I've been looking into roms and such and came across goldeneye, carbon rom and dirty unicorns (that I've got interested in) and i've had my mind set on Dirty Unicorns Rom, but I am rooted to 4.4.4, I am confused whether or not I have to downgrade and update CWM or TWRP in order to flash this rom? And if so do I downgrade to a stock firmware then root, then flash? I want to install Dirty Unicorns 5.1.1. And if so can anyone point me in the right direction? I've looked around the forum and did some searches and perhaps i'm not searching the right keywords.
Any help would be much appreciated and I apologize in advance if there was anything on this but im a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Using AT&T I337 Rooted 4.4.4
Edit: Also how do I know whether or not I have safestrap or if my bootloader is locked or unlocked?
Sorry, but you can't flash that firmware on 4.4.4 as the bootloader is locked, and you can't go back. Only stock recovery, stock kernel and Safestrap can be used on your phone. You will be limited to touchwiz based firmware.
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Sorry, but you can't flash that firmware on 4.4.4 as the bootloader is locked, and you can't go back. Only stock recovery, stock kernel and Safestrap can be used on your phone. You will be limited to touchwiz based firmware.
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Thats ridiculous. I was reading for hours and finally picked up on it after I posted this. Thanks for the reply. I even debated on buying a new mobo until I checked the prices. Well looks like I'm stuck until I can afford something other than this junk.
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Months ago I flashed my phone (AT&T S4 I337 running MLD baseband) to stock 4.3 ROM (JWR66V). I have TWRP installed as a custom recovery and the phone is working fine. However, I don't have root access when the OS is running. No sure why.
Anyway, I'm bored and there are a few nagging bugs, so want to give Cyanogenmod a shot. My questions for you are.
1) can I just download the appropriate CM release and flash it?
2) Do I need to reroot? If so, whats the best method for me?
If its really risky, I'm not interested. But if it's a matter of just flashing the rom, I'd like to give it a try. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.
Hi, I'd like something cleared up. I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 running Kitkat 4.4.4 which I have rooted. I was wanting to flash this Liquidsmooth ROM on it. It says it supports it, right? But how do you install this ROM if the locked bootloader keeps you from installing TWRP or CWM Recovery? Can it only be installed on the developer edition? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I'd like something cleared up. I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 running Kitkat 4.4.4 which I have rooted. I was wanting to flash this Liquidsmooth ROM on it. It says it supports it, right? But how do you install this ROM if the locked bootloader keeps you from installing TWRP or CWM Recovery? Can it only be installed on the developer edition? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
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It says in the OP the ROM is AOSP based, which means you cannot flash it on the retail Verizon version. It can only be flashed on the Developer Edition Verizon variant.
Ok, that's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure. Thanks for your help!
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Hi, I'd like something cleared up. I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 running Kitkat 4.4.4 which I have rooted. I was wanting to flash this Liquidsmooth ROM on it. It says it supports it, right? But how do you install this ROM if the locked bootloader keeps you from installing TWRP or CWM Recovery? Can it only be installed on the developer edition? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Thanks in advance.
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I was wondering exactly the same thing. I'm a total noob, I've never flashed a ROM. I rooted Verizon Galaxy S5, w KitKat 4.4.4. I wondered: if Lollipop kills Safestrap, how am I supposed to recover from a inappropriate Lollipop ROM? I was so frustrated by this question, I just bought (a cheap, mint) Developer Edition Samsung Galaxy S5. Now what? I would like to flash ROMS on my new phone , have found threads to do so, but the general question remains: what ROMS are right? Can the Developer Edition (DE) take any ROM that a non-Developer Edition can take? Can the DE S5 take ANY AOSP ROM? Such as CM 12.1? And to phrase the question for those with the non-DE S5 - how does one recover from a bad Lollipop ROM, if one cannot install recovery on a locked bootloader Verizon S5? -- and if one cannot use Safestrap (because I thought Safestrap was broken in Lollipop). Does one have to downgrade to KitKat to fix an incorrect ROM situation? Lots of questions, I'll research, but these still remain. Thank you!
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I was wondering exactly the same thing. I'm a total noob, I've never flashed a ROM. I rooted Verizon Galaxy S5, w KitKat 4.4.4. I wondered: if Lollipop kills Safestrap, how am I supposed to recover from a inappropriate Lollipop ROM? I was so frustrated by this question, I just bought (a cheap, mint) Developer Edition Samsung Galaxy S5. Now what? I would like to flash ROMS on my new phone , have found threads to do so, but the general question remains: what ROMS are right? Can the Developer Edition (DE) take any ROM that a non-Developer Edition can take? Can the DE S5 take ANY AOSP ROM? Such as CM 12.1? And to phrase the question for those with the non-DE S5 - how does one recover from a bad Lollipop ROM, if one cannot install recovery on a locked bootloader Verizon S5? -- and if one cannot use Safestrap (because I thought Safestrap was broken in Lollipop). Does one have to downgrade to KitKat to fix an incorrect ROM situation? Lots of questions, I'll research, but these still remain. Thank you!
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A developer edition cannot run Roms for the retail edition. You will lock your device. You can backup your phone or flash something else by using Odin to flash a kernel of an earlier build such as nk2. This will bring safestrap back up.
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I was wondering exactly the same thing. I'm a total noob, I've never flashed a ROM. I rooted Verizon Galaxy S5, w KitKat 4.4.4. I wondered: if Lollipop kills Safestrap, how am I supposed to recover from a inappropriate Lollipop ROM? I was so frustrated by this question, I just bought (a cheap, mint) Developer Edition Samsung Galaxy S5. Now what? I would like to flash ROMS on my new phone , have found threads to do so, but the general question remains: what ROMS are right? Can the Developer Edition (DE) take any ROM that a non-Developer Edition can take? Can the DE S5 take ANY AOSP ROM? Such as CM 12.1? And to phrase the question for those with the non-DE S5 - how does one recover from a bad Lollipop ROM, if one cannot install recovery on a locked bootloader Verizon S5? -- and if one cannot use Safestrap (because I thought Safestrap was broken in Lollipop). Does one have to downgrade to KitKat to fix an incorrect ROM situation? Lots of questions, I'll research, but these still remain. Thank you!
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I wouldn't suggest installing roms based off retail firmware for the de version as it'll probably lock your bootloader. Developer editions can take any aosp rom made for the kltevzw, and any rom that isn't based off of retail firmware, for that matter. Safestrap doesn't work on lollipop, but if you want it to run all you have to do is flash a kitkat kernel on odin and safestrap will work again, ths system will not, however, unless you install a lollipop kernel.
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A developer edition cannot run Roms for the retail edition. You will lock your device. You can backup your phone or flash something else by using Odin to flash a kernel of an earlier build such as nk2. This will bring safestrap back up.
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thank you!
Are there any AOSP ROMS based on CM12.1 that are semi-stable? I saw the one by albinoman887 , but that one does not yet seem stable, and since I am a n00b, might not be a good idea to flash it.... Are there any other ROMS for Samsung GS5 kltevzw phones with unlocked bootloaders that you know of?
thank you!
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thank you!
Are there any AOSP ROMS based on CM12.1 that are semi-stable? I saw the one by albinoman887 , but that one does not yet seem stable, and since I am a n00b, might not be a good idea to flash it.... Are there any other ROMS for Samsung GS5 kltevzw phones with unlocked bootloaders that you know of?
thank you!
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I am too unfamiliar with the developer edition. I wouldn't want to mess up your phone.
I currently have AT&T stock (I used to have a custom ROM then had to flash to stock ROM to be able to flash to another custom ROM--however, I accidentally flashed a newer version of the AT&T stock ROM which locked my bootloader and I could no longer flash to a custom ROM). I updated my AT&T stock ROM recently and now my back/menu buttons don't work, so I want to see if I can flash to a custom ROM now.
I don't remember the procedure to flash a custom ROM--do I first need to get root in order to unlock the bootloader to be able to flash ROMs (i.e. if I have root then I am guaranteed to be able to unlock bootloader in order to flash ROM)? Is the baseband version the only thing that determines whether I can unlock the bootloader and then be able to flash ROMs?
I currently have OK2 as broadband version and checked one of the stickied threads which said this:
" ROOT
OK2 -- No direct root method. Must Odin OC4 kernel, use Kingroot, then Odin OK2 kernel back."
Does that mean what I have to do is use Odin to get OC4 kernel, then use Kingroot, then Odin OK2 kernel and then I will be able to have root, which means I can then unlock my bootloader and be able to flash to ANY ROM (not just TouchWiz-based ROMs)? Is there anything else I need to consider or is this 100% foolproof? In the future, what should I be careful of in order to prevent getting my bootloader locked again--just that I don't flash a stock (AT&T) ROM that is known to lock back the bootloader?
Thank you all!
There's no way to unlock the bootloader if you have updated your device to the lastest firmware version. The only thing you can do is flash SafeStrap and use Stock Kernel Based ROMs which are compatible with Safestrap.
As regards to the procedure of rooting an OK2 firmware, I'm afraid I won't be able to help you.
Have a happy new year.
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...however, I accidentally flashed a newer version of the AT&T stock ROM which locked my bootloader ...
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I was just about to sit down and flash a stock ROM. Can you explain what you mean by this? Did you flash OK2 and it caused you a problem?
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I was just about to sit down and flash a stock ROM. Can you explain what you mean by this? Did you flash OK2 and it caused you a problem?
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It was a while ago but I used to have I believe an MDL broadband version which meant I could flash any ROM available. I tried a different ROM, didn't like it, then decided to flash back to the stock ROM but accidentally flashed a newer version of it, which meant that my bootloader is now locked. With a locked bootloader, apparently I can only flash to a newer stock ROM (not other ROMs like Cyanogenmod) via Safestrap.
I think if you don't have the MDL broadband version you shouldn't worry about it anyway because it is locked and you will only be limited to flashing stock ROMs.
Slight correction
The previous entry is not entirely correct. Like the OP, I was originally on an unlocked bootloader on my i337. I'd purchased my i337 on the first day and eschewed OTA updates. I wanted to try a touchwiz based ROM, Hyperdrive, and in doing so I recall flashing the stock NB1 firmware. Every firmware beginning with NB1 has a locked bootloader and there has been no progress for more than a year in unlocking the bootloader again. This can limit you to either stock ROMs OR other touchwiz based ROMs like Hyperdrive. I love the Hyperdrive ROM (now on release 21) but its developer has moved on to a newer phone, so it's stuck at Android 4.4.2 and no one has picked up the project in many months. There are several other touchwiz based ROMs for the i337 version of the S4 which I have also tried but I prefer Hyperdrive's myriad customization, even without proper patching. I'll be moving on soon to the Nexus 6P as my daily driver, but would very much like to keep my S4 up to date with a custom ROM. Given the number of people that have been in this same situation, where a newer stock ROM from AT&T locked a previously unlocked bootloader, it's been surprising that the issues have not been overcome on a phone as popular as the Galaxy S4 was and continues to be. I've seen unlocked versions of the S4 selling for just under $400 in the last week of 2015.
Use the desktop version of Kingoroot to root and use Super su and update the binary. Don't forget to hit thanks if this helped.
The bootloader for the at&t s4 was never unlocked. The MDL bootloader had a flaw in it that allowed you to use LOKI which is a lock bypass, not a way to unlock the bootloader.
Hi all, I wanted to get some info on this topic, I have done allot of searching/reading and still have a bit of confusion. Currently I have a SGH-I337 AT&T S4 that is running 5.0.1 that I rooted. I want to update to the custom 6.0 ROM, which I downloaded from the JDC Team along with Gapps and superSU 2.52. I am going to follow the directions on their thread, but my issue is flashing the latest correct version of TWRP. I am able to boot into recovery and when Im flashing the TWRP version they have on their site (recovery,flash from SD, TWRP-2.8.7.2-F2FS.ZIP) I get a footer and authenticate error. Im assuming this version of TWRP is not compatible with this ver. S4? Or is there another way I have to flash it to the phone. Please point me to a thread that has the steps to do this if possible.
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Hi all, I wanted to get some info on this topic, I have done allot of searching/reading and still have a bit of confusion. Currently I have a SGH-I337 AT&T S4 that is running 5.0.1 that I rooted. I want to update to the custom 6.0 ROM, which I downloaded from the JDC Team along with Gapps and superSU 2.52. I am going to follow the directions on their thread, but my issue is flashing the latest correct version of TWRP. I am able to boot into recovery and when Im flashing the TWRP version they have on their site (recovery,flash from SD, TWRP-2.8.7.2-F2FS.ZIP) I get a footer and authenticate error. Im assuming this version of TWRP is not compatible with this ver. S4? Or is there another way I have to flash it to the phone. Please point me to a thread that has the steps to do this if possible.
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Your phone has the newer bootloader which is locked. Only variants with older bootloader, mdl and mdb will be able to flash twrp.
You can still use flashfire but your options are limited and marshmallow isn't one of them.
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Your phone has the newer bootloader which is locked. Only variants with older bootloader, mdl and mdb will be able to flash twrp.
You can still use flashfire but your options are limited and marshmallow isn't one of them.
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Thanks..
jgig73 said:
Hi all, I wanted to get some info on this topic, I have done allot of searching/reading and still have a bit of confusion. Currently I have a SGH-I337 AT&T S4 that is running 5.0.1 that I rooted. I want to update to the custom 6.0 ROM, which I downloaded from the JDC Team along with Gapps and superSU 2.52. I am going to follow the directions on their thread, but my issue is flashing the latest correct version of TWRP. I am able to boot into recovery and when Im flashing the TWRP version they have on their site (recovery,flash from SD, TWRP-2.8.7.2-F2FS.ZIP) I get a footer and authenticate error. Im assuming this version of TWRP is not compatible with this ver. S4? Or is there another way I have to flash it to the phone. Please point me to a thread that has the steps to do this if possible.
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Currently I have the same phone and carrier...
If you are still interested in a custom recovery our only option is SafeStrap Recovery, you might want to check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448925. I was able to install SafeStrap and utilize NC1 Flasher to facilitate booting into SafeStrap Recovery with no problems whatsoever. Once you have SafeStrap Recovery operational on your phone you can also flash custom TouchWiz ROM's.
I hope that helps and, I'm far from an expert but, don't hesitate asking any questions!
PEACE
Greetings. Here's a bit of quick backstory-
I have experience rooting many android devices. I have only flashed 2 kernels before iirc (2 different devices) with Odin. I've tried to do as much reading as I could but I'm a little stumped and also been having some brainfog due to life stress so I need a little help if anyone could be kind enough to help.
The main device in question is my At&t Galaxy s4
-SGH-1337 on 4.4.4
-Baseband/build NJ4
-Stock at&t rom as far as I remember
-Rooted
-Locked bootloader
Now what I want to do is flash a good custom rom. I have my eye on Hyperdrive but I'm confused on a few things-
•Do I need to use loki or safestrap? Which one should I use?
•To use Hyperdrive RSL20 do I need to downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2? Can I even?
•If Hyperdrive isn't an option for me, how exactly should I go about flashing something like Goldeneye? I'm a little confused on the process at this point with both loki and safestrap. I tried the newest version of safestrap for NJ4 apparently but the rom slots apparently aren't working yet for that version and I wasn't sure if it was wise to flash over the stock rom slot. Kind of confused on this whole thing.
I'm not asking for fleshed out guides or anything as I can find those myself. Just kind of need some clarification on these things for the tl;dr version-
•Being on 4.4.4 locked bootloader, if I want to flash a 4.4.2 rom, do I need to downgrade? Can I even?
•Should I use loki or safestrap? In order to use safestrap in my case it looks like I"ll have to downgrade either way, is this correct?
I thank everyone for taking their time to read through this.
Also mods, I apologize if this is in the wrong area.
Read the first few posts of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221. That should give a lot of valuable info.
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I'm still unclear on a few things I guess.
I've read that thread over and over before it was linked, and read it a few times again.
I realize being on NJ4 that if I use safestrap, I have to flash the stock rom slot and it must be a touchwiz rom. Got that. What I really want to know at this point is that are 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 roms interchangable? For instance- I'm on 4.4.4 nj4. Can I flash hyperdrive which is a 4.4.2 rom?
If not and I have to downgrade, is it even possible for me to downgrade being on a locked bootloader?
Edit: Well I just bit the bullet and downgraded to 4.4.2 via odin, did full wipe with safestrap etc, and got the hyperdrive rom up and running. A little disappointed as I was hoping to get a better antutu score but it was the same score I got with stock nj4 rom that I debloated myself. Meh. I guess I might give goldeneye a shot.
Bump! I'm in the same situation
After playing around with all that Hyperdrive rom had to offer as well as ktoonz kernel and overclocked profiles, I made the jump to a custom Lollipop rom ultimately for the performance upgrade of Lollipop's ART system. After seeing the difference I really see no reason to go back to kitkat at this point. I've been using the 5.0.1 Goldeneye rom and like it so far. I just have a few kinks to work out but overall it's been good. I'd like to get a 5.1.1 rom on this but alas I don't think I've come across a safestrap compatible one yet.