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Notification shade lag/stutter

I have a pretty minimal bunch of apps installed, and yet when I pull the notification shade down, there is lots of stutter, and seconds-long delay when I try and swipe a notification away. As I use the shade to manage my incoming notifications all day long, this is extremely frustrating on such a new phone.
Anyone else finding this? Any ideas?

Yes me too and it's typical Samsung. Going back to pixel.

I have weird lag on notification and facebook until I take out the accessibility service like enpass autofill. once i have done that, everything runs smoothly.

Same here - I did uninstall a bunch of game and other apps, and since then the problem has gone. Phew. Kinda annoying it's really difficult to pinpoint what app is causing the issue...

alexkaye said:
I have a pretty minimal bunch of apps installed, and yet when I pull the notification shade down, there is lots of stutter, and seconds-long delay when I try and swipe a notification away. As I use the shade to manage my incoming notifications all day long, this is extremely frustrating on such a new phone.
Anyone else finding this? Any ideas?
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YES! Having the same issue with notification shade and also the multitasking view when flipping through apps. I can't figure out what's causing it. For me changing screen resolution fixes it every time until it starts happening again.
I don't have any accessibility services running so not sure that's it. Anybody have any ideas of culprits? I have quite a few apps installed but not sure what could be causing this issue

Same here.

No lag at all.
I wonder how many people experience these things have rooted or something?
I've not had any issues with my S8 since I've had it.
Very strange.

Everyone has different apps, data and usage. You could give me your phone and I would wipe and use it and it would lag. That's the reality

Same problem and same resolution : switching performance profile via edge pan

I just got an update on Verizon S8 - the red tint fix or whatever but so far this has fixed my stutter problem. I'm hoping it lasts but by now I would have seen stutter and it's still very smooth. Crossing my fingers

Bittersweetly glad to see others are having the same issue. I first noticed it when I upped the screen res from FHD to QWHD, so I switched back and that seemed to help for a few days. But, it did creep back. I performed a factory reset, but I don't think that's a permanent fix, either. Occasional reboots seem to stave it off, too. I would really like to get to the heart of the problem. FWIW, I'm on a Snapdragon S8+ on T-Mobile, unrooted. Outside this hiccup, really enjoying the phone.

anyone noticed that when you swipe up to the app drawer, there is a hint of stutter/lag? Thats the only annoying thing for me at the moment.. Everything else seems to be ok!!

If your phone is rooted and you have a custom kernel running, you can see why this happens. Install kernel auditor and drag down the status bar, you can see that the cpu goes up a bit. If you increase the minimum cpu (both big and little) to 1 value higher than what you saw when you dragged it down before then this should fix the issue however I assume it will affect battery life but not sure to how much, you'll have to do some testing.

Slow finger scroll issue

Guys, this might be a solution to the jittery slow finger scrolling that seems to be plaguing “some” PH1 devices.
Before I get flamed, please note I’m genuinely trying to help out this community. I don’t own an essential phone but i’d like to. I own a oneplus 3 and recently experienced exactly the same slow finger scroll jitteryness even though flick scrolling was pure butter. This began to happen on my device all of a sudden and I tried everything (and I mean EVERYTHING!) to get to the bottom of why normal scrolling lists etc was totally smooth but if you dragged your finger slowly to scroll it was horribly jittery or juddery. I even tried different kernels, GPU Rendering toggling etc etc etc. I finally got my slow finger scrolling back to being buttery smoooth again purely by chance.
I removed 2 apps that I had set “on” in accessibility settings. BAM! Slow scrolling changed immediately from horrible to smooth. Now I dont know if it was having both apps enabled in Accessibility settings or just one but I dont really care. All I know is that my phone responded immediately on making this change, no need for a reboot. Why did this make my phone slow scrolling lag? I’ve no idea. But, just to double check it was this I re-enabled the 2 apps in Accessibility settings and guess what, normal scrolling stayed buttery smooth but slow finger scrolling changed back to lumpy, jittery, almost like the text was vibrating as it scrolled on the screen.
I know some of you will think “WTF!” and so did I on discovering this. Why would this innocuous setting make a difference to scrolling???
Anyway, give this a try. I know my phone is different to yours but the way my phone went was exactly like the scrolling on the essential phone in the youtube videos floating around. Horrible!! Afterwards, my scrolling is back to pure butter in all scenarios.
I hope this solves the issue for you guys. Good luck and let me know if this works for you
p.s. just to be clear, my 2 apps were Nova launcher and Caller Name Talker. Setting both these to “off” did the trick for me. In your case I’d advise setting ANY apps you have “on” in Accessibility settings to “off”. If it doesn’t work immediately, try a reboot although my Oneplus 3 didn’t need a reboot :good:

Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month

flakko86 said:
Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month
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Well if they do manage to fix this issue then I will definitely buy one. Providing of course that they sort out any early batch quality control issues too. This is without doubt the most beautiful phone ever created.
Camera quality is not important to me but smoothness is my thing. Thats why I don’t buy Samsung/HTC/LG anymore. I’ve seen my brothers s7 edge and it’s a disgraceful stutter/lagfest compared to my Oneplus 3. I got fed up of trying to hone laggy “flagship” phones to be smoother years ago. Pure android or as close to it now for me.
Only totally smooth phones I’ve ever known are Nexus, Oneplus and Pixel phones. My current Oneplus 3 is the smoothest android experience Ive ever had upto now and although I was looking to upgrade in 2017 to something with a SD835 chip, nothing apart from Essential phone has perked my interest so far.

Good to know there's an OTA coming. Mine seems worse when I'm plugged in charging. Scrolling twitter it will freeze, then sometimes it jumps around opening links I never clicked on.
Also, anyone have trouble registering presses on the edge of phone? Any settings in the top right take about 4 or 5 presses to open.

The official fix is coming. Essential received a fix from Qualcomm and it will be included in Octobers second update, it also includes latest security patch

Android Pie Bugs

As promised by Nokia, all the Nokia 6.1 Plus users got the Android Pie Update at the end of October. I feel like the update was rushed and even though they had the Beta Labs for the Android Pie, it still consists of many bugs. Not sure if there are any other bugs other than the ones I'm listing but here are the major ones:
Battery drainage is comparatively more
The fast charging is not working. It takes 3 full hours for full charge. Also it no longer charges upto 50% in 30 minutes.
There are issues with the WiFi where it won't connect to any network until you restart the device.
Bluetooth switches on its own, randomly.
Fingerprint recognition is significantly slower.
The launcher (Quickstep) freezes or even crashes if you uninstall an app from the home screen. Also it freezes occasionally when you use the navigation to switch between apps.
Please list down other bugs that you've had, if any, down below. Also if anyone knows when is Nokia most likely to push an update for fixing these bugs, do let me know since the November security update already came without any fixes.
UPDATE:
Nokia pushed a new update last night. I'm hoping it contains fixes to the numerous bugs.

Frame rate drop on WhatsApp video calls . Don't see frame rate dropping on duo , Skype or any other app . Now I don't know who should be fixing this nokia / Google or whatsapp.

Fingerprints is not working in third party apps like AppLock.Casting is also not working. When I playing games touch is not working properly.So,these are the bugs after updating with pie.
Drainage of battery is also very fast..

Launcher3 crash when you don't have it as a default launcher and try to tap on recent apps. Scrolling left and right works, but as soon as you choose an app or try to click on Clear All, it crashes and takes you back to home screen.

For the battery drainage, with Adaptive Battery turned on, mine is almost equal to that on Oreo.
It does tell that it's fast charging, though it takes around 1 hour and 45 minutes charge fully, compared to 1 hour 30 minutes on Oreo.
Wi-Fi works fine for me, no issues.
I have my Bluetooth always turned on for my band, and it works just fine.
For Fingerprint Recognition, yeah, it feels slow. My Mi A1 is much faster at that.
I had some other issues with the device's lock screen acting super weird. I've set up Google's Face Unlock, and the built-in fingerprint, with a pattern. Sometimes it doesn't actually lock with power button press, and the lock sound comes much later. At that time, it would not unlock either with face or fingerprint, and even the pattern won't work. It occurs rarely, though.

I'm having some issues during calls, I don't know if it's hardware or software, but my mic doesn't work on calls sometimes. I have read on other forums that this is happening for many users of this phone.

Lock the phone and scan the fingerprint, repeat this continuously for 3-4 times. The phone gets hanged.
Also, sometimes, the screen starts flashing randomly and erroneously. Haven't been able to find out the exact reason for this.

Hi
Bro same are problems with my device.
But not with my friend's device
I want to ask whether it is the inbuilt problem of WiFi or software bugs?
I was so annoyed that I had planned to sell this phone .

Shraykashyap said:
As promised by Nokia, all the Nokia 6.1 Plus users got the Android Pie Update at the end of October. I feel like the update was rushed and even though they had the Beta Labs for the Android Pie, it still consists of many bugs. Not sure if there are any other bugs other than the ones I'm listing but here are the major ones:
Battery drainage is comparatively more
The fast charging is not working. It takes 3 full hours for full charge. Also it no longer charges upto 50% in 30 minutes.
There are issues with the WiFi where it won't connect to any network until you restart the device.
Bluetooth switches on its own, randomly.
Fingerprint recognition is significantly slower.
The launcher (Quickstep) freezes or even crashes if you uninstall an app from the home screen. Also it freezes occasionally when you use the navigation to switch between apps.
Please list down other bugs that you've had, if any, down below. Also if anyone knows when is Nokia most likely to push an update for fixing these bugs, do let me know since the November security update already came without any fixes.
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Better request service centre to revert back to Oreo.....i visit there yesterday & successfully revert back to Oreo. Now my 6.1 plus is working flowless.

Bluetooth HD audio AAC doesn't seem to work, judging by the developer options.
Although admittedly, I've never used this on oreo and I know my headphones supports AAC because it worked with another device before.

Is it possible to revert back to Oreo?

When I'm on a call, and if a notification is received, the notification sound is of the battery charging sound. Very weird

Itachi Uchihha said:
Is it possible to revert back to Oreo?
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You can using ost with bl unlocked

pie bugs
1. watsapp video call lags
2. battery draining too fast
3. phone slow down the performance when battery below 10%
4. phone lags usually
5.charging slowly
6. hiding notch not covering full notch
7. wifi issue

Pie Bugs for me:
--WIFI connecting but no internet. Restarting the device everytime is not a good solution. To make sure that WiFi works fine thereafter I do not toggle the WiFi OFF ever.
--"Ok Google" voice activation not working. Neither able to retrain my voice.
--Battery drain is atleast 10% higher over a period of 8 hours in idle mode.
--Fingerprint unlock has become extremely slow.
--Random freeze while trying to unlock using fingerprint scanner. The screen refuses to turn on even when power button is pressed. This happens for almost 5 to 10 minutes till finally the screen turns on.

Harpreet1104 said:
Better request service centre to revert back to Oreo.....i visit there yesterday & successfully revert back to Oreo. Now my 6.1 plus is working flowless.
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Did you lose any data?

d.siracevski said:
Did you lose any data?
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Take backup on laptop/desktop, your phone will be just like box pack.

Phone switches to vibra only move after reboot

Did not use the phone on oreo as as soon as i set it up it upgraded to pie. I am not facing any of the issues mentioned in this thread so far.

hemal_s33 said:
Did not use the phone on oreo as as soon as i set it up it upgraded to pie. I am not facing any of the issues mentioned in this thread so far.
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I ordered one phone for my wife and now I start regretting reading about all these problems after Pie update (the phone is not here yet). I was planning to stop updating it from Oreo, any way to do it or once it gets set and WIFI on it will start updating itself ? Interesting that in your case it works, do you think that they changed OTA so new updates gets a newer fixed version ?

Android 10 stable UI lag

Hi,
I've noticed a UI lag when switching between apps or transitioning from an open app to home screen. This didn't happen in the Android 10 beta rom. Anybody have the same issue? I clean flashed the stable android 10.

I can confirm this issue in the stable release. But I would like to add that this lag was already in the beta release and is in my testing not app specific. I would clear the cache and make a reboot.

Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.

Floridaplur said:
Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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I have, and while it does suppress animations, it actually feels less polished. And anyway, it does not resolve the UI lag which is really visible when using th app switcher. It's dropping below like 10fps. As if some gfx acceleration was disabled or the phone was completely overwhelmed

Anyone found a fix? I experience the lag every once in a while, though it's prevalent enough to be annoying.

I am having this literally every time i use the alt-tab like feature. Oneplus managed to **** up the one thing (butter smooth) Google has been bragging about for several versions ???

A simple fix would be toh format device once, as I have clean flashed and I don't face any lags

Dissable ram boost in system settings

fress said:
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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I'm having random lag too. I'l try to disable RAM boost and is if it helps.

fress said:
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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doesn't change a thing. (and am wondering it would. This feature is supposed to make smoothness (even) better, not worse)

Turn off auto brightness .. maybe it can help

I have been reading up on the A10 stable release posts and I saw a lot of people mentioning the issue that you are talking about here.
Many of them suggested a full format. So basically setting up your device as a new device.
I cannot confirm if this works for everyone but a lot of people are saying that after a fresh install they are not facing any issues.
All of the points mentioned above are just what I read from xda and op forum posts. I personally have not made the switch yet and probably wont be doing so soon.

Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.

maxsak said:
Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.

The update showed up on my phone on the 25th, but, I'm NOT updating. 9 is too damn stable for me, & I don't see any "features" in 10 that will benefit me.

After reading all this i am not going to update to 10. Yet happy with 9.17.
Tmob unbranded dual sim op6t.

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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.

MightySashiman said:
I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
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Lagging issue I've seen many reporting in xda on the stock rom OOS 10.3.0. But 5GHz is working as expected. I can confirm it because I'm using 5GHz WiFI now and then

adondriel said:
I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
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After a night/day of normal testing with this, where I would normally have issues, I have not had and of the lag I mentioned above. This seems to have fixed some things. So, I would suggest that you first check to see what running processes are using all the ram, and then turn on strict mode in dev settings, if that doesn't solve your issues. I also have Ram Boost option turned off.

I experience the FPS drop quite often after the update. It's especially noticable when scrolling pages, switching between apps, pulling down the upper panel. The slowness seems to disappear temporarily after closing all apps. But I can't say that some particular app causes the lag.
UPD: A simple test to recreate the problem. I push the square button to switch between apps. Start swiping finger left-right and watch the animation smoothness. After 5-10 seconds comes the wave of low FPS, which lasts for a couple of seconds. Then the process repeats. The slowness doesn't seem to depend on some exact apps that are open.
UPD2: Well, I've just found out that the problem isn't constant throughout the day. There must be some connection to applications running in the background or something like this.

Randomly low performance?

Hey I just got my Z4. Upgraded from a Z2 Play. I bought direct from Motorola off their website. I'm having really strange 2D performance issues, and was wondering if anyone else is having similar issues because they seem outright stupid for a phone as beefy as this one is to be doing this.
OK, so, this is going to sound super vague because I did try to nail it down with a ctrace, but wasn't able to come up with anything conclusive.
Sometimes, when drawing 2D only, my phone will drop to 30fps or lower. This happens in both in the launcher/normal apps and games (Fire Emblem Heroes)
However, when the phone is drawing in 3D (Dragalia Lost) the phone never drops below 60fps, ever, for any reason.
I have tried the developer option to force 2D Drawing on the GPU. This does not change the behavior at all.
This happens regardless of what MotoMod I have attached (None, Car Dock, Projector, 360 Camera)
This seems really weird to me. The phone isn't getting hot. It happens both plugged in and unplugged. Fresh reboots and not. What's interesting about this is it's exactly the opposite of my Z2 Play, which Dragalia F***ing hated (It would run fine for anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes, and then it would crash) but FEH would run fine on, and never ever have issues, ever, even if the phone hadn't been rebooted in like, 3 months. And the Z2 Play is just generally a weaker, crappier device in every way (Except Ram, I had the 64gb/4gb model of the Z2 Play) than the Z4, I kind of "expect" the Z4 to just do everything the Z2 did but better.
I'm not a particularly heavy user (I upgraded from my Z2 Play because the battery was expanding, not because it was insufficient) and both of the games mentioned are the only things I do on my phone that could be considered to "Push" the phone in any way (Push in quotes because Dragalia and FEH are both REALLY light games.)
Has anyone else noticed any strangeness like this?

I have the same issue, and yes, it's really hard to describe and difficult to determine what causes it.
What it actually looks like to me is that the digitizer randomly goes into a powersaving mode and samples input at a lower frequency. When scrolling through any app, if you hold your finger down, it'll make it look like it's running at 30fps or less. But if you fling a page that can scroll, for the most part the scrolling animation will be full 60fps.
I know for certain that if you reboot the phone, you're more likely to trigger it soon after boot. But, if you suffer through the agonizing experience, the phone will eventually fix itself for the next week or so before it happens again.
Here's the weird part, not everyone is affected by the weird performance. My theory is most people can't detect it or don't care, or there's a particular app that is prompting the digitizer to behave badly. No idea what it is though.

damentz said:
I have the same issue, and yes, it's really hard to describe and difficult to determine what causes it.
What it actually looks like to me is that the digitizer randomly goes into a powersaving mode and samples input at a lower frequency. When scrolling through any app, if you hold your finger down, it'll make it look like it's running at 30fps or less. But if you fling a page that can scroll, for the most part the scrolling animation will be full 60fps.
I know for certain that if you reboot the phone, you're more likely to trigger it soon after boot. But, if you suffer through the agonizing experience, the phone will eventually fix itself for the next week or so before it happens again.
Here's the weird part, not everyone is affected by the weird performance. My theory is most people can't detect it or don't care, or there's a particular app that is prompting the digitizer to behave badly. No idea what it is though.
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It's definitely not the digitizer though! I have some data! Fire Emblem Heroes has an autobattle mode, This is as likely to happen during an autobattle when I am providing no input (Phone sitting on desk/just watching while holding) as it is when I'm scrolling through my list of apps.

Same problem here, pretty sluggish experience compared to my girlfriend's G7 Plus.

I've noticed that since the latest update, this issue has gone away for me. Anyone else confirm?

I don't think it was the update, but certain apps seem to exaggerate performance issues. I fixed mine by marking Pokemon Go (the only 3d game I play), as "Restricted" under battery usage settings.
I've been testing this configuration for about 2 days now and it looks like that solved it.

Just to set the record straight, the Android 10 update fixed the random performance problems that have plagued the device so far. There is some hitching right after a reboot, but if you let the phone settle, it's fine until the next reboot.