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Love his ROMs.
shoestring789 said:
Im sure this thread will get removed or closed and I will get punished like a child thats misbehaving, but I feel that in a community based forum that is designed for people to come together and share ideas and teach one another, that one of the BEST developers of some of the most, if not THE most, stable ROMS gets denied a status as RECOGNIZED DEVELOPER by the same community administators that Im sure USE or HAVE USED his ROMS is flat idiotic and ridiculous!! This thread is just to let people know whats going on with the "higher ups" of XDA. Hope a few people get to see this anyways before either its gone, Im gone, or both!!!
PS - THERE IS A PETITION IN THE GENERAL SECTION!! GO SIGN IT!!
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not sure what the issue is, did he ask to have the recognized developer status or just doesn't have it yet?
I've seen quite a few copy and pasters throw roms together from other people's work (direct porting with our boot image and build prop tweaks, swapping apns, libs and eri's etc., even I can do that and will never claim to be a developer), or just compile straight from cm source and they have the recognized developer status... I was under the impression that it wasn't that hard to get....?
That said, I haven't used his roms, but I hear good things and I'm not sure why he wouldn't be worthy of the developer status
He asked and was denied
moderators are few and especially in this section. I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed up for days.
I support Nils and all his work. He's a great guy and an excellent developer, I don't see how they could not recognize him with the rest of the developers when he has done so much in this community.
I have been as impressed with his work about as much as anyone else's. I would love to know the details behind that decision being made.
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Ya know.... I'm pretty tired of the *****ing & whining here on XDA lately. Who gives a ****? IT'S THE INTERNET, not a promotion at a job, new girlfriend or car.
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I started off wrong. My apologies.
I appreciate all the hard work and believe every developer is due their recognition but...
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Ya know.... I'm pretty tired of the *****ing & whining here on XDA lately. Who gives a ****? IT'S THE INTERNET, not a promotion at a job, new girlfriend or car.
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Life will go on.
Developing ain't for sissie's
Dmadrid98 said:
I started off wrong. My apologies.
I appreciate all the hard work and believe every developer is due their recognition but...
Life will go on.
Developing ain't for sissie's
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No problem. Thanks Bud.
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I agree 100%. This is crap.
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I 100% agree that this is crap.
If I'm not mistaken Nil's has been the only DEV supporting this phone since the beginning.I know personally that he answers questions and shares information. So hopefully the powers that be will reconsider.
no, lets give all the credit to AOSP developers and people who throw crap together from other roms and claim "it's a tottaly new rom! " this is f'ing stupid, XDA.
At this point it would be my guess that you have to make or be a part of a breakthrough of some sort in order to be recognized. A stable rom isn't exactly something that people can be recognized for because all the copy-and-pasters screwed that up for everyone. There's no telling what belongs to who in a ROM so why give people props for it when there's so much going on as far as people just taking stuff.
If I were looking to be recognized I'd do something innovative... Get WP7 on here, make a live wallpaper that has the camera active so its like were looking through our phone, etc etc. Most recognized developers develop for more than one phone so crank out something that the EVO and Desire can use as well as us... Things like that.
That's the only logic I can follow as far as why he was denied.
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At this point it would be my guess that you have to make or be a part of a breakthrough of some sort in order to be recognized. A stable rom isn't exactly something that people can be recognized for because all the copy-and-pasters screwed that up for everyone. There's no telling what belongs to who in a ROM so why give people props for it when there's so much going on as far as people just taking stuff.
If I were looking to be recognized I'd do something innovative... Get WP7 on here, make a live wallpaper that has the camera active so its like were looking through our phone, etc etc. Most recognized developers develop for more than one phone so crank out something that the EVO and Desire can use as well as us... Things like that.
That's the only logic I can follow as far as why he was denied.
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Being innovative has nothing to do with being a recognised dev. it's just being that, recognised for what you have done. it's about contributions and being helpful. not who's done the most awesome rom, mod or app. it's not a super dev contest... if that were the case, easily more than half of the recognised devs would not be recognized because they are drag and drop devs with no programing skills. just swap and remove files from one rom to another and call it their rom.
to be more exact to the terms of being a RD, here are the actual requirements...
-Be a developer that regularly posts your work/works on XDA
-Post helpful threads in the general section
-Regularly help answer questions in the Q&A Sections
-Not be found guilty of flaming
-And of course, feel out the Recognized Developer of XDA request form(When available which it currently is not at this time).
If you know Nils or have dealt with him in any way, you know he meets most if not all these requirements.
Well said Stoney!
This place has gone to hell ever since the closing of newtoroot threads a month or two back and with all the drama with certain devs. I'm glad I got my dinc 2 and don't have to see such travesties like this. Eff Ex Dee Ay.
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Being innovative has nothing to do with being a recognised dev. it's just being that, recognised for what you have done. it's about contributions and being helpful. not who's done the most awesome rom, mod or app. it's not a super dev contest... if that were the case, easily more than half of the recognised devs would not be recognized because they are drag and drop devs with no programing skills. just swap and remove files from one rom to another and call it their rom.
to be more exact to the terms of being a RD, here are the actual requirements...
-Be a developer that regularly posts your work/works on XDA
-Post helpful threads in the general section
-Regularly help answer questions in the Q&A Sections
-Not be found guilty of flaming
-And of course, feel out the Recognized Developer of XDA request form(When available which it currently is not at this time).
If you know Nils or have dealt with him in any way, you know he meets most if not all these requirements.
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How exactly does one feel out the form? lol. Sorry trolling, but I had to.
If you go by the definition you stated, then most rom builders would fit the bill. I have seen huge support by most devs on this forum. It sounds tho, that there is more to this than we know.
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Guys,
First of all this is not aimed at anyone in particular... it's for all to read.
It's obvious that something is going on in the Dev section concerning the Sense 6 roms ported from the M8..... I have no idea what it is and I have no wish to know.
However when these things kick off as they do from time to time it is not Developers or Contributors that are affected.... it's us, the users of the roms etc. XDA is supposed to be a community and is supposed to be about sharing so isn't it time that everybody shares their stuff... there are enough users out there for all of your work to be enjoyed and appreciated.
Please guys, let's all behave as a community and give all a chance to enjoy the many varied and good things that you Devs and Contributors give to us.
Thank you.
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Guys,
First of all this is not aimed at anyone in particular... it's for all to read.
It's obvious that something is going on in the Dev section concerning the Sense 6 roms ported from the M8..... I have no idea what it is and I have no wish to know.
However when these things kick off as they do from time to time it is not Developers or Contributors that are affected.... it's us, the users of the roms etc. XDA is supposed to be a community and is supposed to be about sharing so isn't it time that everybody shares their stuff... there are enough users out there for all of your work to be enjoyed and appreciated.
Please guys, let's all behave as a community and give all a chance to enjoy the many varied and good things that you Devs and Contributors give to us.
Thank you.
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This is what happens when people are more worried about their Ego then anything else. Nothing we can do about it. As developers are allowed to keep their own work to themselves and not share it with others. This is the reason many refuse to use OEM based roms or prefer to take the base rom and make their own for personal use.
Ill be honest. This is the main reason I dropped Sense and am on my last OEM-non-nexus device.
Nothing can really be done about it.
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Nothing can really be done about it.
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I fear you are right but I felt something needs to be said as this keeps happening.
rider5512 said:
Guys,
First of all this is not aimed at anyone in particular... it's for all to read.
It's obvious that something is going on in the Dev section concerning the Sense 6 roms ported from the M8..... I have no idea what it is and I have no wish to know.
However when these things kick off as they do from time to time it is not Developers or Contributors that are affected.... it's us, the users of the roms etc. XDA is supposed to be a community and is supposed to be about sharing so isn't it time that everybody shares their stuff... there are enough users out there for all of your work to be enjoyed and appreciated.
Please guys, let's all behave as a community and give all a chance to enjoy the many varied and good things that you Devs and Contributors give to us.
Thank you.
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Unfortunately Sense "Development" has left the "From us to you" level in many areas since quite some time and has reached a stage where all that counts is "I am out earlier with my rom", " I have more users", "My thread has more posts", "My p.... is longer". Ok, not the last, but you get the point.
So, as long as this does not change again, there is no such thing as a "Dev-community" in Sense development.
Sad as it may be, from time to time this kind of development has unavoidable consequences and the users are sometimes suffering from "collateral damage". That's the bitter truth and could only be changed by a change of attitude by some devs.
Just my 2cts.
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I fear you are right but I felt something needs to be said as this keeps happening.
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And it will as long as people keep needing an ego boost. That is all it is. They want to say they have the best, most mods, fastest, ect rom.
And to be honest. There is nothing done to OEM roms that are really that impressive. If they wanted to HTC could come in and stop all of them in one shot.
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........ and could only be changed by a change of attitude by some devs.
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That was the reason for the post in the hope that it may make some think a little more.
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That was the reason for the post in the hope that it may make some think a little more.
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I bet if we removed the option for donations all together. I bet things will change. hmmmm.......
zelendel said:
I bet if we removed the option for donations all together. I bet things will change. hmmmm.......
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hmmmm indeed !
zelendel said:
I bet if we removed the option for donations all together. I bet things will change. hmmmm.......
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Yes, that is the root of all evil (in this context) imho. I could not agree more.
Unfortunately this has become the state of affairs. In the end its down to the individual devs if they share their work. I do see some great things happening in the way of development, its just a shame resources cant be pulled together, then something truly fantastic may emerge, But until people stop putting their ego in front of development progress and community spirit, nothing will change.
Its all about, hey look what we did, aint it cool. Rather than, lets work together as a community and make a difference.
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...... its just a shame resources cant be pulled together, then something truly fantastic may emerge
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We can only hope but who knows... perhaps one day !
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I bet if we removed the option for donations all together. I bet things will change. hmmmm.......
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I honestly wish this would happen... XDA should not be about money, we all agree here that that attitude towards development is pretty much unwanted here.
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We can only hope but who knows... perhaps one day !
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I hate to say it but those days have come and gone. XDA used to be about sharing information and knowledge. Now it is a ego trip. Sad really.
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zelendel said:
I hate to say it but those days have come and gone. XDA used to be about sharing information and knowledge. Now it is a ego trip. Sad really.
Bat cave One
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Ow well, i hope you realize there ARE still devs out there that share the love buddy.
Its just few bad apples, (whats in the name huh) that spoils the whole barrel.....
I gotta chime in here with my .98 cents worth.
It's not just some stuff at xda. We're talking about innovation in all of tech being affected by a particular spirit.
Think about it. Apple has 147 billion dollars in unused capital but they won't make it happen as far as getting swipe gestures on their ios keyboard.
Android has so many attitude problems as well. You can get one device and it has certain strengths and certain flaws. Then a different device will have the things that are currently missing in your device, but it will be lacking the good things your current device already has.
Things like planned obsolescence, data caps, expensive smartphones with faulty displays, over heated batteries, on and on and on.
Whether it be Apple, msoft, or Google...none realize that they're about to kill the golden goose.
Some of us will just throw up our hands and say " to hell with you all" , and just hang on to whatever device we currently have for much longer than we'd like to. Because, just as soon as you upgrade, there's a slightly newer and better spec-bump version.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Whiskey103 said:
Ow well, i hope you realize there ARE still devs out there that share the love buddy.
Its just few bad apples, (whats in the name huh) that spoils the whole barrel.....
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I do whiskey. I do. That's why I still only use aosp based stuff but even some there like to keep knowledge in house.
Bat cave
I love that you started this thread OP Maybe some folks will realize their ways and change.
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Whiskey103 said:
Ow well, i hope you realize there ARE still devs out there that share the love buddy.
Its just few bad apples, (whats in the name huh) that spoils the whole barrel.....
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zelendel said:
I do whiskey. I do. That's why I still only use aosp based stuff but even some there like to keep knowledge in house.
Bat cave
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And it's not new, nor confined to Sense. I remember when I made skins for MobileShell on Windows Mobile there were guys who refused to share basic knowledge just to have a headstart. It was simple xml, no high-end coding, so nothing that would earn you fame and fortune. And that was in 2008 or so...
It's just an ego thing and it will always be here. So the limits have to be set from time to time obviously to keep things stright and under control.
In my opinion there is an issue with "credit" and "permission"...example, if a developer ports a ROM over from another device, well done. But does that mean the developer owns that port, to me, no, because it's still HTC files used to get that port working. Should it be required to ask for permission to use that port? NO. However, it should be required to CREDIT the person who got the port working. But asking permission makes it seem as if you own something, which you don't. This is the problem I see. Permission should not be required on XDA at all, only a requirement to credit someone. If they are expecting permission, they should take their stuff off XDA, and go elsewhere, because I know for a fact that none of the developers asked HTC if they could use M8 files to create an M7 port, and I'm sure HTC doesn't care, but for some reason these developers care way too much.
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troby86 said:
In my opinion there is an issue with "credit" and "permission"...example, if a developer ports a ROM over from another device, well done. But does that mean the developer owns that port, to me, no, because it's still HTC files used to get that port working. Should it be required to ask for permission to use that port? NO. However, it should be required to CREDIT the person who got the port working. But asking permission makes it seem as if you own something, which you don't. This is the problem I see. Permission should not be required on XDA at all, only a requirement to credit someone. If they are expecting permission, they should take their stuff off XDA, and go elsewhere, because I know for a fact that none of the developers asked HTC if they could use M8 files to create an M7 port, and I'm sure HTC doesn't care, but for some reason these developers care way too much.
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I cant really agree with this. First off, asking permission is polite, its the reaction to that request that is the issue. If the request is reasonable and for the benefit of the community, i would like to think any devoted member/dev would be willing to share the knowledge. Chances are, that dev picked up a lot of knowledge from this very forum beforehand, so not to share prevents this circle of knowledge. Credit, is just a given.
I also have to say your simplified way of "porting" is a bit disagreeable. Some of these guys put many hours of work into their ROMs, so to say all that should be dismissed due to the original code being that of HTC, is a little unfair. It sounds contradictory, so...
We have 2 issues:
1 - Free sharing of work
2 - The protection of devs who have put hours of work into a project and wish to keep it "exclusive"
Both have to be considered, imho
Its a matter of balance, one with the rules (that i think we have) and the other with attitude.
As Zel said, HTC could pull the plug at any time. Making this a non issue.
Hi guys, i'm an italian guy and forma this reason i don't undestend Hood the reasons why alla post of lollipop ROM will be closed. I understand that the problemi is the resources ot cyanogenmod. Thanks for all
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Long story short: users steal early code releases from various sources and mash them together. Ultimately releasing half baked roms with their own name on it. A bunch of devices have been bricked, so the threads will be closed to avoid further damage.
Original devs are unhappy with the situation and do not like it therefore they complain and wanted the threads closed.
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Trixanity said:
Long story short: users steal early code releases from various sources and mash them together. Ultimately releasing half baked roms with their own name on it. A bunch of devices have been bricked, so the threads will be closed to avoid further damage.
Original devs are unhappy with the situation and do not like it therefore they complain and wanted the threads closed.
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Thanks a lot bro , and if the person who stole the code fix all bugs and release a stable rom, the thread will bel closed euqal?
Edoardo001 said:
Thanks a lot bro , and if the person who stole the code fix all bugs and release a stable rom, the thread will bel closed euqal?
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if they fix all bugs they should fix it in the source and send it to gerrit by CM for reviewing and then pushing in to the source for all to build on.
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Thanks a lot bro , and if the person who stole the code fix all bugs and release a stable rom, the thread will bel closed euqal?
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Doubtful they would be able to fix it, or they wouldn't have kanged it to begin with, they would have built it using their own source.
Although i understand the mind set, and have no problem with the threads being closed, i do not agree with the choice of the word steal. Google released the source for anyone to build with, if someone doesnt want their code used github has private repos. Which in my mind defeats the point of open source. But isnt it about time we go back to personal responsibility? If you dont know the devs rep, and or you cant recover from a bad flash, then maybe, just maybe you shouldnt be rooted or playing fast and loose with your devices operating system.
Just sayin, resume doing as you plz.
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Although i understand the mind set, and have no problem with the threads being closed, i do not agree with the choice of the word steal. Google released the source for anyone to build with, if someone doesnt want their code used github has private repos. Which in my mind defeats the point of open source. But isnt it about time we go back to personal responsibility? If you dont know the devs rep, and or you cant recover from a bad flash, then maybe, just maybe you shouldnt be rooted or playing fast and loose with your devices operating system.
Just sayin, resume doing as you plz.
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Absolutely agree with you. Open source is after all.. Open source. If you share your work, you must know that people are going to use it. It can be looked as your work is definitely something if others want to use it!
And yeah, if you have rooted your device and install roms, be ready for the risks it comes with. One cant blame a dev if they use devs stuff on their own risk.
I'll just leave this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2944269
So its clear to anyone who's read of my root attempt or simply heard through word of mouth or whatever the case is. I'm not the most liked user here I get that no this isn't a thread to get hate or admins /mods etc mad closing the thread this is simply an apology to anyone who feels as though I was a troll a lier etc..this is simply this is partly my experience from it what I've seen from the community afterwards and what exactly went wrong with root attempt.. Now first n for most there's been a lot of hate and bs about me saying I did this or that no straight up whatever it is or who said it its false I own up to what I say and or mistakes. Now I get it y'all got a laugh or got disappointed or are simply mad about the way i type stuff out that's fine. Look I've done a lot of learning rooting ROMs etc now what I did wrong was I tried forcing it like I did my Linux box a couple years back..friend of mine he locked me out of it anyway I didn't know that with android it was a completely different thing to get root. I apologize for misleading anyone my goal was to help people but I failed I'll admit it the project went FUBAR an I completely tossed it out. Past couple months or how ever long its been since BL unlock came I've been looking into rooting devices and custom ROMs and kernels sadly i have literally to much hate around me because of a failure..my own fault I let my head get the best of me although I let everyone down here I just wanna say I'm sorry to everyone. I do not wish to be a hated member of this community Android and Linux have been something I've loved for years I'd like to bring ROMs kernels etc to the table.. But who's going to actually use it if people see how hated I am here or a failure etc. So again I apologize and I've learned from my mistakes now I ask of you the XDA community to accept my apology and move forward I'd like to become a real member here like computerfreak, baybutcher and skrilax_CZ etc just to name a few members. Not really shout outs or anything just saying I see the work the positive response from you all and I'd rather be known for good reasons as for hate comments yes I know I'm in for those it's fine. :/ but I'd like to move forward as a real contributor here and unless people can drop the hate I'm unsure if that'll happen but I hope it does to the members of XDA that I let down I'm sorry truly I am. (Also if you really want to hear what happened with root ask and I'll explain the whole story I didn't wanna type it out if no one cares...that is if anyone reads this anyway)
Everyone got too excited and you over promised. Now it's just a joke people refer to but that's due to time and the fact that the bootloader actually did get unlocked shortly after that incident. I don't hold anything against you, but I'd expect occasional jokes from the community. Actually release something (anything) and everyone will forget.
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Everyone got too excited and you over promised. Now it's just a joke people refer to but that's due to time and the fact that the bootloader actually did get unlocked shortly after that incident. I don't hold anything against you, but I'd expect occasional jokes from the community. Actually release something (anything) and everyone will forget.
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I hope you are right I've had a lot of hate and that thing with jcase and the TZ exploit that never happened on my end saying I tried getting info on it (mind you I don't steal others work nor would it have helped me due to the fact that goes for bootloaders) and well I'm not willing to screw with bootloaders at all I just want everyone to see I was over my head and was just trying to help is all
i'm tired of people that keep bringing it up, its just a reflection on their character, not yours. as far as i'm concerned its been over since before it was over.
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i'm tired of people that keep bringing it up, its just a reflection on their character, not yours. as far as i'm concerned its been over since before it was over.
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Thanks man just trying to get all this damn mess dealt with I figured straight up apology would calm the waters I can completely understand why people where upset hell I beat myself up over the failure for awhile now actually considered saying F it and just leaving XDA that's how much bs happened for awhile
Honestly, I never understood why people create a thread saying "I'm going to work on XXX" instead of just posting the work itself. I've been a member of XDA since 2009 and I've NEVER seen someone post "I'm working on this" and actually come up with something...this includes root attempts, bootloader exploits, ROM ports, etc.
Usually, the people who come out with these kind of things work on it without having to share it with the world.
Nothing productive comes out from one of those threads so I wasn't sure why the thread was even created.
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The problem is you spoke well beyond your abilities.
Learn something simpler first.
Edit stock for a bare bones pre rooted version, then make it flashable.
Compile some already built ROMs just for an idea how it works.
Then attempt building some ROMs that are based off of cm. You may be able to bring us blisspop or carbonrom with some minor help.
After you get a good grasp, perhaps you could then actually maintain a ROM.
I personally would love to see the nexus experience ROM for our device.
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The problem is you spoke well beyond your abilities.
Learn something simpler first.
Edit stock for a bare bones pre rooted version, then make it flashable.
Compile some already built ROMs just for an idea how it works.
Then attempt building some ROMs that are based off of cm. You may be able to bring us blisspop or carbonrom with some minor help.
After you get a good grasp, perhaps you could then actually maintain a ROM.
I personally would love to see the nexus experience ROM for our device.
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I'm working on porting cm 13 to my Asus transformer tf101 so I can actually contribute to the droid turbo so step in the right direction I guess
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I personally would love to see the nexus experience ROM for our device.
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And the Nexus Experience already has a head start over in the OTHER Quark forum. It was just not updated for the XT1254. So current XT1250/XT1254 -compatible Quark kernel doesn't work with it. But it's already BUILT and ran find on XT1225 until November 2015.
So, that would seem to be very achievable?
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Don't let them get to you. I don't really see how you could have hurt anyone anyhow. Even if you were feeling a little overconfident, at least you tried. I still thank you for giving it an attempt and trying to help others in the spirit of the XDA forums. I was trying at the same time and it was definitely over our heads, but that's how we learn, right? I couldn't have put together a build of CyanogenMod a year ago, but I kept at it. Just don't give up. There will always be someone who pokes fun (appropriate or not).
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Don't let them get to you. I don't really see how you could have hurt anyone anyhow. Even if you were feeling a little overconfident, at least you tried. I still thank you for giving it an attempt and trying to help others in the spirit of the XDA forums. I was trying at the same time and it was definitely over our heads, but that's how we learn, right? I couldn't have put together a build of CyanogenMod a year ago, but I kept at it. Just don't give up. There will always be someone who pokes fun (appropriate or not).
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True true I'm just happy we got bootloader unlock
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I'm working on porting cm 13 to my Asus transformer tf101 so I can actually contribute to the droid turbo so step in the right direction I guess
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How would that help the droid turbo community?
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How would that help the droid turbo community?
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Learning to port and build ROMs will strengthen my knowledge of Android then I can use that towards the turbo
Thread closed - point made.
Considering that our project that shall not be mentioned was successful, I was wondering about what can be expected in terms of custom roms for this device. I don't know if ASUS released decent sources for the Ze533KL, so can we expect an eventual daily driver release or shall we expect more experimental builds? Of course I'm not asking for ETA, just wondering about what can actually be achieved for this phone.
The thing I really wanted to have with this phone is some kind of burn-in protection (which is implemented in LOS as far as I know). My phone is still under warranty, and I can already see marks of the keyboard and other icons when displaying a white image.
Since the actual thread was closed, maybe this one could be used as a bulletin board for any new unfoldings.
Cheers.
sure thing, I also thought about creating new thread where we can inform each other about our initiative. I believe that McFy is waiting for his unit to arrive. Then there will be LOS hopefully. I'm rooting for him
As far as Lineage OS features I think it is OK to ask a question here and wait for some research and answer about it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed
"Now what?" is a fantastic name for the thread.
Exactly my feeling.
Ironicaly, XDA killed the iniatitive on the day it reached its goal. So, there was no reason at all to do what was done.
About a custom ROM for the device, I have no preferences. Whatever suits the developer is good for me as long as the final product is stable and runs well.
hello everyone,
I bought the device and got it today, I downloaded stock rom, kernel sources and flashed twrp on it, I did a first build for this device but it didn't boot. Don't ask any ETA as I will not be able to tell the amount of work until I get something working. I will share with you the progress but can't give any date.
Regards and thanks for the support
bro pls give an unofficial process to unlock this device because official unlock tool not working it shows "unknown network error".
@McFy any news?
please share a working process of unlock bootloader without asus unlock tool apk....i m waiting for 3 years
McFy said:
hello everyone,
I bought the device and got it today, I downloaded stock rom, kernel sources and flashed twrp on it, I did a first build for this device but it didn't boot. Don't ask any ETA as I will not be able to tell the amount of work until I get something working. I will share with you the progress but can't give any date.
Regards and thanks for the support
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Not asking for an ETA but noticed this is your last post on XDA - everything ok?
NANDO1413 said:
ajuda dos brasileiros
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Nando, I don't have a Telegram account, but if someone starts building and need testers I would gladly volunteer. Just let me know here either on this topic or via pm.
NANDO1413 said:
ajuda dos brasileiros
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I'll be honest - I don't know what any of that says and for the next ten days I'm stuck on mobile (vacation!!) so if you could translate that would be great.
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I'll be honest - I don't know what any of that says and for the next ten days I'm stuck on mobile (vacation!!) so if you could translate that would be great.
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Basically, a dev named Erik will try to contact Mcfly so that they both could work on porting the official Zenfone 3 Lineage to Zenfone 3 Zoom.
predatorian said:
Basically, a dev named Erik will try to contact Mcfly so that they both could work on porting the official Zenfone 3 Lineage to Zenfone 3 Zoom.
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Thank you for that.
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Oh well, don't wanna jump the gun here, but it seems like the dude took the money and spent on something else, or he's been really busy since then, as he no longer even commented on any xda posts.
In any case, It's a shame. Now we know why XDA doesn't allow group funding for this kind of thing. Not asking for eta is something, but you can't volunteer to develop for a device, take the money and disappear and expect people not to distrust you.
My advice for all others that contributed would be to next time buy a phone with a greater dev community, and never donate if there's no ongoing project.
Really hope I'm wrong here, please @McFy, show up and prove me wrong.
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Oh well, don't wanna jump the gun here, but it seems like the dude took the money and spent on something else, or he's been really busy since then, as he no longer even commented on any xda posts.
In any case, It's a shame. Now we know why XDA doesn't allow group funding for this kind of thing. Not asking for eta is something, but you can't volunteer to develop for a device, take the money and disappear and expect people not to distrust you.
My advice for all others that contributed would be to next time buy a phone with a greater dev community, and never donate if there's no ongoing project.
Really hope I'm wrong here, please @McFy, show up and prove me wrong.
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I don't think you're jumping the gun - it's almost three months since @McFy last posted to us that he obtained the phone and even his github project named "android_device_asus_zenfone3_zoom" (which I presume this was for) doesn't appear to have any work done on/to it whatsoever - I don't think it's unreasonable to have gotten some kind of status update within that time, even if it's negative.
Without knowing what happened for certain I will unfortunately have to think the obvious.
Hey guys sorry for not updating you, I don’t want to tell my private life but my gf have health problems and it made me busy driving her/ spend time with her, I definitely didn’t forget you and am in touch with the project, I achieved to boot but lot of stuffs are broken; zenfone 3 have now new trees since it is now official and I am working on it; I went in touch with the dev. Fyi I did buy the device for real as I said, I am someone you can trust and in the case the situation of my gf isn’t getting better I will give that phone to another developer at my fees; I also want to mention It’s not on my habit to share wip builds or push trees change until it’s not on a state I judge nice enough.
Best regards and I hope you will understand. I totally apologize but I went inactive in all dev scene I am on and it’s hard for me as well to come back like this..
If you have any questions I can answer them if they are not personals.
I sincerely hope that you guys won’t get mad at me.
McFy said:
Hey guys sorry for not updating you, I don’t want to tell my private life but my gf have health problems and it made me busy driving her/ spend time with her, I definitely didn’t forget you and am in touch with the project, I achieved to boot but lot of stuffs are broken; zenfone 3 have now new trees since it is now official and I am working on it; I went in touch with the dev. Fyi I did buy the device for real as I said, I am someone you can trust and in the case the situation of my gf isn’t getting better I will give that phone to another developer at my fees; I also want to mention It’s not on my habit to share wip builds or push trees change until it’s not on a state I judge nice enough.
Best regards and I hope you will understand. I totally apologize but I went inactive in all dev scene I am on and it’s hard for me as well to come back like this..
If you have any questions I can answer them if they are not personals.
I sincerely hope that you guys won’t get mad at me.
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First off, I am sorry to hear of your gf's health problems - and I truly mean that. I hope that she recovers and you don't need to tell us any more information because that is personal.
Next - the heads-up is absolutely appreciated. Thank you! I do hope you can also see from our point of view how it was looking to us and understand that we were getting puzzled. Now we know why.
Thank you again.
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First off, I am sorry to hear of your gf's health problems - and I truly mean that. I hope that she recovers and you don't need to tell us any more information because that is personal.
Next - the heads-up is absolutely appreciated. Thank you! I do hope you can also see from our point of view how it was looking to us and understand that we were getting puzzled. Now we know why.
Thank you again.
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That’s me who owe you that and more.
Yes I ofc can see from your point of view and that’s why I went back on the forums, I got emails and more so I realized I got the phone since enough time for you to think I might have forgotten you,
Thanks for your message it’s really appreciated!
So, another month's passed. Any news?
anyone in contact with the developer?
so sad. that money was important to me. now the z3z is kinda past on my life. won't judge others, but by the delay, i guess i can judge myself injuried.