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So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
greycobalt said:
So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
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Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
mirror3d said:
Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
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As far as I know, location is always turned on (meaning I never turn it off myself). One of the first things I did was turn off all the smart crap, and turn off every piece of bloatware I could in the settings (I'm not rooted).
When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
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When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
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I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
greycobalt said:
I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
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This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
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This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
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That's not good. :-/
I install apps often, but I just as often uninstall them...I guess that's not much help. If it was one of them though, wouldn't it show up under the battery log?
It's approaching a year old, I got it last November I believe.
Yes, I keep my Wifi and data on all the time.
Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
ShadowLea said:
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
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Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
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And neither is mine. Wakelock detector still works in the tab that shows Deep Sleep vs Awake. As I said by 'Everything else requires root, but that still works'.
Cundis said:
Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
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That varies. At home, I have great signal (full-signal 4G, router is never more than 20 feet away). Some places in town, I can drop to 3G, especially my grandparents (although my grandma does have a router I'm connected to). There's a weird (unrelated?) bug where if I drop to 3G, I either have to turn airplane mode on or wait several hours until it reverts back to 4G, even though I'll be back in a verified 4G area.
ShadowLea said:
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
greycobalt said:
I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
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Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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ShadowLea said:
Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
greycobalt said:
It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
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That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
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That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
greycobalt said:
By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
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I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
With that and Paypal dealt with, battery life should improve significantly.
ShadowLea said:
I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
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Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
greycobalt said:
Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
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Happy to help Let's hope that solves it! Also don't forget to greenify Paypal (Or uninstall it if you don't need it), as that seems to be the main culprit.
Are you guys disabling this using Package Disabler? Just curious if it can improve battery in any way?
I disabled it and got almost 7 hours of sot my first day.
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Mu5ic92 said:
Are you guys disabling this using Package Disabler? Just curious if it can improve battery in any way?
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You can disable it, but certain core functions may not work. Samsung Pay for example.
NotATreoFan said:
You can disable it, but certain core functions may not work. Samsung Pay for example.
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I can confirm that Samsung pay works with it disabled. From what I understand, this has something to do with push notifications for Samsung apps. I'm not sure exactly which apps, or what functions break if this is disabled (I don't use many Samsung apps), but pay does work. Push Services was a known battery killer on the s6, so I disabled it on my s7 as well. No ill effects yet.
Akw6190 said:
I can confirm that Samsung pay works with it disabled. From what I understand, this has something to do with push notifications for Samsung apps. I'm not sure exactly which apps, or what functions break if this is disabled (I don't use many Samsung apps), but pay does work. Push Services was a known battery killer on the s6, so I disabled it on my s7 as well. No ill effects yet.
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Would you mind sharing what you disabled in total? I've shut down a nice long list of apps, but only got a marginal bump in battery. Of course it doesn't help that the radio shipping with the S7 Edge is worse than the recent Note 5 updates. Back to relying on WiFi Calling at the office again. Plus WiFi doesn't automatically reconnect if I walk out of range and back in, it waits for me to turn the screen on.
I left mine on and still get 7-7hr 30 mins of SOT
NotATreoFan said:
Would you mind sharing what you disabled in total? I've shut down a nice long list of apps, but only got a marginal bump in battery. Of course it doesn't help that the radio shipping with the S7 Edge is worse than the recent Note 5 updates. Back to relying on WiFi Calling at the office again. Plus WiFi doesn't automatically reconnect if I walk out of range and back in, it waits for me to turn the screen on.
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This is my list, which did not give me the bump in battery life I was hoping for either. I'm also seeing the same wifi and radio issues as well
Is this a separate app to disable them all?
NVM I bought and took out some annoying apps its a nice sweet app!
Akw6190 said:
This is my list, which did not give me the bump in battery life I was hoping for either. I'm also seeing the same wifi and radio issues as well
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Thanks for the list.
I'm hoping the other issues get ironed out with the March or April updates that should be coming within 4-6 weeks. On the up side however, WiFi Calling connects instantly on this phone and I've yet to get double/triple/quadruple messages arriving.
NotATreoFan said:
Thanks for the list.
I'm hoping the other issues get ironed out with the March or April updates that should be coming within 4-6 weeks. On the up side however, WiFi Calling connects instantly on this phone and I've yet to get double/triple/quadruple messages arriving.
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Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
Akw6190 said:
Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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Absolutely! Samsung caught a lot of crap over the years (their own fault with early TouchWiz), but a complete 180 has occurred and I'm more than content to use their phones for a long time coming.
Akw6190 said:
Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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How did you disable bluetooth and wifi scanning? Dont see any option for that.
NotATreoFan said:
Absolutely! Samsung caught a lot of crap over the years (their own fault with early TouchWiz), but a complete 180 has occurred and I'm more than content to use their phones for a long time coming.
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Agreed. I find that Samsung phones generally have the best hardware available, even if the software is slightly lacking, which I find is the case much less nowadays. But since the hardware is boss, the phone is worth a buy since most software issues can be addressed and fixed with custom ROMs. Best of both worlds IMO.
Mu5ic92 said:
How did you disable bluetooth and wifi scanning? Dont see any option for that.
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They're in the settings under Privacy and Safety>Location>Improve Accuracy
Has there been any progress on dealing with the massive battery drain caused by combo of Google Play Music & Adblockers?
I have tried reverting back to an older version of GPM and that solved it, but it is nearly impossible to keep it from updating (even detaching market entry using TiBu only stops it for about a day). I ran a logcat of AdAway and started whitelisting Google ad servers, but the battery drain persisted and I now had ads.
Care to explain better? I also use GPM & Adblocker and I was having an unusual drain for about a week.
Since I mess with a lot of things, I reflashed everything today (I had 7.1.1 - march update) and now I'm using 7.1.2 N2G47O with Magisk with its Unified Hosts Adblock module and I'll be able to tell if I still have some drain in the next few days
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Care to explain better? I also use GPM & Adblocker and I was having an unusual drain for about a week.
Since I mess with a lot of things, I reflashed everything today (I had 7.1.1 - march update) and now I'm using 7.1.2 N2G47O with Magisk with its Unified Hosts Adblock module and I'll be able to tell if I still have some drain in the next few days
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The problem seems to be that a few months ago when GPM was updated, it also increased the pinging of ad servers, for whatever reason. Even if you pay for GPM (I do), the ad servers still get pinged. The issue becomes that most of the adblockers simply alter the host file and denies the loading of the ad. Well, this causes the constant re-pinging of that server to load the ad. When you are streaming music through GPM, it is continuously trying to load those ads, massively draining the battery. I'll get about 1.5 hours out of a charge with this issue.
The same problem, it is probably necessary to put some exceptions for the adblocker, that everything would work correctly
Same problem. Tried whitelisting with no luck.
Adaway and with Magisk unified Adblock. Both are the same with major battery drain.
I don't use ad blocking anymore...
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The problem seems to be that a few months ago when GPM was updated, it also increased the pinging of ad servers, for whatever reason. Even if you pay for GPM (I do), the ad servers still get pinged. The issue becomes that most of the adblockers simply alter the host file and denies the loading of the ad. Well, this causes the constant re-pinging of that server to load the ad. When you are streaming music through GPM, it is continuously trying to load those ads, massively draining the battery. I'll get about 1.5 hours out of a charge with this issue.
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That sounds very aggressive - you may have the battery failure that almost all N6p's have (including me). I just disabled my adblocker and I'll see the behavior, but I believe my phone is about to die.
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That sounds very aggressive - you may have the battery failure that almost all N6p's have (including me). I just disabled my adblocker and I'll see the behavior, but I believe my phone is about to die.
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Luckily I don't. It was night/day difference with Adaway on/off out the old GPM app. I just use a external battery pack I bought for my honeymoon in my gym bag.
This is solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/adaway-results-googletagmanager-t3537046
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This is solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/adaway-results-googletagmanager-t3537046
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The problem with the whitelisting solution is that it causes numerous ads to be allowed, essentially taking away the benefit of AdAway.
Choose the lesser of evils
So glad I finally found this thread. Thank you! I had a heck of a time figuring this out, destroying my battery. I'm using AdHell on an S8 and apparently blocking the ads on play music was doing the same for me - causing the app to churn and eat something like a couple % per hour. With AdHell I just unblocked google play music and play services (just for good measure, don't know if this is necessary) and things seem right again.
I recently had my battery replaced and for a couple of days ran it without an adblocker and totally stock. I always used to root and mess around with the phone but I liked beta Oreo 8.1 so much that I thought I'd try adaway and leave the phone unrooted. Anyway, terrible battery life at work Monday and today. I noticed drain waas high for adaway and that the phone wasn't sleeping. Uninstalled adaway and now a couple hours later, the phone is not draining and has slept with a flatline battery chart.
So, was a solution to this problem ever found? Every time I want to listen to music I have to manually disable adaway... very annoying.
Had the same problem. Battery drained about 30% after 1:30h listening to music. I'll whitelist those apps to see if that would make the difference
I've been using NordVPN on all my devices, but have always had an issue with it staying on on my OP6T, especially now that I'm running 9.0.13. I'll establish a connection and let it run in the background. However, after about 2-5 minutes, it seems to automatically disconnect. I've ensured that it's not being battery optimized, I don't have any hibernation apps running, and I'm on stock kernel. I'm rooted with magisk and running sysconfig module, but didn't know if it's supposed to affect VPN apps. Would it be better to run it through a third party VPN app? And if so, is this an issue with OOS or NordVPN's app? Normally, I'd suspect the app, but I've had issues with WearOS on OOS as well, so that's why I'm asking. I like being able to use their CyberSec feature and I didn't think it was available through third party apps. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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This is caused because OOS is killing the VPN app. It happened to me too with a lot of apps. Maybe with some kernel tweaks or "systemizing" the apps or other tweaks you will minimize the chance to an app to be killed by OOS, but have in mind that soon or later OOS will kill your app. No matter if it's a health app, music player app or anything else. OOS will kill them even if you are using only 3GB of RAM.
For the VPN app, check if NordVPN has config info to allow you setup manually any VPN profile using IPSec XAuth or L2TP/IPSec , and set it to VPN always connected. I know this is a pain because you'll have to manually enter every config for every server you use with your VPN provider. Anyway, from time to time you will notice your connection isn't working and will be because OOS will kill even his own connection.
Welcome to the OnePlus don't kill my app club!
ducted said:
Hello!
This is caused because OOS is killing the VPN app. It happened to me too with a lot of apps. Maybe with some kernel tweaks or "systemizing" the apps or other tweaks you will minimize the chance to an app to be killed by OOS, but have in mind that soon or later OOS will kill your app. No matter if it's a health app, music player app or anything else. OOS will kill them even if you are using only 3GB of RAM.
For the VPN app, check if NordVPN has config info to allow you setup manually any VPN profile using IPSec XAuth or L2TP/IPSec , and set it to VPN always connected. I know this is a pain because you'll have to manually enter every config for every server you use with your VPN provider. Anyway, from time to time you will notice your connection isn't working and will be because OOS will kill even his own connection.
Welcome to the OnePlus don't kill my app club!
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I guess that makes sense. When I was running pixel experience ROM, it seems to not have any of those issues. I just wanted the most polished experience and I figured OOS was always that. But I have noticed that a lot of Chinese oems tends to have pretty aggressive hibernation settings and it isn't far fetched. I just never had this issue on my OP3 back in the day and I loved OOS. But then again, I was running AOSPA a lot too and maybe that's why I didn't have this happen a lot. That kinda blows... I'm typically all about using custom roms, but with the fingerprint scanner on this one, while it is usable on other roms, I still feel like it isn't fully polished. But I'd rather no apps being killed then a perfect fingerprint scanner. I just really like the native call recording and gestures that oneplus offers natively, and I know you can do these things I'm custom roms, I just feel like it isn't executed quite as gracefully lol!
Thanks for the input! It really means a lot!
I run a VPN on my router, and connect my phone to it when I'm out and about town, or at work when I want to connect to my security cameras. I've found after a couple hours the VPN connection is dropped. I'm just using the standard VPN in the phone settings, not a special app. I've never trouble-shot the problem because it's not a big deal for me, but in this case there's no app holding it alive, just a basic phone setting.
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I run a VPN on my router, and connect my phone to it when I'm out and about town, or at work when I want to connect to my security cameras. I've found after a couple hours the VPN connection is dropped. I'm just using the standard VPN in the phone settings, not a special app. I've never trouble-shot the problem because it's not a big deal for me, but in this case there's no app holding it alive, just a basic phone setting.
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Yeah I gotcha... I switched to OmniROM because I figured their background task management tends to be a lot better, and it is. Been running my VPN for several hours now, and I haven't had a single issue!
Observation: just now I connected VPN using standard settings feature. Was working fine. Two minutes later a call came in and I took it. After the call was over I noticed VPN was disconnected. Clearly the switch to the call caused the disconnection. Note I never set up VOLTE. I don't use the phone much...
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That got fixed.
I have the same problem with OP8 Pro, don't get any OnePlus phones if you need VPN.
awdrifter said:
I have the same problem with OP8 Pro, don't get any OnePlus phones if you need VPN.
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That because of battery optimization. If you have problem VPN disconnect of 2mins, try to set battery optimization to "don't optimize".
No, the disconnect is somewhat random. Sometimes it disconnects in a few minutes even when I'm actively using the phone. Sometimes it disconnects after about an hour, or it could be somewhere in between. I have a Samsung S8+ before, that phone has no such issue. The OnePlus phone is killing my VPN app even if I locked the app. I suspect OnePlus left some anti-VPN code that's meant for the Chinese ROM Hydrogen OS on the global ROM Oxygen OS.
I'm using Vpn to access to YouTube Music and I never have any problem.
Note: if Vpn disconnect youtube music will instantly stop.
I'm faced that problem before with Turbo VPN the connection never pass 5 mins due to battery optimization so I turn off battery optimization for specific vpn app. After that the problem never occur anymore.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
When it happens check running apps and cache apps to see it you can spot what's doing it.
With Samsung's old version of Device Care I was able to find a corrupted Android Setup like this. Saved me a factory reset.
Developer options running services/cache apps is less helpful though than the former but may work.
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Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
When it happens check running apps and cache apps to see it you can spot what's doing it.
With Samsung's old version of Device Care I was able to find a corrupted Android Setup like this. Saved me a factory reset.
Developer options running services/cache apps is less helpful though than the former but may work.
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I checked the Developer options> standby apps, my VPN app is set as "frequent", should I change it to "active"? Thanks.
Seems like some apps can be set to "Exempted", but that's not an option for my VPN app. My phone is fully rooted, is there anything I can edit to force it to be "Exempted"? Even WeChat was set to "Exempted", that's definitely not a system app.
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I checked the Developer options> standby apps, my VPN app is set as "frequent", should I change it to "active"? Thanks.
Seems like some apps can be set to "Exempted", but that's not an option for my VPN app. My phone is fully rooted, is there anything I can edit to force it to be "Exempted"? Even WeChat was set to "Exempted", that's definitely not a system app.
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I don't have the "exempted" option on my stock Note 10+. Not sure.
However the fact that you can set the bucket states in standby apps means the power management is active.
It causes nothing but trouble.
I stopped using it over a year ago and dealt with problem apps directly. Power management was contributing to excessive battery consumption as well as causing erratic behaviors.
Forget all those elegant techno explanations of how the bucket states blah, blah, blah... it screws the phone up proper
Android does quit well without it... just more useless bloatware.
Not surprising... Google will ruin anything if they screw with it long enough.
It's their nature
So I set the Battery Optimization to "Don't Optimize", my VPN app is now "Exempted" in standby apps. But it still got killed by the phone. The ROM definitely have some kind of anti-VPN code.
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So I set the Battery Optimization to "Don't Optimize", my VPN app is now "Exempted" in standby apps. But it still got killed by the phone. The ROM definitely have some kind of anti-VPN code.
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What VPN app are you using??
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So I set the Battery Optimization to "Don't Optimize", my VPN app is now "Exempted" in standby apps. But it still got killed by the phone. The ROM definitely have some kind of anti-VPN code.
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You need to disable all power management.
That's the problem, I can guarantee you.
When it's fully disabled all buckets will show as active and you won't be able to reset their states.
If you* reset a bucket state then navigate out of Developer options then reenter Standby app again the reset bucket will show as active ie it was unsuccessful.
The reason you can alter the bucket states is a software power management apk is running in the background. Find it and disable it.
It's probably the phone manufacturer apk but it could well be a Google apk (Samsung, in my case, likes to supercede Android/Google apks with their own).
Lol, I played with this a lot about a year ago...
The fact that I remember it so well tells you how much time it wasted and the aggravation it caused It's junk.
Just for giggles the worst power hog on my phone is Google Play Services. Disabling it solved many issues; I enabled as needed for Gmail, Gmaps and Playstore.
*edit, sorry for the missing "you".
SOK seila said:
What VPN app are you using??
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Tunnel Bear
ZTE (another Chinese device) also does the same. It's frustrating as hell. My subscription to Adguard and VPNs suffer the same fate where it turns off.
I know China dislikes VPNs, but this is nuts.
blackhawk said:
You need to disable all power management.
That's the problem, I can guarantee you.
When it's fully disabled all buckets will show as active and you won't be able to reset their states.
If you* reset a bucket state then navigate out of Developer options then reenter Standby app again the reset bucket will show as active ie it was unsuccessful.
The reason you can alter the bucket states is a software power management apk is running in the background. Find it and disable it.
It's probably the phone manufacturer apk but it could well be a Google apk (Samsung, in my case, likes to supercede Android/Google apks with their own).
Lol, I played with this a lot about a year ago...
The fact that I remember it so well tells you how much time it wasted and the aggravation it caused It's junk.
Just for giggles the worst power hog on my phone is Google Play Services. Disabling it solved many issues; I enabled as needed for Gmail, Gmaps and Playstore.
*edit, sorry for the missing "you".
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How do I force disable "buckets"?
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
Not here...
Full charge at 9:00pm and by 6:00am I only see 3% drop, I don't call it a drain
(no root, latest Android Q update, location on, cell data on, bluetooth and NFC off)
Yes there is definitely higher drain on Android 10 overall.
Currently I am on AOSiP10 and getting 3-4% idle drain and about 2-3 SOT less than on AICP Pie. My friend on Stock 10 @ZeroInfinity has noticed a higher drain than Pie as well.
I'm in the process of figuring out what is causing the higher drain.
comp101inc said:
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
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No mine is about the same as with Pie (I haven't noticed any difference ... apart from once when I ran it right down I only got about 8hrs of sot (screen on time whereas on pie I'd get about 9 but it wasn't scientific not sure if I had the exact same settings).
Is an app showing high battery usage (Also use hamburger menu to show full system usage which incl standby)(might even be worth also looking at memory usage for each app under developer settings, if nothing stands out under battery for some reason). If very high usage suddenly maybe an app conflict with latest update. Or possibly even a crypto miner or some other malware. You can also check battery usage when booted into safe mode so no third party apps run.
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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Custom is always better than stock on this phone.
Wait for the AOSP ROMs to arrive and you will be able to easily get double that SOT time!
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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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I did notice somewhat higher drain on A10, but not too much to worry about. My SOT on a single charge is usually about 5+ hours. Full stock, rooted. I am using WiFi Automatic to disable WiFi when the phone is inactive, so that might be helping, not sure how much...
On AOSiP10 there is no wild battery drain.
My device sleeps like a baby.
My advice? Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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something must be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
Also, my phone was ported from Sprint to T-Mobile and I've only recently got a better grip on changing tower conditions with this APN guide from T-Mobile. I had redundant APNs that may have been slowing connection to changing conditions while in motion or changing towers. Support wasn't much help anytime I called. Vacationing in a rural area with limited and slow data had me looking for a better solution. Even better than before coming back home and surfing internet in a passenger car on the freeway. Deleting the redundant ones was key, I believe.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
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samep said:
What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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I haven't tried WiFi disabling in years (Juice Defender and profile apps) but I do limit apps' access to Internet with Adguard (unlocked licensed version).
I'll give the WiFi Automatic app a try and see how that goes. I have little use for WiFi outside of those saved networks that auto connect.
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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IronRoo said:
something muscat be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & then go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
PS. You can boot to the recovery and wipe the whole cache partition from there
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & thin go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
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clearing data is the last method for me. if it is possible, i would not do it.
actually, the Google play services don't play to much, the battery just drain when the screen is on. however, i have tried to clear the cache of google play service before, it doesn't help.
there is an update today, just see whether it would improve it or not. would it be the issue of the battery indicator?