My mxpe is the first phone I haven't unlocked and rooted right away (I've been learning this stuff since my HTC Aria and froyo).
Question: with the new challenges rooting Nougat, would it be wiser to unlock and root now (I'm on stock 6.0) and wait for a flashable zip of Nougat, or wait and take the OTA when it comes and then root?
When I rooted my moto x2 I did so after taking the OTA to 6.0 and it was fine. I understand the systemless root for N is more complex.
Thoughts?
I literally just got one of these. I'm back with Moto after getting pissed off at LG.
I'm thinking I'm going to wait and see. I love the near stock experience with this phone I almost don't need root right now.
Unlocked boot loader wont matter unless lenovo locks the bootloader again without letting you unlock it. The thing about N being harder to root is for phones with locked boot loaders who cant just run full custom recovery...
See, there really isn't a reason not to (TWRP flash a pre-rooted ROM when N comes out if bad comes to worse). Still, N will not make it more/less rootable, so waiting is an option.
Screw it...I just unlocked the BL and rooted then installed one of the tweaked debloat Roms. Lol....didn't take me long to decide.
Hello guys i decide to open this new thread to ask a few question to clear this out for myself since it last before long time i almost forgot everything.
I bought my m8 imideately after the release and till now NO other device grab my attention in design hardware Sound and etc. So after years of use i drop it several times u know... and i start to have problems sometimes losing signal sometimes when making a call its a bad ass people dont hear my sometimes i dont hear them or the call just drops etc also several sratches.
Anyway i decide to get A NEW M8 second hand in fully working condition in perfect shape without any sings of use. becuase i really love this device.
The previous one was HTCdevs unlocked then Rooted then S OFF with firewater and right now is still runing the latest S.Team ROM
The "New One" that i bought is with Stock Software, Firmware S-ON all is super stock.
As far as i read i cannot S OFF it anymore like before i did with my previous M8 with firewater.
What i can do in order to be able to flash a custum Firmware?
I don`t know what is best for the phone... because i did update my old device from day 1st till now with every new release of Android or Firmware.
Like i say the new one is super clean Stock
Can i jump directly to the latest Android 6 Custum ROM i want?
what i shold do 1st?
HTCdev then ROT and S-OFF?
if i change the motherboard of with the old one that is fully unlocked this will grand me all benefits of S OFF?
For example i want to go all the way from Pure Stock Android 5 lets says to latest Custum S.Team ROM
what i should do best?!
Thank you in advance
I'll answer some of these questions
1. Firewater no longer works, you have to use sunshine now to s-off.
2. To get the newest firmware just update to newest version through OTA, make sure you got locked bootloader. After that you can do whatever you want - unlock bootloader, flash roms, s-off, etc.
If you have a few bucks to spend, you can S-Off your device, but in my case, I have this phone 3 years already and still S-On and have flashed numerous custom ROM's already and I'm happy with it. ?
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tsalta said:
Can i jump directly to the latest Android 6 Custum ROM i want?
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As long as the phone is currently on Marshmallow, then yes just unlock bootloader, flash TWRP 3.1, and flash the desired ROM.
tsalta said:
if i change the motherboard of with the old one that is fully unlocked this will grand me all benefits of S OFF?
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Unless you are really skilled with that sort of thing, I'd leave it well enough alone. I've seen a lot go wrong with taking the phone apart. So you risk ruining a brand new phone, for no good reason. Spend the money for sunshine, if you need s-off for a specific reason. But you don't even need s-off for flashing ROMs, firmware, or most other mods.
I'm in the same boat. I just bought an carrier unlocked brand new M8 because.....well....I love this phone. I too have had my current M8 since release but now the charging usb port is acting up. I'm very interested in rooting my new M8. I never did my current one.. My new phone is coming with Android 4.2 I think. Should I I OTA it as soon as it comes in or unlock the bootloader etc flash TWRP before and the just flash a custom ROM?
Saleen28 said:
I'll answer some of these questions
1. Firewater no longer works, you have to use sunshine now to s-off.
2. To get the newest firmware just update to newest version through OTA, make sure you got locked bootloader. After that you can do whatever you want - unlock bootloader, flash roms, s-off, etc.
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I was rooted, unlocked bootloader with s-off. I went back to stock and got all OTAs. So, is locked bootloader necessary?
theandies said:
My new phone is coming with Android 4.2 I think. Should I I OTA it as soon as it comes in or unlock the bootloader etc flash TWRP before and the just flash a custom ROM?
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You should OTA and update to Marshmallow before unlocking the bootloader.
Especially if it comes with 4.3 (or anything before Lollipop Android 5), the firmware won't be compatible with the current ROMs, and you will be stuck with issues like no boot, no WiFi, etc. Also, the current TWRP versions will not be compatible with older firmwares.
So short story, you must update in order to flash current ROMs.
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ramsabi said:
I was rooted, unlocked bootloader with s-off. I went back to stock and got all OTAs. So, is locked bootloader necessary?
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Unlocked bootloader is okay for OTA updates. However, you will need to restore a stock never rooted ROM (unrooted will work - OTA will fail) and stock recovery in order to OTA update.
Rooted ROM will cause OTA to fail. Custom recovery will cause the update to get stuck, as it expects and requires stock recovery.
Return to stock ROM and stock recovery with using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
And to be clear, there are no updates beyond Marshmallow for this device.
redpoint73 said:
Unlocked bootloader is okay for OTA updates. However, you will need to restore a stock never rooted ROM (unrooted will work - OTA will fail) and stock recovery in order to OTA update.
Rooted ROM will cause OTA to fail. Custom recovery will cause the update to get stuck, as it expects and requires stock recovery.
Return to stock ROM and stock recovery with using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
And to be clear, there are no updates beyond Marshmallow for this device.
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I was rooted, with bootloader off, s-off with TWRP. Did not have stock recovery. Found my version of stock RUU here on XDA, thankfully, installed and received all the OTA's. Am now Android 6.0, HTC Sense 6.0 Software Number 6.12.1540.4.
ramsabi said:
I was rooted, with bootloader off, s-off with TWRP. Did not have stock recovery. Found my version of stock RUU here on XDA, thankfully, installed and received all the OTA's. Am now Android 6.0, HTC Sense 6.0 Software Number 6.12.1540.4.
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Stock recoveries are posted on the guide I linked. But yes, RUU is a valid method as well to return to stock and/or update. On that note, you could have just RUU'ed up to any version, and not done any OTAs. Marshmallow RUU's for US versions (which yours is) is a slight exception, where you have to flash the 6.12.1540.4 firmware using fastboot, then you can run the 6.12.1540.4 RUU.
No need for s-off to flash a custom ROM/kernel. Just unlock via htcdev, flash twrp recovery via adb, be sure the zip of the new rom is on the internal memory/sdcard, flash it, done. I recommend leedroid + clumsy kernel or ice + clumsy(on ice keep in mind that sometimes it freeze on boot htc logo around the first few restarts, hard restart it and it should be fine, if it's not - clean only cache via twrp and it will boot normal from there on).
I received my new phone, installed the AT&T sim but when I try the OTA system update all it does is say "checking". Can I manually update via PC? What update package should I download from htc?
The phone is currently on Android 4.4.4 htc Sense 6.0 Software # 3.28.401.6
theandies said:
I received my new phone, installed the AT&T sim but when I try the OTA system update all it does is say "checking". Can I manually update via PC? What update package should I download from htc?
The phone is currently on Android 4.4.4 htc Sense 6.0 Software # 3.28.401.6
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Question has been addressed here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/carrier-unlocked-gsm-m8-t3598115
Hello fellas. I intend to sell my OP2 as i have purchased another device. I had been rooted with custom roms for the past year. Today i flashed the latest stock rom (OOS 3.5.8) and flashed back to stock recovery. I made sure everything works but i do not know if i should lock the bootloader again. My question is: Will the OTA updates work normally with the bootloader unlocked? Or should i lock it again to make sure?
Yes you'll get OTAs with unlocked bootloader
Good to hear, wouldn't want to sell a phone that wont recieve working OTAs lol. Thanks for your reply.
Hello, I'm on the fence here.
Here I sit with my dear moto g4 play which I am about to root.
The only question standing in my way is regarding future nougat update (In case Lenovo actually releases it).
Below are my questions.
If I only root my phone now will I be able to get OTA once I restore the stock recovery?
I do not wish to try new roms but just have the root and be able to easily get future nougat update when it arrives, what would be the best way to do this?
So I really want to install a custom rom and I know I need to unlock the boot loader and flash it with twrp. But I been reading around here and it seems unlocking the bootloader on Oreo is not possible and the only way to do that is to downgrade to nougat... except I don’t really know how to do this on my device since as previously stated, the boot loader is not unlocked and I don’t know where the stock rom for nougat is even available to download from, or any necessary tools to download to be able to do this (I’m a complete noob). Some info of my device: A2017u, Oreo, B20
Help would be appreciated, thank you
I think you may need to go back to Marshmallow to unlock bootloader and install TWRP but I'm not on an A2017U so won't try to advise you.
I did revert my own A2017G from latest Oreo back to Nougat ok. Since gone back to Oreo. It seems to work when stock but once you meddle with it that's when all the problems start.
RobboW said:
I think you may need to go back to Marshmallow to unlock bootloader and install TWRP but I'm not on an A2017U so won't try to advise you.
I did revert my own A2017G from latest Oreo back to Nougat ok. Since gone back to Oreo. It seems to work when stock but once you meddle with it that's when all the problems start.
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