picture, video or a selfie of you. But I don't really like it because it doesn't always works, depending on light, of your position, posture, etc...
I'm left-handed, so the fingerprint sensor is not ideally positioned. But depending on how I grab my phone, it can be convinient to use it.
I think the iris scanner is the best unlocking choice. It's the most secure way to unlock a phone in the world, it's fast, can't be fooled, it works as well in full sun as at night (it doesn't need light to work, infra-red).
So I use the iris scanner and fingerprint scanner daily
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Hmm, I missed the setting to make the face unlock more secure. I need to check on that. Thanks for the tip.
Iris scanner works pretty good. I registered as indicated, in medium light room away from windows, and it works perfectly in same conditions. But outside in powerful daylight, I had problems (or I was squinting more than usual )
Fingerprint scanner works pretty fine, as well. At the beginning, I had problems, but then I realized that I registered 2 vertical fingerprints, and were recognized only with the phone in that position. Erased them and re-registered in the normal holding position (slanted as you naturally grab the phone). Now works very fast, 9 times out of 10 trials.
Face recognition is the lowest security feature (my wife didn't manage to open it, though )
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Hmm, I missed the setting to make the face unlock more secure. I need to check on that. Thanks for the tip.
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You actually need to update to the latest OS for that
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Hmm, I missed the setting to make the face unlock more secure. I need to check on that. Thanks for the tip.
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I don't think that setting is there in all variants. Someone posted a a screenshot of where that toggle is located in settings and when I looked there I didn't have it. I have an S8 on AT&T running the OTA update that pushed out yesterday. (G950USQU1AQD9)
I'm getting used to the fingerprint but the iris scanner actually works the majority of the time which I didn't expect. I'm not sure I like the idea of them introducing it for mobile payments though.
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You actually need to update to the latest OS for that
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Oh, thanks. I actually did that already.
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I don't think that setting is there in all variants. Someone posted a a screenshot of where that toggle is located in settings and when I looked there I didn't have it. I have an S8 on AT&T running the OTA update that pushed out yesterday. (G950USQU1AQD9)
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Yup. When do we get separate forums for the different variants?
Fingerprint. I just have the s8 face down so I do not have to hunt for scanner. Easy peasy.
When I bought this phone two weeks ago I was excited at the prospect of rooting it so that I could install my "goto" root apps.
I pondered it for several days and was about to root yet another device and I changed my mind. I find I am enjoying Oreo just the way it is and for me this is a nice change. I tend to root/jailbreak everything immediately. In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
Anyone else enjoy this phone without tinkering with or modifying it?
Yep same here, been having this from last year and half, the verizon variant.. Though rooting this is pain and all but just like you I was too. Much into rooting and flashing.
This phone as it is, is awesome enough.
But i liked nougot more
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It is an amazing device. The only reason I rooted it was to remove the screen retention with a custom kernel and ckal support. :good:
One thing, is there any way to increase refresh rate without rooting? Just thought about this for some reason.
With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
They've also fixed the issue of 44.1Khz audio being output as 48Khz through the DAC.
Could also be placebo but I find the DAC to perform better now on Oreo.
I'd love to have zero shutter lag & stereo speakers but that's just a mild annoyance hardly anything to worry about.
The weird thing is that my performance have seeming increased going to Oreo from having the performance mods on Nougat.
The left picture is on Nougat and the other one on Oreo.
Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
Yeah, I don't need to root this thing either. I have had this almost a year now. Upgrade to Oreo, and now happier then ever.
May be in future once we Pie ROM with second screen feature, I will think about it.
I used to have a Samsung Note 5, and rooted and flash plenty of times. But, it was a pain to keep up with updates. I learned my lesson to not root Android.
DelphinusMinor said:
Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
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I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
Not rooted as my variant H990DS does not qualifiy for bootloader unlock provided by LG
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DelphinusMinor said:
In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
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I imagine this is how most get out of the rooting game.
There has to be a serious need to do so and not just for the sake of it.
Though i still believe unless you gain admin rights over your device you do not own it.
One Twelve said:
I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
Not rooted as my variant H990DS does not qualifiy for bootloader unlock provided by LG
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Thank you. I am going to check this and a few others out.
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First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
B_in_Denver said:
First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
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If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
This is the first time I've rooted a phone for a while, due to the screen retention issue. Else, stock or AOSP unrooted is enough considering most features are available these days
zeusofyork said:
If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
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Thanks for replying, I've been trying to get into the field service menu for the last couple of days but will probably have to call VZW and try to convince them to give it to me.
Re: Xposed, since that requires root, that was the one reason I miss having root (Xposed to be able to force 3g, that's how I did it on my old rooted phones).
3mL said:
With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
For me I had had enough with screen burn and rooted this phone in last December.
3mL said:
Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
3mL said:
Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
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See, mine will show retention minutes after being booted. For example, after a fresh install of a ROM, be it LOS or Stock, I'll start noticing ghosting before I can get into the color settings or Kernel Adiutor to make the adjustments... that's just from the time in TWRP and the booting. I guess everyone's phone it a little different.