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Is it still worth buying the 6P?

Hello,
I'm currently using the OP2 and was Planning to Upgrade to the Pixel.
But at that price point and with those huge bezels it is not a valid option anymore.
The OP2 is okay atm, but for my usage the battery life is horrible.
So i was thinking about buying the 6P or the OP3.
The OP3 has obviously better Specs but after owning the OP2 and seeing how they handle "Old" devices i dont know if i want to still support them.
So at the current price point is the 6P still a good device to buy?
Or do you guys have any other Suggestions in the price range 300-800€?
Thank You

Yes yes and yes. I bought one for 340 euros few days ago. Nice screen good camera stereo speakers and a nice metallic build for this price is a no-brainer. I won't even mention you can get many Pixel candies running on the 6P plus custom ROMs availability and all the goodness you can find here in XDA.

I recently switched back from a Huawei Mate 8( Screen cracked) and couldnt be happier. Especially if you were interested in the Pixel. You can turn your nexus devices and many more into a pixel outside of camera.
I got a 128gb for around 400 graphite color. Phone is still a beast. Sounds weird but I have to get use to 4hrs of sot again.
It will hold its value a couple more months. Plently of phones releasing next few months also.

I already have a 32go 6P, and I am on the fence to get myself a 128go for travels when I cannot count on the cloud for backups. I use the camera a lot every day, and I guess traveling abroad more frequently makes this purchase adequate. I don't see any reason why I should buy a Pixel XL as the price of the 6P was already high last year. And I already have a oneplus 3 with the SD820 & uefs 2.0. Ok it is noticeable, fast and all but the 810 chip isn't that bad as it has been described. I remember reading from Anandtech that it was the best implementation of this chipset, and it is true. Yeah it has turned hot, at times of heavy usage, lot of photography editing and pictures taking, but that's expected. So... I'd still recommend one, at least, one gets a wonderful 5.7 inches wide screen plus two front facing speakers and soon the same features thanks to the XDA community.

intruda119 said:
I recently switched back from a Huawei Mate 8( Screen cracked) and couldnt be happier. Especially if you were interested in the Pixel. You can turn your nexus devices and many more into a pixel outside of camera.
I got a 128gb for around 400 graphite color. Phone is still a beast. Sounds weird but I have to get use to 4hrs of sot again.
It will hold its value a couple more months. Plently of phones releasing next few months also.
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At the end of the day how much battery do you have left with normal usage? (reply to messages, web and daily tasks)

droelfzehn said:
At the end of the day how much battery do you have left with normal usage? (reply to messages, web and daily tasks)
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Normal day would get me through a work day easily.
I am a heavy media/web user. On my off days easily 7am till 10pm(typically when I'm sitting still) without a charge.
My work days are what I test. Unplug at 6am stream music/podcast/YouTube from 9-6 off and on using bluetooth. Lots of regular everyday browsing and 1-2hrs of talk time. Normally last %15 around 6pm. Haven't died on me yet while out and about but I adjust my usage naturally.
My usage is heavier at moment, renovating a house so I'm non stop browsing looking for ideals and deals. Birthdays, trip upcoming and holidays so every things ramped up. Nothing beats the mate 8 but I get home with more battery than my wife's note 5 and she's on wifi while out.
As of now im at %54 with 2 hrs of sot. Phones been off charger since 5am.
I forgot about these damn speakers. I always forget to charge my lg headset and was doomed with previous phone. I put the 6p in a metal bowl and speakers are loud and clear with music.
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More then Ever. Get it.

It's a fantastic phone. Only one I've liked better is Note 7, and you can't go that route. The camera is really, really good, I think it lacks credit there because of previous Nexus phones. The rest is crazy ROM selection, mods that will bring you Pixel goodness at less price and nougat. What's not to like?
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The Nexus6P has a lot of longevity left in it! Happy flashing...

Yes it is. My old G3 died late last month and I replaced it with a 128GB P6. I couldn't be happier with it; and given the crazy price points on the Pixel, I'm glad the G3 died when it did.

I got mine on the note 7 recall day and im loving it! Almost forgot about the s-pen

So did you bought the nexus 6p?
I'm currently in the same situation as you. I'm getting tired of my one plus 2. Found one Nexus 6P for 300€ with light usage, and I'm seriously thinking in buying it. Should I go for it?

I also want to buy one but I'm afraid of bootloop and battery errors. Please advise me! Thanks so murch.

Pixel and Pixel XL let down.

Returning my Note 7 to BB today and just going to stick with my old Note 3 for now. I grabbed the N7 when the charge port in my N3 literally went up in smoke, even though I didn't really care for it or any phone on the market right now. Being on sprint network there really aren't many options for phones these days. I was looking at the pixel xl but it doesn't seem to work easily on sprint and I have to agree with everything in this video. Not mine - but seems pretty accurate really.

I took it as just another persons opinion, but he makes many valid points that can't be denied.
I was able to buy the charge port for my N3 for $5 and repaired it myself in 10 minutes. Believe it or not my N3 outperforms the N7 in every way except photo quality.
I wish everyone well with their pixel phones. Who knows, maybe someday I'll even end up with one, but I'm really hoping my N3 last until the next gen pixel and they add back the features they took away like dual front speakers, ois, micro sd slot, removable battery and larger screen. I realize removable battery may be gone forever, but it's more important to me than being able to submerse in water.

tigercranestyle said:
personally, i'd avoid vids with inflammatory, clickbait headlines from someone who obviously doesn't have the pixel xl (posted oct 11th). not sure how it's a "real life review".
edit: btw here's a pic of his youtube page. just screams legit, right?
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Yeah, that dude is simply mad about everything...

1. The bezels are there because when you hold the phone it puts the prime real estate at your thumb height. Otherwise you have to bend your thumb down and reposition the phone. Also gives you something to hold in landscape mode besides the screen.
2. O.i.s. not needed..eis is great. No moving parts to break.
3. Design is not copying the iPhone. iPhone copied HTC. Google it.
Love the phone and battery life is amazing compared to any previous Nexus. Easy upgrade from Nexus 6p, which I owned before this.
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I am on Sprint and it works fine. I preordered through Google and had to get a specific SIM card type from Sprint, but that's it.

lafinjack said:
I am on Sprint and it works fine. I preordered through Google and had to get a specific SIM card type from Sprint, but that's it.
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I'm also on Sprint, what type of Sim did they give you? I'm using the one from my HTC 10 currently and I can't seem to get mms and SMS to work correctly. Can you confirm that you can send texts over 160 characters in stock messenger?

if you are having problems with sms/mms, its usually due to an incorrect APN; check your settings and confirm they are correct

I've had the XL since Friday and I have to be honest, it's going back. I think Google really made a mediocre phone but released it at the perfect time. I still don't understand why everyone thinks this phone is so great and revolutionary.
I got this from Verizon as a replacement for my Note 7 and to be honest I was super excited about it because of Google Assistant. I was wrong to be excited. I don't see it being any more useful than what's already on every other Android phone when you say "OK Google" and in 6 months you'll be able to download the assistant onto any Android phone from the Play Store.
No microsd, no wireless charging, no waterproofing... why are we being charged so much for a phone that looks like the iPhone 5 plus? The bezels on a top and bottom are way too big for this phone (they are) and the two tone back of the phone makes it feel like cheap plastic, not to mention the antenna bands. Two years ago this phone would have been worth it, now it should really cost about half of what they're asking for it.
I have an iPhone 7 plus for work and I have an S7 Edge. Both are better choices but I'm going to keep the note 7, it seriously is the best phone I've ever used. I just hope it isn't my last.

wase4711 said:
if you are having problems with sms/mms, its usually due to an incorrect APN; check your settings and confirm they are correct
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The APN settings are not available for me and I've been assuming it's due to my Sim card. I can only update profile/prl. I think I'll head to Sprint tomorrow and see if I need a different Sim card. Crossing fingers

JarkMackson said:
I've had the XL since Friday and I have to be honest, it's going back. I think Google really made a mediocre phone but released it at the perfect time. I still don't understand why everyone thinks this phone is so great and revolutionary.
I got this from Verizon as a replacement for my Note 7 and to be honest I was super excited about it because of Google Assistant. I was wrong to be excited. I don't see it being any more useful than what's already on every other Android phone when you say "OK Google" and in 6 months you'll be able to download the assistant onto any Android phone from the Play Store.
No microsd, no wireless charging, no waterproofing... why are we being charged so much for a phone that looks like the iPhone 5 plus? The bezels on a top and bottom are way too big for this phone (they are) and the two tone back of the phone makes it feel like cheap plastic, not to mention the antenna bands. Two years ago this phone would have been worth it, now it should really cost about half of what they're asking for it.
I have an iPhone 7 plus for work and I have an S7 Edge. Both are better choices but I'm going to keep the note 7, it seriously is the best phone I've ever used. I just hope it isn't my last.
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I have seen some water proof videos on YouTube and the pixel was under water for an hour and came out with 0 issues other then the speaker being foggy. Even camera was fine. It's just not labeled with water resistance
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BaconSeeds said:
I have seen some water proof videos on YouTube and the pixel was under water for an hour and came out with 0 issues other then the speaker being foggy. Even camera was fine. It's just not labeled with water resistance
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Okay... but that still doesn't put it in the premium phone category. Also, there may be some long term damage to the phone.

JarkMackson said:
Okay... but that still doesn't put it in the premium phone category. Also, there may be some long term damage to the phone.
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Just get a LifeProof case phones sent supposed to be for swimming anyways all of these phones are rain resistant and spill resistant
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BaconSeeds said:
Just get a LifeProof case phones sent supposed to be for swimming anyways all of these phones are rain resistant and spill resistant
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I feel we're getting hung up on the waterproofing issue, probably the least important of the many with this phone. At least in my opinion.

JarkMackson said:
I've had the XL since Friday and I have to be honest, it's going back. I think Google really made a mediocre phone but released it at the perfect time. I still don't understand why everyone thinks this phone is so great and revolutionary.
I got this from Verizon as a replacement for my Note 7 and to be honest I was super excited about it because of Google Assistant. I was wrong to be excited. I don't see it being any more useful than what's already on every other Android phone when you say "OK Google" and in 6 months you'll be able to download the assistant onto any Android phone from the Play Store.
No microsd, no wireless charging, no waterproofing... why are we being charged so much for a phone that looks like the iPhone 5 plus? The bezels on a top and bottom are way too big for this phone (they are) and the two tone back of the phone makes it feel like cheap plastic, not to mention the antenna bands. Two years ago this phone would have been worth it, now it should really cost about half of what they're asking for it.
I have an iPhone 7 plus for work and I have an S7 Edge. Both are better choices but I'm going to keep the note 7, it seriously is the best phone I've ever used. I just hope it isn't my last.
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I don't understand, You said buy an iPhone 7 plus cause it's better. But iphone 7 plus doesn't have microad, wireless charging, bezels that are even larger than the pixel xl, and have just as many antenna bands. Looks is very objective, I agree that note 7, iPhone and s7 edge are all good looking phones, but I personally think the Pixel looks just as good.
So everything you criticized against the pixel, iPhone 7 plus are the same or worse. I will give you the water resistant part, that's about the only quality you mentioned that is better than the pixel.
I agree the note 7 is a pretty awesome phone, but good luck bringing it on a plane since it's illegal, and good luck getting support and updates since Samsung will do neither of those 2 things. I would hate to see someone discover some major bug and security threat with the note 7 and you will never get an update for it. Anyway enjoy your note 7, I myself will enjoy my pixel in 2 days.

klau25 said:
I don't understand, You said buy an iPhone 7 plus cause it's better. But iphone 7 plus doesn't have microad, wireless charging, bezels that are even larger than the pixel xl, and have just as many antenna bands. Looks is very objective, I agree that note 7, iPhone and s7 edge are all good looking phones, but I personally think the Pixel looks just as good.
So everything you criticized against the pixel, iPhone 7 plus are the same or worse. I will give you the water resistant part, that's about the only quality you mentioned that is better than the pixel.
I agree the note 7 is a pretty awesome phone, but good luck bringing it on a plane since it's illegal, and good luck getting support and updates since Samsung will do neither of those 2 things. I would hate to see someone discover some major bug and security threat with the note 7 and you will never get an update for it. Anyway enjoy your note 7, I myself will enjoy my pixel in 2 days.
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I wasn't really advocating specifically for the iPhone 7 plus, I'm really not much of an apple fan but you do get much more for your dollar. I hear you about the note 7, I think it really sucks that such an amazing phone had such a tragic end.
I really hope you do enjoy the pixel xl and post everything you like about it. I'm going to keep it for I think it's 30 days I have (with a Verizon business account) to give if more of a chance. Maybe it will grow on me or maybe I'm just honestly not using the assistant the way it was intended to be used.

JarkMackson said:
I wasn't really advocating specifically for the iPhone 7 plus, I'm really not much of an apple fan but you do get much more for your dollar. I hear you about the note 7, I think it really sucks that such an amazing phone had such a tragic end.
I really hope you do enjoy the pixel xl and post everything you like about it. I'm going to keep it for I think it's 30 days I have (with a Verizon business account) to give if more of a chance. Maybe it will grow on me or maybe I'm just honestly not using the assistant the way it was intended to be used.
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I'm not a big iPhone fan either, my wife uses an iPhone 7 so I occasionally use hers. I also used my dad's iPhone 7 plus for a day before giving it to him, didn't see anything it has that's better than the pixel. One thing I do like is the 7plus camera 2x zoom feature.
I just feel the pixel is getting some unfair treatment. Most people just can't accept the price, so they try to find reasons why it's not worth it. I really only see 1 or 2 things other flagship phones that actually is better. But then if you count in the unlimited storage for full size pictures and videos Google is giving you, and fast updates, those features alone more than make up for it.

I don't understand the point to this thread.
Trollololol

klau25 said:
I'm not a big iPhone fan either, my wife uses an iPhone 7 so I occasionally use hers. I also used my dad's iPhone 7 plus for a day before giving it to him, didn't see anything it has that's better than the pixel. One thing I do like is the 7plus camera 2x zoom feature.
I just feel the pixel is getting some unfair treatment. Most people just can't accept the price, so they try to find reasons why it's not worth it. I really only see 1 or 2 things other flagship phones that actually is better. But then if you count in the unlimited storage for full size pictures and videos Google is giving you, and fast updates, those features alone more than make up for it.
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But when your talking about paying more and getting less that is where the problem lies. I do agree with people about the water rating yes would be nice but not a necessity. The no ois is fine also.
But no sd card slot is googles way of trying to shove on line storage down our throat. Why should we use on line storage that is hackable and not secure.
Has no one read the reports of how most if not all the celebrity nude pics got hacked ? They are believed to be hacked from " the cloud " as these celebrities I doubt most gave them out or leaked them.
Also sd card storage is not only safer but it costs you no data use meaning not using high cost verizon data, and sd cards use way less battery power to access your files over on line storage.
Then there is the mono as in one speaker lol. Ok no front facing stereo speakers, but they could have copied the Htc 10 stereo speakers enabling the top speaker you use for calling to hear your calls on, which the audio would be so much better had they and louder. I highly doubt that Htc would not allow them to use that stereo speaker set up on the pixels.
Htc vs google is Htc saying sure google whatever you want we will make it happen lol.

I think the pixel is indeed overpriced. If it wasnt for the camera i would defintly go for a chinese phone.
I had a note 7, note 5 and a s6 before this, and the bloatware really hampers those phones.
Currently im on a huawei phone with only a 616 snapdragon and the os is way more reponsive than any of my samsungs.
So the pixel is my only real option to get a bloatware free phone with a flagship camera.
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dermotti said:
I think the pixel is indeed overpriced. If it wasnt for the camera i would defintly go for a chinese phone.
I had a note 7, note 5 and a s6 before this, and the bloatware really hampers those phones.
Currently im on a huawei phone with only a 616 snapdragon and the os is way more reponsive than any of my samsungs.
So the pixel is my only real option to get a bloatware free phone with a flagship camera.
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Like everyone else, I lament the demise of the Note 7 which in my mind was the best smartphone ever. I exchanged for the S7 Edge and though likeable, the VZW bloatware bogged it down. I also found it difficult to type on due to the curved screen edges and the keyboard felt a bit more cramped than Note 7 thanks to slightly smaller screen real estate: I made more typing/swyping mistakes. I did load the Unlocked firmware and what a difference it made as the phone was faster and battery improved tremendously. But, I did return it yesterday and my Pixel XL arrives tomorrow, so am keeping fingers crossed I like it. I can always return the Pixel and either wait for LG V20 or go back to Edge (but by that time we will be in November time frame and just a few months away from any Samsung newer Galaxy model) or continue using my 6P which still serves me well.

Wait for pixel 2 or buy U11?

So I'm currently a T-Mobile subscriber which is normally awesome until they declined to carry the u11. I currently have an S8 but I really don't like the 18:9 display and the battery life can be a little underwhelming some days. So I'm currently itching to jump to another phone and my short list has me at the U11 and the rumored pixel 2. Part of me wants to drop that pretty penny for the U11 (especially the solar red), but buying unlocked is not cheap as we all know. I love the design, boomsound, audio, camera, and middle of the road on software (it does look admittedly dated), but I'm skeptical about the size of the phone and the battery life (though I see some crazy numbers for those that rooted). I don't have the biggest hands but can manage a larger phone if it's well designed at least. This further brings me to the fact that the Pixel 2 is relatively close to announcement and I'm thinking there's a good chance it'll come to T-Mobile this year (but that's me speculating). Anyways, point is, I'm not a huge fan of my s8 and would like to move to the U11 or wait for the pixel 2. I like the OP5 but the lack of ois and weak video/audio recording quality pushes me away from it some. The Z2 Force's reliance on mods also really killed it for me... What are people's thoughts on this situation? Is the U11 worth the $600 now or should I wait for a phone that may or may not be on T-Mobile with similar specs and features with a smaller available screen? Any and all input is welcome, I'm very in the middle of the road here if you can't tell!

Grab the HTC U11 you will love it
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I haven't seen any indication that the Pixel 2 is going to be offered by T-Mobile.

xanadu1979 said:
I haven't seen any indication that the Pixel 2 is going to be offered by T-Mobile.
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I haven't either. I was just merely speculating honestly.

cheesyjif said:
I haven't either. I was just merely speculating honestly.
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Based on what though? Has T-Mobile ever offered a Google-made phone?

xanadu1979 said:
Based on what though? Has T-Mobile ever offered a Google-made phone?
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If I'm not mistaken, they had the Nexus 6. Maybe the Nexus One and 4 but don't quote me on that.
My speculation is simply based on the fact that the Pixel was an attempt to make a strong direct to consumer phone for enthusiasts and casual users. Releasing it on Verizon and unlocked may have been to just test the waters for a more widespread launch for the Pixel 2. If any other carrier will be offering the Pixel 2 aside from Verizon, my money is on T-Mobile since they had the promotion where they covered $325 if you bought an unlocked pixel and Google is probably going to want to look into making the Pixel 2 more available.
But again, it's speculation and expectations. Google could go back to selling only unlocked models once again like they've done before (Nexus 6 -> 6p; Galaxy Nexus -> Nexus 4). Or they'll do a larger launch. Who knows for sure.

People got this "big bezels" in their head so they follow the trend of saying this beautiful phone "looks dated" that is absolutely ridiculous. This beast is a beaut both front and back and I'd much rather be holding and looking at the front of the HTC U11 than the weird looking S8. It does not look dated.

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People got this "big bezels" in their head so they follow the trend of saying this beautiful phone "looks dated" that is absolutely ridiculous. This beast is a beaut both front and back and I'd much rather be holding and looking at the front of the HTC U11 than the weird looking S8. It does not look dated.
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I'm not too worried about bezels honestly. Just one hand usage.

cheesyjif said:
I'm not too worried about bezels honestly. Just one hand usage.
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Yeah I use the HTC wallet case so I'm used to two hand usage. It kinda sucks cause of the squeeze feature is much nicer without it but I like wallet cases too, especially the HTC Iceview. But as soon as I get a new good clear case I will ditch the wallet. Edge sense is really great for one hand usage especially with edge sense plus.

cheesyjif said:
I'm not too worried about bezels honestly. Just one hand usage.
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LibertyMonger said:
Yeah I use the HTC wallet case so I'm used to two hand usage. It kinda sucks cause of the squeeze feature is much nicer without it but I like wallet cases too, especially the HTC Iceview. But as soon as I get a new good clear case I will ditch the wallet. Edge sense is really great for one hand usage especially with edge sense plus.
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Did you root and flash your phone already? I would plan on doing that at some point but not sure when. How would you say day to day battery life is like pre-root, especially when using social media apps like Facebook, Snapchat, and what's app?

cheesyjif said:
Did you root and flash your phone already? I would plan on doing that at some point but not sure when. How would you say day to day battery life is like pre-root, especially when using social media apps like Facebook, Snapchat, and what's app?
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This is the first device that makes me feel like I don't need to root. Of course I did cause there are some simple things I miss and some of the edge sense plus features won't work without root but as far as optimization there is no need. This phone is so perfect it's unreal lol.

Honestly, this is a pretty biased place to ask the question. I love the phone, but I'm sure all the people on this forum do.
I guess it depends on how urgently you need a phone. In terms of strengths and weaknesses I'm pretty sure the Pixel and the U11 are going to be very similar. Maybe Pixel will be marginally better in terms of speed and battery life and U11's audio quality will be better.

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Based on what though? Has T-Mobile ever offered a Google-made phone?
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The first Android phone ever, the G1, was a T-Mobile exclusive and they carried the Nexus 6 as well. It's doubtful they will carry the Pixels though. T-Mobile pushes Samsung worse than any fanboy ever could so even if they were to get the Pixels, the stores would shove Samsung garbage down your throat. For both the M7 and M8, I had to make them get the phone from the back at one of the Denver stores, it wasn't even on display and the employees acted like they didn't have the M8 and suddenly a box was in front of me when I raised my voice in the middle of the store during lunch rush about where they could shove their Samsung phones.
As to the OP's question, I'd get the U11 personally. I have no complaints about this phone and I'm not even rooted. The battery life is ridiculous, the performance is ridiculous, and you get a lot for your money including the usonic headphones which are incredible for an in ear headset (I usually won't use them but these are comfortable, stay in, and the sound quality is stellar) and a basic case in the box. My only complaint is that 4x4 MIMO is only for Sprint but that's not a big deal since I'm rarely ever away from WiFi and I'm perfectly fine with the speeds I get when I am.
GSAM since July 9th:
Battery life: 17h 5m (8h 23m active)
SoT: 6h 45m (8h 6m max)
I play a ton of games so obviously I have zero complaints on battery life either.
I don't regret this purchase one bit, even with the interest I'm paying on my credit card for it. Hands down the best phone I've had.

EtherealRemnant said:
The first Android phone ever, the G1, was a T-Mobile exclusive and they carried the Nexus 6 as well. It's doubtful they will carry the Pixels though. T-Mobile pushes Samsung worse than any fanboy ever could so even if they were to get the Pixels, the stores would shove Samsung garbage down your throat. For both the M7 and M8, I had to make them get the phone from the back at one of the Denver stores, it wasn't even on display and the employees acted like they didn't have the M8 and suddenly a box was in front of me when I raised my voice in the middle of the store during lunch rush about where they could shove their Samsung phones.
As to the OP's question, I'd get the U11 personally. I have no complaints about this phone and I'm not even rooted. The battery life is ridiculous, the performance is ridiculous, and you get a lot for your money including the usonic headphones which are incredible for an in ear headset (I usually won't use them but these are comfortable, stay in, and the sound quality is stellar) and a basic case in the box. My only complaint is that 4x4 MIMO is only for Sprint but that's not a big deal since I'm rarely ever away from WiFi and I'm perfectly fine with the speeds I get when I am.
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Battery life: 17h 5m (8h 23m active)
SoT: 6h 45m (8h 6m max)
I play a ton of games so obviously I have zero complaints on battery life either.
I don't regret this purchase one bit, even with the interest I'm paying on my credit card for it. Hands down the best phone I've had.
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Holy crap that's incredible battery life!!!
Did you use power saver or anything?

cheesyjif said:
Holy crap that's incredible battery life!!!
Did you use power saver or anything?
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I let Boost+ optimize my games so they render at 1080p and I disabled News Republic but other than that, no. My 10 can't even come close to 6 hours with web browsing, forget about 8 with mixed usage and it has the same size battery.

One of my friends has always been on T-Mobile and he got his Nexus 5 from them. It didn't last more than a year it's sitting on my desk split open, the screen popped off of it from when he fell on it. It still works, I rooted it and flash a custom ROM for him but he hasn't picked it back up yet. Last Nexus I owned was the Galaxy Nexus and after owning nothing but HTC's since it brought back memories of how much they are cheap plastic. ***Edit I forgot, he actually kept it until they stopped updating it, that is why I rooted it for him.

Personally I wouldn't wait. The U11 is great, I personally returned my Pixel XL because it just wasn't that great compared to my 6P. I'm hopeful for the Pixel 2. But I'm not gonna hold my breath for anything amazing and figure I can always sell the U11 to make up some of the cost.

Nexus 6p to Essential!

Im really thinking about the Essental, its pretty much down to this or G Pixel 2 XL, , but the price point and features of the essential are way better, it looks better too, specwise they are very similiar.
I love Project Fi though , i pay only what use , so if my plan is $60 bucks but i only use $20, i pay $20, thats the thing about the Pixel, but at over a $1000 bucks it looks like the Essential with $60/ unlimited by Sprint is a better deal
Anyone else coming from 6P, ive been a Nitrogen rom guy since day one , i love the 6 p , but once you get the battery bug "25%" , the hardware fails quivkly and its time to move on , this is my second 6P ,
Also switching betweeen Sprint/tmobile/uscellular is really cool, however the best service abd what im on 99% of the time is Sprint anyway, its looking like the Essential is tge one
Im coming from.Nexus 6p, OnePlus One , Moto X developers, Note 2, S2 , Note and a few HTCs before that

Well camera is better in 6P and Pixel 2. More features in these phones, there are really no special things at all in essential. Don't get me wrong, i like that. Software is not mature enough, but the Oreo-beta seems Essential are going the right way. Lineage 14.1 is availible and its great. Lineage 15 on the way too. The size of the phone, and the overall quality of it is the best i've ever had! It's a great phone for the price and if price matters, this is a great alternative to pixel 2.

Get the essential phone. No regrats, YOLO swagin here on Oreo and magisk.
Don't get no ca ca lg made phone ?
I upgraded from the original ones one lineage and this phone is very similar in terms of software but very different, upgraded hardware.
Do you want something that already looks dated (pixel 2 or xl2) or do you want that flashy iPhone X look and save $500+ cash?
It's no brainer when you think about how fash technologies advance. Not worth the price and on top of that the stupid little issues they are having.
If I'm paying $1100+ for a phone it better be damn perfect and have the best build quality out there...the new pixels are not...get the essential

I moved from 6P to Essentials over a week ago originally due to the battery bug problem. I was tired of carrying around a battery pack and random phone shutdown at 35% battery. Disclosure, I'm not a techy or an enthusiast so my feedback from just a regular user's perspective. Overall, I'm very happy with the quality and price I paid ($450). I was looking at Pixel 2xl, LG V30 but the design/build with the attractive price point of Essential sealed the deal. The camera is pretty decent. I have no complaints about it. I sideloaded Google camera app and used both Essential and Google apps. I don't find much difference between the two. The pictures from Google app seem to be brighter but Essential app seem quicker to me. Battery is excellent but that's sort of a low bar coming from 6P with battery issue. Software-wise, I'm ok with not being on Oreo it didn't impact my daily use much and overall the softwares on the phones are ok. I think to me this is the best-looking android phones I have ever seen. The build with premium materials and the design look great and feel great in your hands. With the hardware spec not much different from Pixel 2 or LG V30 and the right pricing, I'm willing to compromise somewhat and I was extremely happy with it. Hope this helps.

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I moved from 6P to Essentials over a week ago originally due to the battery bug problem. I was tired of carrying around a battery pack and random phone shutdown at 35% battery. Disclosure, I'm not a techy or an enthusiast so my feedback from just a regular user's perspective. Overall, I'm very happy with the quality and price I paid ($450). I was looking at Pixel 2xl, LG V30 but the design/build with the attractive price point of Essential sealed the deal. The camera is pretty decent. I have no complaints about it. I sideloaded Google camera app and used both Essential and Google apps. I don't find much difference between the two. The pictures from Google app seem to be brighter but Essential app seem quicker to me. Battery is excellent but that's sort of a low bar coming from 6P with battery issue. Software-wise, I'm ok with not being on Oreo it didn't impact my daily use much and overall the softwares on the phones are ok. I think to me this is the best-looking android phones I have ever seen. The build with premium materials and the design look great and feel great in your hands. With the hardware spec not much different from Pixel 2 or LG V30 and the right pricing, I'm willing to compromise somewhat and I was extremely happy with it. Hope this helps.
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Same here. Came from a 6P. Did not get the first Pixel because the screen was 5.5 and that was too small for me. Got one of the first essential phones that came out. Had some bugs and they fixed it. Looked into the Pixel XL. Like the larger screen but the price is absurd when you get basically the same with the Essential. Running Oreo beta. No other kids, root or such. Phone works well for me. Camera is adequate for my needs.

Also came from 6P & I freaking love the Essential phone. The build quality is phenomenal and I can get by with the camera. Google didn't do it right to many issues with pixel 2. Go with Essential you won't regret it.

Came from a 6p as my battery was dying at 40% and I bought my phone from best buy instead of google so google could care less that their phone failed me. got the $160 deal on the phone from sprint and liking it so far way better battery camera is decent with the google app and is pretty snappy. the bugs can be annoying but i think it will be good once oreo is out of beta I Hope. really just happy I don't have to carry around my batter pack anymore.

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Im really thinking about the Essental, its pretty much down to this or G Pixel 2 XL, , but the price point and features of the essential are way better, it looks better too, specwise they are very similiar.
I love Project Fi though , i pay only what use , so if my plan is $60 bucks but i only use $20, i pay $20, thats the thing about the Pixel, but at over a $1000 bucks it looks like the Essential with $60/ unlimited by Sprint is a better deal
Anyone else coming from 6P, ive been a Nitrogen rom guy since day one , i love the 6 p , but once you get the battery bug "25%" , the hardware fails quivkly and its time to move on , this is my second 6P ,
Also switching betweeen Sprint/tmobile/uscellular is really cool, however the best service abd what im on 99% of the time is Sprint anyway, its looking like the Essential is tge one
Im coming from.Nexus 6p, OnePlus One , Moto X developers, Note 2, S2 , Note and a few HTCs before that
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I came from a 6P to and Essential PH-1.
I sent mine back but I was in the first wave of phones with the high price and all the issues.
I have a LG G6 but I'd trade the LG G6 to get a PH-1 again since most of the issues are resolved and accessories are available.
Also at $500 it's the phone bargain of the year.
The feel and form factor are great.
The Quality feels every bit as good as the iPhone X.
Also the XL is bigger and doesn't feel as good. YMMV
Also the XL costs almost double.
Unless the camera is your thing go for the PH-1.

I went 6p to Axon7(great device by the way) to Essential. All were good upgrades over the other. My Essential camera is just as good and really has taken some better pics than either of the devices before it using Gcam. Only thing I miss is the accessories as I'm a case and protector whore.

Go For It
Two 6P's and a Moto X developer phone also. Essential phone is now my daily driver with absolutely no regrets. I'm using Verizon's networkdue to location. Only reasons not to get this would be if you have to have Fi, or have to have headsets. Super quality build, camera on 6P is slightly better, screen is worse on the 6P. For size, imagine that just the screen on the 6P is the size of the whole phone. Battery is so much better. Underwhelmed by the overpriced new Pixels.

Sprint has you sign up never telling you they dont have the goddamn device in stock, they wait til you order it , then send an email that says were sorry its back ordered tough **** asshole , wont have any til christmas, but we are still charging you fees and the overnight shipping and anything else, thats piss poor

I canceled and gave my opinion of the way Sprint is f ucking people , they never mention anywhere that they dont have the phone instock and encourage you to use overnight shipping if you do it before 2 pm for $10 bucks, once you sign up, they send an email and blame the manufacturers of not having enough devices, if this was a first run fone id say ok , this fone came out in august, uts your fwult Sprint and lying to public is bull****

i have some experience of what you have so let me give my 2 cents.
i came from HTC M9 and Moto X Pure on Sprint. i still have my SERO-P Plan but instead i dont lease phones (because they make me switch my plan). I bought the Essential phone in the end of Oct. at best buy and im quite happy with it compared to the other two. At first, i had to return it because it would not activate on sprint and we couldnt figure out why. so i returned it and got another one. the other one turns out though was slippery like glass and overheated so i returned it... then after reading the XDA forums i noticed there is a heavier weight on the new ones so we weighed it before i took it. the new one is actually much more grippy than the last even with dry hands.
what i love about it:
first... the battery life. easily the best in battery life. i get 5 to 6 hours on a normal day of on screen time
fast android updates. the newest updates you have to take out your sprint sim, put a gsm sim and from there it will take the updates
the size, beauty, and weight
internet speed is pretty good too, thought gigabit speed is a hard time of getting actual confirmation from them. ive received on a few occasions 70+ mbps in my small town where ive gotten 30 last time with m9 and x pure.
the look is amazing and pure android is the icing on the cake.
bad things are:
camera is been improved since ive gotten it but still needs work. the issue ive experienced is the graininess.
sometimes i miss calls and texts (not sure if its sprint or the phone itself) but what i noticed is its pretty good compared to the m9 as far as bars go. the x pure was better in signal but it never got the speeds i got from this phone.
usb-c dongle but there is a 3.5mm mod coming for the phone soon from what i heard
response could be improved a bit
overall i will say go for it. despite the negative review... i still give it a 4.5 out of 5 because its andy rubin who knows how to tweak android anyway he feels like it and so far they did alot of improvement with just software updates. do a speed test with your 6p and essential and see for yourself. post a video if you can

Well im still up in the air , im not gonna use Sprint , i dont like being lied to, you dont start a relationship with a lie it never ends well, that being said, i dig the Essential and it is unkocked, just wish Fi would accept it, im also looking at the Pixel 2 XL and the Razer , seen another flagship killer called the Blackview S8 and id jusmp for a samsung S8+ , if the bl.was unlocked , i wont ever buy a locked boot loader unless it can be unlocked , thanks for the review that was what i wanted

I came for the 6P as well and I have no regrets. I do miss the camera on the 6P but I tend to still carry it around for the camera and mess with the os with new roms.
With the gcam port the essential takes some good shots.
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Two 6P's and a Moto X developer phone also. Essential phone is now my daily driver with absolutely no regrets. I'm using Verizon's networkdue to location. Only reasons not to get this would be if you have to have Fi, or have to have headsets. Super quality build, camera on 6P is slightly better, screen is worse on the 6P. For size, imagine that just the screen on the 6P is the size of the whole phone. Battery is so much better. Underwhelmed by the overpriced new Pixels.
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@gman2pi or anyone on Verizon's network. how is the data speed and connectivity? My 6P has been having the shutdown issue at 50% and i missed emergency calls text today.
Was so frustrated that I ordered a battery tried to replace it and broke the damn phone and need one ASAP.
My concern has been the thread with the connectivity issues that the phone is having and slow data speeds.

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@gman2pi or anyone on Verizon's network. how is the data speed and connectivity? My 6P has been having the shutdown issue at 50% and i missed emergency calls text today.
Was so frustrated that I ordered a battery tried to replace it and broke the damn phone and need one ASAP.
My concern has been the thread with the connectivity issues that the phone is having and slow data speeds.
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I've had no issues and get the same bar strength and performance as my 6P in my usual locations. I only use phone, text, and primarily e-mail and some downloads on their network. I don't stream much on cellular and don't use Verizon visual voicemail or their other "special features" so can't comment on that.

Thanks, button presses.
Now I'm kind of salty because i got an email from best buy where i could have gotten one with the camera for $500 and i did not pull the trigger.

Came from og pixel, earpiece speaker blew, then went back to my nexus 6.. then this.. battery life is insane..on verizon signal seems great though i have missed some calls.. not sure why.. but great build quality.. no regrets
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Currently have a 6P that I replaced the battery on. I am ordering the pixel 2 xl. It's a lot more money, but the video stabilization is so bad on the essential I couldn't buy it.

Regrets? Overrated?

So, i'm a noob to 1+ devices having got my 6T last November and it being my first 1+ device ever. Overall, I really like the device and it's definitely one of the best I've owned. I just don't feel it has lived up to all the hype. I have two lines and still use my Pixel 2XL and lately I'm finding myself liking my P2XL more than my 6T. Believe it or not I feel like my P2XL is faster and more fluid. Anyone else feel similar? I'm not trying to bash the 6T I'm just curious if anyone else feels like me.

Make sure you're on the latest firmware (9.0.11). The 6T OWNS the Pixel 3, let alone the 2, in just about every area except the camera, which gets better with every update. Give it a real chance, you wont be disappointed.

No regrets here. Absolutely love the 6T. My favorite device I've owned and I've owned plenty.

A little regret because I can benefit from its top specs at all. It doesn't support volte or vowifi in Canada.
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So, i'm a noob to 1+ devices having got my 6T last November and it being my first 1+ device ever. Overall, I really like the device and it's definitely one of the best I've owned. I just don't feel it has lived up to all the hype. I have two lines and still use my Pixel 2XL and lately I'm finding myself liking my P2XL more than my 6T. Believe it or not I feel like my P2XL is faster and more fluid. Anyone else feel similar? I'm not trying to bash the 6T I'm just curious if anyone else feels like me.
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I am kind of in similar situation.. I have Pixel 2 XL and bought OnePlus 6T.. Though 6T is faster, I feel my 2 XL is smoother and has better experience overall.. and man 6T kills my apps even after disabling all battery optimizations... I even miss voice calls and WhatsApp calls sometimes... Thinking of returning 6T

I had a P2XL previously and moved to a 6T in November. Unless things have improved lately, I found the 6T to be smoother for me. As stated by others, the only area I think the P2XL was better was in the camera, though I have been quite impressed by the pictures taken on the 6T for its price, especially with recent updates. I know we have the GCam port, but think it's still quite buggy. I would be very happy if somehow the HDR+ algorithm was integrated into the stock camera, though highly unlikely. No regrets here.

The obly regret is camera and camera app. The xamera app is so bad, no video recording options

Overrated imo, Price is too high now for what we get their is better value to be had elsewhere, Mi Mix 3 for example in UK it's the same price, Better Camera sensors/software, Better Display and wireless charging etc. OP3 was awesome for it's low price but OP6T doesn't live up to that, OnePlus hype is over for me probably my last OnePlus device.

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Overrated imo, Price is too high now for what we get their is better value to be had elsewhere, Mi Mix 3 for example in UK it's the same price, Better Camera sensors/software, Better Display and wireless charging etc. OP3 was awesome for it's low price but OP6T doesn't live up to that, OnePlus hype is over for me probably my last OnePlus device.
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Well said. The development for Xiaomi devices has been very good, I think that is what I will try next.

No regrets here either, have owned a lot of phones in the past and this one of the best if not the best. Miss wireless charging but the beast battery last forever.

Only had the 6T for a little over a month. Had the OnePlus one, but did not like it. Too many glitches.
They've improved a bunch. For the price, in my opinion, good bang for the buck!
I've owned a LOT of phones over the years. OP6T ranks right up there as far as I'm concerned.

Regrets? Most phones with this hardware are around 1000 euro. Almost every phone factory gets very greedy.

Well the fact that I got this phone for $280 bucks by trading in my s7 edge, I would say is the best deal for any phone I've ever had except for the HTC amaze which I got for free from staples 5 years ago. I would not have paid 580 as I have a brand new note 8 so it was just a back up. It's my 1st and I think it's nice, better then most at this price point.

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Regrets? Most phones with this hardware are around 1000 euro. Almost every phone factory gets very greedy.
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Don't forget OnePlus is a budget phone with flagship SoC, Storage/RAM only rest of the phone is just cut corners to keep the cost low.

Do you tend to own phones for more than two years? If not, you'll see the overall value and abilities OnePlus devices tend to offer over other devices in the fragmentation department. My OnePlus 3 was still going very strong and I only updated because I was a sucker for the 6T. But truthfully, I never had an issue with my 3 slowing down or developing faults. I can't say the same for any LG, Samsung, or Motorola devices I've owned. OnePlus failure rates are some of the lowest in the industry, and it's evident as to why if you see videos of their manufacturing process on YouTube (Linus Tech Tips and Unbox Therapy I believe).
Sure, other devices may have explosive features that OnePlus may not always include. But at what cost? For the price, stability, support and power that you get with a OnePlus is unmatched. The 3 is STILL getting updates and works great. But if you're someone who updates regularly, I can see why maybe you'd feel like you're missing out.

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The obly regret is camera and camera app. The xamera app is so bad, no video recording options
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You know, I thought the same thing but if you take the time to figure out the software its really not that bad at all. Coming from a Pixel 2 XL, I am content with these photos but it seriously took me some time to get used to the camera. Work on your focus, leave HDR on auto; you will be good.
No regrets here.

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You know, I thought the same thing but if you take the time to figure out the software its really not that bad at all. Coming from a Pixel 2 XL, I am content with these photos but it seriously took me some time to get used to the camera. Work on your focus, leave HDR on auto; you will be good.
No regrets here.
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I just cant stand those oil painting finish photos. Its app problem because on gcam photos looks much better, more details and no oil paint effect.
And i cannot use the stock camera app for movies. There are no settings or options. No focus lenght, no white ballance, no controls for manual control.

Well, if anyone cares I can say that the 6t has been the most awful phone I have ever owned. I literally now own a $700 brick. And OnePlus the company should be ashamed of themselves. I am fighting to get this phone running. And customer support has gone 100% silent on me. My last call, I got the perpetu-hold by the agent and I hung up after about 30 minutes of waiting for her to "consult a coworker". It's been so bad that I am trying to social shame them. I have a youtube post titled "Why my OnePlus 6T sucks and OnePlus Support is awful". I would link it, but I'm too new on the forum.
It's why I'm now on this forum trying anything I can to get this phone working.

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Well, if anyone cares I can say that the 6t has been the most awful phone I have ever owned. I literally now own a $700 brick. And OnePlus the company should be ashamed of themselves. I am fighting to get this phone running. And customer support has gone 100% silent on me. My last call, I got the perpetu-hold by the agent and I hung up after about 30 minutes of waiting for her to "consult a coworker". It's been so bad that I am trying to social shame them. I have a youtube post titled "Why my OnePlus 6T sucks and OnePlus Support is awful". I would link it, but I'm too new on the forum.
It's why I'm now on this forum trying anything I can to get this phone working.
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Well... Why did it stop working?

I have shifted from my iPhone 6s to Oneplus 6t. The main reason for the shift to Oneplus specifically in Andorid is the gestures it offers - switching apps, closing apps etc
After 1 month of usage, I believe Oneplus is the phone, if you want to get things done. Its fast, its battery is amazing. The reason why some people get annoyed is because its just too fast and for this reason it doesn't seem fluid. But trust me, using the iphone for years, I did enjoy the fluidic experience, however, I don't like it anymore and prefer speed, performance and battery life and Oneplus delivers on all these aspects. The teardrop notch and in screen fingerprint make the experience even better