root before or after 7.0 ota? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My mxpe is the first phone I haven't unlocked and rooted right away (I've been learning this stuff since my HTC Aria and froyo).
Question: with the new challenges rooting Nougat, would it be wiser to unlock and root now (I'm on stock 6.0) and wait for a flashable zip of Nougat, or wait and take the OTA when it comes and then root?
When I rooted my moto x2 I did so after taking the OTA to 6.0 and it was fine. I understand the systemless root for N is more complex.
Thoughts?

I literally just got one of these. I'm back with Moto after getting pissed off at LG.
I'm thinking I'm going to wait and see. I love the near stock experience with this phone I almost don't need root right now.

Unlocked boot loader wont matter unless lenovo locks the bootloader again without letting you unlock it. The thing about N being harder to root is for phones with locked boot loaders who cant just run full custom recovery...

See, there really isn't a reason not to (TWRP flash a pre-rooted ROM when N comes out if bad comes to worse). Still, N will not make it more/less rootable, so waiting is an option.

Screw it...I just unlocked the BL and rooted then installed one of the tweaked debloat Roms. Lol....didn't take me long to decide.

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G900V from 4.4.4 to most current version with root?

Looked thru the other threads, and didnt see anything that pertained directly perhaps someone can point me in the right direction.
Have my stock S5 from verizon, on 4.4.4 NK2 firmware. Looking to update to whatever is the most current stock firmware with root. I'm coming to this from years of rooting Sprint devices, this is my first Verizon and I've been putting it off forever. Been getting the nag screen everyday now for a software update and I figured it was the time to update this and get myself root.
Thanks in advance for any help in where to look. Please forgive me in advance if this is a duplicate, I searched...I really did, but since its all new to me I wanted to ask.
Looks like the process is to flash 4.4.2, root, check if bootloader can be unlocked, and then proceed 2 different ways if it can be dev bootloader unlocked. If it can, unlock bootloader, flash twrp, and then flash whatever rom you want. If you can't unlock the bootloader, folow the guides to upgrade keeping root with safestrap and use roms that are TW for locked bootloaders. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I just got a 4.4.4 g900v myself in a trade and I'm figuring out how to proceed as well.
Ok, slight difference. You can root & check the bootloader from 4.4.4...
Root here (Using NCG stock kernel...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver.../safely-upgrade-root-4-4-4-nha-volte-t2879348
If you're having trouble finding the NI2 kernel like I did it's here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
Then use the method bootloader unlock from method 3 here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
If you can unlock your bootloader (I could), then flash the bootloader of choice from that link above to correspond to the rom you want. I'll be trying out Phoenix with pd4 (installed from above link) from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/port-phoenix-rom-v12-0-t3400292

HTC M8 The Legend and how to Upgrade!

Hello guys i decide to open this new thread to ask a few question to clear this out for myself since it last before long time i almost forgot everything.
I bought my m8 imideately after the release and till now NO other device grab my attention in design hardware Sound and etc. So after years of use i drop it several times u know... and i start to have problems sometimes losing signal sometimes when making a call its a bad ass people dont hear my sometimes i dont hear them or the call just drops etc also several sratches.
Anyway i decide to get A NEW M8 second hand in fully working condition in perfect shape without any sings of use. becuase i really love this device.
The previous one was HTCdevs unlocked then Rooted then S OFF with firewater and right now is still runing the latest S.Team ROM
The "New One" that i bought is with Stock Software, Firmware S-ON all is super stock.
As far as i read i cannot S OFF it anymore like before i did with my previous M8 with firewater.
What i can do in order to be able to flash a custum Firmware?
I don`t know what is best for the phone... because i did update my old device from day 1st till now with every new release of Android or Firmware.
Like i say the new one is super clean Stock
Can i jump directly to the latest Android 6 Custum ROM i want?
what i shold do 1st?
HTCdev then ROT and S-OFF?
if i change the motherboard of with the old one that is fully unlocked this will grand me all benefits of S OFF?
For example i want to go all the way from Pure Stock Android 5 lets says to latest Custum S.Team ROM
what i should do best?!
Thank you in advance
I'll answer some of these questions
1. Firewater no longer works, you have to use sunshine now to s-off.
2. To get the newest firmware just update to newest version through OTA, make sure you got locked bootloader. After that you can do whatever you want - unlock bootloader, flash roms, s-off, etc.
If you have a few bucks to spend, you can S-Off your device, but in my case, I have this phone 3 years already and still S-On and have flashed numerous custom ROM's already and I'm happy with it. ?
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tsalta said:
Can i jump directly to the latest Android 6 Custum ROM i want?
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As long as the phone is currently on Marshmallow, then yes just unlock bootloader, flash TWRP 3.1, and flash the desired ROM.
tsalta said:
if i change the motherboard of with the old one that is fully unlocked this will grand me all benefits of S OFF?
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Unless you are really skilled with that sort of thing, I'd leave it well enough alone. I've seen a lot go wrong with taking the phone apart. So you risk ruining a brand new phone, for no good reason. Spend the money for sunshine, if you need s-off for a specific reason. But you don't even need s-off for flashing ROMs, firmware, or most other mods.
I'm in the same boat. I just bought an carrier unlocked brand new M8 because.....well....I love this phone. I too have had my current M8 since release but now the charging usb port is acting up. I'm very interested in rooting my new M8. I never did my current one.. My new phone is coming with Android 4.2 I think. Should I I OTA it as soon as it comes in or unlock the bootloader etc flash TWRP before and the just flash a custom ROM?
Saleen28 said:
I'll answer some of these questions
1. Firewater no longer works, you have to use sunshine now to s-off.
2. To get the newest firmware just update to newest version through OTA, make sure you got locked bootloader. After that you can do whatever you want - unlock bootloader, flash roms, s-off, etc.
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I was rooted, unlocked bootloader with s-off. I went back to stock and got all OTAs. So, is locked bootloader necessary?
theandies said:
My new phone is coming with Android 4.2 I think. Should I I OTA it as soon as it comes in or unlock the bootloader etc flash TWRP before and the just flash a custom ROM?
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You should OTA and update to Marshmallow before unlocking the bootloader.
Especially if it comes with 4.3 (or anything before Lollipop Android 5), the firmware won't be compatible with the current ROMs, and you will be stuck with issues like no boot, no WiFi, etc. Also, the current TWRP versions will not be compatible with older firmwares.
So short story, you must update in order to flash current ROMs.
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ramsabi said:
I was rooted, unlocked bootloader with s-off. I went back to stock and got all OTAs. So, is locked bootloader necessary?
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Unlocked bootloader is okay for OTA updates. However, you will need to restore a stock never rooted ROM (unrooted will work - OTA will fail) and stock recovery in order to OTA update.
Rooted ROM will cause OTA to fail. Custom recovery will cause the update to get stuck, as it expects and requires stock recovery.
Return to stock ROM and stock recovery with using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
And to be clear, there are no updates beyond Marshmallow for this device.
redpoint73 said:
Unlocked bootloader is okay for OTA updates. However, you will need to restore a stock never rooted ROM (unrooted will work - OTA will fail) and stock recovery in order to OTA update.
Rooted ROM will cause OTA to fail. Custom recovery will cause the update to get stuck, as it expects and requires stock recovery.
Return to stock ROM and stock recovery with using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
And to be clear, there are no updates beyond Marshmallow for this device.
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I was rooted, with bootloader off, s-off with TWRP. Did not have stock recovery. Found my version of stock RUU here on XDA, thankfully, installed and received all the OTA's. Am now Android 6.0, HTC Sense 6.0 Software Number 6.12.1540.4.
ramsabi said:
I was rooted, with bootloader off, s-off with TWRP. Did not have stock recovery. Found my version of stock RUU here on XDA, thankfully, installed and received all the OTA's. Am now Android 6.0, HTC Sense 6.0 Software Number 6.12.1540.4.
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Stock recoveries are posted on the guide I linked. But yes, RUU is a valid method as well to return to stock and/or update. On that note, you could have just RUU'ed up to any version, and not done any OTAs. Marshmallow RUU's for US versions (which yours is) is a slight exception, where you have to flash the 6.12.1540.4 firmware using fastboot, then you can run the 6.12.1540.4 RUU.
No need for s-off to flash a custom ROM/kernel. Just unlock via htcdev, flash twrp recovery via adb, be sure the zip of the new rom is on the internal memory/sdcard, flash it, done. I recommend leedroid + clumsy kernel or ice + clumsy(on ice keep in mind that sometimes it freeze on boot htc logo around the first few restarts, hard restart it and it should be fine, if it's not - clean only cache via twrp and it will boot normal from there on).
I received my new phone, installed the AT&T sim but when I try the OTA system update all it does is say "checking". Can I manually update via PC? What update package should I download from htc?
The phone is currently on Android 4.4.4 htc Sense 6.0 Software # 3.28.401.6
theandies said:
I received my new phone, installed the AT&T sim but when I try the OTA system update all it does is say "checking". Can I manually update via PC? What update package should I download from htc?
The phone is currently on Android 4.4.4 htc Sense 6.0 Software # 3.28.401.6
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Question has been addressed here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/carrier-unlocked-gsm-m8-t3598115

OnePlus 2 OTA updates with unlocked bootloader question.

Hello fellas. I intend to sell my OP2 as i have purchased another device. I had been rooted with custom roms for the past year. Today i flashed the latest stock rom (OOS 3.5.8) and flashed back to stock recovery. I made sure everything works but i do not know if i should lock the bootloader again. My question is: Will the OTA updates work normally with the bootloader unlocked? Or should i lock it again to make sure?
Yes you'll get OTAs with unlocked bootloader
Good to hear, wouldn't want to sell a phone that wont recieve working OTAs lol. Thanks for your reply.

Back to stock

Hi i hope one of you more technical people can help me out. I would like to return my moto x force back to stock after running Lineage os on it because I need to sell it. I have flashed the stock MM once before in fast boot and managed to achieve this but I was unable to relock the bootloader. How can I flash the stock rom and also lock the bootloader so that the person who buys the phone gets the chance of the next OTA update for Nougat when it eventually arrives. Thanks in advance for reading.
Unlocked bootloader suppose be not a problem for OTA.
but how do i relock the bootloader properly in order to get any future update?

proper way to upgrade rooted ls977 to stock based oreo

Hi guys, my Sprint ls977 v20 is rooted on an old stock rom zvc or something with dirty Santa. Still has the old glitched up boot screen.
I want to upgrade to oreo stock based. I'm okay losing root. I cant find any guide for how to do this as there is no back to stock recovery for sprint. Any pointers on how to flash it without brick? I'm okay keeping twrp of I need to but won't cry if I have to lose it.
ajamer said:
Hi guys, my Sprint ls977 v20 is rooted on an old stock rom zvc or something with dirty Santa. Still has the old glitched up boot screen.
I want to upgrade to oreo stock based. I'm okay losing root. I cant find any guide for how to do this as there is no back to stock recovery for sprint. Any pointers on how to flash it without brick? I'm okay keeping twrp of I need to but won't cry if I have to lose it.
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There is one thread on how to return from the DirtySanta bootloader to Sprint stock found here. However, over the last few pages you'll see someone having trouble getting it to work, so I'm not sure how straightforward this process is.
If your rooted LS997 is still in decent condition, then you might be better off just selling it (there are plenty of Sprint users out there who'd like to have a rooted LS997, even if it's restricted to Nougat) while buying another non-rooted LS997.
I have a Oreo-able ls997 on stock ZVD. I could trade if ya want. Would love a rooted backup instead if able.

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