I own a shield pro 2017.
I changed the SSHD with a Samsung EVO 860 SSD (lowlevel cloned from SSHD) some weeks ago.
Did nothing else. No rooting or bootloader opening or whatsoever
The shield was fast as hell before updating to 7.2.
Now it has MASSIVE problems with access to the internal drive.
It takes nearly half an hour to install an app.
In system settings, the internal storage is shown, but going to see the details it takes a very long time , also.
On the other hand, apps will start and play music and video files from the internal storage.
I have a lot of mp3 and aac music files on the storage.
It looks like a Process i do not know is running on the internal storage and taking the performance.
I stopped plex and emby server (had both on it to test which one is better for me) but no changes.
What can I do to get the performance back ??
I have no clue atm.
And what would happen if I put the Original SSHD back into the device ? It has 7.1 on it.
Well - I do not know which step is best to resume the issue.
Waiting, complete reset or something else ?
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. I HAVE A NVIDIA SHIELD 16GB RUNNING 7.2 ANDROID.
I BOUGHT A Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E500B/AM) TO BE USED AS ADDITIONAL STORAGE TO RUN MY PLEX SERVER. I HAVE MY MEDIA FILES IN MY SYNOLOGY MOUNTED AS NETWORK STORAGE BUT WANTED THE PLEX TO HANDLE ALL TRANSCODING LOCALLY.
1)
I SET THE SSD AS A DEVICE STORAGE.
SHIELD FORMATS IT WITH NO PROBLEM AS ADOPTED INTERNAL STORAGE AND ENCRYPTS IT BUT AFTER A WHILE THE SHIELD BECOMES EXTREMELY SLOW IN RESPONSE. USING THE REMOTE TO BROWSE THROUGH THE MENU AND SELECTING APPS IS EXTREMELY SLOW.
2)
I RESTORED THE SSD TO FROM DEVICE STORAGE TO EXTERNAL STORAGE AND AFTER A WHILE THE SAME BEHAVIOR DESCRIBED ABOVE ON 1) HAPPENS.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SSD THOUGH. IF I FORMAT ON A PC IT WORKD JUST FINE, NO FLAWS. I INSTALLED THE MAGIC SOFTWARE FROM SAMSUNG IN THE PC AND TESTED THE BENCHMARKS AND IT IS JUST FINE.
I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM AS WELL.
ANY CLUES ? ANY HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
THANKS IN ADVANCE
bylderup said:
I own a shield pro 2017.
I changed the SSHD with a Samsung EVO 860 SSD (lowlevel cloned from SSHD) some weeks ago.
Did nothing else. No rooting or bootloader opening or whatsoever
The shield was fast as hell before updating to 7.2.
Now it has MASSIVE problems with access to the internal drive.
It takes nearly half an hour to install an app.
In system settings, the internal storage is shown, but going to see the details it takes a very long time , also.
On the other hand, apps will start and play music and video files from the internal storage.
I have a lot of mp3 and aac music files on the storage.
It looks like a Process i do not know is running on the internal storage and taking the performance.
I stopped plex and emby server (had both on it to test which one is better for me) but no changes.
What can I do to get the performance back ??
I have no clue atm.
And what would happen if I put the Original SSHD back into the device ? It has 7.1 on it.
Well - I do not know which step is best to resume the issue.
Waiting, complete reset or something else ?
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Most recent update is to blame I am sure, mine won't even startup now, was acting funny. I never did the SSD swap but I think I may to get it back up. I think the update is to blame for many problems.
Anyone have any luck yet? It's the 2015 Pro BTW. Just flashes green every time I touch the power on for one second but does nothing. I can hear the HDD spinning inside and it's not making any weird clicks or noises like a dying hard drive would??? Lost!!!
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This sucks. I got a 16 GB model some time ago expecting marshmallow and a good microSD card to be the ticket. I have a Sandisk Ultra 128 Gb class 10 card which is well regarded for speed and reliability. I FINALLY got Marshmallow recently and went through the process of getting my card reformatted for adaptive storage. I was surprised during the process that the phone gave me a warning that the card was slow and I may experience problems, but I pressed on.
Everything seemed to work fine after the 'conversion' and the phone seemed snappy enough. Though I hadn't yet installed any new programs in the new configuration. I merely backed up photos and audio media that was being stored on the card, and then restored them to their proper location after the reformat to integrate the card with internal storage.
I then installed some apps I had removed to make space on internal storage previously. Now the phone is totally unusable. I get about 1-3 minutes of usage after boot before it hangs up on a screen, or with the notification shade pulled down. The phone just totaly freezes; I can't even power it down (need to look up how to force it to shut down).
What have I gotten myself into? Why would that card be considered 'slow and/or inadequate' when I purchased it less than 6 months ago and it is rated a good and fast card?
Any suggestions on how to proceed? I need and counted on the combined storage capability (or I never would have gone or the 16 Gb model).
Thanks for any help.
oh, and random reboots and also the screen going blank but the phone not actually being off (battery died really fast) overnight. I'm trying to get into the bootloader and do traditional things like clearing dalvik cache (is that current? I haven't done much rooting and messing around with the guts of Andriod since Kit Kat), etc.
I had to revert too. Limited TWRP support, very slow apps, couldn't connect via USB to the SD storage. I bought the 16GB thinking the same thing. Was a mistake as of now.
Besides not being able to do anything with the card in TWRP, I'm having no problems using adaptive storage, and I too use a 128GB SanDisk Ultra.
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I'm not worried about TWRP. I'm actually content with the phone non-rooted if adaptive storage works, since it's not carrier locked and I can do things that previously Verizon wouldn't let me. I'm not interested in mucking around with new ROM's and stuff anymore; too busy with other tinkering projects and i have plenty of other viable devices to do that with (amazon phone and tablet, older android phones, etc.). I want this one to be a stock daily driver; but I want it to f'ing work as indicated.
I just got done doing a factory reset, formatting the SD card as internal and restoring (system tool; is that a Moto thing or Lollipop+?). We'll see how it goes. I may just have mucked it up trying to convert to adaptive storage after having used it with Lollipop AND even moving some apps to the SD card.
I just received my Shield TV today. 16GB model should that make a difference.
Things I've done: Updated firmware, formatted MicroSD as internal storage, installed kodi and got it fully running, installed a few other apps, sideloaded amazon video. Overall, a pretty good day. Until I decided to move over a few isos for PPSSPP via thumb drive.
Using ES File Explorer I attempted a simple copying to the internal drive. Multiple times at random points I get a message saying that the copy has failed, and a retry button. Did that a handful of times thinking eventually it'd pan out and that maybe something like daydream kicking in was causing the file transfer to stop momentarily and throw the fail code.
Then the Shield TV crashed and rebooted. That resulted in some interesting problems. Some of the apps I have installed were still there, some vanished as if they were never there. The Shield could no longer read my usb drive, yet everything showed up fine when I plugged it into my laptop. Daydream was crashing anytime it was called on.
So, I rebooted it again. All the apps showed back up and after a few minutes of settling it showed the MicroSD as being part of internal storage as opposed to its own entity.
Question is, what could have caused this? And, more importantly, how can I prevent it from happening again?
I just got a 2017 Shield TV Pro. After first setting it up, everything was running very smooth and responsive. I then set up Hyperspin (an emulator front end) with a bunch of artwork, game preview videos, and roms. The entire folder is about 50 GB of data. At first, I had it on a USB 3.0 external HD connected to the Shield, and things were fine - still smooth and responsive. Then I moved the data to the Shield's internal 500 GB HD, and after doing that, the whole Shield slows to a crawl. This happens everywhere, not just when running the Hyperspin program - it happens in other apps, on the main menu, in the settings menu, etc. Also, I noticed that when using ES File Explorer to copy data between the hard drives, speeds were very quick prior to moving the 50 GB Hyperspin folder onto the internal HD, but then slowed to a crawl after the 50 GB folder was stored on the internal HD.
I tried multiple reboots, with the external HD both disconnected and connected, and the problem persisted. Then I did a full factory reset. After the full factory reset, the same thing happened - everything was smooth and responsive at first, even when Hyperspin was loaded onto my external HD, but then slowed to a crawl when moving the 50 GB Hyperspin folder on the internal HD.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? I'm wondering if the internal HD in the Shield is defective, and if it only causes problems once the HD is loaded with data. Is this a possibility? Are there any other possible causes that I'm missing? Thanks!
In case anyone else stumbles upon this thread with the same problem, the following fixed the issue for me. This is from a post at https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-google-recommendations-and-pro-slowdown-/7/:
Consequently, if you are still having problems with your new Pro unit, please go into "Settings" and try this:
1. Choose "When to daydream" to "After 1 hour of inactivity"
2. Choose "When to sleep" to "Never"
I also have "Developer options" turned on. I went into "Apps" and:
1. Don't keep activities to "On"
2. Background process limit to "-1" or "Standard limit"
After you change the Dream settings, leave it alone for 1 hour, then reboot it 2 or 3 times and leave it alone for about 5-10 minutes. After this, you should see it improve and speed up dramatically. After it improves, you can change the settings in "Daydream" back to how they were originally.
By the way, my new Pro unit is still working nice and fast.
Good luck to all!
-- Manny
This is what Chrisg229 shared with me in his last private message:
"Manny, I have to say your suggestions worked exactly as you described. No more pixelation or slowdown and even Google music is now rockin!
Thanks again for all your help. I will certainly pass your great advice along to anyone else I notice struggling with their Pro."
Hey can anyone help me with a fix? I have struggled with limited space on my Nvidia Shield 16gb. So i have usb 3.0 drive to expand storage and to use as internal storage. However Kodi has performance issues and lag if i am using my usb external for storage expansion. Sorry if this has been answered already. Can someone point me in the right direction....is this a simple fix? haven't been on XDA in a few yrs.
Thanks in advance.
Tsoflyyup said:
Hey can anyone help me with a fix? I have struggled with limited space on my Nvidia Shield 16gb. So i have usb 3.0 drive to expand storage and to use as internal storage. However Kodi has performance issues and lag if i am using my usb external for storage expansion. Sorry if this has been answered already. Can someone point me in the right direction....is this a simple fix? haven't been on XDA in a few yrs.
Thanks in advance.
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If you are talking about a usb flash drive yes it will be slow a better option is using a usb attached hard disk drive
I think it will also depend on which drive you have. Here are some recommended USB flash drives.
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4334
Yeah i used one of the recommended usb flash drive..the lexar one. I noticed that the overall performance is sluggish. Not only does Kodi lag... navigation around the menus stalls periodically. More freezes (wait/force close) messages.
For now i just move all my data back to internal until i can find a solution
Tsoflyyup said:
Yeah i used one of the recommended usb flash drive..the lexar one. I noticed that the overall performance is sluggish. Not only does Kodi lag... navigation around the menus stalls periodically. More freezes (wait/force close) messages.
For now i just move all my data back to internal until i can find a solution
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Did you ever find a solution? I just bought a Shield and am experiencing the same thing.
I had the same problem with nvidia and kodi until I bought one
SANDISK EXTREME PRO USB 3.1 SOLID STATE FLASH DRIVE 256gb so far all good I do not see performance delay in kodi nor in the system I have already 3 months using as storage compatibility and everything is still okay so far greetings
I have always had similar lag issues using external mechanical hdd. Usually I just use old laptop hard drives in an enclosure. An odd thing that has also happened is that Kodi has over time (takes about a year) killed my hdd to the point that a PC won't even low level reformat it. I am on my second drive now and after about a year, it is starting to fail as well.
One thing that is very noticeable, and possibly the culprit, is the amount of drive activity going on when Kodi is just sitting idle on the home menu. This is also the main reason I haven't tried an ssd, because if these are write cycles and not just read cycles, I'm pretty sure it will trash an ssd.
I have read in other threads that people using much nicer drives than I am are having the same issue of an eventually dead hdd/ssd. I have a feeling this will also apply to flash sticks as well, so I'd warn to not toss too nice of a drive on there!
Hello,
I just purchased a 64gb micro sd (samsung evo plus) card and inserted it into A1; formatted it as permanent storage, and now it shows as 128gb with half space used with system files. Tried reformatting on the laptop and doing it again in the phone, same result. As far as i can tell, it still works (still 64gb free), but it is annoying as it shows system is using half, so you dont have the real numbers.
I tried googling, found similar problems (a year ago), but no follow up how/if this is resolved. Im running latest 8.1 (november patch).
Any help / ideas?
thanks,
Jaka
After formatting you need to select an SD card as an external memory and then you will have a real state
All of this is done in the seting> memory setting
permanent storage is an extension of internal storage so all correct.
Thanks for clarifying. What is the difference between permanent/removable storage in terms of what the phone can store on it? My phone is full and need the extra space for pictures, cache (streaming apps burn a lot) and, if the card is good enough, apps.
thanks guys, always appreciate the support here on XDA!
jaka
jsuln said:
Thanks for clarifying. What is the difference between permanent/removable storage in terms of what the phone can store on it? My phone is full and need the extra space for pictures, cache (streaming apps burn a lot) and, if the card is good enough, apps.
thanks guys, always appreciate the support here on XDA!
jaka
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I don't' like an SD as an extension of internal memory, it becomes non removable and if it gets corrupted can cause serious problems with apps crashing. It also needs to be as fast as possible.
I would rather have it set as external/removable, you can still store all your media (music photo video etc) on it but it remains removable and the system does not reply on it.
Hey guys, a bit of an update.. Today a got a notification that i am running out of space, a few days after I have inserted a fresh 64 gig card (first post), but now take a look at these screenshots .. In a few days, my whole storage shows as 100% full, just with system files .. ?
I also do not see this extra space in root explorer (where can I?)
Can someone help with this issue? What is going on here?
Cheers,
Jaka