What is the best ROM for everyday use?
This is a very generic question, and is open to interpretation. But since you're asking, I'm using:
AOSP Extended 4.6 Nougat v7.1.2 by @NFound (04-18-2018)
BeastMode kernel by @freeza
Data and cache formatted as F2FS
Jojoc tweak script
No GApps whatsoever installed except Play Store, but I do use MicroG as a replacement for Google Play Services
I don't use my A7 for gaming or media purposes, I have a gaming laptop for that stuff (but I'm not a music kind of guy, no interest whatsoever, i'm just weird that way)
I'm also using Substratum with a black theme, Xposed and various modules, and Phh's Superuser for root. None of that Magisk garbage for me. Average screen on time is 8 to 10 hours depending on my usage patterns. It's rock solid and has never crashed.
I've tried Oreo, Pie, Treble, etc, they are not yet stable enough for my needs. But maybe one day soon I will fully commit and make the jump, hopefully to an AOSP-based Pie ROM.
B14 custom stock from RONKS (nougat 7.1.2) or dotOS oreo 8.1.0
@AnonVendetta, nice. We have almost the same setup. Though I still multiboot on the Axon 7 my main ROM is AEX 4.6, Llamasweet kernel, SuperSU, microG, and Xposed. T-UI launcher rounding things out. No f2fs though.
There is no Magisk on any of my devices/ROMs. I need root, not aggravation.
Did hit a recent snag though. Out of the blue all of my overlays are disabled on boot. Not sure why yet. But yeah, this particular ROM/build hit the sweet spot.
LG G3 D851, Mahdi v2.9 ROM (4.4.4), microG (NoGApps), MultiROM, XDA Legacy
@marcdw @AnonVendetta I honestly want to know why you guys hate Magisk that much. if anything i'd like to steer clear of a root management app that's owned by some obscure Chinese company...
i get that you might not use modules though. it makes life much harder if you use yt vanced or V4A
was it stability problems or something like that?
Go with arrow 9.0 GSI
Stable and good customization options
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@[email protected] I honestly want to know why you guys hate Magisk that much. if anything i'd like to steer clear of a root management app that's owned by some obscure Chinese company...
i get that you might not use modules though. it makes life much harder if you use yt vanced or V4A
was it stability problems or something like that?
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I use Magisk. It's waaaaay better than SuperSU. Systemless modules make it way easier to experiment with and maintain mods such as V4A.
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@marcdw @AnonVendetta I honestly want to know why you guys hate Magisk that much. if anything i'd like to steer clear of a root management app that's owned by some obscure Chinese company...
i get that you might not use modules though. it makes life much harder if you use yt vanced or V4A
was it stability problems or something like that?
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SuperSU has been around for years. Not going to stop using it because Chainfire gave it up to some "obscure Chinese company" (some like to say "shady" for no apparent reason). The new owners haven't done anything with it anyway.
As you may know, I'm a multibooter (on three of four devices). Magisk hasn't been too friendly in that area. SU provides root on all ROMs without issue. I'm good. LOS root suffices also where/when available.
YouTube Vanced (root version) is on almost every ROM. Never needed Magisk for it so nothing hard on that end. The installer that raystef made awhile back is what I use on the Axon sometimes. Just update the contents every so often. On the other devices I just place it manually after flashing a ROM.
Can't say anything about stability since I don't use it but there sure have been lots of posts of Magisk headaches with each major version.
Hard to say why but I wasn't really a fan of systemless as a whole (Magisk or SuperSU). Held out as long as I could using the system mode zips that were once available but a lot of Nougat ROMs wouldn't boot.
Anyhind, Magisk doesn't fit in with the way I do things I guess.
LG G3 D851, Mahdi v2.9 ROM (4.4.4), microG (NoGApps), MultiROM, XDA Legacy
@Choose an username...: You've asked me this before. If I have to say again why I have disdain for Magisk, then I will launch into a long-winded academic dissertation. So let's spare everyone that and say, yeah, it was stability problems. Massive ****ing stability problems, with every release I tried. And it's slower than molasses flowing uphill on a cold day in hell. The lag is unbearable, no matter what ROM/device I tried it on. And it induces weird little quirks/bugs that weren't otherwise present.
Long story short, I don't entirely hate Magisk, @topjohnwu had good ideas, like systemless modding. But in practice it has proven to be a serious headache to work with. Something might work well in an ivory tower, but when it enters the real world, that is the trial by fire. And it doesn't pass my tests of what is acceptable.
I'm an old school root kind of guy, I like to have my su binaries in the system partition. I need all my root-enabled apps to "just work". I don't care about passing SafetyNet. And honestly, nearly any systemless Magisk mod can be implemented directly into the system partition without Magisk. And that's the way I like things.
Oh yeah, one more thing, open source doesn't necessarily mean something is secure. SuperSU may be closed source, and owned by a Chinese company, but as @marcdw has pointed out, they have done nothing with it, and they have also done nothing to prove themselves untrustworthy.
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SuperSU has been around for years. Not going to stop using it because Chainfire gave it up to some "obscure Chinese company" (some like to say "shady" for no apparent reason). The new owners haven't done anything with it anyway.
As you may know, I'm a multibooter (on three of four devices). Magisk hasn't been too friendly in that area. SU provides root on all ROMs without issue. I'm good. LOS root suffices also where/when available.
YouTube Vanced (root version) is on almost every ROM. Never needed Magisk for it so nothing hard on that end. The installer that raystef made awhile back is what I use on the Axon sometimes. Just update the contents every so often. On the other devices I just place it manually after flashing a ROM.
Can't say anything about stability since I don't use it but there sure have been lots of posts of Magisk headaches with each major version.
Hard to say why but I wasn't really a fan of systemless as a whole (Magisk or SuperSU). Held out as long as I could using the system mode zips that were once available but a lot of Nougat ROMs wouldn't boot.
Anyhind, Magisk doesn't fit in with the way I do things I guess.
LG G3 D851, Mahdi v2.9 ROM (4.4.4), microG (NoGApps), MultiROM, XDA Legacy
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@Choose an username...: You've asked me this before. If I have to say again why I have disdain for Magisk, then I will launch into a long-winded academic dissertation. So let's spare everyone that and say, yeah, it was stability problems. Massive ****ing stability problems, with every release I tried. And it's slower than molasses flowing uphill on a cold day in hell. The lag is unbearable, no matter what ROM/device I tried it on. And it induces weird little quirks/bugs that weren't otherwise present.
Long story short, I don't entirely hate Magisk, @topjohnwu had good ideas, like systemless modding. But in practice it has proven to be a serious headache to work with. Something might work well in an ivory tower, but when it enters the real world, that is the trial by fire. And it doesn't pass my tests of what is acceptable.
I'm an old school root kind of guy, I like to have my su binaries in the system partition. I need all my root-enabled apps to "just work". I don't care about passing SafetyNet. And honestly, nearly any systemless Magisk mod can be implemented directly into the system partition without Magisk. And that's the way I like things.
Oh yeah, one more thing, open source doesn't necessarily mean something is secure. SuperSU may be closed source, and owned by a Chinese company, but as @marcdw has pointed out, they have done nothing with it, and they have also done nothing to prove themselves untrustworthy.
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well, the chinese guys made a build that had some pretty serious problems (i recall a couple hard brick reports), then had to apologize and made another one. it's not like they didn't do anything with it.
I get it though. i'm not trying to argue or anything. I guess you (@AnonVendetta) use F2FS? Even the f2fs loopback module doesn't fix all the problems usually
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I refuse to update to Nougat because I love xposed too much.
What ROMs are you currently using with xposed? I've been recently switched over to hydrarom and it's been really good so far.
Thanks
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I'm still on MM for the exact same reason. And better battery life.
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I'm still on MM for the exact same reason. And better battery life.
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What rom are you using?
Sent from my S7 Edge+Rooted+Xposed
Efficient 3.4
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What carrier are you on? Was it easy to root and install xposed?
I will stay forever on mm because Xposed and Best battery life.
Always on stock rom.
Just noticed this old thread. I've been on Nougat a few times but keep coming back to Marshmallow. For me it just seems more stable and the battery life is better. Not to mention full compatibility with Xposed, in particular Xprivacy.
I'm running The Galaxy Project's final Marshmallow release with Magisk, Xposed and no issues. I don't think I'll upgrade unless an alternative to Xprivacy comes along that doesn't need Xposed.
I'll have to move on eventually of course, my phone is now nearly 2 years old and won't last forever despite being in near mint condition. And Google seem determined to become a mini-Apple in terms of privacy invasion and a seeming creeping "our way or the highway" attitude. It makes me sad when I wonder where Android will end up, especially when you consider their initial intentions and how well it all started back in 2008. There is less user control with each release.
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Just noticed this old thread. I've been on Nougat a few times but keep coming back to Marshmallow. For me it just seems more stable and the battery life is better. Not to mention full compatibility with Xposed, in particular Xprivacy.
I'm running The Galaxy Project's final Marshmallow release with Magisk, Xposed and no issues. I don't think I'll upgrade unless an alternative to Xprivacy comes along that doesn't need Xposed.
I'll have to move on eventually of course, my phone is now nearly 2 years old and won't last forever despite being in near mint condition. And Google seem determined to become a mini-Apple in terms of privacy invasion and a seeming creeping "our way or the highway" attitude. It makes me sad when I wonder where Android will end up, especially when you consider their initial intentions and how well it all started back in 2008. There is less user control with each release.
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Xposed on Nougat exists. I tried installing it once and the phone became sluggish as hell
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Xposed on Nougat exists. I tried installing it once and the phone became sluggish as hell
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I know it exists. But it doesn't work well and doesn't support my most important module, XPrivacy.
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I know it exists. But it doesn't work well and doesn't support my most important module, XPrivacy.
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Xposed works great on Nougat. I am running BatMan ROM with systemless Xposed. XPrivacy got discontinued but there is a successor for 6.0+.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663
It only works great if you're running modules that fully support Nougat Xposed, otherwise it slows Android down and can cause FCs and even reboots. And there is no point in running Xposed if you can only run modules you're not interested in.
But for me, unless it can run Xprivacy it's a non-starter even if everything else runs perfectly. And the author of Xprivacy has made it clear he has no interest in updating the module for Nougat as it would take too many man hours and he believes Xposed in general doesn't have a long term future.
EDIR - as for XprivacyLUA, it's a good start but that is all it is at this time. It offers very little in the way of restrictions. Hopefully that will slowly be improved.
I have unlocked my bootloader, rooted with Magisk and flashed AsopExtended Rom. Very happy with the performance of my A2017U as it is right now. My question to ya'll is, What would be the pros and cons of returning to complete stock (for OTA updates) or sticking with rooted and custom rom and not being able to receive OTA updates?
whats the question here? Its on you... what you prefer
Lol that depends of your needs - I stick to stock because of audio (mostly) and somehow bcz of camera (as far as I know you can install stock camera app).
That's question is a little bit irrevelant when you was stock and now you are testing custom rom.
So the answer is simply - replay to your question by yourself and with margin to your needs.
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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Yeah, I finally went back to stock B25 via the DrakenFx method to retain root and custom recovery. I came across the phone bug on my custom rom and that helped me make my decision to go back to a stock rom.....
Yep, used custom ROMs from the first week of owning the phone until about a month ago when I went back to B25 with Magisk. Couldn't be happier.
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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I think you simply have to flash the univ bootstack and your modem file to install RDX, it just wasn't tested on other phones but the A2017. but yeah, just use ADM Team
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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what's the downside of having it rooted?
Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Magisk then...
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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i was using the old release with version 5 (ADM Team V3)
I would stick with stock unless you are an extreme power user. ZTE fixed 99% of the issues with MiFavor with 7.1.1 and custom ROMs are littered with SO MANY little bugs. MiFavor is extremely stable now. Audio and camera is also much worse on custom.
But hey whatever you prefer.
So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.
I haven't touched a custom ROM yet and I've been really happy with OxygenOS!
I'm on stable 9.0.13 and active drain seems good but idle drain, not so much. I lose about 10%-14% overnight...
Wasn't the case on .12 and your results may vary on that.
For theming I use substratum and it works pretty well!
I'd like to try custom ROMs but I'm a heavy Tasker user and my profiles now heavily work with OxygenOS. I'd have to do a lot of modifying to get working well with AOSP.
Also, I've read about small bugs like choppy display corners and buggy fingerprint reader on custom ROMs as well. Not trying to bash any custom ROM, just explaining why I have stuck with OxygenOS.
I am strongly considering going to Open Betas though, as updates seem more frequent and security patches are more up to date there as well. I opened up a thread asking about the stability of Open Beta and its all been positive!
Hope this helps.
International ROM plus xXx is and root is nice place to start.
You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
Other than that, the best battery would be .11 if you don't mind the security patch. Just use that + Magisk and you can't go wrong.
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So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
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I like Oxygen OS. If I were making a custom ROM it would be just like OOS.
I am confident OOS will suite your needs and meet your requisites.
shmykelsa said:
So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.
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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.
I'm a big advocate of stock ROMs + root
Most ROMs can get buggy, not dexopt apps etc
Stock is smooth and works perfect.
Add magisk and win
tech_head said:
Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.
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I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?
flbenini said:
You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
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Sure I know, but I really need to change my phone because it's pretty old, and found a good offer for the 6T, so I just went on and bought it :good:
tech_head said:
Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
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Thanks for the feedback, I made a research about EdXposed, but I'm not really into Xposed because I often rely on Google Pay
Causical said:
I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?
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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.
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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.
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Is there something beyond the repository in the main app?
I've been on stock Pie ROMs for a bit now, basically since I got my 6t...I'm toying with the idea of going to OOS. But not seeing any custom ROMs based on OOS. Am I not seeing them or do they not exist??
Floridaplur said:
I've been on stock Pie ROMs for a bit now, basically since I got my 6t...I'm toying with the idea of going to OOS. But not seeing any custom ROMs based on OOS. Am I not seeing them or do they not exist??
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Most "OOS custom ROMs" are built into a magisk module, it's basically a set of tweaks but instead of flashing a full rom you just have to flash the magisk module.
There's renovate ice, oxytweaker, and nolimits (not sure if that's for the 7-7 pro only) and that's all I know of. I'm currently running renovate.
RomAur is the only non-Magisk OOS based custom ROM that I am aware of. Don't think it has been updated for a while though; last update was based on OOS 9.0.14 I believe. Like Joe199799 said, the only other custom OOS ROMs are flashable Magisk modules.
Sad to hear, but thanks for the answers guys!
Floridaplur said:
Sad to hear, but thanks for the answers guys!
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Actually making the roms magisk modules saves on flashing time, having to wipe data, reflashing kernels, and bootloop and brick chances. I too am using Renovate Ice
i've done a custom non magisk oos rom based on 9.0.16, also have the same mods applied to beta 16. neither of which i have shared. its not hard to mod oos. just have to do a few simple things to get oos ready for the modded files. however i dont plan to share these either as i have taken a few ideas from other roms without permission so they will remain for my use only. sorry all. i can tell you what you need to do to make modded files work but i wont share mine. just sharing info on the fact that it can be done without a full wipe. and without magisk.
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i've done a custom non magisk oos rom based on 9.0.16, also have the same mods applied to beta 16. neither of which i have shared. its not hard to mod oos. just have to do a few simple things to get oos ready for the modded files. however i dont plan to share these either as i have taken a few ideas from other roms without permission so they will remain for my use only. sorry all. i can tell you what you need to do to make modded files work but i wont share mine. just sharing info on the fact that it can be done without a full wipe. and without magisk.
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You could get permission.... I'm interested tho. When you say Modded OOS what Mods are we exactly talking about. xXx optimizes a few things. Renovate ICE adds Customization.
Mannan Qamar said:
You could get permission.... I'm interested tho. When you say Modded OOS what Mods are we exactly talking about. xXx optimizes a few things. Renovate ICE adds Customization.
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actually not really much as i really dont see the need to add all that much. i find stock oos pretty satisfying for my day to day needs. anyway. some build.prop tweaks, battery bar, 3minit battery, battery temp, extended vol panel, did some major graphic tweaks to aod, anim scale, totally redid network traffic, did some ringtones, notif and alarm tones i like, added a low and crit batt warning. debloated the hell outta it and added my own custon bootanim, also redid most of the fp icons and fp anims to a color scheme i like. like i said nothing major but enuff to satisfy my taste on a daily basis. may do some more. at the moment though i dont really want anything else as i am satisfied with it as is.
and no i wont request permission and post it. i have done many roms in the past and shared them freely only to have people complain they dont like something or demand something or just think there entitled. sorry but at one time i found doing roms extremely fun but got turned off by idiots who just dont respect what you do.
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actually not really much as i really dont see the need to add all that much. i find stock oos pretty satisfying for my day to day needs. anyway. some build.prop tweaks, battery bar, 3minit battery, battery temp, extended vol panel, did some major graphic tweaks to aod, anim scale, totally redid network traffic, did some ringtones, notif and alarm tones i like, added a low and crit batt warning. debloated the hell outta it and added my own custon bootanim, also redid most of the fp icons and fp anims to a color scheme i like. like i said nothing major but enuff to satisfy my taste on a daily basis. may do some more. at the moment though i dont really want anything else as i am satisfied with it as is.
and no i wont request permission and post it. i have done many roms in the past and shared them freely only to have people complain they dont like something or demand something or just think there entitled. sorry but at one time i found doing roms extremely fun but got turned off by idiots who just dont respect what you do.
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That's a lot. Sounds like a Pretty Good ROM. Any chance I can give it a go? I know what you mean by people being Disrespectful. But I'd seriously like to try it out. ANy way you can hook me up. Especially the AOD. I understand if you can't.
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That's a lot. Sounds like a Pretty Good ROM. Any chance I can give it a go? I know what you mean by people being Disrespectful. But I'd seriously like to try it out. ANy way you can hook me up. Especially the AOD. I understand if you can't.
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Sorry, but as stated before i will not share it, it is for my own personal use.
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Sorry, but as stated before i will not share it, it is for my own personal use.
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It's OK. I understand. TBH, I don't use OOS that much anyway.
Title says it all...is upgrading to Android Q worth it?
Currently running Sky Dragon ROM and the current build I believe is based off Android 9.0.13. I've been so pleased with it I haven't thought about flashing anything else until I saw we got a stable Android Q build.
I've read plenty of threads where users were having issues flashing and just GETTING to Android 10 on the 6t. Nevermind the issues I've seen with people who are on 10 with apps misbehaving, bugs, etc.
Just looking for honest mini reviews of the 6t's latest OOS experience before I embark on the journey of getting there.
So, those of you who have made the jump, is it really worth it?
Thanks in advance!
-Pain
There is no question of worth it or not, Pie support (security especially) is now dropped, you won't have a choice if you want to keep an up-to-date and secure device.
And problems reported only concern a minority a people. And now there is a fully working TWRP for A10.
I'd say it is worth it. There are many new features which make using the phone very convenient. I haven't faced any issues with the ROM itself, just some times magisk prompt won't appear when an app requests root. ROM is stable. Also installed radioactive kernel now its running even better. I clean flashed android 10, it is always better to clean flash such major updates.
In my experience, I have a stock T-Mobile variant, converted to international version. And updated to A10 and didn't last a week without wanting to revert back. All the bugs reported in other threads all happened to me. From random reboots (just twice happened), fingerprint animation staying on after unlock, some lag on the screen when scrolling, the loss of the Play store certification along with the GPay because of this. I just decided to revert back. Downloaded the full wipe downgrade which kind of soft bricked the phone but nothing the MSM tool wouldn't fix and now I'm back on 9.0.17. I'll just wait for a more stable release. For me at least I'd say it's not worth it yet...
I wanna say wait for the official OTA release. I see a lot of people are complaining about issues with the new update. But there are also people who are full satisfied with the update with no issues. If you are using your OP6T as a daily driver I would say wait for a week or two more to see if the new update drops officially and do that.
Definitely worth it. I've had one random slowdown (resolved with a reboot) and a single crash reboot where I got stuck on the boot animation and had to hard boot, but they're the only negatives. There's a bug with the haptic vibration on key presses being stuck on maximum, but the benefits are many - great battery life, apps open much faster, fingerprint reader and general UI responsiveness is much better.
For me it's worth it especially since the baked in swipe to go back into the os, I've been using 3rd party apps for that functionality since early days...
I think it is worth it specially once I figured out how to get root. I don't have twrp installed and not sure I need it. Battery is good and I really like the launcher. No need to install any themes at this point.
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Just flashed Twrp with Magisk works perfect.