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stock vs LOS. any advantages?

can someone who's using LOS comment on any advantages over stock? Now that we can install magisk and xposed on stock roms, is there any advantage at all to switch to LOS? How are the comparisons on battery life and speed?

Just got the phone couple days ago. I m not new to rooting and custom rooms. But I think it is better to stick with stock for now. At least for next 3-4 months imo. The phone already has Oreo and is very stable. Battery life is pretty good as well. Barely any lag, if any. I mean things just work and this is basically stock Android. IDK. Just my 2 cents. Unless something revolutionary happens in custom rom community I will be rocking stock for a while.

Generally people flash Lineage to get a more stock Android experience on their phones. The Essential already runs stock Android. The only advantage Lineage could possibly have while stock Android is still being updated on this phone would be whatever features Lineage offers that aren't included in stock Android. You can make the Essential faster by rooting the phone and flashing a custom kernel. You don't need a custom ROM to do that.
But there are significant disadvantages to installing Lineage on this phone. For one thing Lineage doesn't offer an official build for this phone. Unless something has changed over the last couple of days Lineage for this phone is only available as an unofficial build. That doesn't just mean no official support. Lineage doesn't sanction unofficial builds and there is no way of knowing if the build is poorly coded or not. Anyone can compile an unofficial build. You can watch a YouTube video and learn how to do it yourself. If someone making an unofficial build actually knows what they are doing there is a process with Lineage to make the build official as long as both the DEV and the build meet specific standards. Flashing an unofficial build of any ROM on any phone is a risk.
Then there is the fact that custom flashing on the Essential phone can reportedly lead to hard bricking the phone pretty easily. The a & b partitions make custom flashing a lot more difficult than on single partition phones and people with a lot of previous flashing experience have managed to hard brick their Essential phone within hours of taking it out of the box.
I don't personally think custom flashing on the Essential has enough upside to be worth the risk right now but it's your phone. Unless you don't mind turning your phone into a paperweight you should at least read the entire XDA rooting guide from beginning to end (including all of the comments from people who followed the guide) and also go through the Essential Telegram group which seems to be aimed at people who are flashing on the phone. That way you will have a good idea of what you are getting into and reduce the chances of bricking your phone.
Good luck whatever you decide.

Didn't flash lineage because heard about 360° isn't working so far...
For me an showstopper

AOSiP and Lineage run fine for me. Many bugs that need to be worked out, but they still run okay. Currently running stock however as I am trying to pinpoint what is killing my battery life. One day I am running great, the next I am leaking % left and right.

I can't stand stock rom at alllll. RR is the best the phone has ran for me. I can't stand the way touch works on stock, the scrolling feels like wading through molasses.
Plus true immersive mode. Honestly I see zero benefit to stock, but that's just my opinion.

RR is pretty far from the purpose and philosophy of LOS. LOS attempts to create a stock experience with some additional features. RR is for people who want to mod their phones with as many custom options as possible. I tried RR on my OP5 and wasn't a fan but I can definitely understand why someone who doesn't like stock Android would enjoy it. But the Essential phone is a terrible choice if you want to run custom ROMs. There's almost no development for this phone and I don't know if any custom ROM other than AOSIP even has an official build. If you want to run custom ROMs you would have been much better off with an OP5T. Not only are there a ton of official custom ROMs including RR but the phone is super easy to flash on and pretty much impossible to hard brick.

LOS runs smoother than the stock ROM and I it has more advantages.
LOS:
Immersive Mode : It's very easy to hide navbar and statusbar. That and an modded Youtube app and you are ready to really use the full screen. Not just till the notch.
It's very helpful in games too where you need apps or adb with the stock ROM.
Feel: It's just smoother and more responsive thant the stock ROM
Essential Apps works just normal
It has a few bugs like app dosen't start correct but stock rom can have that too and maybe it's just my installation.
Updater : You get many Updates and you can just download and install it in the background. Then you restart and you just installed an update without any waiting time.
Stock ROM:
It's official. You get updates that are suited to this phone and the softwar knows that there is a notch.

I'm on stock because all hardware works. I want full camera including 360 to work.

D4rk_nVidia said:
LOS runs smoother than the stock ROM and I it has more advantages.
LOS:
Immersive Mode : It's very easy to hide navbar and statusbar. That and an modded Youtube app and you are ready to really use the full screen. Not just till the notch.
It's very helpful in games too where you need apps or adb with the stock ROM.
Feel: It's just smoother and more responsive thant the stock ROM
Essential Apps works just normal
It has a few bugs like app dosen't start correct but stock rom can have that too and maybe it's just my installation.
Updater : You get many Updates and you can just download and install it in the background. Then you restart and you just installed an update without any waiting time.
Stock ROM:
It's official. You get updates that are suited to this phone and the softwar knows that there is a notch.
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If there was an official build of LOS there would be a lot fewer issues. The unofficial build is probably just the ROM code auto compiled for this device with no further tweaks or fixes. You can do the same thing with any open source ROM. Have you tried AOSIP? I would think that would run better since it's actually official. That was also a solid ROM when I ran it on other phones. Not a lot of features but very stable fast and smooth.
Is updating a custom ROM difficult on this phone? Do you need to reflash the stock system image and TWRP on a computer or can it be updated like a simple OTA?
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I'm on stock because all hardware works. I want full camera including 360 to work.
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360 isn't likely to work on any custom ROM because the code for it is probably proprietary. Phone manufacturers rarely release code for something like that. The camera code is probably the only thing on the Essential that isn't stock Android. This phone could easily run faster but Essential seems to have opted for better battery life in their stock setup. Google does exactly the opposite. They maximize performance so much that their phones run too hot and tend to burn out after a couple years. That's happened so far with the 5X, 6P & XL. Three flagship phones in a row dying from heat damage after a couple years is a pretty consistent track record.

When I was running LOS earlier this month the 360 camera worked...
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jhs39 said:
If there was an official build of LOS there would be a lot fewer issues. The unofficial build is probably just the ROM code auto compiled for this device with no further tweaks or fixes. You can do the same thing with any open source ROM. Have you tried AOSIP? I would think that would run better since it's actually official. That was also a solid ROM when I ran it on other phones. Not a lot of features but very stable fast and smooth.
Is updating a custom ROM difficult on this phone? Do you need to reflash the stock system image and TWRP on a computer or can it be updated like a simple OTA?
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360 isn't likely to work on any custom ROM because the code for it is probably proprietary. Phone manufacturers rarely release code for something like that. The camera code is probably the only thing on the Essential that isn't stock Android. This phone could easily run faster but Essential seems to have opted for better battery life in their stock setup. Google does exactly the opposite. They maximize performance so much that their phones run too hot and tend to burn out after a couple years. That's happened so far with the 5X, 6P & XL. Three flagship phones in a row dying from heat damage after a couple years is a pretty consistent track record.
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You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about...
Shut up... Flash the ROM... Then give your critique... You obviously haven't done that...
The 360 cam has worked for months...
The only reason this device isn't official... Has to do with Jenkins and gapps...
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rignfool said:
You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about...
Shut up... Flash the ROM... Then give your critique... You obviously haven't done that...
The 360 cam has worked for months...
The only reason this device isn't official... Has to do with Jenkins and gapps...
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LOS has no quality control over an unofficial build. If it runs fine great. If 360 cam works even better. If I wanted to run a custom ROM I would have just stuck with the OP5. LOS was official on that device. I bought the Essential specifically because it runs stock Android. Buying a phone that runs stock Android and has virtually no development community so you can run a custom ROM on it doesn't make much sense to me but it's your phone.

LineageOS is great but it could be much better if we had a better Support with the essential phone.
It has many advantages.
I just installed the stock ROM and can say
- battery life is better with stock
- UI runs smooth enough but apps like Facebook runs better with Lineage
- Instagram runs better because I had the bug in Lineage that videos getting skipped while playing
- whatsapp voice messages sounds awful sometimes because the sound crackles (no problem with lineage)
- no expanded desktop mode with stock rom
Both have advantages and disadvantages.

best rom for the k1

Was the best rom for this tablet, the stock version is pretty laggy, im flashing a optimized rom to see if improves but any suggestions?

efrommel said:
Was the best rom for this tablet, the stock version is pretty laggy, im flashing a optimized rom to see if improves but any suggestions?
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I got the base rom to run pretty good once I turned off all notifications and animations, and set the max number of background processes to 4

I like los14.1... but I've barebones the build by deleting everything I don't want and then I added some tweaks to make it feel real good.

All the custom roms are more or less the same (except for stock based like stock+ rom) because they are all made from Steel01's sources baked with custom rom specific files. So pick the one you find the prettiest or the most useful...

Hi All
What is latest ROM , there is any stability one from end of 2018 . Maybe someone working on new one ?

It depends what you're going for on your tablet. If you're aiming to keep all the Nvidia specific features I would recommend the 5.4.1 stock+ rom. If you don't care about any of that I believe that lineage is the way to go. Between the two, performance is the same for the most part, lineage is based on 7.1.2 though instead of 7.0, so you get a few newer features. If I have time later to come back to this I'll link them.

Jz5678910 said:
It depends what you're going for on your tablet. If you're aiming to keep all the Nvidia specific features I would recommend the 5.4.1 stock+ rom. If you don't care about any of that I believe that lineage is the way to go. Between the two, performance is the same for the most part, lineage is based on 7.1.2 though instead of 7.0, so you get a few newer features. If I have time later to come back to this I'll link them.
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Thank You
I will try go with that one- 5.4.1 stock+ rom

CAT5000 said:
Thank You
I will try go with that one- 5.4.1 stock+ rom
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I've been trying the 5.4.1+ rom. For some reason it crashes and boot loops after installing Swift Keyboard Damn, I really like that keyboard. Then I updated Magisk on it, to get a message saying the new Magisk app isn't supported. So I uninstalled it to download the previous version and that caused a bootloop now too
Just flashed it again, hopefully it works better this time.

I am also wondering what is the best ROM for my K1 is?
First off, I bought this tablet used. Did some research and found out about the battery recall, mine is not one of them, as in I have the newer/better battery.
Secondly I did update the stock rom to 5.4 but the battery drain was horrendous. No gaming, just surfing facebook or the internet was a draining the battery in a few hours. Even in standby on my nightstand, battery was almost dead the next morning. Then after some research many people said to downgrade to 5.2 which I did and it pretty much fixed the battery drain issue.
Then I found out about LineageOS and decided to install 15.1, performance is good, but does still experience some battery drain issues, but not as bad as 5.4.
I also know that earlier this year LineageOS has returned support for the Nividia Shield K1 tablet, but is that for OS 17 and how long do I have to wait for that version?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

afrowookie said:
I am also wondering what is the best ROM for my K1 is?
First off, I bought this tablet used. Did some research and found out about the battery recall, mine is not one of them, as in I have the newer/better battery.
Secondly I did update the stock rom to 5.4 but the battery drain was horrendous. No gaming, just surfing facebook or the internet was a draining the battery in a few hours. Even in standby on my nightstand, battery was almost dead the next morning. Then after some research many people said to downgrade to 5.2 which I did and it pretty much fixed the battery drain issue.
Then I found out about LineageOS and decided to install 15.1, performance is good, but does still experience some battery drain issues, but not as bad as 5.4.
I also know that earlier this year LineageOS has returned support for the Nividia Shield K1 tablet, but is that for OS 17 and how long do I have to wait for that version?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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On 5.4 to get regular battery usage you have to enable custom cpu profiles, the default profile doesn't idle properly and the cpu's stay in a higher frequency state. You can then have all 4 cores enabled and it will idle properly (well it does for me), and you have nvidia driver support for the original wifi game controller which i have.
Otherwise, if you use a LineageOS 14 build, you can have full hardware video acceleration, on 15 builds you won't have hardware video acceleration.

So what your saying is I can go back to 5.4 and just play with the settings? Any special apps to do this, or just all within the android settings that need changing in order to have the performance and stop the battery drain problem?
If it's just the android settings, what are the settings I need to change? Tutorial?
Thanks

AOSP extended from bit obsession is a bit old but still snappy!

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On 5.4 to get regular battery usage you have to enable custom cpu profiles, the default profile doesn't idle properly and the cpu's stay in a higher frequency state. You can then have all 4 cores enabled and it will idle properly (well it does for me), and you have nvidia driver support for the original wifi game controller which i have.
Otherwise, if you use a LineageOS 14 build, you can have full hardware video acceleration, on 15 builds you won't have hardware video acceleration.
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Got a link to the LineageOS 14 build that you use?
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battery
honestly, i think we are all screwed
my tablet wont charge at all now. it shows the icon on the screen saying it is charging but it doesnt charge at all. sometimes i can get about 10% on it.
the computer no longer recognises the device and i have only ever used official ota firmwares for it
spoke to Nvidia and all i got was the out of warrenty response.
they no longer care in anyway about shield tablet users and as it is discontinued its not like you can even buy a replacement. you cant buy secondhand either because theyll all just have the same bollocks battery issues we have on ours now.

I'll contribute a data point for anyone reading in late-2019 going into 2020:
I'm on Stock+ 5.4.1 on my K1 and it has been great for me so far in the last few weeks since I flashed it. I had been on the stock Marshmallow firmware for the past three years and was having the typical lag issues on wake. It was so severe that the tablet was completely unusable coming out of a deep sleep. It was also a chore to reboot it because even the lag on holding down the power button was agonizing and unpredictable. It was worse than booting Windows with an old hard drive.
I've had no lag-on-wake issues with Stock+ 5.4.1 so far. It's like coming back to remember why I liked this tablet in the first place after hating it for the past couple of years. I hadn't used it for anything other than daily alarms over the past year and change, but lately, I've been using it for bedside reading again instead of my phones.
To address a few of the issues that have been brought up in this thread:
I haven't had any battery drain issues with Stock+ 5.4.1. It seems to do about the same on my K1 as Marshmallow did, which was 100% to 15% on idle except for daily alarms (and snoozes) from Sunday through Saturday.
I ordered a new 6000 mAh replacement battery from AliExpress and will be installing it when needed. My current battery life isn't great, but it's not horrible either. I think it still manages to have about 80% of its original capacity.
After installing Stock+ 5.4.1, I flashed the latest Magisk 20.1 zip (Stock+ 5.4.1 came with Magisk 16.0) from within TWRP at a later date with no issues. Magisk 18+ is not compatible with Magisk Manager versions older than 7.0.0, but the old versions of Magisk Manager were bad in that they would always ask you to update to the latest version regardless of what version of Magisk you had installed. Basically, Magisk Manager was asking you for permission to nuke itself.
I have never used the official Facebook or Messenger apps, but virtually every comment I've ever read about them say that they're battery killers. Use a third-party app that combines both and has a smaller memory footprint.
I used to be an avid user of SwiftKey, but I've since soured on it. I haven't installed it on my K1 since the firmware upgrade and I don't know if I will going forward. The biggest benefit of SwiftKey used to be the dedicated number row, but its predictive swiping was the worst I had ever used. I'm on Gboard now and it seems to be working well. The only feature I miss from SwiftKey is the arrow keys to move the text cursor.

I am also wondering what is the best ROM. I got a K1 used as well not too long ago, and I mostly want to use it as a study tool for some CompTIA certifications in 2020, so viewing PDF's/word docs, exam simulations, and tutorial videos will be it's primary function. I do like comics so I would like it to perform snappy.
I really have no interest in gaming or social media.

eastbayarb said:
I am also wondering what is the best ROM. I got a K1 used as well not too long ago, and I mostly want to use it as a study tool for some CompTIA certifications in 2020, so viewing PDF's/word docs, exam simulations, and tutorial videos will be it's primary function. I do like comics so I would like it to perform snappy.
I really have no interest in gaming or social media.
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I went with a stock-based ROM because I still wanted all of the tablet's functionality to work as designed, even though I've never played games on my K1 using a controller or created an Nvidia account. However, as long as retaining those features won't cause the device to run poorly and there isn't anything inherently poor about the stock experience, I don't mind. Stock-based ROMs are usually easier to set up and install. Nvidia stock firmware isn't known for being particularly bloated or heavy like that of some phone manufacturers, but of course LineageOS is still going to be faster at the cost of some device-specific features.
Given your intended use, as long as you use something newer than the stock Marshmallow firmware and its wake lag issues, you probably don't need to worry about much else.

I decided to dig my K1 out of the closet and have a play with over the holidays. I just flashed the stock recovery 5.20 but for some reason I cannot update or download any apps from the Google Play Store. I keep getting error 963. I searched how to fix this but nothing has worked.
Anyone else been able to fix this?

Is any OS update proper stable? After 4.5.14 ?

Hi, Friends
I m still on 4.5.14 ( Nougat ), it's not that I haven't tried updating the ram but when I updated ( to 4.5.15 ) i was getting low battery performance, less camera performance and overall it just didn't sound fully baked and stable enough for me to update.
What I need from a phone is :
Stable Run
Great Battery Performance
Good Camera Performance
Any other useful feature are optional that it already has without effecting the beforementioned points.
Now android has released version 10 so i am almost 3 OS ver behind , Can anybody help me to know, Are there any real benefits of updating to latest OS apart from cosmetic changes ? I am an old motorola G user so i had to ask since they have forced us as a user so that we will brick if we go back to previous versions, they had changed something in the booting process ( mix of hardware and software )( i don't have an option to root since i use lots of financial which doesn't work great with rooting etc )

For any one want to update ota without losing root
https://oneplusonestop.wordpress.com/2018/09/09/ota-update-rooted/

Please help me on this ? Is there no Op5 user here ?

VajeenK said:
For any one want to update ota without losing root
https://oneplusonestop.wordpress.com/2018/09/09/ota-update-rooted/
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But that will never work if you're on nougat like op

intel3000 said:
Hi, Friends
I m still on 4.5.14 ( Nougat ), it's not that I haven't tried updating the ram but when I updated ( to 4.5.15 ) i was getting low battery performance, less camera performance and overall it just didn't sound fully baked and stable enough for me to update.
What I need from a phone is :
Stable Run
Great Battery Performance
Good Camera Performance
Any other useful feature are optional that it already has without effecting the beforementioned points.
Now android has released version 10 so i am almost 3 OS ver behind , Can anybody help me to know, Are there any real benefits of updating to latest OS apart from cosmetic changes ? I am an old motorola G user so i had to ask since they have forced us as a user so that we will brick if we go back to previous versions, they had changed something in the booting process ( mix of hardware and software )( i don't have an option to root since i use lots of financial which doesn't work great with rooting etc )
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There's no Android 10 for oneplus 5.
And the last OxygenOS versions are stable as Nougat. I can't imagine why you should not update to Pie?

strongst said:
There's no Android 10 for oneplus 5.
And the last OxygenOS versions are stable as Nougat. I can't imagine why you should not update to Pie?
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Thank you for replying!
I know but i came from using Motorola Phones and they use to have a lot of issues with their updated ROMs plus they have disabled the functionality of rolling back as well so one has to take lots of precautions before updating to the latest roms even though they are available earlier than other manufacturers.
Just wanted to know if the rom is stable enough and didn't issue in normal use. I use lots of financial apps, due to security reasons rooting is a no go for me. So I am just being cautious.
Also, I use the non rooted version of GCam for Photography needs so is that still available with Pie or not ?

intel3000 said:
Thank you for replying!
I know but i came from using Motorola Phones and they use to have a lot of issues with their updated ROMs plus they have disabled the functionality of rolling back as well so one has to take lots of precautions before updating to the latest roms even though they are available earlier than other manufacturers.
Just wanted to know if the rom is stable enough and didn't issue in normal use. I use lots of financial apps, due to security reasons rooting is a no go for me. So I am just being cautious.
Also, I use the non rooted version of GCam for Photography needs so is that still available with Pie or not ?
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For the gcam I don't know cause I never use it(have a professional DSLR) but check out apps section :good:

strongst said:
For the gcam I don't know cause I never use it(have a professional DSLR) but check out apps section :good:
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Thank you, Just one more question. Will it be easy to roll back to previous ROM ( Nougat ) in case I want to. I heard that since Oreo and in nougat there is some difference due to partitioning. Can I just upload the ROM onto the device and reboot into recovery to go back or I have to make partition myself?
The main thing I want to know is, DO I have to root to rollback or i can do that without rooting?

intel3000 said:
Thank you, Just one more question. Will it be easy to roll back to previous ROM ( Nougat ) in case I want to. I heard that since Oreo and in nougat there is some difference due to partitioning. Can I just upload the ROM onto the device and reboot into recovery to go back or I have to make partition myself?
The main thing I want to know is, DO I have to root to rollback or i can do that without rooting?
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You can roll back with local upgrade, but that's always risky when downgrading and you have a locked bootloader. I can't recommend this.
Also rolling back from oreo to nougat I can't think of it.

intel3000 said:
Hi, Friends
I m still on 4.5.14 ( Nougat ), it's not that I haven't tried updating the ram but when I updated ( to 4.5.15 ) i was getting low battery performance, less camera performance and overall it just didn't sound fully baked and stable enough for me to update.
What I need from a phone is :
Stable Run
Great Battery Performance
Good Camera Performance
Any other useful feature are optional that it already has without effecting the beforementioned points.
Now android has released version 10 so i am almost 3 OS ver behind , Can anybody help me to know, Are there any real benefits of updating to latest OS apart from cosmetic changes ? I am an old motorola G user so i had to ask since they have forced us as a user so that we will brick if we go back to previous versions, they had changed something in the booting process ( mix of hardware and software )( i don't have an option to root since i use lots of financial which doesn't work great with rooting etc )
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I would think that using banking apps you'd probably want to be on a newer version just for the security updates. This is the main reason I'm sticking to stock these days and just taking ota updates. Stick to pixel or OnePlus or Android one devices etc and you don't need root to get good software. I use Google pay and banking apps, purchase order online so I don't want to mess with rooting anymore except on my old backup phones like my htc one m8 to update it to Oreo from marshmallow.
Even if I could have root and Google pay working then you can't just keep updated by over the air updates as far as I know. I'd spend too much time researching how to install updates and regain root etc while now I just get an update pop up on my phone once every couple of months and tell it to install and wait a couple of minutes and it's good to go again.

I meant to add that I'm on 9.0.9 and I have had no issues with it. Performance is great, Camera is good, battery life is good. I had this phone for 2 years updated regularly from nougat to pie. I dropped the phone in the ocean and had to replace it, used a pixel XL for several months (on Android 10 recently). I bought another used op5 because I needed dual Sims for work. I don't regret it.
There was a choppy scrolling issue that came and went for a little while on pie (my first OnePlus 5 and also this replacement) but it seems to be completely gone now. Either with a recent update or possibly some setting I changed in developer options. Even when it had that issues it loaded everything extremely fast and held everything in ram usually. Battery life has never been an issue for me on this phone. It's better than the pixel XL but a lot and way better than a Galaxy s8. Standby time is really good and screen on time can go over 6 hours. Sometimes I unplug the phone before bed before it's even fully charged (90 percent or so) and go to work the next day and come home with over 70% still at 5pm.

My OP5 went from stable to buggy after my first OTA update. Once I rebooted from the first update my phone started to freeze up and blackout until a forced reboot.
Once I hit 9.0.4 I lost use of my gyro, camera, and GPS. Until I used an Unbrick tool and went back to 8.1 Oreo.
The phone still freezes up, screen blacks out, and LED lights turn a baby blue color until I force a reboot.

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My OP5 went from stable to buggy after my first OTA update. Once I rebooted from the first update my phone started to freeze up and blackout until a forced reboot.
Once I hit 9.0.4 I lost use of my gyro, camera, and GPS. Until I used an Unbrick tool and went back to 8.1 Oreo.
The phone still freezes up, screen blacks out, and LED lights turn a baby blue color until I force a reboot.
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That sounds like a hardware problem. Did you not attempt to return the device? If it was a software bug that happened to all of them it would have been talked about extensively here back when this phone was new and still popular.

350Rocket said:
That sounds like a hardware problem. Did you not attempt to return the device? If it was a software bug that happened to all of them it would have been talked about extensively here back when this phone was new and still popular.
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I apologise for necro-posting
Turned out to be a faulty(corrupt) OTA flash. Rolled back to 8.0 OTA and it went back to normal.

Is it worth Jumping from Nougat to Pie

Im currently still on 7.1.1 Nougat with Oxygen version 4.5.xx
Its working stable and pretty good so far, have not encountered any issues (Other than occasional android system draining battery issue once every couple months which is solved by clearing cache.) Should i be upgrading to PIe?
The reason i did not upgrade was because i read a lot of posts about oreo not being stable and having battery issues and Pie having perfomance issues.
I want to know how good the lastest Pie version is, Is it stable enough and how does it compete against the old Nougat versions.
The main things i'm interested in is
- Battery Life ofcourse (I Commute a lot, thats why its of utmost importance to me)
- Perfomance (A Friend's OP6 has been observing some lags since updating to Pie, I Dont want that to happen)
Havent rooted, Not planning to do so. Had fun doing that with my Xiaomi devices, Just want to stay on the official Kernel, Roms for now.

i was in same ship as yours, i also didnt update my system from 4.5.14 to any newer version major reason being bugs as generally i have seen company give their 100% to roms when its newer ( in my case before 5T is launched ) after that it just case of mouse and cat. Sometime it works sometimes dosent and you had to wait for next update to get rid of certain issue but the new update brings some exceptional issues with them as well.
But had a conversation with someone from this forum and finally though of upgrading. First reaction was Awesome. I dont know what exacatly has changed in UI but it looks quite polished, more than OP6 that my friend has. Maybe due to the fact that i am on OP5 so no gesture control and hence no lag due to that. Its more refined and everything works fine for me. Battery life is also pretty good considering its an 2 years old device and i am a pretty heavy user myself with daily screen average usage of 6 hours ( excluding music which i listen screen off but it also take battery quite much with some high def music. So your choise now. But one thing to note is that i have heard going back is pretty hard and not as simple as downloading the rom and booting to the bootloader and flash it ( which i did quite time in nougat but that was between nougat versions as i never went to oreo ).

Small lag after MIUI 11 update

I had my phone since last Sunday, it came with MIUI 10.3.12 and it was super snappy, after the update it still feels snappy, but the fingerprint unlock animation tends to lag and multitasking animation from home screen lags as well, everywhere else feels snappy like always, just those 2 things that really annoys me.
I experimented with reinstalling the MIUI 11 update "Download lastest package" but it made the matter worse. I have the Mi 9T and it currently have Miui 11.0.3.0 Stable Global.

This lags are like the battery drain. Some people suffer others don't. But I'm having those lags in many apps. Uninstall certain apps and see no more lags. Will see.

Sir_gpm said:
This lags are like the battery drain. Some people suffer others don't. But I'm having those lags in many apps. Uninstall certain apps and see no more lags. Will see.
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Like what apps? I tried a factory reset but nothing, it did went back when I updated it but still lag... I feel like unlocking the bootloader, downgrade to Miui 10, relock it and wait if Android 10 improves something.

Just an app that was supposed to improve the overall phone. Used to work in after stable releases.

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Just an app that was supposed to improve the overall phone. Used to work in after stable releases.
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i don´t think that the case since i had the same apps i used on miui 10. and it was working fine. torrent, blockada,adaway, whatsapp+, gbinstagram. magisk

In my case, I'm just going to wait 1 week for unlocking the bootloader and roll back to Miui 10 or maybe try a custom rom... Unless the Android 10 comes by (For now, it's only available in China).