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Doing a system-less root on s4 using magisk possible?

alright im thinking of doing system-less root with xposed using magisk (yes im a pokemon goer thats ticked off from its new update) just wanting to know what would be the best way to go about this. If it is possible. currently im running GoldenEYE rom android 5.0.1 dont have fastboot so i already know i have alot of work in Odin to do. would love to have CM12.1 running with a systemless root but last time i tried to even get CM12.1 loaded it never worked.
So anyidea if this is possible or not. (yes i do have stock roms at the ready from when i put on my current rom along with root methods)

You don't have to do anything in Odin.
All you need is TWRP.
Then follow the Magisk instructions.
Unroot, uninstall Xposed (if present), flash Magisk zip, flash phh root zip, download phh superuser app and Magisk manager app.

well that sucked. now have the dreaded unauthorized soft ware. found a way around it to get phone booted. going into download mode then cancel out restarting phone from there.

So I tried this exact thing two days ago because I have an S4 with the Goldeneye rom installed, and unfortunately got these results
I opened up superSU and did a full unroot, after
I deleted the xposed that was installed (v86 by dlc) using the uninstaller through TWRP.
Next I flashed magisk v6 zip along with the phh superuser zip, and ended up in a bootloop..
The phone wouldnt pass the boot animation, so i uninstalled magisk, and reflashed superSU
On my end its not working, mate.

Mrcastle25 said:
So I tried this exact thing two days ago because I have an S4 with the Goldeneye rom installed, and unfortunately got these results
I opened up superSU and did a full unroot, after
I deleted the xposed that was installed (v86 by dlc) using the uninstaller through TWRP.
Next I flashed magisk v6 zip along with the phh superuser zip, and ended up in a bootloop..
The phone wouldnt pass the boot animation, so i uninstalled magisk, and reflashed superSU
On my end its not working, mate.
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As far as I know, systemless stuff works only on Android 6 and above.
Goldeneye is a TouchWiz ROM, therefor it's android 5.

Magisk works on Touchwiz 5.0
Magisk works on android 5.0 touchwiz. Im using lenny bard stock HPG1 rom and PoGo works perfectly

Sure you can do it. i have gt-i9500 variant with 5.1.1 port tw android. magisk work when i want to play pokemon go. the only problem i have now is the systemless xposed not working as expected.

I am under the impression I am not able to get TWRP on mine because its the later version with locked bootloader.. what options are there.. Currently Download Graded to 4.4.4 to use towel root and installed Flashfire so i can install Safestrap
Really want to use Magisk

Dragnous said:
I am under the impression I am not able to get TWRP on mine because its the later version with locked bootloader.. what options are there.. Currently Download Graded to 4.4.4 to use towel root and installed Flashfire so i can install Safestrap
Really want to use Magisk
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Magisk does not work on devices with locked bootloaders.

GDReaper said:
Magisk does not work on devices with locked bootloaders.
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yea had that feeling guess root for me gone yay.. ****ing niantic lol ahahah

Dragnous said:
yea had that feeling guess root for me gone yay.. ****ing niantic lol ahahah
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I know this is pretty old but just a headsup if you have the latest bootloader that is locked you can just download firmware for your region with an older bootloader and flash the entire thing with odin. I had the locked bootloader issue and odin fixed it.

Cryptonite26 said:
I know this is pretty old but just a headsup if you have the latest bootloader that is locked you can just download firmware for your region with an older bootloader and flash the entire thing with odin. I had the locked bootloader issue and odin fixed it.
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Which version of Odin did flash with bro?

Cryptonite26 said:
I know this is pretty old but just a headsup if you have the latest bootloader that is locked you can just download firmware for your region with an older bootloader and flash the entire thing with odin. I had the locked bootloader issue and odin fixed it.
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Ok so you extracted an older bootloader and swapped it out?

Any root method for C432B380?

I can't seem to find any rooting method for C432B380 software. Is there any step-by-step guide for this version? I'm currently on fully stock firmware, and I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet.

SteadyDisorder said:
I can't seem to find any rooting method for C432B380 software. Is there any step-by-step guide for this version? I'm currently on fully stock firmware, and I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet.
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Well, ask for unlock code - that's the first step.

I am interested in this as well, as from what I see some people seem to run into problems. Say one is on Nougat C432B380 (I'm B381) and has now got the unlock code. What then? First of all, unlocking the bootloader will result in a reset, clean C432B380 installation, right? Or will there be any need to flash something else?
EDIT: I passed the unlock part following the Guide, and ended up with a clean Nougat installation as I thought. Now what? In the OldDroid TWRP thread I see many people having trouble...

Makishima said:
I am interested in this as well, as from what I see some people seem to run into problems. Say one is on Nougat C432B380 (I'm B381) and has now got the unlock code. What then? First of all, unlocking the bootloader will result in a reset, clean C432B380 installation, right? Or will there be any need to flash something else?
EDIT: I passed the unlock part following the Guide, and ended up with a clean Nougat installation as I thought. Now what? In the OldDroid TWRP thread I see many people having trouble...
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I recommend staying away from any custom roms for now as all seem to have problems... you say you have an unlocked bootloader, then next step would be flashing a custom recovery, then from there... flashing supersu... try not to do much more than that and accept a fully functioning rooted phone better than getting a squichy camera or whatever from custom roms.... wait till they get stable

Moemen Shahawy said:
I recommend staying away from any custom roms for now as all seem to have problems... you say you have an unlocked bootloader, then next step would be flashing a custom recovery, then from there... flashing supersu... try not to do much more than that and accept a fully functioning rooted phone better than getting a squichy camera or whatever from custom roms.... wait till they get stable
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I was not planning to install a custom ROM, I just want root, mainly for Viper4Android and some other things, but after reading the whole OldDroid TWRP thread I saw some people reporting problems with bootloops and whatnot, mainly after flashing SuperSU. Is flashing TWRP and then EliteKernel and rooting with phh or Magisk preferable? I just got my device back from the Huawei services, with a new board and everything and I don't want to ruin the stock installation again, so I am trying to be a bit more certain before I do anything.
Thank you for replying.
EDIT: Okay, so what I did was flash the latest OldDroid TWRP through fastboot and then I booted into recovery and flashed the latest Magisk (v13.3 I think). Now I have root and everything seems to work. So happy.
EDIT2: It seems that although it says I have root, I can't actually do anything with it, e.g. I can't uninstall system apps with Link2SD even though it says it was successful - reboot, still there - and the modules won't appear even after installing.... So, I don't know what's wrong.

Makishima said:
I was not planning to install a custom ROM, I just want root, mainly for Viper4Android and some other things, but after reading the whole OldDroid TWRP thread I saw some people reporting problems with bootloops and whatnot, mainly after flashing SuperSU. Is flashing TWRP and then EliteKernel and rooting with phh or Magisk preferable? I just got my device back from the Huawei services, with a new board and everything and I don't want to ruin the stock installation again, so I am trying to be a bit more certain before I do anything.
Thank you for replying.
EDIT: Okay, so what I did was flash the latest OldDroid TWRP through fastboot and then I booted into recovery and flashed the latest Magisk (v13.3 I think). Now I have root and everything seems to work. So happy.
EDIT2: It seems that although it says I have root, I can't actually do anything with it, e.g. I can't uninstall system apps with Link2SD even though it says it was successful - reboot, still there - and the modules won't appear even after installing.... So, I don't know what's wrong.
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stay away from magisk if you want something stable... at least my opinion. Magisk is fine, the only add it adds, is magisk hide, which seems to keep failing now for most people. I'm suffering through it now and switching to supersu... try finding the correct way to remove magisk root and go the chainfire's supersu

Moemen Shahawy said:
stay away from magisk if you want something stable... at least my opinion. Magisk is fine, the only add it adds, is magisk hide, which seems to keep failing now for most people. I'm suffering through it now and switching to supersu... try finding the correct way to remove magisk root and go the chainfire's supersu
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I restored a backup of the boot partition I had made when I first flashed TWRP which seems to have deleted Magisk, the app told me it was not installed (even though I see now a Magisk folder in data...) and then flashed Super SU, but I still can't delete system apps and having trouble with Viper*. But maybe it's not SU's fault. I don't know. I flashed v2.79, I previously had trouble with the newest versions.
Also, I had not activated the Hide function, I think.
*It is driving me crazy! Why does it not work? Supposedly I am root, I even deleted the system apps with the file managers but when I exited and reentered the folder they were there again. What is going on?... Wait... Is this normal, is it because it is system-less root?

To root any nougat fw:
1)unlock bootloader. You have to get unlock code from huawey and then in fastboot mode do: "fastboot oem unlock yourcode"
2)flash twrp recovery, i suggest you the hassan's recovery https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120756473
3)in fastboot mode do "fastboot flash recovery nameoftherecovery.img
4)reboot in recovery and flash this supersu
It is the 2.82 for emui 5 without loop mount,is perfect for p9lite https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634776377

Magisk manager and Bootloader

Hello everyone. I want to know, if I unlock my bootloader with TWRP then root with Magisk manager, then do I lose my next Official OTG update? I'm using Stock Samsung Galaxy S8 Oreo. TIA.

najmulbappy said:
Hello everyone. I want to know, if I unlock my bootloader with TWRP then root with Magisk manager, then do I lose my next Official OTG update? I'm using Stock Samsung Galaxy S8 Oreo. TIA.
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Yep. Your Knox get busted and you won't be able to get another official OTA update..
You can still upgrade though, by flashing it using Odin, but I wouldn't recommend using that every time since it wipes your data.

StardustGeass said:
Yep. Your Knox get busted and you won't be able to get another official OTA update..
You can still upgrade though, by flashing it using Odin, but I wouldn't recommend using that every time since it wipes your data.
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I heard that Magick is not same as SuperSU. It won't make any change in system and partition. It is systemless root process so if I unlock just my bootloader and root with Magick why I won't be able to get another official OTA update!

najmulbappy said:
I heard that Magick is not same as SuperSU. It won't make any change in system and partition. It is systemless root process so if I unlock just my bootloader and root with Magick why I won't be able to get another official OTA update!
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The Knox system got busted not because of magisk, but because you're unlocking your bootloader and installing TWRP.
Yes, magisk does offer systemless root, and it ables you to pass safetynet check that is needed to turn on features like Android pay and some bank apps.. But, Samsung pay, and several Samsung apps that relies on Knox is busted once the Knox is tripped.

StardustGeass said:
The Knox system got busted not because of magisk, but because you're unlocking your bootloader and installing TWRP.
Yes, magisk does offer systemless root, and it ables you to pass safetynet check that is needed to turn on features like Android pay and some bank apps.. But, Samsung pay, and several Samsung apps that relies on Knox is busted once the Knox is tripped.
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Thank you so much for nice explanation

Can't install TWRP on S8 Verizon G950-U Variant (Snapdragon)

My phone is rooted but I want to install TWRP so I can install Magisk to hide root status from some apps. I've tried downloading the TWRP official app but after I flash the latest img (3.2.1.0) and boot to recovery I get a "Start Up Failed" message.
I've also tried using Odin to flash it (without root status) and I keep getting "SHA 256" error. Any tips?

hitecold said:
My phone is rooted but I want to install TWRP so I can install Magisk to hide root status from some apps. I've tried downloading the TWRP official app but after I flash the latest img (3.2.1.0) and boot to recovery I get a "Start Up Failed" message.
I've also tried using Odin to flash it (without root status) and I keep getting "SHA 256" error. Any tips?
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You can't flash TWRP if the bootloader is locked. Since it appears you have a US version of Verizon's S8, the bootloader is locked. I know they've released Safestrap which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/recovery-locked-nougat-7-0-safestrap-t3772760, maybe that will help? I don't think you'll be able to flash Magisk though.....

hitecold said:
Any tips?
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Get the exynos s8 if you want twrp.

ccic2491 said:
You can't flash TWRP if the bootloader is locked. Since it appears you have a US version of Verizon's S8, the bootloader is locked. I know they've released Safestrap which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/recovery-locked-nougat-7-0-safestrap-t3772760, maybe that will help? I don't think you'll be able to flash Magisk though.....
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Ah okay.. This is unfortunate hah. I only wanted TWRP to have Magisk in order to hide root status, but I guess I'd be better off unrooting then. Actually, I will try safestrap first. Thanks!
edit: Wait if I just downgrade firmware to anything 6.0+ that has TWRP working that should work right?

hitecold said:
Ah okay.. This is unfortunate hah. I only wanted TWRP to have Magisk in order to hide root status, but I guess I'd be better off unrooting then. Actually, I will try safestrap first. Thanks!
edit: Wait if I just downgrade firmware to anything 6.0+ that has TWRP working that should work right?
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this device was released with 7.0 no magisk either only su

Unlocked bootloader, no root: how to fix GPay?

I've unlocked bootloader with the official tool but didn't do root. Now I have trouble with GPay saying that my device cannot be used for paying.
I don't need root now. So, the question is: is there any way to relock bootloader without rooting the device, installing TWRP, Magisk etc? Or, maybe, can I just trick GPay into believing that everything's fine without relocking?
Any response would be strongly appreciated.

Booolat said:
I've unlocked bootloader with the official tool but didn't do root. Now I have trouble with GPay saying that my device cannot be used for paying.
I don't need root now. So, the question is: is there any way to relock bootloader without rooting the device, installing TWRP, Magisk etc? Or, maybe, can I just trick GPay into believing that everything's fine without relocking?
Any response would be strongly appreciated.
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If you don't need root, why did you unlock it in the first place? You can't relock your bootloader if you have unlocked it with official tool. But by installing Magisk, you can use GPay. If you don't need root, disable it in Magisk settings.

anagramgenius said:
If you don't need root, why did you unlock it in the first place? You can't relock your bootloader if you have unlocked it with official tool. But by installing Magisk, you can use GPay. If you don't need root, disable it in Magisk settings.
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I was trying to resolve some strange unmanageable issue with BT headphones volume and sound quality by installing Ainur module. But somehow it resolved on its own during the unlocking process (due to reset, I guess).
Anyway, I've got the answer: no GPay without root and Magisk. Thank you!