When I bought this phone two weeks ago I was excited at the prospect of rooting it so that I could install my "goto" root apps.
I pondered it for several days and was about to root yet another device and I changed my mind. I find I am enjoying Oreo just the way it is and for me this is a nice change. I tend to root/jailbreak everything immediately. In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
Anyone else enjoy this phone without tinkering with or modifying it?
Yep same here, been having this from last year and half, the verizon variant.. Though rooting this is pain and all but just like you I was too. Much into rooting and flashing.
This phone as it is, is awesome enough.
But i liked nougot more
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It is an amazing device. The only reason I rooted it was to remove the screen retention with a custom kernel and ckal support. :good:
One thing, is there any way to increase refresh rate without rooting? Just thought about this for some reason.
With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
They've also fixed the issue of 44.1Khz audio being output as 48Khz through the DAC.
Could also be placebo but I find the DAC to perform better now on Oreo.
I'd love to have zero shutter lag & stereo speakers but that's just a mild annoyance hardly anything to worry about.
The weird thing is that my performance have seeming increased going to Oreo from having the performance mods on Nougat.
The left picture is on Nougat and the other one on Oreo.
Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
Yeah, I don't need to root this thing either. I have had this almost a year now. Upgrade to Oreo, and now happier then ever.
May be in future once we Pie ROM with second screen feature, I will think about it.
I used to have a Samsung Note 5, and rooted and flash plenty of times. But, it was a pain to keep up with updates. I learned my lesson to not root Android.
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Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
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I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
Not rooted as my variant H990DS does not qualifiy for bootloader unlock provided by LG
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DelphinusMinor said:
In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
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I imagine this is how most get out of the rooting game.
There has to be a serious need to do so and not just for the sake of it.
Though i still believe unless you gain admin rights over your device you do not own it.
One Twelve said:
I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
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Thank you. I am going to check this and a few others out.
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First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
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First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
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If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
This is the first time I've rooted a phone for a while, due to the screen retention issue. Else, stock or AOSP unrooted is enough considering most features are available these days
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If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
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Thanks for replying, I've been trying to get into the field service menu for the last couple of days but will probably have to call VZW and try to convince them to give it to me.
Re: Xposed, since that requires root, that was the one reason I miss having root (Xposed to be able to force 3g, that's how I did it on my old rooted phones).
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With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
For me I had had enough with screen burn and rooted this phone in last December.
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Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
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Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
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See, mine will show retention minutes after being booted. For example, after a fresh install of a ROM, be it LOS or Stock, I'll start noticing ghosting before I can get into the color settings or Kernel Adiutor to make the adjustments... that's just from the time in TWRP and the booting. I guess everyone's phone it a little different.
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With all due respect to the great developers we have here, the Epic 4g, just as stock, not even rooted, with either launcherpro or my current favorite: go launcher ex, plus whatever apps you want is a very good phone.
If I hadn't rooted my phone, the main difference is that I wouldn't be able to use titaniumbackup to make sure if my phone crashes, I can get my app, calls and messages back. I also restart faster because of my root restart button, but that's both minor and almost the full extent of what my phone can do that the next person on stock cannot do.
Oh, I have a bunch of battery and performance tweaks that I don't even understand in my rom. So my phone probably runs smoother and longer for a given intensity of usage than it did out of the box.
But while I am very thankful to the developers for making this phone much better, I'm also thankful to Samsung and Sprint for giving the developers a lot to work with.
If a person around me pulls out an iphone 4s, it has a smaller, duller, more fragile screen, no keyboard, not as good sound since I have voodoo (that too). For me, my phone that came out a year earlier is just better. In fact, I pretty much have the best phone available with a keyboard. Other than its newer clone on Verizon.
I also think 4" may be the optimal screen size for a phone for me. I'm not excited about my next phone two or so years from now having a 4.5" or bigger screen.
On top of that, not everyone does, but I have my phone on Boost mobile (thanks developers here) and pay $45 a month for unlimited 3g, talk and messages. I'm in cell-phone nirvana by 2011 standards.
Sprint and Samsung got me 75% there and the developers at xda brought me the rest of the way home.
Not incorrect on many counts. I was stock until after Froyo except my 1 month test of DK28. Mainly, I'm in agreement that rooting allows you to tidy up the place and put in fresher decorations.
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Not incorrect on many counts. I was stock until after Froyo except my 1 month test of DK28. Mainly, I'm in agreement that rooting allows you to tidy up the place and put in fresher decorations.
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Being I came from WinMo to the Epic, it was nice to see that you didn't have to run a custom rom just to have the phone work.
shane6374 said:
Being I came from WinMo to the Epic, it was nice to see that you didn't have to run a custom rom just to have the phone work.
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Exactly !!! I came from TP2 Windows straight to epic and i loved stock, but with the great developers on here i love all the hacks and mods and roms they do!!!
I still don't have a compelling enough reason to switch from rooted stock EC05, although I've tweaked it plenty. I'm sure many roms are great but there's no killer look or feature that's lured me. The phone will be even better once stock GB hits.
I switched back to stock a few weeks back. A few observations:
Battery life is better than it was with any of the ROMs I was running, particularly the ROMs that weren't SRF 1.2. Signal strength is also better than it was with most of the ROMs.
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
I just recently made the switch back to stock as well.. Sometimes you just miss it.
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I switched back to stock a few weeks back. A few observations:
Battery life is better than it was with any of the ROMs I was running, particularly the ROMs that weren't SRF 1.2. Signal strength is also better than it was with most of the ROMs.
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
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Mine would do that without crashing sometimes on stock.
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On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
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i get this on stock and custom. i think it may be related to the sd card?
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Mine would do that without crashing sometimes on stock.
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i get this on stock and custom. i think it may be related to the sd card?
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I don't really recall this happening while rooted. Also, this is a problem that's started happening relatively recently. I was initially running stock for at least six months before ever rooting and I don't recall the Epic ever crashing. I got a bit tired of some of the other issues with ROMs and went back to stock again last month. Maybe I'll get the thing checked out at a Sprint store.
Yes, the Epic is a great phone stock, but a large percentage of your reasoning still great came from modified content.
What I took from your post was was: the stock Epic is a great phone, and the devs at XDA provide the few needed tweaks to fix anything that isn't already perfect with it. That's my opinion as well.
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I don't really recall this happening while rooted. Also, this is a problem that's started happening relatively recently. I was initially running stock for at least six months before ever rooting and I don't recall the Epic ever crashing. I got a bit tired of some of the other issues with ROMs and went back to stock again last month. Maybe I'll get the thing checked out at a Sprint store.
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make sure you take it to the one that "accidently" loads Gingerbread on it
I just bought a Sprint V20 and so far I have been looking through the roms and non are without bugs or problems. Which rom would you guys use and is it really that much better to root the phone over stock ?
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
I've had mine since Black Friday and still haven't rooted. I'm enjoying the phone despite the lack of data tethering. Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary? I'd enjoy the phone that much more if that were possible.
For me it's worth it just for adaway.
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Yushawan said:
Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary?
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There is no way. At least for Tmobile's variant. However, it only take a second to either zoom out or just click the icon and it will both take you to widescreen. I find zooming out easier for me. I dont know why
I personally only root to control programs that we should be able to control anyway (aka facebook), I get annoyed at how programs continually relaunch themselves without my knowledge.
That being said at this time I haven't rooted mainly because I've only had the phone for a month and I want to make sure that the phone works properly for at least 6 months.
Right now I am running greenify to attempt to control apps that think my personal phone is their playground to do whatever they want.
If I was younger and not dependent on my phone for a lot of things (business and organization) I would try other builds people have made but since I need reliability above all I personally tend to stick to stock builds.
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midmadn said:
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
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I may try this soon. I just hope DevDigitals Sprint roms are stable. I use Black Player as my music player for the gym and the camera is awesome for my Cruise I'm taking in April.
It still looks like people are having issues with DevDigitals rom. The data and texting issues. Are all these issues solved in V6.5 ? I use my phone for work and cant take the chance of it not answering a call or a text. Is the new V6.5 working as a daily driver for Sprint users ?
no issues at all on 6.5 for most.....
people sometimes don't read/search anymore
I did post once that I was having data issues but it was no fault of DevDigitl's great rom.
It was my wifi wasn't shutting off and I had previously signed into xfinity wifi. Every time I got anywhere near an xfinity wireless connection, (which is every other house in Boston) it would try to connect.
I'm still learning LG. Been on Samsung for a long time.
I firmly believe the rare connection issues are user error. Once the rom is installed you just need to click update profile and then update prl once.
It's worth rooting
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung.
my LG-V20 was also laggy and draining battery quickly. i finally rooted my phone and it is 100% better i am currently using Maximum OvrDriVE Rom. its extremely nice. so if anyone else has the lag/battery drain quicker i suggest rooting your phone should fix. its been about 2 weeks and still doing great also so.
If you want a stable amazing ROM the NotSoStock ROM is the only option....
Don't hesitate just do it. You won't regret it.
I would like to know if anyone else is having the problems I am having, and possible a solution.
Multiple times a day and seemingly random times, the phone heats up temendesly and starts lagging really badly, sometimes so bad I can't even unlock it.
I can't figure out if something is causing it because alot of the time it starts happening while its in my pocket, locked. Alot of the time when it does heat up it just stays hot, so I have to turn it off and leave it for 5-10 minutes to allow it to cool down. Once it has cooled down and I switch it back on, it seems to stay cool (Untill it has another episode and overheats again).
But then other times, I can be watching videos or playing games and it is very responsive and doesn't heat up more than it should, how ever this is rare.
I searched the forums but only found one related post. They had their phone replaced once, and so have I for other reasons. Could I have a defective unit?
Are there any apps I can use to monitor resource usage to maybe see if its a rougue app or system process?
I will also mention that I am using the Hyperion extended battery for the phone, but im not sure if it plays a roll in the issue, as the battery itself does not seem to get hot, only the CPU (I can feel it very hot where the figureprint scanner is)
I have not tested the phone with the stock battery, how ever I may try this.
Thanks,
Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down. Also kernel auditor (needs root) shows cpu/gpu/battery temps right on the "overall" section.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?
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Well I have had mine a few days. And compared to other phones I have had, it at times while locked does seem a bit warmer. However it hasnt concerned me much, or been truly "HOT" as in 90c and up.
Only time my phone got extremely hot was on first boot out the box for about 30 min. I would definitely suggest seeing how it behaves over a day with stock battery, if for nothing more than process of elimination.
Not sure if your rooted? And I'm not sure any kernel has it, but the IntellX governor sits at 300mhz while locked. Useful for keeping temps down.
Not sure what other apps you have, but possibly have some kind of runaway process(s)? have you tried safe mode for a day to see if it still happens?
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I might try stock battery tomorrow if I can find where I put it.
Not rooted currently.
Also not sure how to boot to safe mode?
Also just to clarify, it overheats all the time, not just when locked. I will try a temp monitoring app to see what its at when its overheating
Safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, press and hold Power off.
When prompted to restart in Safe Mode, tap OK.
After your device restarts, it displays Safe mode at the bottom of the screen.
Uninstall apps that are causing a problem.
Turn off safe mode
With the screen on, press and hold the Power key.
In the options menu that displays, tap Power off and restart.
The device will restart and Safe mode overlay will no longer show on the screen.
So I haven't tried stock battery or safe mode, but I did a reset on the phone. The phone has been running great. After about 2 weeks now its starting to slow again, heat up a lot more. I am really puzzled to why this is happening. I'm not sure if it is a app I have installed. Are there any apps that monitor usage on the phone? Or any other ideas why I keep experiencing these problems.
Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.
To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two [emoji111]️ cents.
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Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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Not true as dleclair in the post obove you stated you can stop all lag with this device. Since removing the files on my phone it has never lagged. Snappy as a fresh install
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I've tried all custom kernels for h918 and its all the same. Maybe it works for you but didn't work for me
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To be honest there's is no fix to this. Android kinda sucks and with Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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But if we are honest here, the phone should not be slowing down after a few weeks usage. It should stay running almost as good as a fresh phone/reset. My old GN3 slowed down after all my apps, sure, but not like this phone does.
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Same issue here, I fixed it by flashing a kernel that has rctd removed. Maybe systemless rooting can cause the root checking service to bug out and start spawning numerous loops until it is using up a large percentage of CPU.
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Maybe i'm confused by what you mean, but doesn't that mean that should only affect me if I am Rooted? Although I am thinking of rooting and trying different Kernels if it helps.
These are the types of issues I am getting. I know someone else through my job who has the same phone but does not have these issues. Is it faulty? Would a kernel fix it and are there any for my model ? (H990DS) I can't seem to find any for this phone. Send help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9rDd_UY6w
I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app
It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file
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I'm not sure how much useful information you can get from apps without root to monitor your device for troubles like this, but you should at least look into the monitoring capabilities in Android and have the device on for a good amount of time to catch when these performance issues hit. hopefully it is just a rogue app
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I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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It is very easy to fix Man
By simply replacing the thermal config file
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Singularity_iOS said:
I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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well it's going to take time to figure out something like this out. what I would do is root and then use something like SystemPanel 2 https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-systempanel2-boost-clean-t3552690 and see the live view of what's currently using up CPU. what's good about this app is that it gives you an overview of usage over 3, 8, 24 hours so you can see what was using the most CPU during a certain range of time. but it would be best to see if you can have this app running for a bit and check it right when the lag is occurring.
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I'm happy to root if i need to figure out what wrong. I'm not against root at all.
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Due to file extension error, i can't post the file here but here is the link Of the thread but you gonna need to root the device
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705[/url]
Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.
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Right. So I'm a little salty at the moment. I have had ES File Explorer on my phones for probably close to 2 years now. If anyone has used it lately you would know about the anoying notifications that it has. So last night I decided to uninstall it to see if possible ES explorer was causing the lag by indexing my files or something. And lo and behold 30 seconds after uninstalling the CPU cooled down and the phone was USABLE. Played around with it a bit, jumped from app to app, webpage, video, all running as they are supposed to, not super laggy and delayed. I am 99% sure it was ES File explorer giving me grief over the last 12 months owning this phone. I'm really hoping that was the only issue and I can now use my phone as intended. If that's all it was, then thanks for the help from those who are here.
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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With Development coming to a stop for this phone I'm afraid this is as fast as you're going to get it going. I suggest looking into making your own rom or getting a better optimized phone. This is of course my two cents.
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Stopped using it 2 years ago when it started being filled with ads and having features bolted onto it. Moved on to Solid Explorer with the FTP plugin, and never once had an issue
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Lack of support on a specific variant isn't cause to discredit a whole model. If you wanted support or specific functionality like root, a custom ROM or kernel for example, you research the variant with the most development activity and purchase that one. It's why I got the H990DS, that's still kicking.
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Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.
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Makes no sense since I have t mobile. I get my phones through them.
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Maybe on your next contract renewal look at going a SIM-only plan. Changes your world.
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the OnePlus 6. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?
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Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.
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I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.
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You should count yourself lucky, you haven't had the network problem like the rest of us because it is quite annoying.
I have no issue with the battery life, but then I don't clutter my phone with nonsensical apps either. I have no need to turn down the animations either, I have no complaints about it being "snappy and fast" but being snappy and fast has no bearing on the other issues within the software. You can make any phone snappy and fast, but the coding can still be a mess. And the phone does have a latency issue which is apparently even more noticeable in the 3rd beta as there were people complaining about it.
Touchwiz is just a joke and should not be used as a comparison to anything. To be honest I would rather go back to Asus and deal with their limited updates then this mess. No OS is without some problems somewhere, but at least Asus works correctly 90% of the time and is updated to 2018 instead of being an OS from 2012.
Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.
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Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.
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I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.
Seems like you just got unlucky
I have the 128gb 8gb variant and I think you mentioned you had the 64gb variant. I was just trying to help sorry I couldn't.
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What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Relax, it wasn't meant as bad as it may look Just kidding. Sorry to hear you have such problems, my device performs just excellent.
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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Although I root my devices day one and have no issues with my OP6 I totally agree with you.
I maintained buggy devices before. Customer supports standard answer is factory reset. Community answer is root and flash or install this or that. Out of the box many devices from different brands have lots of issues where I wonder how this could pass quality check. Loosing signal/ reconnecting issues for mobile and wifi, buggy silent mode, any pre installed (mostly the launcher) force closes, etc.
People keep asking me why I root my devices, what the benefit is. While some thinks are a real benefit (twrp, titanium backup, enhanced settings, ...) other mods are just there to overdraw the main rom bugs. And they become more.
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I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.
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Maybe because the problems you are mentioning are issues people that don't know what they are doing tend to have and the people that root and start installing stuff that can't read instructions properly. Honestly the problems you mention are rookie issues and or Fan Boys of other phones (Iphone anyone) and troll.
The OS is just fine. The OP5 and now the OP6 are the first android phones I've never had to install a custom ROM for. I root for TiBu and to install root apps. I also install a Kernel to increase vibration sensitivity and max volume levels. Buttery smooth, insane battery life and no complaints.
I'm running the OP6 64gb as well, and I've never had issues with the OS. It's pretty bare-bones (like it should be), since it opens the possibility to update to new OS updates extremely fast.
I've had high-end Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Xiaomi and Huawei, and so far OnePlus have been AMAZINGLY quick on updates and fixes for issues at hand.
The best I have seen so far really enjoy the dark mode option(both on my old oneplus 5)
The audio tuner is amazing with my headphones (classic with Sennheiser hd25)
feel a little smoother than my Oneplus 5 with Oxygen 9.03 but I its maybe a placebo
For improve I want more option for the file manager (smb 3 compatibility pls)
More widget out of the box weather and location especially
and change the design of the weather app
its look a little outdated
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What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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True
floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..
CYB3R0ID694 said:
Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..
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Hold yourself, stop being a twit
floridaman said:
Hold yourself, stop being a twit
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THEN WHAT ABOUT BUILD OWN OS & FIX THINGS BY OWN..
OR
HELP DEVELOPERS BY GIVING FEEDBACK & PROVIDING LOGCAT?
SOUNDS FUN?? ISN'T IT? :silly:
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Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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So I picked up a 6P again after I got rid of my original a couple years ago. It arrived yesterday and I got it all setup, but then it started having issues that night. So I did a factory reset. I should mention that the very first thing I did when I got it was root it and install elementalx. Didn't bother with a ROM since Pure Nexus hasn't been supported for awhile (which is what I installed on my old 6P) and I was already running Oreo.
Today was going great until about an hour ago. I unplugged it from charging and the same symptoms as last night happened. When this happens I have to hold the power button until the device reboots.
What happens is that severe lag happens. The screen turns on after a few seconds when I use the fingerprint scanner or power button, but it's very slow and glitchy. Like it'll show half the notification bar and below that there will be a 2 inch long by 1 inch long rectangle in the upper left corner that shows the bottom of my wallpaper. The rest of the screen will show my wallpaper but it'll be glitched, where like the bottom is actually a section of the top. And trying to pull down the notification shade is just impossible. It glitches big time but after lagging of course. I really wish I had pictures to better explain. If it happens again I'll be sure to take some.
From what I've said though, does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
I have a few days where I can still return the device, but I really would like to keep it since it's in mint condition. Battery life is great still and there doesn't seem to be any performance issues when it's working properly. I really don't want to keep doing resets, which if I'd have to then I don't see any point in keeping it since it basically won't be usable.
Edit: 9:37pm
Just had it happen again so I took some pictures. It got to the point the screen wouldn't come on at all, so I had to hold the power button again to reboot. But I found out it still registers the fingerprint to unlock (I hear the sound) and hitting the power button twice still launches the camera (the phone vibrates). When this first started happening this time, after waiting for a little bit with the screen on, I got the popup that the System UI wasn't responding.
Just wanted to update that I flashed the stock ota from Google's site for the October 2018 update. Since doing so the phone has been working fine *knocks on wood*. So right now I'm thinking there was an issue with rooting, elementalx, or magisk. I'll make a backup and do those things one at a time and see when/if my issues return.
Just another update for those who stumble across this topic from Google or whatever.
Things were working great for a few days so I decided to go ahead and root but not install elementalx or anything. Did so last night and upon waking up this morning the phone was having the lag issue again. So it seems rooting is causing my problem. I used magisk, so I'm going to try SuperSU and see if that causes my problem as well.
Switching from magisk to SuperSU did not solve my problem. The phone started freezing up and lagging bad again, requiring me to hold the power button and reboot. So I guess I'll just unroot again and leave it that way.
Unless someone seeing this has any other ideas.
I dont recommend oreo. Im having a lot of issues like the worst of all not being able to install TWRP, lag, screen stutters and excessive battery usage
I love Oreo. Have zero problems with it, my problems are this specific phone. Don't root it and it works flawlessly. Oreo runs better for me than any previous version of Android ever, especially on older lower spec devices. There is zero reason something as powerful as the 6P can't handle it.
TWRP installed without issue, never had an issue with it and Oreo shouldn't affect it anyways. I've got the phone running kind of stock. I installed TWRP and ElementalX and left it at that. Using other apps and adb commands I was able to install a bunch of "Pixel only" stuff and get what I wanted without root. So I'm happy.
The thing's just a side project next to my Note 9 anyways. So long as the hardware issues stay at bay that render the 6P worthless, I'll stay happy.
Sounds like to me you need to do a full re-flash from the stock files on Google's Nexus site and start fresh. Or yours is starting to show signs of the hardware defects.
Either way, this topic is moot to me now I guess. Mainly just left it here in case others find it through Google searches. Good luck!
Whenever I do a major android version upgrade I wipe internal storage. I found that if I didn't do this would get all kinds of little issues. Internal storage carries over files from one android version to the next.
My 6P is doing very similar as yours is. Extreme lagging, basically totally freezing and sometimes half the screen is visible just like on your pictures. I haven't find a solution to it, but you are saying not rooting it fixed it for you? Seems far-fetched but I guess I have no other option. I have been using Lineage OS.
Yeah, removing root instantly fixed the issues for me. I made sure to clear cache and everything like that from recovery too. I'm still unlocked and using TWRP with Elementalx, setup however I like. I just can't root. Soon as I do I can actually feel a little slowdown in using the phone, and then after a day or so the horrible lag with freezing and stuff starts.
Not sure about using a custom ROM since like I said I didn't try it on this phone. My original 6P didn't have any of these issues and I could root, ROM, and modify my heart out.
So to recap, currently and since my last actual update here basically, I've been unlocked, using elementalx and TWRP, but running stock October 2018 Oreo ROM and all that. I used adb commands to get Greenify setup as close to root settings as possible, and to install some Pixel stuff to get night light and whatnot. Got immersive mode by using systemuituner app. And a couple other things to get it as close to how my original 6P was on Pure Nexus.
Hope this helps. I'll be glad to provide anything else I can.
Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. Oreo runs smooth as butter on perfectly (or even in my case, not perfectly since it won't root) fine 6P's. Everything works as it should and I have zero issues and zero lag. All you're doing is cluttering up my topic on something that has absolutely nothing to do with Oreo. This topic is about the issues I'm having after rooting, nothing else. If you don't like Oreo, fine. If you think a device that's several years old at this point isn't running the newest OS as smooth as it ran older ones, that's fine too. Especially since Google has at this point completely disowned the Nexus nameplate. Just don't come into someone else's topic and run your mouth. I told you before I had no issues with Oreo and that it sounds like your device is showing odd behavior, if you didn't like that... well that's fine too. Why subscribe to this topic and keep coming back if it has nothing to do with you. Go away or contribute helpful info to the issue at hand here; rooting complications not Oreo.
Although at this point I'm not having any issues. My 6P has been running buttery smooth since I removed root on what, October 18th... that's about two weeks ago. And this includes installing and tweaking stuff on it that it's supposedly too obsolete to run and only Pixel devices can handle. It goes toe to toe with my Note 9 in daily activities, all while running Oreo.
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Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. Oreo runs smooth as butter on perfectly (or even in my case, not perfectly since it won't root) fine 6P's. Everything works as it should and I have zero issues and zero lag. All you're doing is cluttering up my topic on something that has absolutely nothing to do with Oreo. This topic is about the issues I'm having after rooting, nothing else. If you don't like Oreo, fine. If you think a device that's several years old at this point isn't running the newest OS as smooth as it ran older ones, that's fine too. Especially since Google has at this point completely disowned the Nexus nameplate. Just don't come into someone else's topic and run your mouth. I told you before I had no issues with Oreo and that it sounds like your device is showing odd behavior, if you didn't like that... well that's fine too. Why subscribe to this topic and keep coming back if it has nothing to do with you. Go away or contribute helpful info to the issue at hand here; rooting complications not Oreo.
Although at this point I'm not having any issues. My 6P has been running buttery smooth since I removed root on what, October 18th... that's about two weeks ago. And this includes installing and tweaking stuff on it that it's supposedly too obsolete to run and only Pixel devices can handle. It goes toe to toe with my Note 9 in daily activities, all while running Oreo.
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It wasnt for you but in general, there are more users complaining about it. I tested oreo without rooting and it lags as hell. You can even check comparison videos too... this topic is about having lag issues so I gave you an answer, go back to nougat.
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It wasnt for you but in general, there are more users complaining about it. I tested oreo without rooting and it lags as hell. You can even check comparison videos too... this topic is about having lag issues so I gave you an answer, go back to nougat.
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I told you the first time you mentioned that "solution" , Nougat isn't an option for me and shouldn't be because I'm pretty sure I made it clear Oreo wasn't the problem. I even made it clear I basically solved my issue before your first foray into this thread.
I made it clear again in my last post.
I really don't care if there are comparison videos, I have absolutely zero lag if I'm unrooted. That is what this topic is about, lag caused by root. Those who actually spend the time to read more than the topic title can understand that. I've been working with electronics for a long long time, I know how to diagnose everything and I think I made that pretty clear by providing updates as I did things. If not for the fact the thing is all setup and running great, I'd wager I could go back to Nougat and still have root lag issues. The 6P and the 5X for that matter, are ticking time bombs. They both have hardware defects that basically turn them into fancy paperweights. Those defects could be causing my issues, your issues, and edda's issues. No real way to tell that until the bootloops or early shutdowns start. I'm of course hoping this late in the game that maybe those of us with still functioning units don't have those issues, but my gut tells me it's always a "time will tell" issue.
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I told you the first time you mentioned that "solution" , Nougat isn't an option for me and shouldn't be because I'm pretty sure I made it clear Oreo wasn't the problem. I even made it clear I basically solved my issue before your first foray into this thread.
I made it clear again in my last post.
I really don't care if there are comparison videos, I have absolutely zero lag if I'm unrooted. That is what this topic is about, lag caused by root. Those who actually spend the time to read more than the topic title can understand that. I've been working with electronics for a long long time, I know how to diagnose everything and I think I made that pretty clear by providing updates as I did things. If not for the fact the thing is all setup and running great, I'd wager I could go back to Nougat and still have root lag issues. The 6P and the 5X for that matter, are ticking time bombs. They both have hardware defects that basically turn them into fancy paperweights. Those defects could be causing my issues, your issues, and edda's issues. No real way to tell that until the bootloops or early shutdowns start. I'm of course hoping this late in the game that maybe those of us with still functioning units don't have those issues, but my gut tells me it's always a "time will tell" issue.
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If that was a hardware issue Id be having it with other versions of android but no, only oreo. And everything points out that oreo is the issue. Not only me but all the users posting videos and on forums
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Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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I agree with you on that. I have had much better luck running Pure Nexus over any other rom.
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Yeah, removing root instantly fixed the issues for me. I made sure to clear cache and everything like that from recovery too. I'm still unlocked and using TWRP with Elementalx, setup however I like. I just can't root. Soon as I do I can actually feel a little slowdown in using the phone, and then after a day or so the horrible lag with freezing and stuff starts.
Not sure about using a custom ROM since like I said I didn't try it on this phone. My original 6P didn't have any of these issues and I could root, ROM, and modify my heart out.
So to recap, currently and since my last actual update here basically, I've been unlocked, using elementalx and TWRP, but running stock October 2018 Oreo ROM and all that. I used adb commands to get Greenify setup as close to root settings as possible, and to install some Pixel stuff to get night light and whatnot. Got immersive mode by using systemuituner app. And a couple other things to get it as close to how my original 6P was on Pure Nexus.
Hope this helps. I'll be glad to provide anything else I can.
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I had problems similar to this and found out it was the immersive mode causing it, activating it with any app caused problems. If you download terminal emulator and use some commands that can be found elsewhere in the Nexus 6p part of the forum it works fine. Hope this helps. Currently on Resurrection remix with magisk installed. Running smooth as butter. Just waiting for pie to be more stable now
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I had problems similar to this and found out it was the immersive mode causing it, activating it with any app caused problems. If you download terminal emulator and use some commands that can be found elsewhere in the Nexus 6p part of the forum it works fine. Hope this helps. Currently on Resurrection remix with magisk installed. Running smooth as butter. Just waiting for pie to be more stable now
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Thanks but I wasn't even messing with immersive mode at the time. Or are you saying just having it present because I made uituner visible in settings that it might have been causing it?
My issue very much seems to be straight up linked to rooting. If I used magisk or SuperSU (really the only two I'm willing to trust) I'd notice the phone felt sluggish soon as it would reboot after rooting with them. It wasn't a huge slowdown though so I thought nothing of it, until the horrible lag/freezing issues started usually within the day. Remove root, and everything went back to normal.
I've since been using immersive mode without any issue, but of course I gave up on root.
And yeah, I hear ya on Pie. Soon as it becomes stable enough I'll be testing it out. I had 8.1 running on my Note 4, just sold it about a month ago, and it was running great. Only minor issues that were still being worked on. Being a Nexus though I have high hopes this'll be a bit easier to port to.
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Im talking about pure oreo on the nexus 6p. Ive installed it many times thinking coukd be a bad installation but its just that oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. I went back to nougat and its working like a charm again.