I've been looking into roms and such and came across goldeneye, carbon rom and dirty unicorns (that I've got interested in) and i've had my mind set on Dirty Unicorns Rom, but I am rooted to 4.4.4, I am confused whether or not I have to downgrade and update CWM or TWRP in order to flash this rom? And if so do I downgrade to a stock firmware then root, then flash? I want to install Dirty Unicorns 5.1.1. And if so can anyone point me in the right direction? I've looked around the forum and did some searches and perhaps i'm not searching the right keywords.
Any help would be much appreciated and I apologize in advance if there was anything on this but im a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Using AT&T I337 Rooted 4.4.4
Edit: Also how do I know whether or not I have safestrap or if my bootloader is locked or unlocked?
Sorry, but you can't flash that firmware on 4.4.4 as the bootloader is locked, and you can't go back. Only stock recovery, stock kernel and Safestrap can be used on your phone. You will be limited to touchwiz based firmware.
creepyncrawly said:
Sorry, but you can't flash that firmware on 4.4.4 as the bootloader is locked, and you can't go back. Only stock recovery, stock kernel and Safestrap can be used on your phone. You will be limited to touchwiz based firmware.
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Thats ridiculous. I was reading for hours and finally picked up on it after I posted this. Thanks for the reply. I even debated on buying a new mobo until I checked the prices. Well looks like I'm stuck until I can afford something other than this junk.
My mxpe is the first phone I haven't unlocked and rooted right away (I've been learning this stuff since my HTC Aria and froyo).
Question: with the new challenges rooting Nougat, would it be wiser to unlock and root now (I'm on stock 6.0) and wait for a flashable zip of Nougat, or wait and take the OTA when it comes and then root?
When I rooted my moto x2 I did so after taking the OTA to 6.0 and it was fine. I understand the systemless root for N is more complex.
Thoughts?
I literally just got one of these. I'm back with Moto after getting pissed off at LG.
I'm thinking I'm going to wait and see. I love the near stock experience with this phone I almost don't need root right now.
Unlocked boot loader wont matter unless lenovo locks the bootloader again without letting you unlock it. The thing about N being harder to root is for phones with locked boot loaders who cant just run full custom recovery...
See, there really isn't a reason not to (TWRP flash a pre-rooted ROM when N comes out if bad comes to worse). Still, N will not make it more/less rootable, so waiting is an option.
Screw it...I just unlocked the BL and rooted then installed one of the tweaked debloat Roms. Lol....didn't take me long to decide.
Hello
My LG V10 came across the famous bootloop issue, and I shipped it to LG. In the meantime, I am using an old S4 that was saved for emergencies like this one. It is running 4.4.4, I337UCUFNJ4, and I rooted it with Kingoroot.
I understand that it should OTA to 5.1 in pronably a day or 2 if I check for a software update; it sat turned off since 2014, so it did not receive anything.
1. Do I OTA and reroot?
2. Can I manually jump to 5.1?
Ultimately, I would like to install TWRP and the Blissrom or some other ROM, but I don't want to take an OTA that may screw me up for later. I read that there's a loki thing that will prevent future installations of recovery or something like that. I realize that I will be using a short time (2-3 weeks), but I would like to leave it rooted and with a good ROM.
Thank you
The bootloader is locked so that means TWRP cannot be flashed to the phone and the phone will only run custom ROMs based off a stock Samsung ROM.
OTA updates will not work if the phone is rooted.
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The bootloader is locked so that means TWRP cannot be flashed to the phone and the phone will only run custom ROMs based off a stock Samsung ROM.
OTA updates will not work if the phone is rooted.
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I'm confused or perhaps you are misinformed. I have seen a lot of ROMs for this device including Blissrom and many others. All od them get flashed through twrp or Safeway or aome name like that.
You mean safestrap?
Maybe you are thinking of the non-AT&T models of the s4 that work with custom ROMs such as Lineage and Validus. Only the AT&T version of the s4 has a locked bootloader, starting with Android 4.3 and up.
There has never been an sgh-i337 s4 with a locked bootloader than can run TWRP. Same goes for the AT&T sm-n900a note 3 with a locked bootloader.
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You mean safestrap?
Maybe you are thinking of the non-AT&T models of the s4 that work with custom ROMs such as Lineage and Validus. Only the AT&T version of the s4 has a locked bootloader, starting with Android 4.3 and up.
There has never been an sgh-i337 s4 with a locked bootloader than can run TWRP. Same goes for the AT&T sm-n900a note 3 with a locked bootloader.
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But there's a forum dedicated to AT&T development full of roms here on xda.
Yes, there is a full section but you need to look at the ROM requirements. Some of these ROMs were developed before AT&T pushed out an OTA update that locked the bootloader. Other ROMs are made for the non-AT&T s4 such as the sgh-i337m and gt-i9505.
You will not see any ROM that is not based off a stock Samsung ROM that can be installed onto an AT&T s4 that has a locked bootloader. Also, you will not see any version of TWRP/CWM/Philz that can be installed onto an AT&T s4 that has a locked bootloader. Same goes for the AT&T sm-n900a.
I understand your skepticism and appreciate your posts as we are all here to learn from each other.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785166
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/ez-unlock-bricked-phone-galaxy-att-s4-t3703235
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/help-installed-chainfire3d-phone-doesnt-t3700830
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-ok2-locked-t3458353
Thanks for the clarification. So how do I know if my bootloader is locked? If I took that ota update that messed things up?
The bootloader becomes locked when the phone is updated to Android 4.3 or newer. I think it needs to be on the MDL bootloader to be unlocked. Anything beginning with an "N" or "O" means that the bootloader is locked.
Thanks audit. And I assume that there's no way to go backwards to a pre-4.3 rom and unlock that bootloader.
So. I'm on 4.44 rooted. Do i remove root and take any ota and reroot? I guess that I'll settle for going as high as possible with the stock rom but rooted with the ability to disable some of the bloatware.
How can I proceed?
In those links that you mentioned, it states that we can flash debloated TouchWiz roms that might be better than stock. Is that right? So can I do that?
You will need to install safestrap to flash a custom ROM. The debloated ROMs must be based off a ROM that is designed for the AT&T s4.
I recommend reading through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Audit... I odined back to nb1, rooted, and used flashify to get to rooted stock oc3.
How can I get to ok3? And should I leave ota services frozen so as to not ruin and loose root?
OTA will not work with a rooted phone.
Maybe this will help: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56453108&postcount=2
I don't have an sgh-i337 so I can't tell you how to get back to a completely stock ROM to get OTA updates. I have the sgh-i337m which is the Canadian version of the s4 without a locked bootloader.
I wrote a guide and FAQ revolving around the MDL bootloader here (if anyone cares to read it):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
Hello all!
It's been a while since I've been back, and i've definitely been out of the loop for this phone..
The last thing I did with it was right after I bought it, I unlocked it, rooted it, put TWRP custom recovery on it using the "dirtycow recowvery" patch and method.
Very very long time ago...
I'm still running Nougat 7.0.1 I believe? Basically whatever the phone shipped with.
I have the T-Mobile Variant:
LGH91860fbde7d
My main question is, any phone is unusable for me if I can't get Root, and a custom recovery on it.
What is the latest version/guide on the LG V20 of the latest version of Android that it supports to download and install where I can still Root, and put TWRP on it?
I did search the forum, but there's a lot of guides, and I don't want to "assume" that it's for the latest version of Android (Oreo?) for the V20, so I wanted to make sure
Thanks!!
It has come to my attention that the H873 is not (yet) rootable, and may never receive a root. Though that is a bummer, while looking for possible ways to root, I have read many forum-posts relating to the conversion of a H872 device to a H873, in order to receive the Android 9 update. So, is the vice-versa possible? Can I change my H873 to the H872, and root it from there? Any answer will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.
No. You will brick your device.
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No. You will brick your device.
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Thanks for the reply. Soft brick, or Hard brick? Has it been confirmed that bricking will occur? If so, then how did people swap from H872 to H873, all without bricking their phone, and without the need for root?
Hard. People can change H872 to H873 and install Android 9 on it is because they're still installing an official OS on their phones.
Rooting and installing Custom ROM requires an unlocked bootloader and a custom Recovery.
Installing a custom Recovery over a locked bootloader can cause a hard brick.
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Hard. People can change H872 to H873 and install Android 9 on it is because they're still installing an official OS on their phones.
Rooting and installing Custom ROM requires an unlocked bootloader and a custom Recovery.
Installing a custom Recovery over a locked bootloader can cause a hard brick.
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Don't get me wrong. I mean to flash the official stock Firmware of the H872 onto my H873, so, there is no rooting/custom recovery/custom ROM required. I have already rolled back to Android 7 for the H873, so I know how to use LG UP and things of the like.
What is it that you want to do? If you don't want to root, why bother flashing 872 firmware to your 873? Do you not already have the latest update on H873?
I'll say this once again, flashing H872 onto H873 will not get you root. If your plan is to convert your H873 to H872 and then root it, it will still fail. Because you need an unlocked bootloader to root.
The only two devices to get unlocked bootloader are H870 (EU) and H872 (T-Mobile).
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What is it that you want to do? If you don't want to root, why bother flashing 872 firmware to your 873? Do you not already have the latest update on H873?
I'll say this once again, flashing H872 onto H873 will not get you root. If your plan is to convert your H873 to H872 and then root it, it will still fail. Because you need an unlocked bootloader to root.
The only two devices to get unlocked bootloader are H870 (EU) and H872 (T-Mobile).
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Aren't there unofficial ways to unlock the H872? And even if there aren't, if I were to convert to the H872, will that not allow me to unlock via the official website? Also, i don't really care which model I convert to, so long as it works. I am willing to convert to H870, or the US997; It does not matter.
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Aren't there unofficial ways to unlock the H872? And even if there aren't, if I were to convert to the H872, will that not allow me to unlock via the official website? Also, i don't really care which model I convert to, so long as it works. I am willing to convert to H870, or the US997; It does not matter.
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The "official" method won't work because even if you flash H870/US997 firmware to your H873 you still can't unlock your device as the "unlocked code" required to unlock BL is tied to your device ID and IMEI, you changing your firmware will not change that.
Same with H872. The H872 can be unlocked because T-Mobile does not lock their bootloader, you changing the firmware of your H873 to H872 will not allow you to unlock. And very likely you'll end up with a hard brick from which you can't recover.
If you still want to be experimental, go ahead.
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The "official" method won't work because even if you flash H870/US997 firmware to your H873 you still can't unlock your device as the "unlocked code" required to unlock BL is tied to your device ID and IMEI, you changing your firmware will not change that.
Same with H872. The H872 can be unlocked because T-Mobile does not lock their bootloader, you changing the firmware of your H873 to H872 will not allow you to unlock. And very likely you'll end up with a hard brick from which you can't recover.
If you still want to be experimental, go ahead.
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Thanks. I'll ask around on more forums, and see if I can do something. Worse case scenario, I either wait for an unofficial root to be released, or just try swapping for a H872. Again, thanks for the help.
There won't be "official" or even "unofficial" unlock for the phone. The bootloader is locked by the carrier and therefore there won't be any official unlock, and the phone is old and the development scene for this phone isn't as impressive and this is why there won't be any unofficial unlock method.
Your best bet is swapping your model with H870/H872/US977
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There won't be "official" or even "unofficial" unlock for the phone. The bootloader is locked by the carrier and therefore there won't be any official unlock, and the phone is old and the development scene for this phone isn't as impressive and this is why there won't be any unofficial unlock method.
Your best bet is swapping your model with H870/H872/US977
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There is hope! 6 days ago, somebody was asking a question for the H873. It seems that they're trying to form a root. In addition to that, not too long ago, there was an app that gave root access. I'm not sure if it's permanent, though, and, apparently, since it's not done, it gives all apps root access, instead of the ones that you grant root access to. I don't think this scene is dead, given those two forums. Guess we'll just have to keep our chins up.
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Don't get me wrong. I mean to flash the official stock Firmware of the H872 onto my H873, so, there is no rooting/custom recovery/custom ROM required. I have already rolled back to Android 7 for the H873, so I know how to use LG UP and things of the like.
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Can u please tell me how did u rolled back to nougat. I've updated my h873 to pie now it's super laggy. Can u help me please :crying:
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Can u please tell me how did u rolled back to nougat. I've updated my h873 to pie now it's super laggy. Can u help me please :crying:
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I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I remember following a guide off of XDA, so, it should be around here somewhere. Also, if you haven't already, I'd recommend factory resetting after an upgrade/downgrade. My phone used to lag as well, but, after factory-resetting, it works like a charm. I wish you luck on your venture. Make sure to use the correct firmware! Apparently, it'll brick the device if you flash a different model's firmware.
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I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I remember following a guide off of XDA, so, it should be around here somewhere. Also, if you haven't already, I'd recommend factory resetting after an upgrade/downgrade. My phone used to lag as well, but, after factory-resetting, it works like a charm. I wish you luck on your venture. Make sure to use the correct firmware! Apparently, it'll brick the device if you flash a different model's firmware.
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Thanks for the info .
I've tried some XDA guide but none of them are working for me.
Hoping i will find some other thread that would work.
Thanks for replying
Im having h873, and i want to install custom rom but nothing is getting to unlock bl or to install custome rom...im disapointed
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TipTopHiatus said:
I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I remember following a guide off of XDA, so, it should be around here somewhere. Also, if you haven't already, I'd recommend factory resetting after an upgrade/downgrade. My phone used to lag as well, but, after factory-resetting, it works like a charm. I wish you luck on your venture. Make sure to use the correct firmware! Apparently, it'll brick the device if you flash a different model's firmware.
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If you found a way plz tell me