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I know the camera issue has been beat to death already but I've been testing it for many days and would like to relay my results. A lot of people are saying that the auto focus is bad causing blurry pictures. This is false, the focus works great but the camera always chooses a shutter speed that's to low for the lighting causing blur on subjects in motion. The only way I can get the shutter speed over 1/20 is by taking a picture in bright light. Even in above average lighting conditions the shutter will go to 1/20 or below. There is no option for metering so I wonder if LG coded something wrong in the camera drivers. I have tried every camera program out there and they all take the exact same picture using the same to low shutter speed which tells me it's not the stock camera app. I don't have the skill to dive into the programming but that is where the problem seems to be. It's the same brand (Sony) camera sensor as the SGS4 so I know that it's not the sensors fault.
Any thoughts?
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Anybody else have any ideas?
I'm also seeing these ridiculous shutter speeds (1/14, 1/20) when shooting in low light indoors, even if picking Sport mode, and was looking for a discussion on the topic here. Happy to find it
I had almost given up getting the camera to do what I wanted, when I discovered that the Intelligent Auto feature actually sometimes is ... intelligent. I took 4 photos of my toddler - obviously, not a subject willing to sit still. All photos on intelligent auto.
For two of the photos, the software shot with ISO 700 and 1/15th shutter, pretty much what Normal does every time. But - the other two were taken with ISO 1400-1/30 and ISO 1500-1/30. Naturally, the latter two were a lot sharper.
This is incredibly annoying since the Normal mode only lets you manually pick max ISO 800 and gives no shutter speed control. Until I found out about this intelligent auto thing, I forced -1, -1 1/3 stops underexposure to make the camera use a faster shutter (it typically used 1/59 for some reason). Now I guess I will take 5-6 pics every time and hope the camera is indeed intelligent part of the time.
- Is there no custom camera app capable of setting shutter speed manually, and use the ISO settings available to Intelligent Auto?
- Noone's had any word from LG on this?
I will be contacting LG support about this as well, but wanted to get the XDA word on the matter first...
Cheers, Are
Just replying to say I'm having the same issue. The fastest shutter speed I've seen is 1/15 in a well lit, easy to focus shot. The vast majority of my shots are blurry as a result.
I'm running Cyanogenmod at the moment.
I'm having pretty bad shutter speeds as well. It take 2 seconds to take a well-lit picture.
Guys , Try out the Moto X camera app. I may be wrong but i think its a bit faster .
JasElS said:
I'm having pretty bad shutter speeds as well. It take 2 seconds to take a well-lit picture.
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farazafs said:
Guys , Try out the Moto X camera app. I may be wrong but i think its a bit faster .
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I'm not talking about how long it takes to take the picture, that's delay. I'm talking shutter speed, how long the shutter stays open allowing light to hit the sensor.
I have not had any big problems with this, most of my shots are pretty tack sharp, and seem to have some decent shutterspeeds.. Only in very poor light I do get 1/15 shutterspeeds but at pretty average lights I get 1/30-1/120 sometimes faster, but mostly 1/40..
My shutterdelay is almist nothing too..
I found a modified version of the stock LG G2 camera by sefnap that works with CM 10.2 M1 and produces much better results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522889
Some of the features don't work but overall it's vastly better than the camera included with CM.
There is also another modified version of the stock camera put up by Heatshiver that probably works even better but it doesn't currently work with CM (only works with stock and some AOSP ROMs): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525783
I just discovered something the other day when playing with my camera... Albeit in bright light. Check out these pics taken at 60mph from my car while I was driving (ie not the most steady hand).
What I did was set it on sports mode and then old down the camera button until I heard the beep, and then released to capture the image I wanted (ie the road signs). The one out of my car window was actually more focused than I could focus with my naked eye...
I want to set shutter speed at 30 sec like on my old g4 but i can't find an app that allows me do that. I tried manual camera and pro shot but the minimum shutter speed is only 1/5 sec
albj13 said:
I want to set shutter speed at 30 sec like on my old g4 but i can't find an app that allows me do that. I tried manual camera and pro shot but the minimum shutter speed is only 1/5 sec
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Proshot has "light paint" mode which allows longer shutter speeds...
Nexus 6P seems to be limited to 1/5 (0.2s).
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Proshot has "light paint" mode which allows longer shutter speeds...
Nexus 6P seems to be limited to 1/5 (0.2s).
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Thanks but it's not what I want (with g4 i can photograph a night sky full of stars for example.)...dp you know if these .2 sec are an hardware limitation or if it is software? If it's the second may someone CAM change this!
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I want to set shutter speed at 30 sec like on my old g4 but i can't find an app that allows me do that. I tried manual camera and pro shot but the minimum shutter speed is only 1/5 sec
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It's currently impossible on the 6p. The hardware has been locked down. Devs can't change that. Like I just finished telling someone else, take it to Google...maybe they'll listen if enough people complain.
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It's currently impossible on the 6p. The hardware has been locked down. Devs can't change that. Like I just finished telling someone else, take it to Google...maybe they'll listen if enough people complain.
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I went for huawei p9 plus, yesterday i sold my 6p and buyed this... photos on night are incredibles!
Hi,
I'm the developer of Open Camera ( http://opencamera.org.uk/ / https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-camera-t2850557/ ) and was wondering what people's experiences were on the OnePlus 3T with third party camera apps that use Camera2 API?
I've tested a few different third party cameras on my OnePlus 3T, with Camera2 enabled as follows:
Open Camera: enable Settings/"Use Camera2 API".
A Better Camera: enable Settings/General settings/More/"Use Camera2 interface".
Snap Camera HDR (Trial): enable Settings/Other/"Use Camera2 API".
Camera FV-5: this uses Camera2 by default.
AZ Camera: this uses Camera2 by default.
Footej: this uses Camera2 by default.
Lightroom (which has a built-in camera using Camera2)
Mostly things seem good, but there are some issues on my device (these occurred on both Oxygen 4.0.2 and 4.0.3):
* Most seriously, I've seen problems to do with using manual shutter speed. This usually shows in the form of preview corruption (it shows a split-screen, or starts scrolling), but sometimes there's a camera error, in some cases the entire phone freezes for several seconds (with even the home button not responding). In rare cases the phone becomes sluggish until a reboot is forced. It seems to happen with bright scenes (e.g., outdoors in daytime, or pointing close to a bright light - say shutter speed 1/100s or less). There are a few ways to reproduce this:
1. Switch to manual shutter speed, then back to auto. Then point to a bright scene, after a few moments the problem usually happens.
2. Point at bright scene and switch to manual shutter speed, and wait a few moments.
3. Switch to manual shutter speed, and keep varying the shutter speed (even if not pointing to bright scene).
I've reproduced this with: Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej, Lightroom.
Unfortunately this doesn't just make manual mode unreliable, but also affects implementation of things like HDR, expo bracketing.
* The ISO value (and possibly shutter speed?) reported by the Camera driver is incorrect in dark scenes. This can be seen by the on-screen values in Open Camera, A Better Camera (see Settings/Viewfinder settings/More/ISO value), Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej. In Open Camera, this value is CaptureResult.SENSOR_SENSITIVITY obtained from the CaptureRequest request received by onCaptureCompleted.
It can also be seen by looking at the reported ISO in the image's Exif data.
The maximum reported values are ISO 799 and shutter speed 1/16.7s. Why do I suspect this to be incorrect? Firstly because taking a photo of the same scene with the stock camera will show much higher ISO in the Exif (even though the photo looks similar), secondly because switching to manual ISO value of ~800 (either in the stock or a third party camera) results in a much darker photos.
Note, this bug is more serious than it might sound, as it messes up things like using HDR for darker scenes.
* Possibly related to this is that setting a manual ISO of above 800 seems to have no effect - photos are still taken as if they had ISO 800. This can be reproduced with Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR.
Also, not a camera2 issue, but still relevant to the OnePlus 3T, is double-power-button to open camera: if the device is unlocked, it launches the default camera app, but if the device is locked, it only seems to open the stock OnePlus camera app. Open Camera sets an intent filter for both android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA and android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA_SECURE . This works okay on my Nexus 6. On my OnePlus, the app info for the stock camera app says "no defaults set", so there's nothing to clear.
Supposedly the preferred way to report bugs is https://forums.oneplus.net/feedback/ , but I can't create a new thread until I've posted 5 replies (ah yes, anti-spam measures that encourage users to spam) so I'll have to post here for now. I thought it'd be interesting to know if others have experienced or can reproduce these - or if you're experiencing different issues altogether? (Sometimes even on a single model, there can be frustrating camera bugs that only show on some devices for whatever reason.)
I like to play with manual mode, but just a casual shooter so haven't gone to details, but will give this try. I know there are some inaccuracy, but it's affirming coming from a pro. You can just comment 5 times and post in the oneplus forum. I will also test and post the feedback.
May be fixing these will result in impressive picture quality as hardware is capable just the processing which is average.
Thanks for the finding and posting, at least we know some of the reason now.
I've had problems with the manual shutter speed. Happens when reducing it. Picture starts scrolling then phone freezes up
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mdwh said:
Hi,
I'm the developer of Open Camera ( http://opencamera.org.uk/ / https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-camera-t2850557/ ) and was wondering what people's experiences were on the OnePlus 3T with third party camera apps that use Camera2 API?
I've tested a few different third party cameras on my OnePlus 3T, with Camera2 enabled as follows:
Open Camera: enable Settings/"Use Camera2 API".
A Better Camera: enable Settings/General settings/More/"Use Camera2 interface".
Snap Camera HDR (Trial): enable Settings/Other/"Use Camera2 API".
Camera FV-5: this uses Camera2 by default.
AZ Camera: this uses Camera2 by default.
Footej: this uses Camera2 by default.
Lightroom (which has a built-in camera using Camera2)
Mostly things seem good, but there are some issues on my device (these occurred on both Oxygen 4.0.2 and 4.0.3):
* Most seriously, I've seen problems to do with using manual shutter speed. This usually shows in the form of preview corruption (it shows a split-screen, or starts scrolling), but sometimes there's a camera error, in some cases the entire phone freezes for several seconds (with even the home button not responding). In rare cases the phone becomes sluggish until a reboot is forced. It seems to happen with bright scenes (e.g., outdoors in daytime, or pointing close to a bright light - say shutter speed 1/100s or less). There are a few ways to reproduce this:
1. Switch to manual shutter speed, then back to auto. Then point to a bright scene, after a few moments the problem usually happens.
2. Point at bright scene and switch to manual shutter speed, and wait a few moments.
3. Switch to manual shutter speed, and keep varying the shutter speed (even if not pointing to bright scene).
I've reproduced this with: Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej, Lightroom.
Unfortunately this doesn't just make manual mode unreliable, but also affects implementation of things like HDR, expo bracketing.
* The ISO value (and possibly shutter speed?) reported by the Camera driver is incorrect in dark scenes. This can be seen by the on-screen values in Open Camera, A Better Camera (see Settings/Viewfinder settings/More/ISO value), Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej. In Open Camera, this value is CaptureResult.SENSOR_SENSITIVITY obtained from the CaptureRequest request received by onCaptureCompleted.
It can also be seen by looking at the reported ISO in the image's Exif data.
The maximum reported values are ISO 799 and shutter speed 1/16.7s. Why do I suspect this to be incorrect? Firstly because taking a photo of the same scene with the stock camera will show much higher ISO in the Exif (even though the photo looks similar), secondly because switching to manual ISO value of ~800 (either in the stock or a third party camera) results in a much darker photos.
Note, this bug is more serious than it might sound, as it messes up things like using HDR for darker scenes.
* Possibly related to this is that setting a manual ISO of above 800 seems to have no effect - photos are still taken as if they had ISO 800. This can be reproduced with Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR.
Also, not a camera2 issue, but still relevant to the OnePlus 3T, is double-power-button to open camera: if the device is unlocked, it launches the default camera app, but if the device is locked, it only seems to open the stock OnePlus camera app. Open Camera sets an intent filter for both android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA and android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA_SECURE . This works okay on my Nexus 6. On my OnePlus, the app info for the stock camera app says "no defaults set", so there's nothing to clear.
Supposedly the preferred way to report bugs is https://forums.oneplus.net/feedback/ , but I can't create a new thread until I've posted 5 replies (ah yes, anti-spam measures that encourage users to spam) so I'll have to post here for now. I thought it'd be interesting to know if others have experienced or can reproduce these - or if you're experiencing different issues altogether? (Sometimes even on a single model, there can be frustrating camera bugs that only show on some devices for whatever reason.)
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hey man first of all thank you very much for developing that app, its awwwwsssome and btw oneplus implemented camera2api in op3t poorly so that could be the reason ( if they were able to implement api2 correctly then there wouldve been 240 fps slow mo for op3t)
I was able to reproduce every issue you've said on my 3T - OOS 4.0.3 - mainly incorrect EXIF data when using camera app <> stock.
Open Camera works okay for me (as it crashes the least), but when trying CFV-5 or Manual Camera then I was also able to reproduce the freezing/hanging/glitched preview screen.
Also a thing I noticed, that my rear camera takes brighter pictures in low light than the back, even tough the shutter is longer on the rear (probably incorrectly reported) - more info here.
I was able to reproduce all of the issues you mentioned on an OOS 4.0.3 based custom ROM, which I guess is kinda the same as stock.
This is a serious issue, you should definitely report this to Oneplus, since all of us seem to be affected by it.
Another thing: Higher ISO and lower shutter speed combo works as intended in the stock camera app. I suspect foul play by Oneplus.
I've experienced the lock screen issue before but not used the camera enough to really notice the other problems yet. I actually have Open Camera installed. Nice work and I love the fact that you open sourced it and didn't plague us with more ads. That is very appreciated!
I really miss the camera app I used on the OnePlus One but its just not compatible (or that's the rumor) with newer models. Maybe Ill flash it.
Definately keep trying on the feedback link. I know the spam-to-post thing is stupid. Have you tried the User Feedback app? Or is that only on the Beta?
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For what it's worth after I received my 3t I saw how slow the stock camera was and it's inability to stop motion very well and installed your app and it works quite well. I use your app as my default camera app.
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For what it's worth after I received my 3t I saw how slow the stock camera was and it's inability to stop motion very well and installed your app and it works quite well. I use your app as my default camera app.
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Seriously? You defenetly confused with camera apps.
Stock oos camera is wonderful. For exemple, now I'm using as my daily rom, dedicated and unnoficial laos by nvertigo67 for 3t. And I can say, that it is the best rom by far.
Just a moment ago, I'm installed and tested opencamera, and can say anything good (if comparing it with stock one). So please, just try something else and you will see how is amazing, fast, smooth the stock one. Btw, there you can find snapdragon camera(introduce by @nvertigo67 too), that have same perfomance and quality. I'm just prefer oos cam, becouse ui more comfortable.
@mdwh
Nothing personal. You making a good app (use it on my opo). Just whanted to say, that stock one is superb, with op bloobs. Even in laos build.
Getting green squares instead of front camera photos
Thanks for your responses, I've now posted on the OnePlus forums at https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera2-api-bugs-for-3rd-party-camera-apps.506100/ .
mdwh said:
Thanks for your responses, I've now posted on the OnePlus forums at https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera2-api-bugs-for-3rd-party-camera-apps.506100/ .
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They responded quickly. Surprisingly quickly. I'm interested to see how fast they will react though...
lapapunk said:
Seriously? You defenetly confused with camera apps.
Stock oos camera is wonderful. For exemple, now I'm using as my daily rom, dedicated and unnoficial laos by nvertigo67 for 3t. And I can say, that it is the best rom by far.
Just a moment ago, I'm installed and tested opencamera, and can say anything good (if comparing it with stock one). So please, just try something else and you will see how is amazing, fast, smooth the stock one. Btw, there you can find snapdragon camera(introduce by @nvertigo67 too), that have same perfomance and quality. I'm just prefer oos cam, becouse ui more comfortable.
@mdwh
Nothing personal. You making a good app (use it on my opo). Just whanted to say, that stock one is superb, with op bloobs. Even in laos build.
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Obviously you are confused
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A month passed, new open beta, same thing is in it.
prathyand said:
I have talked to a ROM Enginieer from OP. He says that it is internally fixed but not released in OpenBetas. Will be released soon. Let's wait n see .
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Source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera2-api-bugs-for-3rd-party-camera-apps.506100/#post-16131084
And I really want to have back the functions from Open Camera. It's the main camera since years now and I don't wanna miss it. Never.
Well, there's hope.
What should I say... I really tried my best to get their attention, but the administrative audience keeps being quiet. I really thought of getting an OP5, but at all points in summary, they really grew trust issues. Wasn't one point of their slogan, they hear what the users want? I really don't think so. Otherwise, this issue would have been fixed ages ago or at least a reply from someone who really works on fixing issues like that. That's a major bug and nobody cares. Sad.
I'm really fed up with this situation. I like to try lots of custom ROMs but I'm basically stuck with using stock OOS just for the camera. What can we do to make this happen? Phone calls? Lots of emails? I'm willing to make a lot of fuss to pressure these mofos into fixing this POS API thing.
@redsmith: Abandon OnePlus once and forever. I'm already looking for a new OEM. Currently, there are no developer-friendly phones out, so I have to wait a bit. I won't support this company any longer that claims "We hear what customers say!". They don't. They only look forward to get their newest devices sold by hype. They're not as tiny as they make us believe. They're close to OPPO (even in the same building). They could fix this problem if they want but sadly it seems, that they simply don't.
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What should I say... I really tried my best to get their attention, but the administrative audience keeps being quiet. I really thought of getting an OP5, but at all points in summary, they really grew trust issues. Wasn't one point of their slogan, they hear what the users want? I really don't think so. Otherwise, this issue would have been fixed ages ago or at least a reply from someone who really works on fixing issues like that. That's a major bug and nobody cares. Sad.
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I'm really fed up with this situation. I like to try lots of custom ROMs but I'm basically stuck with using stock OOS just for the camera. What can we do to make this happen? Phone calls? Lots of emails? I'm willing to make a lot of fuss to pressure these mofos into fixing this POS API thing.
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@redsmith: Abandon OnePlus once and forever. I'm already looking for a new OEM. Currently, there are no developer-friendly phones out, so I have to wait a bit. I won't support this company any longer that claims "We hear what customers say!". They don't. They only look forward to get their newest devices sold by hype. They're not as tiny as they make us believe. They're close to OPPO (even in the same building). They could fix this problem if they want but sadly it seems, that they simply don't.
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@Funk Wizard
redsmith said:
I'm really fed up with this situation. I like to try lots of custom ROMs but I'm basically stuck with using stock OOS just for the camera. What can we do to make this happen? Phone calls? Lots of emails? I'm willing to make a lot of fuss to pressure these mofos into fixing this POS API thing.
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No. Phoenix AEX has the OOS camera (not the port). It's exact. I've even used the new Camera2 for the OP5 on Phoenix. Try it. However, I'm using Sultan's SnapDragon Camera (works on LOS based ROMs and Phoenix since Phoenix auto-switches camera HALs), and it really beats any camera app I've tried in quality ... there are setting to tweak ... quality set to high, raised contrast a step or two up, sharpness a step up, saturation a step down, but ... its my new default.
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto Z2 Force come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.
Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.
Ksehwail said:
So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.
Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.
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Camera shutter speed seems to be a stock app issue mostly. I have CameraZoom FX and that works better at taking the picture quickly. I do expect this to improve as the device matures and some updates get pushed out to it.
That being said, the overall photo quality seems to be pretty good overall. The S8 I am leaving does a better job of handling multiple light levels (like say bright window light in an otherwise dimly lit room), but I do think the Z2F has some promise for sure.
I do agree that I think the shutter lag is very 2015.....so hoping Moto does fix that
disappointing camera
Ksehwail said:
The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure.
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I agree with this. The camera app is terrible. I came from the HTC 10 into this phone and the HTC blows it out of the water as far as camera quality goes, and I doubt there's any reason for that as far as the sensor/hardware goes There are also other apps that don't seem to access the front flash on this phone, I.E. Instagram, snapchat, etc. could be a driver issue or something, but motorola needs to get it together with the Android O update.
Has any compared picture quality with Open Camera and the google camera app?
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I just noticed that they added two features to the camera app. Object recognition and landmark recognition.They said that they included some bug fixes but did not elaborate. Hopefully they will continue to work on the app and image quality will improve as the phone matures. I think there is potential to improve low light photo's seeing that the black and white sensor should aid low light photography.
So far I am very happy with my photo's. I am a casual user and happy with the images. Realistically I do not think one can expect DSLR quality on a mobile phone. Maybe one day....
I've used several third party apps, and this camera is total trash compared to even my nearly three year old Galaxy S6.. I have to place dramatic Instagram-style filters on everything to hide how crappy this camera is.
I took this picture with full manual mode and it's quite good for me
why not use Hasellblad?
RE910177 said:
why not use Hasellblad?
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It's only useful for its optical zoom.
Does anyone have problem with autofocus....? The autofocus on this device is absolutely terrible.
Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
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xRogerxC said:
Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
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So, I'm reading through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/themes/app-modded-gcam-hdr-t3735494 ; there seems to be no gcam available for Z2, which would be fully functional. Are you saying you solved this issue and have one that works? Perhaps you can post to the thread with your findings if you did?
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Images are not very sharp. If you are looking for good camera, look for another device. Panorama mode has low resolution, even when camera is 13MPx panoramas are usually smaller than that. You can fix this by changing camera application. But this only helps with panorama. But overall image sharpens will not improve with any app.
Post capture processing really sucks!!!
Is there any way to disable it?
Agreed about the post processing - makes pictures very soft. Colour rendition is really good. White balance, contrast, dynamic range all reasonable. Focus a bit slow but ok. Correctly exposing for backlit subjects pretty good.
Video is good, except sometimes looks like it's lacking in bitrate. Will try OpenCamera and see if I can tweak this.
Overall rating: 5 out of 10. Would go to 7 if Moto fix the image softness.
Can anyone post some pictures taken with this phone. I have a Galaxy S5 and I'm looking for an upgrade.
Anyone checked the latest moto camera 2 version?
I think picture quality is still the same but there is reduction in yellowish tint(i dont like yellowish pics)....
I'm impressed with the dynamic range and colours, which seem to be very good. The main issues with the camera are lack of detail and poor low light performance. I'd imagine the first one is fixable via software but I have doubts about the sensors low light ability.
Overall photos are well exposed and colours are good, but my main issue is grainy images when you zoom in on photos.
This camera is horrid. Granted, I'm coming from a 6p, but found some pics taken with my old old droid x, and they were miles ahead of this thing they call a camera. Time to break out the d5100 again!
The camera is disgusting. I was so ambitious about the camera and it disappointed me miserably.
I don't know what some of you are expecting. Its the best phone in the mid-range, compared to its specifications. BUT somewhere the missing money, becomes visible. In this phone its the cam. The cam is useful if enough light is present.
In a potratit mode camera work properly
How much time take and focus proper work after every update
In a custom ROM camera work proper with every mode
Whoops. Delete my post.
For some reason I got confused and posted about how impressed I am with the photos from my Moto G5+ here, I didn't realize it was the section for the newer S model until after posting.
I've heard the dual camera thing with the S hasn't been so great in the real world, and the sensor in the regular G5+ (which is similar to the one found in the Galaxy S7) may actually be capable of better shots. But I think its because Moto is weird about the software that runs the camera, with over-processing and highlight clipping that can be avoided with better software. Using an app that handles Camera2 makes a huge difference on the G5+, which I was originally posting about until I realized I'm in the wrong place. Sorry guys!
The problem with the camera in this phone is almost 100% software. The automatic settings of the Moto camera app generate horrible photos.
Look at your photo information (when viewing the photo in Google Photos, tap the "i" icon at the bottom) and specifically note the ISO. With this sensor hardware anything over ISO400 is going to be relatively unusable (mottled/blurry detail/sharpness with image noise). If you shoot the same photo in "Professional Mode" manually setting the ISO (at or below ISO400) and the shutter speed, the results are actually quite acceptable, if not even very good.
The flash on this camera is a much more natural color (somewhere in the 2000k range rather than the usual bright white LED >5000k), so using the flash (when feasible) in combination with better manual settings will also help.
Even using manual settings there's still some post-processing fickery going on, but that's still all software. I wish Moto would add an option to turn post-processing off. I think they don't have that option though because most people use the camera in fully automatic mode and the pictures would be REALLY bad if they weren't post-processed when using that mode.
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Any better flashing a custom Rom or different camera app?
Hi, a friend's of mine buy the moto g5s plus thinking it's gona be better for the photo of the moto g4 he still have.
Result that the photo are not so good, moto g4 it's better.
But someone have already try to install a custom Rom on the moto g5 plus, maybe with Oreo, and result any improvement on the camera and photo?
Or try a different mod for the camera app that result in a improvement for the camera?
If anyone have try that way and can share it's result and opinion about it I will appreciated. My friend don't want to avoid the warranty of the phone for nothing.
Thanks.
Iurop said:
Hi, a friend's of mine buy the moto g5s plus thinking it's gona be better for the photo of the moto g4 he still have.
Result that the photo are not so good, moto g4 it's better.
But someone have already try to install a custom Rom on the moto g5 plus, maybe with Oreo, and result any improvement on the camera and photo?
Or try a different mod for the camera app that result in a improvement for the camera?
If anyone have try that way and can share it's result and opinion about it I will appreciated. My friend don't want to avoid the warranty of the phone for nothing.
Thanks.
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Are you talking about g5 plus or g5s plus? Because you mention the one with the s.
Hi, yeah I'm talking about the moto g5s plus. I saw in the xda forum that are present a tread about camera mods, and for use those mod need to enable the full access to API2 cam. But looks like that the main problem with the moto g5s plus camera it's not solved in that way.
For that I though that maybe install a custom Rom, possibly with Oreo, helps or solve the camera issue, considering that the real problem it's software not the hardware. There are many Rom with Oreo to try, for that I'll ask if someone already try that way and get the problem solved, or better wait for an official update from motorola-lenovo and see if they solve.
in low light conditions the result is really bad, with the light discrete but not excelled
Camera is mid range and awfull fotos.... For me isn't very good. Videos are much better
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? with gcam
Taken with gcam on g5+ I had my A7RII with me on this trip, but took some shots with my phone as well because the HDR+ effect in camera is just THAT good.
Even records raw so I can edit later, but these are straight out of camera. Have some great shots even in lower indoor light from the trip, but they are of family members I'd rather not post on the internet. Even compared to my "real" pro camera, if used properly this is capable of some excellent shots.