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Ill make this plain and simple, im having really high display percentage on my N1 and i cant figure it out. As u can see the picture below, the display % is at a 81%!!! and here is the thing, i have only 4 widgets running. At the time that i took the pic i had the brightness at 30% but even if i have it at 0% display % will always be around 60-75%.
This is what i have on my N1:
Rom: cyanogen 506
Kernel: persiansown uv-oc
So this being said, this display problem is affecting my battery. i get an average of 12-16 hrs which its pretty good, i think but i used to get 32-36 hrs. Can anyone know what could be the problem? Cuz im totally stumped
do you keep your screen on for long periods of time?
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do you keep your screen on for long periods of time?
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oh no, i turn it off when i dont use it. i have the screen timed out at 2min, 1 min, 30sec, ect.. and still get same results.
correct me if im wrong, but i think the battery status (usage) is staggered. Meaning itll post every thing that uses the battery and will display in percentages and will total to =/- 100%.
So if the rest of the phone is only using 19% then your screen would then display around 80%. Lets say the rest of the phone is using 50%, then your battery would then display around 50% of battery use. But its still using the same power consumption with the two instances.
again, correct me if im wrong, i briefly remember reading that somewhere. Cause i guess someone had been using the phone with 50% brightness and when he decided to put it at about 10% he actually increased 2% on his display usuage. hahaahha!
correct me if im wrong, but i think the battery status (usage) is staggered. Meaning itll post every thing that uses the battery and will display in percentages and will total to =/- 100%.
So if the rest of the phone is only using 19% then your screen would then display around 80%. Lets say the rest of the phone is using 50%, then your battery would then display around 50% of battery use. But its still using the same power consumption with the two instances.
again, correct me if im wrong, i briefly remember reading that somewhere. Cause i guess someone had been using the phone with 50% brightness and when he decided to put it at about 10% he actually increased 2% on his display usuage. hahaahha!
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I hear what ur saying, so theres no way around it.
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On Desire ROMs it's only 17%.. or sometimes lower. I don't really care though.. Lol.
It is all relative, always adding up to 100%. If you're phone/wifi/3g/cell percentage is really low, then the display will be really high. The higher the display is shows how good the rest of the system is at conserving power. The display is the largest battery drain on the system. If something else was higher, or even close to the display use after you've used the display for a while I'd be scared something was wrong.
Let's say you charge your phone, never turn on the display, and leave it sitting for 5 hours. Then check percentage. Cell idle, Android OS, and things like that will be the largest, totalling 100% battery use. But your battery may only be down 10%. Then use it for an hour with the display on, display will suddenly jump up to 80% and everything else down to 20%.
Or in other words. Let's say you have used 20% of the battery (battery level is down to 80%) On the battery usage screen display takes up 90% of that, and the rest of the system 10%. That means out of the 20% you used of the battery, 18% was used by the display, and 2% by everything else.
People think Cyanogenmod is bad because the display is so high compared to other mods, but it means that the rest of the system in cyanogenmod is actually more power efficient than the others. So display will naturally be higher relative to everything else.
I believe this is a known issue with 2.1
so i guess in a way its saving power,right? since it is not didtributing power all over the place.
i think its because of the Screen AMOLED is probably a battery eater, i think its fixed and its called Super AMOLED
Whenever I check my battery status, my display is always at 45%. Is this normal? I still get good battery life, I think. For example, I been unplugged for 6h and 18m and I'm just at 70% battery remaining.
I don't know what to tell you; if you aren't doing a lot of CPU intensive tasks, the battery should bbe good for hours.
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Whenever I check my battery status, my display is always at 45%. Is this normal? I still get good battery life, I think. For example, I been unplugged for 6h and 18m and I'm just at 70% battery remaining.
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that's kinda strange, not cuz you are always stuck but because you are showing 45%. I thought the atrix only measures by 10s.
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that's kinda strange, not cuz you are always stuck but because you are showing 45%. I thought the atrix only measures by 10s.
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That is exactly what I was thinking. I've never seen anything but increments of 10%.
No....I'm not talking about my battery percentage, I'm talking about my display percentage. Its always the higher of the four...wifi, phone idle and cell standby is always low, like in the single digits low. But the display is always high. Like for example I woke up this morning, checked what was consuming battery and the display was at 65%. If the phone was sleep for the past 4-5 hours thus the display not being on, the display shouldn't be consuming that much battery, so I thought.
I still get great battery life. Im just wondering if anyone else display is also consuming a lot battery and what could be causing it.
A-A-A-Atrix!
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No....I'm not talking about my battery percentage, I'm talking about my display percentage. Its always the higher of the four...wifi, phone idle and cell standby is always low, like in the single digits low. But the display is always high. Like for example I woke up this morning, checked what was consuming battery and the display was at 65%. If the phone was sleep for the past 4-5 hours thus the display not being on, the display shouldn't be consuming that much battery, so I thought.
I still get great battery life. Im just wondering if anyone else display is also consuming a lot battery and what could be causing it.
A-A-A-Atrix!
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Ahhh, ok. I get what you mean now. This is normal for most Android phones with large (4" or bigger), bright screens. As long as you are getting good battery life you are fine. I'm assuming you keep your brightness set to automatic?
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No....I'm not talking about my battery percentage, I'm talking about my display percentage. Its always the higher of the four...wifi, phone idle and cell standby is always low, like in the single digits low. But the display is always high. Like for example I woke up this morning, checked what was consuming battery and the display was at 65%. If the phone was sleep for the past 4-5 hours thus the display not being on, the display shouldn't be consuming that much battery, so I thought.
I still get great battery life. Im just wondering if anyone else display is also consuming a lot battery and what could be causing it.
A-A-A-Atrix!
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Considering you are getting good battery life and your display has that high of a percentage after "sleeping" that long is a good thing. That just means the other processes are running efficiently. You should always expect the Display to take up at least 60% of your battery, especially after a full cycle. What really matters is actual runtime.
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Ahhh, ok. I get what you mean now. This is normal for most Android phones with large (4" or bigger), bright screens. As long as you are getting good battery life you are fine. I'm assuming you keep your brightness set to automatic?
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Yup..brightness is set to automatic
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Considering you are getting good battery life and your display has that high of a percentage after "sleeping" that long is a good thing. That just means the other processes are running efficiently. You should always expect the Display to take up at least 60% of your battery, especially after a full cycle. What really matters is actual runtime.
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Ok...thanks. I was just wondering.
First charge brightness set at 50%
What is everyone else getting
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First charge brightness set at 50%
What is everyone else getting
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That looks pretty damn good.
I was just about to post a thread. Something is draining my battery life and causing Android System to be the highest battery usage. Check out below.
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That looks pretty damn good.
I was just about to post a thread. Something is draining my battery life and causing Android System to be the highest battery usage. Check out below.
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Can you repost your pictures? They don't seem to be working.
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What is your brightness set at
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Auto brightness.
Not to jack your thread.
But I used my iphone at work to watch videos, ect while there is downtime. I usually watch while it's also on the charger
For the Note series, does anyone know if that "kills" my battery for long term?
I know you can replace battery, but just wondering for future use.
Thanks.
Issue with battery drain due to android system is real
All three people I know that just got the Note 4 were experiencing the same issue I had with excess battery drain with the always generic "android system" taking more battery than anything else including the screen.
I downloaded an app called "System Tuner" and looked the CPU% for Android system and it was a constant 3-4% when the phone was otherwise idle.
I found a post at http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/80459 where they were experiencing the same issue (lose around 12% battery an hour with android system taking a huge chunk of battery). The person from that post was able to address the issue by turning location off, rebooting, turning location on, and rebooting again. After I did this I saw Android system idle at ~0.6% - 1.1% instead. So far I'm getting much better battery life but I'll need to give it some time to know for sure.
Hope this helps!
mine took about 2 full days for everything to finish syncing, downloading, indexing, etc. I had books, news articles, pinned music from google play, etc.
Once that happened, everything is now "normalized" and I'm getting better battery life than I was with the note 3.
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Not to jack your thread.
But I used my iphone at work to watch videos, ect while there is downtime. I usually watch while it's also on the charger
For the Note series, does anyone know if that "kills" my battery for long term?
I know you can replace battery, but just wondering for future use.
Thanks.
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Short answer: Maybe, it depends on how you are doing it. Using it while it is charging is not necessarily bad but watching videos and keeping it plugged in while the cell voltage is pegged at 100% will likely deteriorate your battery faster.
Long answer + tips:
Lithium ion batteries are great - they are light, can be made very thin and have excellent energy density but they are also very finiky.
Things to avoid doing with a lithium ion battery
-Charging to 100%, leaving it plugged in overnight is a poor practice(high cell voltages reduce the service life*, stopping the charge at 90%[4.10v] can double the service life, stopping the charge at 80%[4.00v] can quadruple the service life.*)
- Discharging the battery to below ~20% (Li-Ion batteries are somewhat sensitive to deep discharges)
-Charging/exposing Li-Ion to elevated temps or below freezing.
*service life is defined by when a battery can only retain 70% of its rated capacity. Most consumer batteries used in mobile devices have a service life of 500 charge discharge cycles.
It is not uncommon for batteries to lose 30% capacity in 1.5 years or less. Changing your charging and handling habits can double or quadruple a batteries life span.
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That looks pretty damn good.
I was just about to post a thread. Something is draining my battery life and causing Android System to be the highest battery usage. Check out below.
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LOL your picture took up have my damn screen on my 1080p laptop with 15.7 in screen. It was crystal clear too.
On my 2nd charge, auto brightness. Pretty freakin' amazing battery life....
15.5 hours off the charger with 8+ screen on time!
I got awful battery life on the first charge cycle. It drained 50% overnight. 2nd charge has lasted amazingly long and I still have 64% after 12hrs of average use.
First charge. Battery life has been phenomenal. Brightness on auto.
Did u use any power saving features to achieve that time?
Did u use any power saving features to achieve that time?
Definitely improve battery with recent update and I'm a power user
After the latest update
I dont know why but my phone goes from 100-90 in less than a hr with minimal use while the screen is set at auto, also in the leaving it unplugged in the night the battery also drains like 5 points.
I've been at full brightness and using the hell out of it non stop so far, and I'm at 35% with screen on time at 3hrs 40 min.
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So I got my GS8 yesterday and this is the battery life I get with:
AOD off
No battery saving profile
Wifi on all the time
4G network but no data
Automatic brightness
No gaming, about an hour of video playback
Since I can't share outside links I'll just write the info here: (From 100% to 3%)
Last charged: 10h ago
Screen on time: 4 hours and 30 minutes (812mAh)
Android System: CPU total: 3 hours and 11 minutes (312mAh)
This is not even close to what I expected, do you think this is normal?
Normal. It's happened with both my S8 and my G6. Your battery life will get better in 3-5 days. Android is setting stuff up and optimizing battery life behind the scenes.
You bought it yesterday. Give it time to settle.
Also, turn off automatic Samsung cloud backup, it's on by default.
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Normal. It's happened with both my S8 and my G6. Your battery life will get better in 3-5 days. Android is setting stuff up and optimizing battery life behind the scenes.
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How much better are we talking about? Like what would be my screen-on time on average?
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How much better are we talking about? Like what would be my screen-on time on average?
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I am 45% with 4 hours SOT. But I have days like yours with 4 hours SOT at end of day... It depends on how you use it.
Also depends if you debloat it or not (no root required)
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This is not even close to what I expected, do you think this is normal?
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What did you expect from a 3000mah battery? It all depends how you use the phone, i can empty the battery in an hour if I want.
4.5h is more than respectable, if you want more lower the brightness and use a black theme.
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What did you expect from a 3000mah battery? It all depends how you use the phone, i can empty the battery in an hour if I want.
4.5h is more than respectable, if you want more lower the brightness and use a black theme.
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I expected the sot other users (like people from this forum) get. This battery life I got is bkarely better than that of my 3-year-old Xperia Z1!
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Another question guys. Is a 6% drain over 7 hours of being idle normal? Wifi on and AOD off.
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I expected the sot other users (like people from this forum) get. This battery life I got is bkarely better than that of my 3-year-old Xperia Z1!
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Another question guys. Is a 6% drain over 7 hours of being idle normal? Wifi on and AOD off.
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It pretty much. Also depend on how many apps you installed. If you dont want it run much, add it to smart manager sleep list. My idle about 3hrs/1% man. This is my battery current round and apps list. About 10% wasted battery because I did clear davikcache a few times
This should be normal. with AOD on, my phone takes about 2% per hour, but when browsing webpages, every 1.5 hours costs about 10% of power, watching videos should take more. also, the 1080p and 2k resolution have notable differences. so it seems that the white-background screen cuts down most of battery life, i think.
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This should be normal. with AOD on, my phone takes about 2% per hour, but when browsing webpages, every 1.5 hours costs about 10% of power, watching videos should take more. also, the 1080p and 2k resolution have notable differences. so it seems that the white-background screen cuts down most of battery life, i think.
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For an hour of browsing, mine decreases by 15-20 percent! (On wifi and auto brightness)
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For an hour of browsing, mine decreases by 15-20 percent! (On wifi and auto brightness)
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hmm, i turned my phone as power-saving as possible - brightness is less than half of the bar, suspended all background apps, and FHD resolution. also, after some days of usage, the system should be able to auto balance the power consumption by sleeping some unused apps and some Samsung's system services maybe. so i don't think this is an issue.
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I expected the sot other users (like people from this forum) get. This battery life I got is bkarely better than that of my 3-year-old Xperia Z1!
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Dont believe every sot someone posts here, i've seen a few 8 or 9 hour sot's but i'll bet the brightness was as dim as can be and they used a black theme. Or they were probably reading a book on the phone which uses no cpu at all or using the battery saving feature.
Your z1 also had a 3000mah battery, yet it had a smaller/dimmer screen, lower resolution, less ram, much slower cpu/gpu. How can you be complaining?
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Dont believe every sot someone posts here, i've seen a few 8 or 9 hour sot's but i'll bet the brightness was as dim as can be and they used a black theme. Or they were probably reading a book on the phone which uses no cpu at all or using the battery saving feature.
Your z1 also had a 3000mah battery, yet it had a smaller/dimmer screen, lower resolution, less ram, much slower cpu/gpu. How can you be complaining?
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yeah, you're right, the AMOLED screen with high brightness and white color is the real battery killer. also BTW, does the 'sot' mean 'screen-on time'? sorry for my bad English...
Yup screen on time
4.5h is more than enough ! I am coming from a S6E+ it used to give me 2h SOT MAX ! Hated my life with it.
Do you plat Pokemon Go? I find a lot of people I see complaining about battery do, that game is very poorly optimized for battery consumption.
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Do you plat Pokemon Go? I find a lot of people I see complaining about battery do, that game is very poorly optimized for battery consumption.
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Well no, as I said no games at all.
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And thanks everybody for posting your opinion. It really helped me!
It's more normal than not.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
10+ hours SoT (12 or so full battery) on 60hz mostly browsing chrome, average brightness. I don't do 120hz, period, only reason I'd use it is if a phone didn't have any lower option. I think 120hz looks weird so there's no reason for me personally to waste the battery for it.
Not sure how 120hz would work out
Edit: now getting 12-14 hours SoT 100-0 after having the phone for over a week
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10+ hours SoT (12 or so full battery) on 60hz mostly browsing chrome, average brightness. I don't do 120hz, period, only reason I'd use it is if a phone didn't have any lower option. I think 120hz looks weird so there's no reason for me personally to waste the battery for it.
Not sure how 120hz would work out
Edit: now getting 12-14 hours SoT 100-0 after having the phone for over a week
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Hi there. May I ask how you are getting 10+ hours of SoT? Were there some settings you adjusted to achieve such phenomenal SoT? I'm losing a lot of battery even when I don't use it.
I use 60Hz refresh rate as well, browse chrome, and low brightness as well. Heck, I don't have any social media apps refreshing in the background, only mail and messaging apps occasionally giving me notifications.
Thanks.
golddragon97 said:
Hi there. May I ask how you are getting 10+ hours of SoT? Were there some settings you adjusted to achieve such phenomenal SoT? I'm losing a lot of battery even when I don't use it.
I use 60Hz refresh rate as well, browse chrome, and low brightness as well. Heck, I don't have any social media apps refreshing in the background, only mail and messaging apps occasionally giving me notifications.
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Well I use 60hz and battery saver is on pretty much all the time. (don't use ultra battery saver though, it basically just breaks your phone and messes up settings)
Don't turn the brightness up higher than you need it. Use wifi whenever possible. Turn location/Bluetooth off when not in use.
Not sure of anything else that helps.
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Well I use 60hz and battery saver is on pretty much all the time. (don't use ultra battery saver though, it basically just breaks your phone and messes up settings)
Don't turn the brightness up higher than you need it. Use wifi whenever possible. Turn location/Bluetooth off when not in use.
Not sure of anything else that helps.
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Thanks for the tips.
I used to have battery saver on, but it seems like it bogs down notifications, or maybe it was because I didn't set permissions for every app. I have discussed this in another thread, but anyway, I should use power saver again now that I have all the permissions and data settings out of the way.
Brightness is always as low as possible. I work in an office or at home, and with the virus still hanging around, I haven't been outside for recreation using the camera/GPS, etc.
At least I know you didn't have to work something complicated out. Thanks again.
Wait, your SoT is in one day, right?
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Thanks for the tips.
I used to have battery saver on, but it seems like it bogs down notifications, or maybe it was because I didn't set permissions for every app. I have discussed this in another thread, but anyway, I should use power saver again now that I have all the permissions and data settings out of the way.
Brightness is always as low as possible. I work in an office or at home, and with the virus still hanging around, I haven't been outside for recreation using the camera/GPS, etc.
At least I know you didn't have to work something complicated out. Thanks again.
Wait, your SoT is in one day, right?
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Yeah I recharge it once a day. I use my phone a LOT. Idle drain when I sleep is very low. 2-3% overnight
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Yeah I recharge it once a day. I use my phone a LOT. Idle drain when I sleep is very low. 2-3% overnight
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Oh ok. I'm a bit different because I use my phone maybe about three hours tops everyday.
Interesting because I observed my phone for the past two nights and it's been draining about 6% overnight, around 6 hours sleep time. This is the biggest battery I've ever had on a phone, so losing 6% makes me wonder if I haven't set something up correctly.
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Oh ok. I'm a bit different because I use my phone maybe about three hours tops everyday.
Interesting because I observed my phone for the past two nights and it's been draining about 6% overnight, around 6 hours sleep time. This is the biggest battery I've ever had on a phone, so losing 6% makes me wonder if I haven't set something up correctly.
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It might just be the different apps we use. Different apps will use more power during different use scenarios, 6% overnight isn't TOO bad but it could be lower. Do you have the option on that turns off power draining features when it detects you're asleep? It's somewhere deep in battery saver settings.
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It might just be the different apps we use. Different apps will use more power during different use scenarios, 6% overnight isn't TOO bad but it could be lower. Do you have the option on that turns off power draining features when it detects you're asleep? It's somewhere deep in battery saver settings.
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Yeah, different apps for sure. I don't use anything like Instagram/Snapchat, or whatever people use nowadays. My Mate 10 Pro I've upgraded from stays at the same battery level overnight as when it was taken off the charger when new. Two/three years down the line with some battery degradation, it only drains 2-3% every night, so that's why I was so confused.
I think I know what you're talking about. The sleep detection feature doesn't make a difference. The only difference it has is it doesn't refresh notifications while draining the same amount of battery. I think I might need to dig into the settings a bit more or just take it. The drain isn't all that bad, but may take some time to get used to. I should probably try and do a factory reset or something.
Have you disabled and uninstalled all of the unnecessary junk apps using that Xiaomi adb tool?
I'm using Mi 10 Ultra @ 120Hz and getting 7 hrs SoT + 12 hrs Standby and left with 1%. 6hrs SoT + 10:51 Standby @ 20% left. Heavy use of Facebook and Messenger. Light use of Chrome, Youtube, etc. Google Photos backup turned on. Overnight drain is usually around 5% for me.
Active
5 hrs 41 mins
Standby
4 hrs 12 mins
With 18% left
Does this look any good?
I'm not blown away by the battery life but I guess it's better than what my s20 or even the note 20 ultra was
60 hz vs 120 hz.
Only WiFi, auto brightness, social media apps, few pictures.
Generally it's a decent battery for 120 hz, csn make a hole day without worries.
Battery saver seems to give me an extra 20-30% SoT without noticeably impacting my experience beyond the fact that it disables Gmail sync. 8-10 hours without it, 10-14 with.
Do you guys debloat stuff?
i have no luck with Xiaomi and always have poor battery.
Greenify helps. I don't need to charge every day as my phone turns off at midnight and on at 7am.
It's two batteries not one and they are coated in graphene so I expect longevity!
Early signs are good but when this is rooted with lspeed and Greenify it'll be superb.
Greenify does sleep system apps without root though
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Do you guys debloat stuff?
i have no luck with Xiaomi and always have poor battery.
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I've come from a Mi9 which when rooted with a custom kernel and ROM lasted a couple days of moderate use.
Xiaomi bloat is annoying but the hardware is brilliant. You really should explore unlocking that true potential if you don't...
They're not really coated in graphene, they use a graphene electrode. The benefits of graphene electrodes aren't super clear beyond the fact that they're 1000x more conductive than the typical electrode material used in lithium ion batteries. That means less heat when charging and discharging but it's hard to say what else. Supposedly 800+ cycles for minor capacity degradation to set in, instead of the 300-500 for typical batteries, but that's a claim made by xiaomi not necessarily one that's been scientifically proven on this battery or other phones yet. I'm sure it's better than normal batteries but how much better and in what ways isn't clear yet.
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Greenify helps. I don't need to charge every day as my phone turns off at midnight and on at 7am.
It's two batteries not one and they are coated in graphene so I expect longevity!
Early signs are good but when this is rooted with lspeed and Greenify it'll be superb.
Greenify does sleep system apps without root though
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I've come from a Mi9 which when rooted with a custom kernel and ROM lasted a couple days of moderate use.
Xiaomi bloat is annoying but the hardware is brilliant. You really should explore unlocking that true potential if you don't...
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im aware of it
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im aware of it
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So what's your next step?
My battery life has gotten much worse lately and I'm not sure why exactly. Down to 6-7 hours SoT from 10+ easily before. It happened around the same time I installed accubattery, but I uninstalled it a few hours later so I doubt it's that unless it somehow changed a system setting.