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I just checked it today hehe.
Information (I'll update as I find out more information):
ROM type: It's not a wipe rom as I installed over KIES. It left all my data as it was.
Install time: pretty fast, like any other ROM.
Speed of the phone: This build is FAST. I haven't had one slow down yet! For example, in whatsapp I've always had it load up and for every contact I have a picture. In my last build, I could see the list come up, but then every contact picture would load (and it took less than a second, but I could see the process go from no picture --> loading one by one, very quickly). Now they're all loaded instantly. No waiting. Applications start VERY fast, but I guess there is still some slowdown. Unlocking my phone is even faster than before. I believe the distance you have to drag (or maybe speed in which to move) has been reduced in turn reducing time to unlock.
Lag: OK. There's still some lag here and there. Overall I feel like it's faster. Hopefully more ROMs in the future will fix this.
Touch screen sensitivity:I find the screen sensitivity just fine. Very sensitive to be honest.
Battery life:will update after more usage
Update about battery life:
[Day 1 Statistics]
I had Endomondo on for an hour with GPS tracking / 3G / bluetooth wireless headset for music (55 minutes to be exact). A couple of phone calls as well for a total of maybe 35 minutes of phone calls (all over 3G). Wifi was on most of the day, as you can see. I've never had "awake time" this high before without having the screen on. I found that strange. I'll do a battery pull now, and hit the sack!

zkyevolved said:
I just checked it today hehe.
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Any impressions after the installation?
Inviato dal mio GT-N7000

Skyman1 said:
Any impressions after the installation?
Inviato dal mio GT-N7000
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Well, I'll get back to you in a few hours. I'm still playing ^^

Can you check please if DBT and this La3 has Latvian (latviesu) language as keyboard input or even system language? Dont care about dictionary word prediction. Thinking about switching to DBT csc so i can install newer OS, Latvia latest update is KKA and KK5
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zkyevolved said:
I just checked it today hehe.
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Is it a wipe ROM?

venki5star said:
Is it a wipe ROM?
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I installed over KIES, so no. Everything on my phone was left the same.

valtersboze said:
Can you check please if DBT and this La3 has Latvian (latviesu) language as keyboard input or even system language? Dont care about dictionary word prediction. Thinking about switching to DBT csc so i can install newer OS, Latvia latest update is KKA and KK5
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I hope these help you decide
Input language is for the default samsung keyboard
Locale is the OS.

dbt = version built for debitel, that means it's provider specific to some extent

Wtb OTA 5.5 hours till shift is off and 1.5 till i am home i can't handle it omg this pressure get me a OTA now or i will kill someone
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Something wrong with the keyboard. I use the T9 keyboard in portrait mode and now when it auto selects the next word, it does not get deleted if I type a new one.
Before it would show the word but if I pressed anything other than SPACE, the word would be replaced with the new one I am typing. Now it stays and my new word gets tacked on the end!!
I just changed to the qwerty keyboard and it seems to be related to the predict next word option. I have now disabled this for the present time. Rats!
Dave...

which country is my phone from? CSC and PDA seems inconsistent to me and I am starting to suspect that is the problem behind the lack of OTA's for me or updates from KIES.
PDA:KK9 / PHONE:KK5 / CSC: KK2 (DAM)
Any ideas? and if something is wrong, which firmware do you suggest? am hoping to retain root if there's a way also

Can u test the browser? Is it smooth at all times??
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zkyevolved said:
I hope these help you decide
Input language is for the default samsung keyboard
Locale is the OS.
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Thank you! Will backup everything and change the CSC, otherwise i feel like an arctic bear
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michom said:
which country is my phone from? CSC and PDA seems inconsistent to me and I am starting to suspect that is the problem behind the lack of OTA's for me or updates from KIES.
PDA:KK9 / PHONE:KK5 / CSC: KK2 (DAM)
Any ideas? and if something is wrong, which firmware do you suggest? am hoping to retain root if there's a way also
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working and playing with your note could not be fun at the moment, or?
mate, please make an update to at least LA3 and your note will fly, the rom
you are on is about 2 months old and from the early launch phase of the note. there were BIG improvements regarding speed, responsibility and some apps!

TML1504 said:
working and playing with your note could not be fun at the moment, or?
mate, please make an update to at least LA3 and your note will fly, the rom
you are on is about 2 months old and from the early launch phase of the note. there were BIG improvements regarding speed, responsibility and some apps!
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Thought so... thank you for your feedback. I guess I will go ahead and flash open european LA3 and hopefully I will be getting updates in the future. I haven't read the procedure yet, but will I have All PDA/Phone/CSC versions the same once I am done?

TML1504 said:
dbt = version built for debitel, that means it's provider specific to some extent
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NO, DBT only means free phone from Germany.
All of those who for example bought it from Amazon.de have this phone. It is absolutely free of carriers and customizations!!!
It has been said before but people keeps getting confused and confusing others!
It is very popular since it was one of the first places where it was early available.

runaway64 said:
NO, DBT only means free phone from Germany.
All of those who for example bought it from Amazon.de have this phone. It is absolutely free of carriers and customizations!!!
It has been said before but people keeps getting confused and confusing others!
It is very popular since it was one of the first places where it was early available.
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thanks will try this update as a last shot. was about to return my phone to amazon.de in the morning. they dont have stock anymore so no chance of replacement and only can get refund as per amazon.de help line. their next stock is only expected after 1-2months apparently as told to me today. so stuffed unless this update sorts the issues with my phone. (crashing restarting, wallpapers changing to original on its own, some apps laggy, file browser very laggy, video player crashing almost all the time and unusable, screen freezing and restarting etc).
will try this update, hope it works as i like the phone otherwise and will buy a note from elsewhere but atleast 50-100£ more expensive now elsewhere including amazonuk now. dont bother ordering on amazon.de now as i was told today by them next stock not sure when and at least 1-2months away. anyone who bought from there cant get replacement now and only repair or refund. i had emailed for replacement but reply says refund. same confirmed on phone call. the first customer service ***** that i got on my international call hung up on me!!!! the second chap on my next call was helpful even though he couldnt do anything as no stock. was told after they get phone back and process it may take upto 4weeks for refund! same said on website. so no phone and no money either.

It feels faster to me as well. The touchscreen also seems more responsive. I play a lot of chess on my Note, and I can see a difference when I'm dragging pieces across the screen. Perfect for all those times I'm in time trouble.

runaway64 said:
NO, DBT only means free phone from Germany.
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exactly!
btw..
updating right now..

I updated my first post to include some more findings.

New Firmware Update

Microsoft are pushing out a new firmware update for both the 950 and 950 XL. The OS isn't touched in this update. Seems to be rolling out in waves. I can't see it yet.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...l/f3d9276c-b547-4fba-944c-afbdd9f6e9cc?auth=1
Stability and performance improvements.
Improvements for SD memory card support.
Improvements for automatic display brightness settings.
Fix for a camera problem that was causing noisy images in low-light conditions for some users.
Fix for a 4K video problem that was causing stripes to show up while playing back recorded videos for some users.

the_scotsman said:
Microsoft are pushing out a new firmware update for both the 950 and 950 XL. The OS isn't touched in this update. Seems to be rolling out in waves. I can't see it yet.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...l/f3d9276c-b547-4fba-944c-afbdd9f6e9cc?auth=1
Stability and performance improvements.
Improvements for SD memory card support.
Improvements for automatic display brightness settings.
Fix for a camera problem that was causing noisy images in low-light conditions for some users.
Fix for a 4K video problem that was causing stripes to show up while playing back recorded videos for some users.
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You can see in windows recovery tool

I still did not receive it on my unlocked UK 950XL

It looks like anyone who is an Insider is not receiving it for some reason.
You can get it using the Microsoft Recovery Tool, but you will need to backup data first, and it will also put you back on the .11 build so you'll need to update again after it too.

I just tried the recovery tool to see what it is like. I have to say, I am very impressed. Fully automated, much better than android.

Stephen said:
I just tried the recovery tool to see what it is like. I have to say, I am very impressed. Fully automated, much better than android.
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I haven't tried it yet. Might have a play on the weekend to get the new firmware.

Just picked up my 950 (non-xl) from the store, tried to setup Cortana, and it kept failing to download the speech pack, Googled around a bit, got pointed too the 'Windows Device Recovery Tool', installed it on my PC, plugged in phone, choose the phone in the software, and it instantly came with a message saying there's a update, accepted it, 5 minutes later its done, no effort what-so-ever (like others here, ive seen my fair share of issues with Android updates, so this is certainly a nice plus)
On the downside it does forget your contacts n such, but it warns you for that beforehand and tells you how to back it up, so all is fair

suicidal.banana said:
Just picked up my 950 (non-xl) from the store, tried to setup Cortana, and it kept failing to download the speech pack, Googled around a bit, got pointed too the 'Windows Device Recovery Tool', installed it on my PC, plugged in phone, choose the phone in the software, and it instantly came with a message saying there's a update, accepted it, 5 minutes later its done, no effort what-so-ever (like others here, ive seen my fair share of issues with Android updates, so this is certainly a nice plus)
On the downside it does forget your contacts n such, but it warns you for that beforehand and tells you how to back it up, so all is fair
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It depends how you have your contacts setup. I have them linked to my live account, so when I wipe the phone, it automaticly pulls them down again.

Ah, that makes sense, pmuch the same as what Google and Apple are doing then.
In the end i skipped over making a backup (since it was said that that would keep Cortana from not working) and just transfered my contacts and text's from my Android phone again. That worked great (somehow, Cortana does not, but thats for another thread i guess nvm Cortana works now aswell)

the_scotsman said:
It looks like anyone who is an Insider is not receiving it for some reason.
You can get it using the Microsoft Recovery Tool, but you will need to backup data first, and it will also put you back on the .11 build so you'll need to update again after it too.
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indeed I am on the insider program.
are the improvements through the firmware update worth going through the hassle with the recovery tool?
thank you very much and happy Xmas

altugk said:
indeed I am on the insider program.
are the improvements through the firmware update worth going through the hassle with the recovery tool?
thank you very much and happy Xmas
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I have much better user experience when I upgraded to newest firmware... OS is much, much faster, less buggy, programs are opening faster, CPU is not overheating as it used to and battery life is improved. For me it is huuuuuge step forward in the right direction, and thumbs up as I remember what piece of shi*t was Win 10 mobile on Lumia 950 XL when I bought it, and now two weeks later user experience is different like day and night. With this firmware they should launch new Lumias on the markets, reviews would be much more homogenous and would praise OS as it could easily compete with Andorid/iOS.
P.S. I came from .36 insider program and I used Windows Device Recovery Tool. Now I have .29 build with the newest firmware.
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samusan said:
I have much better user experience when I upgraded to newest firmware... OS is much, much faster, less buggy, programs are opening faster, CPU is not overheating as it used to and battery life is improved. For me it is huuuuuge step forward in the right direction, and thumbs up as I remember what piece of shi*t was Win 10 mobile on Lumia 950 XL when I bought it, and now two weeks later user experience is different like day and night. With this firmware they should launch new Lumias on the markets, reviews would be much more homogenous and would praise OS as it could easily compete with Andorid/iOS.
P.S. I came from .36 insider program and I used Windows Device Recovery Tool. Now I have .29 build with the newest firmware.
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Very good to hear about improved experience.
I was on .36.
Using the recovery tool I have rolled back to .29.
However it seems like I am still on the old firmware 01078.00017xxxx.
My phone is not picking up the update.
any idea why could that be happening?
950XL unlocked UK

altugk said:
Very good to hear about improved experience.
I was on .36.
Using the recovery tool I have rolled back to .29.
However it seems like I am still on the old firmware 01078.00017xxxx.
My phone is not picking up the update.
any idea why could that be happening?
950XL unlocked UK
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Strange, as immediately after Recovery tool found my phone, I got notification about the update. It was about 2,95 GB big. I think only difference between our phones is that I have language and location settings set for Slovenian/Slovenia. Maybe this played the difference. Maybe they gradually roll out the update, first in smaller countries (like Slovenia) to check the feedback, and then to bigger (UK, Germany, USA, etc..). Btw I updated the phone from Win 10 Pro laptop...
Hope it helps

If you don't see the firmware update in the recovery tool yet, then it has not been approved for you yet.
Since it's firmware I think your local carrier has to test it, and then approve it. If you are on ATT, good luck. They typically take their time with stuff like this. Also in the US most people are off work until Jan 4th.

Bjd223 said:
If you don't see the firmware update in the recovery tool yet, then it has not been approved for you yet.
Since it's firmware I think your local carrier has to test it, and then approve it. If you are on ATT, good luck. They typically take their time with stuff like this. Also in the US most people are off work until Jan 4th.
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I finally got it last night.
Overall it feels better.
I experienced a problem though.
I was watching youtube videos (using edge browser) after the update while the phone was charging through the wall charger. 950XL restarted 3 times. It was pretty hot so made me think it was related to overheating?
Did not seem to have any problems after that.

I was .36, after firmware update in the recovery tool the phone was downgraded to the .29 but with the new firmware. After that, like insider, new upgrade to the (again) .36 BUT with the new firmware.....
ouch....
But now, I have much better user experience, OS is much faster, less buggy, programs are opening faster, CPU is not overheating and battery life is seems improved.

dgardel said:
I was .36, after firmware update in the recovery tool the phone was downgraded to the .29 but with the new firmware. After that, like insider, new upgrade to the (again) .36 BUT with the new firmware.....
ouch....
But now, I have much better user experience, OS is much faster, less buggy, programs are opening faster, CPU is not overheating and battery life is seems improved.
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Lost this a little... once you were on .29 and had the new firmware, how did you get to .36?
EDIT: one needs to be on the Insider Preview... let's see if the firmware is preserved.
EDIT 2: Yes, the updated firmware is still intact after the Insider Preview update to .36
(The FM Radio app has disappeared though).

Simply checking for upgrade from the phone menu.
Again, I'm "an insider" (fast)..
start again the Insider app, choose "fast insider", reboot the phone and then check the upgrade

still nothing, recovery tool says firmware up to date also 01078.00017.15454.29005

Can we trick the update server with fiddler so it doesn't see that we're using an insider build and download the new firmware without the recovery tool?

LG V20 H990DS slowly and suspect

Hi Guys.
To start i would like apologize about my language.
I receive today my new LG V20 model H990DS with dual sim (phone i bought to UK in EBAY), i know is not official release to UK.
Phone was not unboxed, not used early, with protection tape, looks everything brand new.
First starting after phone booting i see freezing phone in menu (not was fast how LG G5), becouse my previous phone was LG G5 and i know should act quickly work, but LG G5 and V20 have the same processors, and same RAM, then i thinking is something wrong.
I install Antutu (latest version from Shop play) and maked test
Result very often under 100.000 (89000) point, 2 times was 110000
One time when i off phone to half hour, later power on and first what i run was antutu result in antutu was 131000.. (automaticly after this test i run 2nd test and was 105000) hmmmm behavior how Snapdragon 810 with overheating CPU and decrease power? i forget sygndrome name...
- Antutu 6.2.6 (latest version downloaded from Shop Play) show me all correct details about my Phone, i mean Model, procesor, ram, gpu, and rest.
- Android 7.0
Baseband version:
MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00011-
M8996FAAAANAZM-1.68646.1.69323.1
Kernel version:
3.18.31
Build number:
NRD90M
Software version:
V10a-TWN-XX
What is Strange.
1) I wrote 2 imei numbers to website with check imei and website show mi model V10 H960A
What do you think guys.
Bugs in Android? Bad quality phone or what?

Sorry but keep comparing performance over Antutu is completely no sense and crazy.
Yes, the V20 is slower than the G5 (I have both too), but it's probably because of the firmware. We are with the version 1 (V10a), and I am waiting and waiting for an update and nothing.
People that bought the phone in Hong Kong already have the V10B version. Probably much more smoother.

I have H990N on v10b seems no performance issue so far

Everyone with the v10B version has no complain. But nothing appear for the dual sim version... At least the model bought in Philippines.

Good Morning Guys
I would Like thank you very much for any answers.
Yes antutu every time show me diffrent result, what is crazy.
Today morning (caple minutes ago, when i wake up) when phone was charged to 100% and cold, antutu generated over 149.000 point (was great Result), automaticly i run 2nd test and was 133079, 3rd test test stop and long stay to 70% test, i close apps and run test again, result:133079, 4th test 127270 (test maked within 1 minute...hmmmmm too fast) 5th test 107790.
After this tests Phone is not hot, not warm, just little little bit warm (my opinion normaly using temperature)
Yes i have first firmware 10a, then maybe here is problem (lots bugs), i try update firmware but to this moment is Latest.
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Yes, the V20 is slower than the G5 (I have both too), but it's probably because of the firmware.
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" mrhizzo" you say V20 is slower what G5.... hmmmmm my G5 generated 136000 this one phone 149000, and lots test what i check to video at internet, v20 very often generated Over 145000.
But my G5 i several tests in a row and was always the same result, what i preffered less point but stable.
I just ask guys becouse i dont know what doing.. Return my examp to Seller, be send me another model, maybe this series is faulty, or maybe software bugs.
Everyone answers is very Helpfully.

I had my V20 since first day which was the 28th, out of the box it was 10a firmware, and a update was already waiting for you to download and installed, I didn't install the update right away, as many people on XDA usually wait for a lab rat to test this out first, but I could wait, there was so many problems, and the phone was quite unstable, so I updated, much better and stable and runs smoother.
My unit was the Hong Kong H990N dual sim version.
As for the post above me, I also have both the G5 and V20, G5 is much faster and stable, and I never rely on test benchmark for results, only personal usablilty.

People who keep doing benchmark to see "the speed of the phone" should get a life. Completely crazy.

mrhizzo said:
People who keep doing benchmark to see "the speed of the phone" should get a life. Completely crazy.
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Apologize if you think is to me Antutu and result points there is determinant of speed,
although little is.
My old Samsung Note Edge (Snapdragon 805 and 3gb ram) already freezed very often, 3 week ago i bought LG G5, i install the same apps what to Note and never G5 freeze me. Yesterday V20 withing 2-3 minutes first using i see something wrong, this is why i install antutu..
but what was if i like play in game.... stable around 140000 point and 90000 it is big comparison. and my opinion drastic drop down points (performance) is not normal.

pocinas said:
Apologize if you think is to me Antutu and result points there is determinant of speed,
although little is.
My old Samsung Note Edge (Snapdragon 805 and 3gb ram) already freezed very often, 3 week ago i bought LG G5, i install the same apps what to Note and never G5 freeze me. Yesterday V20 withing 2-3 minutes first using i see something wrong, this is why i install antutu..
but what was if i like play in game.... stable around 140000 point and 90000 it is big comparison. and my opinion drastic drop down points (performance) is not normal.
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Is the game battery saver on?

I have h990ds model with 10a version of firmware and I see the same results as you guys, antutu score is about 100000 max, moreover I see that cpu is barely hit 1,8 GHz, below screenshot was taken after antutu and 3dmax couple of tests... Maybe this will be fixed after upgrade to 10b? Nevertheless the overall phone performance is very good, I have no lags whatsoever
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Hi all, I have h990ds variant and I have same exact problems with the original poster -- I am still running on v10a but when I manually update it does not detect any updates, says im using latest version. Is there any way I could download and install v10b manually?
Thanks

pjl3dm said:
Hi all, I have h990ds variant and I have same exact problems with the original poster -- I am still running on v10a but when I manually update it does not detect any updates, says im using latest version. Is there any way I could download and install v10b manually?
Thanks
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have you tried with LG Bridge?

buongu said:
have you tried with LG Bridge?
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Yes -- apparently it recognizes my V20 but then it says "Cannot check the software version Try again" when I click on Software update.
Any ideas?

pjl3dm said:
Yes -- apparently it recognizes my V20 but then it says "Cannot check the software version Try again" when I click on Software update.
Any ideas?
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actually nothing... lg bridge doesn't find any update, if you manually check for any OTA update on your phone it won't find it either... i've scoured the web looking for a newer firmware for this model, but it would seem like we are stuck with v10a
so i guess we have to wait

buongu said:
actually nothing... lg bridge doesn't find any update, if you manually check for any OTA update on your phone it won't find it either... i've scoured the web looking for a newer firmware for this model, but it would seem like we are stuck with v10a
so i guess we have to wait
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Actually its strange cause in my local FB groups here H990ds owners posted that they were already getting FOTA updates for v10b...
Check my attachment - -I will get more info when I can.
The only problem I am really annoyed is that the phone slows done after some time and apps start to crash, video playback of any kind stops, video recording also fails. And it has happened liek 10 times now, the solution is I have to reboot it to fix it.

pjl3dm said:
Actually its strange cause in my local FB groups here H990ds owners posted that they were already getting FOTA updates for v10b...
Check my attachment - -I will get more info when I can.
The only problem I am really annoyed is that the phone slows done after some time and apps start to crash, video playback of any kind stops, video recording also fails. And it has happened liek 10 times now, the solution is I have to reboot it to fix it.
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oh that's interesting!
are you sure it was an H990DS that received that update? and not H990N?
they are both dual sim, and for the latter a firmware update actually came available a few days ago, exactly the 10b release... could this be the case?
any idea where the user who posted that picture is from? i could try my luck with a VPN connection in case you knew
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i read "quezon city", so it's philippines... let me check just to make sure in case it was a DS
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ok, so i tried with a VPN connection, server in Manila, still no update available under software update.
and same with LG Bridge, both on windows and osx. no luck!

The V10b is almost the same as V10A. The rom is still very very bad. They should bring the phone to the market in a much more stable way than the actual.

mrhizzo said:
The V10b is almost the same as V10A. The rom is still very very bad. They should bring the phone to the market in a much more stable way than the actual.
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so you have an h990DS model with 10b?

mrhizzo said:
The V10b is almost the same as V10A. The rom is still very very bad. They should bring the phone to the market in a much more stable way than the actual.
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I agree, should of made sure its stable before release or have mm, and allow pepole to upgrade to ng.
That being said the 10 b is slightly better than 10a in a way of stability.

kms108 said:
I agree, should of made sure its stable before release or have mm, and allow pepole to upgrade to ng.
That being said the 10 b is slightly better than 10a in a way of stability.
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so you have the 10b on an H990DS?
just making sure.

Recommendations for which OS to run on my A7

I have a A2017G and am currently running RR Nougat (unofficial one from @genesixxbf3). I use double sim (+SD card) and also use encryption and a dark theme through Substratum. I run nanodroid via magisk (also rooted via magisk) and no Gapps. I like to update every quarter or so in order to have the latest security patches. I am having issues with mobile data not working after going into flight mode (this is my main problem) or even at random and a few infrequent reboots. I have been waiting for Oreo but it seems that has become very uncertain.
Question: which OS should I run so that I can still have double sim, encryption and preferably a dark theme. I might consider using XPrivacyLua to keep google at bay instead of microG. I am tired of losing my data connection. What should I do? I can see some options:
a. go back to stock Nougat,
b. go to the beta stock Oreo 8.0
c. go to standard LineageOS 14.1
What would be the right move to make? Are there any others to consider?
Thx for any feedback.

LOS 15 is coming out very shortly apparently. Maybe just wait out for that since it should be here during the next couple of days (Although it could also not, depends on if they end up having problems with the release). I would regardless still wait for its release and then make a decision .

piet8stevens said:
I have a A2017G and am currently running RR Nougat (unofficial one from @genesixxbf3). I use double sim (+SD card) and also use encryption and a dark theme through Substratum. I run nanodroid via magisk (also rooted via magisk) and no Gapps. I like to update every quarter or so in order to have the latest security patches. I am having issues with mobile data not working after going into flight mode (this is my main problem) or even at random and a few infrequent reboots. I have been waiting for Oreo but it seems that has become very uncertain.
Question: which OS should I run so that I can still have double sim, encryption and preferably a dark theme. I might consider using XPrivacyLua to keep google at bay instead of microG. I am tired of losing my data connection. What should I do? I can see some options:
a. go back to stock Nougat,
b. go to the beta stock Oreo 8.0
c. go to standard LineageOS 14.1
What would be the right move to make? Are there any others to consider?
Thx for any feedback.
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How would you "go to the beta stock Oreo 8.0"? Has anyone leaked it?

0Kajuna0 said:
How would you "go to the beta stock Oreo 8.0"? Has anyone leaked it?
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I highly doubt it. I think he means the Oreo beta for the chinese A2017, that has been out for a while.

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How would you "go to the beta stock Oreo 8.0"? Has anyone leaked it?
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Victor13f said:
I highly doubt it. I think he means the Oreo beta for the chinese A2017, that has been out for a while.
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It's around though. Not leaked because nobody wants to have trouble with ZTE, but we're using it and some people are making a ROM out of it

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It's around though. Not leaked because nobody wants to have trouble with ZTE, but we're using it and some people are making a ROM out of it
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Interesting. Would like to know which rom... Maybe time will tell

Victor13f said:
Interesting. Would like to know which rom... Maybe time will tell
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B12 U beta. Supposedly it had battery problems so they made B14/15 (or 13, can't remember) but it actually works like a charm and there's no MiFavor anywhere to be seen.
The only problems I've seen are basically again ZTE engineers being themselves... The navbar and quick settings/notifications shade are completely Oreo AOSP, but they seem to be implemented in a weird way and Subs can't theme them.
As of battery I'm getting 4h SOT @ 2300 mAh batt, and Fairpark akt profile

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B12 U beta. Supposedly it had battery problems so they made B14/15 (or 13, can't remember) but it actually works like a charm and there's no MiFavor anywhere to be seen.
The only problems I've seen are basically again ZTE engineers being themselves... The navbar and quick settings/notifications shade are completely Oreo AOSP, but they seem to be implemented in a weird way and Subs can't theme them.
As of battery I'm getting 4h SOT @ 2300 mAh batt, and Fairpark akt profile
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Well, that only leaves me wanting it more, ahah. I'm a "purist". I hate Nougat B10, my battery life has gone to **** and my phone is only 6 months old. Couldn't care less about warranty since this is a 150$ phone on eBay now so I'm just waiting for something good to move to.

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B12 U beta. Supposedly it had battery problems so they made B14/15 (or 13, can't remember) but it actually works like a charm and there's no MiFavor anywhere to be seen.
The only problems I've seen are basically again ZTE engineers being themselves... The navbar and quick settings/notifications shade are completely Oreo AOSP, but they seem to be implemented in a weird way and Subs can't theme them.
As of battery I'm getting 4h SOT @ 2300 mAh batt, and Fairpark akt profile
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How about
- encryption
- dual sim
?
And - where to get it?

piet8stevens said:
How about
- encryption
- dual sim
?
And - where to get it?
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-yes
-yes
-not mine to leak

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As of battery I'm getting 4h SOT @ 2300 mAh batt, and Fairpark akt profile
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How did you check your battery capacity?

NadavCE said:
How did you check your battery capacity?
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Accubattery, about 5 measurements all with screen off

This whole lack of dual SIM on Oreo ROMs is a complete roadblock to even trying any of them. I won't bother with any Nougat ROMs either. Mine will stay stock Nougat unless we end up with either official Oreo or a properly functional and reliable custom based on it.

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-not mine to leak
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if you think that's how leaking works you haven't been paying attention
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-not mine to leak
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What i am wondering about tho since the last few days is why not anyone who has the latest beta version, creates a new anonymous account and leaks it that way.
I mean im still patient and wait for a final statement from zte, even though its unlikely that things will get better when reading the recent news.
But isn't it like super easy to get away with leaking it like that? Or do each update packages have unique ID's in them that would reveal who leaked it?

rzarectha said:
if you think that's how leaking works you haven't been paying attention
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You don't even know what I'm talking about lol. Someone sent it to other person, then he leaked it on a small group, then I got it. I asked about a week ago or two whether it'd be okay to leak it already (and I said that I would do it if nobody else wanted to) and they basically said no

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You don't even know what I'm talking about lol. Someone sent it to other person, then he leaked it on a small group, then I got it. I asked about a week ago or two whether it'd be okay to leak it already (and I said that I would do it if nobody else wanted to) and they basically said no
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I was only joking, an attempt at humor albeit bad in hindsight.

rzarectha said:
I was only joking, an attempt at humor albeit bad in hindsight.
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Nah it's okay, I got the joke anyways, but I think it belongs more to the guy that leaked it than to ZTE now. I don't know if beta ROMs have any identifier to know who leaked it.

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Nah it's okay, I got the joke anyways, but I think it belongs more to the guy that leaked it than to ZTE now. I don't know if beta ROMs have any identifier to know who leaked it.
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And ZTE has way bigger problems to deal with than chasing someone that leaks a firmware update. That makes customers happier thus releasing pressure from them.

Android 9 features report

I saw that a lot of people ask a lot of other people who had the time to flash the new android pie,
I decided to share my experience with it so far so you wont have to go searching in forums for stuff
*recent apps are still the same.
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
*I have to be honest I flashed a firmware that isnt for our single sim device and isnt even for my region but the animations in it are kind of weird, I cant say slow or fast but are weird in my opinion.
*camera UI is changed, I dont see anything special though, you can now have the google lens app which has new features that im sure most of you already know about (like reading and copying texts, identifying products etc...), video recording doesnt record HDR as some have stated, either that or I have not found out how to use it yet, but there is FULL HD 960 fps now.
*night mode does not work I dont know if its because of the firmware or that it simply doesnt work.
*phone does not feel as snappy as oreo I am being very honest, especially with power button, when I press it it takes about half a second for the phone to turn on screen.
*notification settings are new like what you saw on other devices, though I wanted round edges, but its still edgy corners like always.
*battery didnt show improvement (tho needs further testing) but it didnt also show worse so thats a good start.
*no SDR to HDR as people thought.
*sound levels didnt change, system touch sounds are still the same, ringtone and notification tone still the same
so far thats all I have encountered Ill let yall know when anything special pops in my eyes while i use the device.
*note:
I would really say to all you who have not received the update yet, there is no really something to be hyped about, just wait for your carrier to release the update.
if you have any further questions, feel free

night pictures improved? or same??

raven213 said:
night pictures improved? or same??
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I fell like it's better

raven213 said:
night pictures improved? or same??
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I havent noticed anything noticeable but i will do a detailed comparison tomorrow

madshark2009 said:
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
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Using the Google phone call app was my choice since Sony are not updating their dialer and we still have the oldest one, and I'm very happy that the recent apps are no longer black, thanks for the info, I agree we shouldn't get so hyped about it, since the most iconic features are not included like gestures, new nav bar, etc

SilverGamer_YT said:
I fell like it's better
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madshark2009 said:
I havent noticed anything noticeable but i will do a detailed comparison tomorrow
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madshark2009 said:
I saw that a lot of people ask a lot of other people who had the time to flash the new android pie,
I decided to share my experience with it so far so you wont have to go searching in forums for stuff
*recent apps are still the same.
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
*I have to be honest I flashed a firmware that isnt for our single sim device and isnt even for my region but the animations in it are kind of weird, I cant say slow or fast but are weird in my opinion.
*camera UI is changed, I dont see anything special though, you can now have the google lens app which has new features that im sure most of you already know about (like reading and copying texts, identifying products etc...), video recording doesnt record HDR as some have stated, either that or I have not found out how to use it yet, but there is FULL HD 960 fps now.
*night mode does not work I dont know if its because of the firmware or that it simply doesnt work.
*phone does not feel as snappy as oreo I am being very honest, especially with power button, when I press it it takes about half a second for the phone to turn on screen.
*notification settings are new like what you saw on other devices, though I wanted round edges, but its still edgy corners like always.
*battery didnt show improvement (tho needs further testing) but it didnt also show worse so thats a good start.
*no SDR to HDR as people thought.
*sound levels didnt change, system touch sounds are still the same, ringtone and notification tone still the same
so far thats all I have encountered Ill let yall know when anything special pops in my eyes while i use the device.
*note:
I would really say to all you who have not received the update yet, there is no really something to be hyped about, just wait for your carrier to release the update.
if you have any further questions, feel free
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how did you flashed? im on US and was wondering if i flashed VN hows signal and stuff also lte works? what about fingerprint scanner?? working???

raven213 said:
how did you flashed? im on US and was wondering if i flashed VN hows signal and stuff also lte works? what about fingerprint scanner?? working???
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Im from israel and i flashed everything in the folder, all works great, using newflasher

Zewarxx said:
Using the Google phone call app was my choice since Sony are not updating their dialer and we still have the oldest one, and I'm very happy that the recent apps are no longer black, thanks for the info, I agree we shouldn't get so hyped about it, since the most iconic features are not included like gestures, new nav bar, etc
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If you're upset about gestures not being included by default, you shouldn't be because this xda app on playstore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar) will get you a similar experience. There are alot of customization options as well. I've been using it for several months now.

hasaan6545 said:
If you're upset about gestures not being included by default, you shouldn't be because this xda app on playstore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar) will get you a similar experience. There are alot of customization options as well. I've been using it for several months now.
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Man I tried the mentioned above also I tried so many different ones and finally I come to a conclusion that this is the best one for me :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
So I'm totally fine for them not including the gestures but the new recent app windows are better than the current ones

raven213 said:
how did you flashed? im on US and was wondering if i flashed VN hows signal and stuff also lte works? what about fingerprint scanner?? working???
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Fingerprint works fine im in France and I can use any kind of mobile data so the signal works fine , camera works without any kind of DRM and all ok

madshark2009 said:
Im from israel and i flashed everything in the folder, all works great, using newflasher
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נו ברור, כי מחוץ לארה"ב כל הרשתות הסלולריות אותו דבר (וטוב שכך).
I'm from Australia and my phone was purchased in Israel. Flashed the Pie VN on my G8141 and all's working great. Including volte which is not available in Israel. I unlocked my bootloader and everything so I have magisk and I'm using the lawnstep module to get the new recents menu, only better because lawnchair has a bunch of extra features.
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hasaan6545 said:
If you're upset about gestures not being included by default, you shouldn't be because this xda app on playstore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar) will get you a similar experience. There are alot of customization options as well. I've been using it for several months now.
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Get magisk beta or canary, install the latest lawnchair beta, go on the magisk manager and install lawnstep (a module), reboot, and enjoy the actual pie recents menu. Improved. Not a replacement, but the real thing. And you can even keep it while using the regular navbar!

Doea camera contains bokeh effect? I mean, all phones have that, except sony's phones...

nevenx said:
Doea camera contains bokeh effect? I mean, all phones have that, except sony's phones...
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It does, but its a single lens camera, so it wont be as real as 2 lens camera phones.
You can download it via google play, and it works since ever, since marshmallow i guess or nougat its not something new

madshark2009 said:
It does, but its a single lens camera, so it wont be as real as 2 lens camera phones.
You can download it via google play, and it works since ever, since marshmallow i guess or nougat its not something new
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Sorry, I meant built in like in XZ2 premium

madshark2009 said:
I saw that a lot of people ask a lot of other people who had the time to flash the new android pie,
I decided to share my experience with it so far so you wont have to go searching in forums for stuff
*recent apps are still the same.
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
*I have to be honest I flashed a firmware that isnt for our single sim device and isnt even for my region but the animations in it are kind of weird, I cant say slow or fast but are weird in my opinion.
*camera UI is changed, I dont see anything special though, you can now have the google lens app which has new features that im sure most of you already know about (like reading and copying texts, identifying products etc...), video recording doesnt record HDR as some have stated, either that or I have not found out how to use it yet, but there is FULL HD 960 fps now.
*night mode does not work I dont know if its because of the firmware or that it simply doesnt work.
*phone does not feel as snappy as oreo I am being very honest, especially with power button, when I press it it takes about half a second for the phone to turn on screen.
*notification settings are new like what you saw on other devices, though I wanted round edges, but its still edgy corners like always.
*battery didnt show improvement (tho needs further testing) but it didnt also show worse so thats a good start.
*no SDR to HDR as people thought.
*sound levels didnt change, system touch sounds are still the same, ringtone and notification tone still the same
so far thats all I have encountered Ill let yall know when anything special pops in my eyes while i use the device.
*note:
I would really say to all you who have not received the update yet, there is no really something to be hyped about, just wait for your carrier to release the update.
if you have any further questions, feel free
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About the SDR to HDR conversion, the XZ2 and XZ3 don't have it as a setting called "SDR to HDR" but it's on the "Video image enhancement". Doesn't the XZ Premium have It? (Oreo already has it but does Pie convert it to HDR? )

Lazaros_K said:
About the SDR to HDR conversion, the XZ2 and XZ3 don't have it as a setting called "SDR to HDR" but it's on the "Video image enhancement". Doesn't the XZ Premium have It? (Oreo already has it but does Pie convert it to HDR? )
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It is there but i dont think it does sdr to hdr, it just adjusts the coloring and sharpness

Lirannl said:
נו ברור, כי מחוץ לארה"ב כל הרשתות הסלולריות אותו דבר (וטוב שכך).
I'm from Australia and my phone was purchased in Israel. Flashed the Pie VN on my G8141 and all's working great. Including volte which is not available in Israel. I unlocked my bootloader and everything so I have magisk and I'm using the lawnstep module to get the new recents menu, only better because lawnchair has a bunch of extra features.
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I have a question tho, I have a locked bootlader, and flashed this VN update, it has nothing to do with the bootloader right? I havent messed anything, you know how it is in Israel, the slightest change in a device can give the company a reason not to do you any favors and fix your device under warranty...
so I am all good right? nothing is wrong with flashing this update as its legit right?

Does Sony's Android 9.0 support the Camera2 API (HAL3) required by Google Camera?

What about the sound? Xzp have a horrible low (or poor) sound specially YouTube, Facebook videos, etc, music with Sony music app are fine.
Thanks.
Sent from my Sony Xperia XZ Premium using XDA Labs

steven7851 said:
Does Sony's Android 9.0 support the Camera2 API (HAL3) required by Google Camera?
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I am using XZ1 and updated to 9.0. It support Camera2 API full.
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