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[GUIDE] [HOW TO] Solve Random Shutdown/ Reboot Problem

People love Nexus devices for the latest version of Android it gets. It's the best device to get updated with the latest version and usually cheaper than other devices in the market with same specification though Nexus 6 is bit exceptional with a bit higher price tag. Latest Android version is always exciting to us but with latest Android version, comes Latest Bugs too May be I became sarcastic, though it's true. Android Lollipop is not an exceptional to come with some bugs. One of the major bug of Lollipop is the RAM leaking issue. People has faced some major RAM leaking issue on their Nexus 5 and now Nexus 6 is also facing it. For Nexus 6 it's a major issue because it's causing Nexus 6 to force reboot and mainly force shutdown. This issue has been marked as Complete on Google Forum by a Google Employee. Jump to the first page to see it and browse through all pages to see that so many people are facing the same issue so there is no need to be panic. You can expect a fix for it as it has been marked Completed by a Google Employee. But for now we need a solution for it. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT IT'S NOT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM, IT'S THE PROBLEM OF THE STOCK KERNEL. SO DON'T GET PANICKED AND REPLACE YOU DEVICE.
If you want to get rid of this problem and want to stay in stock firmware then follow the following steps:
A> Non-Rooted Device:
1. Close all apps before doing heavy tasks. You may see "System" as a recent task, don't be panic, clear it. It may appear sometimes. Even some apps which you've not opened, they may show in recent apps.
2. Don't run some specific games like NOVA3. It'll not let you go forward from the first cut-scene. It'll force shut down the device. [Tested by me]
3. Do reboot your device once in an interval of 5-6 days. 3-4 days are recommended. If you notice the RAM usage daily, you can notice that the RAM usage by System/Settings starts increasing after 2 days of usage without any reboot.
B> Rooted:
If you're rooted, you're good to go for a permanent solution.
1. If you don't want to switch to any Custom ROM, then flash a Custom Kernel like Franco Kernel or ElementalX . It'll help you to get rid of the random reboot/ force shut down.
2. Flash Custom ROMs. There are plenty of custom ROMs available for Nexus 6 which are mostly based on 5.0.2 and doesn't cause problems like this. Giving a small list of the ROMs which are being used by most of the Nexus 6 users
Dirty Unicorns
Official SlimLP Alpha
Euphoria-OS
LiquidSmooth
N6 Nocturnal Limited Edition
If it helps, please do consider pressing the "Thanks" button

Actually, the memory leak is NOT a kernel problem. The reason why it affects *ALL* Nexus devices running 5.0.x is that it is actually a problem in frameworks.
Specifically... frameworks/base/services/core/java/com/android/server/display/ColorFade.java

Neither one of these are solutions and I wouldn't even call them workarounds either

doitright said:
Actually, the memory leak is NOT a kernel problem. The reason why it affects *ALL* Nexus devices running 5.0.x is that it is actually a problem in frameworks.
Specifically... frameworks/base/services/core/java/com/android/server/display/ColorFade.java
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Source?

crachel said:
Neither one of these are solutions and I wouldn't even call them workarounds either
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Actually I got benefited with these solutions. Not only me but also many other Nexus 6 users That's why shared

SAW_JOK3R said:
Source?
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https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c239
I think the actual patch they are referring to is here;
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c177
Incorporated into community roms as;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/d25b891dccd223bb00f45e27062e5391a55be8ff

doitright said:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c239
I think the actual patch they are referring to is here;
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c177
Incorporated into community roms as;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/d25b891dccd223bb00f45e27062e5391a55be8ff
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Thanks Though I think Nexus 6 is getting effected differently as it's going to either force reboot or force shutdown where as hammerhead is facing only high RAM usage.

SAW_JOK3R said:
Thanks Though I think Nexus 6 is getting effected differently as it's going to either force reboot or force shutdown where as hammerhead is facing only high RAM usage.
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All depends on what triggers are set and how bad it gets

Nice post

Teh Ashish said:
Nice post
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Thanks

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.

mattlgroff said:
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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What are you running on it? I'm currently at a *week* of uptime, and no problems noticed at all.

What are people doing to get a random Shutdown/Reboot?
Had mine for a month and it never Shutdown/Reboot on me.
I read that there maybe and update in the near future?

mattlgroff said:
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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May be Google is planning for a direct jump to 5.1 with all major bug fix

AstroDigital said:
What are people doing to get a random Shutdown/Reboot?
Had mine for a month and it never Shutdown/Reboot on me.
I read that there maybe and update in the near future?
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It's happening many of the devices. As it's evident that many other major issues like screen burn-in, problem in speakers etc are not present to every devices, this issue is not an exceptional It seems that Google is planning for 5.1 update for Nexus 6

doitright said:
What are you running on it? I'm currently at a *week* of uptime, and no problems noticed at all.
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Completely stock unrooted, never unlocked on 5.0.1.
I'm also using a stock Moto 360.
Therfreeze happens when it wants to, when I'm not using the phone. I don't usually notice until I next check my phone and the lock button doesn't unlock my phone, then I look at my Moto 360 and see that its become disconnected.

mattlgroff said:
Completely stock unrooted, never unlocked on 5.0.1.
I'm also using a stock Moto 360.
Therfreeze happens when it wants to, when I'm not using the phone. I don't usually notice until I next check my phone and the lock button doesn't unlock my phone, then I look at my Moto 360 and see that its become disconnected.
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Could be related to the watch or some other software you're running. Or an encryption related leak. Like I said, mine's been rock solid. Straight up factory except for non-encrypt and root.
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SAW_JOK3R said:
It's happening many of the devices. As it's evident that many other major issues like screen burn-in, problem in speakers etc are not present to every devices, this issue is not an exceptional It seems that Google is planning for 5.1 update for Nexus 6
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Lets hope for hwcrypto....

doitright said:
Could be related to the watch or some other software you're running. Or an encryption related leak. Like I said, mine's been rock solid. Straight up factory except for non-encrypt and root.
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Lets hope for hwcrypto....
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I think encryption has nothing to do with the random reboots And if you're considering moto 360's apps for this, then I should say, No

SAW_JOK3R said:
I think encryption has nothing to do with the random reboots
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On what do you judge that? Software crypto is a very heavy memory user. From what I've heard, the reboots seem to be related to memory pressure.
And if you're considering moto 360's apps for this, then I should say, No
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"Android wear" has very serious tentacles that run through frameworks and gapps. Applications themselves COULD NOT be the problem since Android will just kill them when the memory hit becomes too big, but the frameworks tentacles are another story altogether.
In any case, my point about hwcrypto was more about performance improvements from AOSP 5.1 rather than random reboots.

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On what do you judge that? Software crypto is a very heavy memory user. From what I've heard, the reboots seem to be related to memory pressure.
"Android wear" has very serious tentacles that run through frameworks and gapps. Applications themselves COULD NOT be the problem since Android will just kill them when the memory hit becomes too big, but the frameworks tentacles are another story altogether.
In any case, my point about hwcrypto was more about performance improvements from AOSP 5.1 rather than random reboots.
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There is RAM leaking but I've noticed today that when I went to see the RAM usage after booting up from a force shutdown, then there was 1.8GB of free RAM and then I scrolled a little bit to see which apps are occupying the space. Then guess what? Bam, again a force shut down

LG G4 performance

So I bought my G4 from T-mobile yesterday as I did the initial install it feels choppy and laggy. After all the google play updates and restart the phone was still laggy when I move from app to app, home screen to setting and back. What I found out that help was changing the layout in Setting from Tab View to List View as you navigate around the phone like what I did previously everything became smooth and no longer laggy. Havent run into any issue with battery drain, wifi, touch screen, heat as most users describe yet will update if I find alternative solution.

After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.

Yeah mine was same first startup is slow feels so laggy. But now feels great and battery life is also improved. I disabled most of google apps only have gmail.
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soyelmango said:
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
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Ahhh indexing that sounds quite about right for a moment I thought because UI itself throttle down the cpu of the phone so it seems laggy. Thanks for info hope it gets better in a couple of days as for apps that are not needed which bloatware apps do u guys disable so it doesnt run in the background and such?

Mine almost seems as if the phone doesn't have the resources to handle high usage. I'm waiting patiently for root so we can slim it down and better utilize cpu scaling (on demand, performance, etc)
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The G4s (And I guess along with other phones) do have a sizable amount of bloatware installed as well. Just looking at the apps pre-installed from out of the box, there's quite a bit for a brand new phone.
Even though my G4 is broken in now, I found that after I disabled a buttload of these apps, it felt a bit snappier.
And I guess as a recommendation since you just got the phone. Replace the text messaging app ASAP! Stock is garbage, after I imported about 10'000 messages from my old phone, it slowed down as if I had it for a while. After replacing it with Textra. It's smooth as butter. Best decision I've ever made, and I generally hate leaving stock app for another one because I prefer less clutter.
Another one is to replace the stock keyboard with something like SwiftKey. This is a no brainer after using the stock keyboard for a while.
Some choose to replace Chrome as well with Firefox, or nochromo.
Just my top 3 recommendations for our G4s. After doing these 3, everything felt a lot better.

spartan268 said:
The G4s (And I guess along with other phones) do have a sizable amount of bloatware installed as well. Just looking at the apps pre-installed from out of the box, there's quite a bit for a brand new phone.
Even though my G4 is broken in now, I found that after I disabled a buttload of these apps, it felt a bit snappier.
And I guess as a recommendation since you just got the phone. Replace the text messaging app ASAP! Stock is garbage, after I imported about 10'000 messages from my old phone, it slowed down as if I had it for a while. After replacing it with Textra. It's smooth as butter. Best decision I've ever made, and I generally hate leaving stock app for another one because I prefer less clutter.
Another one is to replace the stock keyboard with something like SwiftKey. This is a no brainer after using the stock keyboard for a while.
Some choose to replace Chrome as well with Firefox, or nochromo.
Just my top 3 recommendations for our G4s. After doing these 3, everything felt a lot better.
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Yeah took your advice and replace with google stock messenger, swiftkey, and have not try out the nochromo yet

My G4 works just amazing and it is very smooth and snappy. My version is H815L.

Exactly one must wait about two days so it all settled down. A factory reset helps if your phone didn't come with the newest update 5.1 or what not. But yeah

Mine didn't come with too much bloat if at all so I never had any lag issues, but using Textra and SwiftKey helped a with speeding it up. The stock messaging app wasn't cutting it
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soyelmango said:
After a fresh start (after factory reset, ROM flash, OS upgrade), the system does lots of indexing and set up, leading to a laggy phone and high battery drain. Give it a couple of days to settle down.
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Lmao what b.s is that. Couple of days? May be you meant months?
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wadamean said:
Exactly one must wait about two days so it all settled down. A factory reset helps if your phone didn't come with the newest update 5.1 or what not. But yeah
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2 days hah? You guys just invent this stuff or what?
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ambervals6 said:
Lmao what b.s is that. Couple of days? May be you meant months?
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2 days hah? You guys just invent this stuff or what?
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No. There're countless threads where things such as battery life and performance shot up after 2 days.

spartan268 said:
No. There're countless threads where things such as battery life and performance shot up after 2 days.
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Must be a lg thing I didn't know. Thanks.
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It is getting smoother and snappier but still see that animation lag when you're at home screen and press app drawer..do that multiple time and you will see the jitter. BTW I also disable alot of unnecessary app dont know if this come into play and also an option in Battery Setting where it say to reduce game graphic I turn that off:good:. Hopefully it is running at higher cpu/graphic frequency. Question does anyone know what OEM UNLOCK is in Developer menu?

I can play godfire without any issues

Oh look, it's you!!

Is your OPT feeling pretty slow?

Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.

Lol coming from an s6 you think its laggy? I switched from an s6 and compared to that this is the fastest phone I've ever had
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Yes it is laggy as oxygen is still on beta, but you should wait and give time as it is a beast, give some time to one plus and they will fix the issues

You did update it right? The build it comes with is as dog**** as the home button is

Just update to 2.0.2 and u'll be fine.
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Yup.. It usually lags when you switch to airplane mode.
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Phone is brand new. OxygenOS is in beta.. Let some development happen man, these specs dont lie

I updated and just got mine! Excited but it is slow. Some things up

Seems fast to me. I showed the OPT to my coworker who has an S6 Edge and he was impressed. He said it was faster than his S6. I didn't even ask him that.

Lol you obviously didn't use the fingerprint sensor to turn it on then or try to go to the home screen pressing the sensor home button. Jk

I've had several phones with fingerprint scanners and this one is by far the fastest so far and the phone is quick. Home button works great also. Maybe I just got lucky.

Yeah mine's pretty slow. I went into a phone store today and tried out the Huawei Mate 7, which on paper looks way behind the Oneplus 2, and it KILLED my OPT when opening apps.
I often get lag here and there, but this is less of a problem for me. My mane gripe is how long it takes to open an app. Like, I hit the Phone icon and it literally takes up to a second to launch. That Mate 7 was practically instant.
What gives, Oneplus?

A lot of the issues I initially had with oxygen were fixed after disabling hardware buttons, including excessive battery drain, heating up, and lag similar to what you're seeing. Maybe it has something to do with grounding? Or maybe I just got used to it :S

This phone is just not meant to be a daily driver with the frustration it brings. If you want to be less mad install cm 12.1. Makes things much better than oxygen

Try flashing OxygenOS 2.0.2 again and then factory reset. You may see a bump in speed. I personally have no quirks with the fluidity of the phone. While it does have some bugs all over the place, never once did the phone feel sluggish. But with that said, the OS does need a lot more polish to really make it feel truly complete. Right now despite all the OTAs OxygenOS still feels incomplete, or maybe its because I'm too used to the versatility of a CM based ROM.

It's slow for about a minute after boot but then things are really fast

Jazza2246 said:
Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.
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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
Update:- actually the CPU now has really less usage after disabling (5% after disabling.).

[email protected] said:
Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..

For those complaining about the slow app launching, download a 3rd party launcher and you'll see instantly the difference in app launching. I prefer google now launcher to maintain that stock feel.

Mehul.S said:
That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..
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You see, I saw some lag and I went to developer options>show CPU usage and the most of the CPU usage came from the sheets and slides apps.

Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

jusegozu said:
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.

Anyone seen MKBHD's recent pixel 2 xl video? ??

So when i seen the thumbnail and title i had to watch it and jeez at least from my point of view dude was right! I was running completely stock no Root no kernel just stock at the time and i didn't realize my phone had slowed down at a noticeable rate from when i first bought the phone Back in December until i watched that video! Obviously the simple solution was to scale down animations right? So i did that and bam phone was running at full speed again BUT my issue was that for a phone this expensive, timely updates and patches, made by Google, and a stock Android experience one shouldn't have to go through anything like that to keep their phone running at full speed right? But anyway after watching that i decided to give the final beta a try and oh man I fell deeply in love with it especially the gestures. I do think the recent cards seriously need to be optimized much better because trying to swipe through them to get back to a specific app a few pages back can be really annoying. Then i got the notification for the official pie release so of course i upgraded. The battery life, speed, and fluidity is what stood out to me the most! It was perfect! Now I've been using only one custom kernel while on Oreo and that's Flash's so i decided to give that a try on Android pie and the speed and battery life still improved! From the day i got this phone I've never experienced this type of speed and battery life before. It's just freaking amazing and made me fall in love with my pixel again lol. Shout out to flash and the squad!
Any thoughts on your experiences?

I haven't run into any of the lag issues, but that's probably because I run a custom ROM/kernel. I did watch some videos of the lag and that would drive me insane!

Read an article yesterday that a few P2XL's out there are experiencing this and google is replacing the phones. Apparently it's related to a hardware issue.

peoplesindian said:
Read an article yesterday that a few P2XL's out there are experiencing this and google is replacing the phones. Apparently it's related to a hardware issue.
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I saw that too. From what I gleaned, the lag must make the phone practically unusable in order to qualify for a replacement.

https://amp-tomsguide-com.cdn.amppr...e-pixel-2-xl-free-replacement,news-27834.html There's the article if you decide to try to replace it good luck with device RNG.
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https://amp-tomsguide-com.cdn.amppr...e-pixel-2-xl-free-replacement,news-27834.html here's the article.

There's a thread discussing this already:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/noticed-slowdowns-phone-t3823898
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