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[Q] Be real with me here... is Lollipop worth it?

I've read through just about every Lollipop thread on this Verizon forum. I'm currently sitting on rooted 4.4.2, happily enjoying some pretty stable performance and battery life thanks to debloating, Amplify, Greenify and the like. With Nova Launcher and all of the Material Google apps, the interface can be made to look a lot like Lollipop as is.
Given all of the challenges that have come along with the update (battery, performance, root issues, beta Xposed support compared to 4.4.x), can those of you who have made the leap answer one question with a justification as to why - Was upgrading your Verizon Galaxy S5 to Lollipop worth it?

Wasn't worth it to me. Played with a couple lollipop ROMS for a week and now I'm back to 4.4.4.
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If your not the type that needs to be on the latest version and your happy with things as they are now, leave well enough alone. Newer is not always better, besides there are very limited 5.0 roms right now.

You know the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"! I haven't updated yet im still on beans Alliance rom and it run fantastic and battery life is exceptional so i don't see a solid reason to move on. This is probably the longest I've been on any rom but it has some nice customizations and i use xposed for a few things so im content. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I tried 5.0 but found that a few apps don't work on it yet. I went back to 4.4.4 and will probably stay there until rooting 5.0 is easier and more apps get updated.

For me I've given it about 2 weeks now, and i give it a big no. Mostly for how bad the battery life is and how sluggish it gets throughout the day. Going to go back to KK this weekend....

I have been using rom-v6-0-touchwiz-modness-lollipop-4-t3035513 and am extremely happy with it. you dont get to have Exposed on it but i only used exposed for turning off charging sounds and theming whitch you can do with the moar controls on this rom

I played with LP bit came back to 4.4.4 NK2 and NK7.
There were too many things in LP that I didn't really like, starting with the battery life. It isn't as good as KK.
Now I'm running stock NK7 debloated with the NI2 debloater and no mods but it runs the way I like it. And battery is amazing !
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While on lollipop, I had nothing but problems. My gear fit and g watch were both pretty flaky on holding a connection and Bluetooth would randomly reset for no reason. Battery life was horrid. I found that I didn't enjoy being on lollipop, it felt like my phone was just hobbled together. Back to KK and I couldn't be happier.
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Xposed Framework {6.0.1}

==================================Xposed Framework For 6.0.1 {SDK23}==================================
Xposed Framework is now much more stable for sdk 23. So let's try it out!
Requirements :
* Unlocked Bootloader
* TWRP Recovery
* SuperSu
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******************************************************How To Install?**********************************************************
***Download and extract Xposed.zip from attachments.
***Transfer the extracted files in to device.
***Install XposedFramework.apk
***Reboot to twrp and flash framework.zip
***That's It!
Enjoy
Please hit Thanks if helped
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What version is it?
What version number is this Xposed? Is it systemless or official? Can anyone report back how it is working for them? Phone lags, freezes, reboots randomly?

For which firmware ? It is available for nougat .378 & .376 ?

Lethien said:
For which firmware ? It is available for nougat .378 & .376 ?
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SDK21 -> Android 5.0
SDK22 -> Android 5.1
SDK23 -> Android 6.0(.1)
SDK23 won't work for Android 7.0 And at the moment there is no working framework available for Android 7.0 Maybe that's something for the future. Or not.

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SDK21 -> Android 5.0
SDK22 -> Android 5.1
SDK23 -> Android 6.0(.1)
SDK23 won't work for Android 7.0 And at the moment there is no working framework available for Android 7.0 Maybe that's something for the future. Or not.
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Ok, thanks for you reply
Regards

Is there any particular reason why Xposed for Android 7.0 might not come at all? Did Google try to screw us again in some way by making it semi-impossible to use Xposed, or is this just a matter of time before it starts working on Nougat?

Bobzee said:
Is there any particular reason why Xposed for Android 7.0 might not come at all? Did Google try to screw us again in some way by making it semi-impossible to use Xposed, or is this just a matter of time before it starts working on Nougat?
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Xposed is made and maintained by only 1 guy who does it in his free time. And it works on a level that's mostly undocumented. I don't know if it's ever gonna work. And this is about everything that's know about it. But I believe that if this wasn't a one-man's-job/hobby, but maintained by a collective of professionals, it would be launched much faster (and much more stable).

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Xposed is made and maintained by only 1 guy who does it in his free time. And it works on a level that's mostly undocumented. I don't know if it's ever gonna work. And this is about everything that's know about it. But I believe that if this wasn't a one-man's-job/hobby, but maintained by a collective of professionals, it would be launched much faster (and much more stable).
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That's amazing, I did not know that. It seemed to me that Xposed was developed by a team of XDA members, not just a single person. That's commendable.
So, jenana, I reckon your recommendation for people that want a good rooted phone would be to roll back from 7.0 to 6.0.1 and stay there forever with a working and stable Xposed?
After battling with Google Play services for two weeks, I am quite tired of this rom's behaviour. I get more usage from GPS than I do from my screen. It drains absurd amounts of battery for no good reason, with stopped location. I get 3 days of standby with this phone, with a 2700mAh battery. Nexus 5X - 8 DAYS on standby with wi-fi on. Play services drained 60mAh for 8 DAYS. It has the same 2700mAh capacity!!!
So, absolutely the same capacity, but one phone gets 3 days of standby, the other 8 days. Sure. Makes good sense, right?
I am almost done trying to deal with this crap. Love the feel of 7, but if I am going to get 0.0% drain on a fully rooted MM with working Xposed... the choice seems easy.
Shame on google for being such dic*s when it comes to battery. From what I have gathered, these wakelocks are forced by google and collect information that is of absolutely no use to us, but of big use to them, at the cost of our batteries. I have no issue believing that, because it makes much more sense than Google not being able to fix a bug for 5 years since KitKat, that is destroying the most important part of our devices. The only logical conclusion is that these wakelocks are forced on purpose to work for Google's needs.

Bobzee said:
So, jenana, I reckon your recommendation for people that want a good rooted phone would be to roll back from 7.0 to 6.0.1 and stay there forever with a working and stable Xposed?
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I think that depends on how you want to use your phone, more specifically how you weigh the balance between security and usability/flexibility. If one or more Xposed module(s) is absolutely critical for you, enough that you can ignore the updated security patches in Nougat, then it might suit you better to stay on MM with Xposed. But if you value security over what Xposed modules offers you, then by all means upgrade to Nougat.
For me, I'm staying on MM with Xposed. I'm aware of the possible risks, and I believe my internet usage and practices are decent enough. The security levels for the Z5C were never up to date anyway.

mhaha said:
I think that depends on how you want to use your phone, more specifically how you weigh the balance between security and usability/flexibility. If one or more Xposed module(s) is absolutely critical for you, enough that you can ignore the updated security patches in Nougat, then it might suit you better to stay on MM with Xposed. But if you value security over what Xposed modules offers you, then by all means upgrade to Nougat.
For me, I'm staying on MM with Xposed. I'm aware of the possible risks, and I believe my internet usage and practices are decent enough. The security levels for the Z5C were never up to date anyway.
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That's a fair point. Including the one about not being up to date anyway, heh.
Yet, I imagined you can defend yourself fairly well on MM with the Xposed framework, combined with having strict control over apps, firewall, anti-vir, etc.
I am by no means knowledgeable on this subject, though, so excuse my ignorance. It just bugs me too much that my phone can do much better if the software is properly set up. Stock is alright by me, but not having control over these absurd wakelocks is just killing my fun, in a way. My old Z1 lasted 5 days on 4.4 with pretty normal usage, and at least 2-3 days with heavy usage. Android L then instantly cut that time to 3 days (factory resets never helped), from which the phone never recovered. Then it gradually started lasting 1-2 days with the final updates I got OTA. The Z1 actually DID last about 25 days in ULTRA stamina mode. It had other serious issues, but the battery was absolutely glorious on KitKat.
I know that my Z5C is capable of even more, because the 6.0.1 management can take it to a full ~30 days in ultra mode, if you keep it idle the whole time. The "normal" usage should be about 5 days, easily. Heavy usage should be 1-2, possibly even 3 days. Definitely not just 1 day.
That's what I expect from this device and I know it's realistic. It just has to be achieved and does take some effort and skill, of which I am lacking the second a bit.

Guys, I've tried systemless v87 Xposed with Magisk 11.1, 10, 9, and Official v87, 86.2, 86 Xposed with SuperSU 2.79 and with 3 different kernels (modified stock, AndroPlus and Sunkernel from Zacharias) on my Z5 compact on Android 6.0.1 (Australian firmware). All the time the phone gets super slow, lags to the point of unusable, buttons and screen take minutes to respond, sometimes random reboots. What could be the problem? I noticed that while on WiFi at home phone seems to work fine, while on mobile network it starts lagging pretty quickly. What combination works for you best? Also which firmware do you use instead of USA to activate fingerprint sensor? I appreciate any help.

Why no stable root s7?

I remember when I had my s5 there was stable root options rather quickly but stable root for s7 is taking awhile. Just curious what it is about this phone that's taking a bit? Is it at&t? Samsung security? Lack of Devs?

iscream612 said:
I remember when I had my s5 there was stable root options rather quickly but stable root for s7 is taking awhile. Just curious what it is about this phone that's taking a bit? Is it at&t? Samsung security? Lack of Devs?
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Tbh as long as you don't use xposed and you flash the v15 fix, it runs just as well as stock. Using it on the g930u romantic and I get even better performance and battery life than with stock att rom
As for the time, Samsung has seriously locked this phone down. The normal kernel would not allow any changes to the system, the hash would mismatch. The engineering kernel is more permissive and allows such things. Android vulnerabilities such as towel root are also much more scarce.

dongdong6968 said:
Tbh as long as you don't use xposed and you flash the v15 fix, it runs just as well as stock. Using it on the g930u romantic and I get even better performance and battery life than with stock att rom
As for the time, Samsung has seriously locked this phone down. The normal kernel would not allow any changes to the system, the hash would mismatch. The engineering kernel is more permissive and allows such things. Android vulnerabilities such as towel root are also much more scarce.
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why not use xposed?

FreshIce21 said:
why not use xposed?
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Xposed is what makes it unstable. If you go without Xposed your rom will be ? (plus using the u rom helps)
Before I installed the u rom and rooted, my phone would lose 17% just from being locked in my pocket. Now it's only 8. For 3 hours. Works great.

There's really no point to rooting if xposed and custom ROMs are out of the question IMO
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my s7 is using U-Firmware but no xposed.. being rooted is good to rid of bloated ware apps, use ADBlock host, using screen off app (it requires rooted), freezing background apps that i dont use them and its fun to goofing around with /system and /data... and i am using iron man boot animations. there is a custom ROM working now on forum.

brianray14 said:
There's really no point to rooting if xposed and custom ROMs are out of the question IMO
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Rooting is still great if the are no custom roms (which there are)( Echoe rom is running smoothly) all it takes is a little research to learn how to mod yourself and little things that you can do to improve your phone yourself. Not knocking anyone that don't know how cause i still don't know a bunch but there is a lot of things you can do yourself to improve the phone experience. (After all, people that build roms are everyday people that learned!)

Obies said:
my s7 is using U-Firmware but no xposed.. being rooted is good to rid of bloated ware apps, use ADBlock host, using screen off app (it requires rooted), freezing background apps that i dont use them and its fun to goofing around with /system and /data... and i am using iron man boot animations. there is a custom ROM working now on forum.
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I ran the U FW for a little while but noticed that my battery was getting taxed really bad despite not having any bloat installed so I switched back to stock and it normalized.
Aside from not being able to uninstall the bloatware and change my boot ani, I can do everything you're doing. I have a package disabler (freezing apps), I have a system wide adblocker (adguard) that works perfectly well. Nova has gestures sop I can double tap to lock the screen. I personally have no use for root apps any longer. I can't install a custom kernel so can't over clock the processor, I don't need titanium backup because I'm not going to need to restore my phone after a flash, I'm not sure if viper sound mod works with S7 but I'd certainly want that again.
I'm happy with the phone as is and don't really see the need to modify it in any way aside from the visual customizations and those options are virtually limitless without root also
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dirtydodge said:
Rooting is still great if the are no custom roms (which there are)( Echoe rom is running smoothly) all it takes is a little research to learn how to mod yourself and little things that you can do to improve your phone yourself. Not knocking anyone that don't know how cause i still don't know a bunch but there is a lot of things you can do yourself to improve the phone experience. (After all, people that build roms are everyday people that learned!)
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The problem is I'm on at&t with the snapdragon processor so the phone is locked down very tight. If I had the international version, sure, I may screw around with whatever custom ROMs that are out there but I really don't feel the need. My first smartphone was a galaxy S and I didn't even have that for a month before I rooted it and slapped on some custom ROMs. I flashed that phone well over 50 times with either different ROMs or updates that required a clean flash to operate correctly. I owned a galaxy S3 and did the same thing with that phone. Owned an HTC ONE M8 and ran practically all the customs that were available for that phone too so I have had my fun with firmware customization and then some. Sadly, I couldn't go 6 months without the ROMs ****ting the bed because as you said, the ROM cookers are regular ppl too. Memory leaks were always a serious problem so I was basically CONSTANTLY troubleshooting my devices to get them to run optimally. Inevitably, when I really needed my phone for something is when these problems would occur! That got old! I'm perfectly happy with this device as is. It runs exceptionally well without me forever having to mess with it.
Have your fun. There's a lot of neat things to learn and discover and a lot of heart attacks too when you think, crap, I really screwed up this time! How am I gonna get myself out of THIS mess, lol
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brianray14 said:
I ran the U FW for a little while but noticed that my battery was getting taxed really bad despite not having any bloat installed so I switched back to stock and it normalized.
Aside from not being able to uninstall the bloatware and change my boot ani, I can do everything you're doing. I have a package disabler (freezing apps), I have a system wide adblocker (adguard) that works perfectly well. Nova has gestures sop I can double tap to lock the screen. I personally have no use for root apps any longer. I can't install a custom kernel so can't over clock the processor, I don't need titanium backup because I'm not going to need to restore my phone after a flash, I'm not sure if viper sound mod works with S7 but I'd certainly want that again.
I'm happy with the phone as is and don't really see the need to modify it in any way aside from the visual customizations and those options are virtually limitless without root also
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The problem is I'm on at&t with the snapdragon processor so the phone is locked down very tight. If I had the international version, sure, I may screw around with whatever custom ROMs that are out there but I really don't feel the need. My first smartphone was a galaxy S and I didn't even have that for a month before I rooted it and slapped on some custom ROMs. I flashed that phone well over 50 times with either different ROMs or updates that required a clean flash to operate correctly. I owned a galaxy S3 and did the same thing with that phone. Owned an HTC ONE M8 and ran practically all the customs that were available for that phone too so I have had my fun with firmware customization and then some. Sadly, I couldn't go 6 months without the ROMs ****ting the bed because as you said, the ROM cookers are regular ppl too. Memory leaks were always a serious problem so I was basically CONSTANTLY troubleshooting my devices to get them to run optimally. Inevitably, when I really needed my phone for something is when these problems would occur! That got old! I'm perfectly happy with this device as is. It runs exceptionally well without me forever having to mess with it.
Have your fun. There's a lot of neat things to learn and discover and a lot of heart attacks too when you think, crap, I really screwed up this time! How am I gonna get myself out of THIS mess, lol
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You are correct on every thing you mentioned above. I in a lot of ways are like you, i have had my ups and downs with flashing and recovering and what not. That is why i started learning how to do more myself do that i didn't flash a rom with so many things i didn't need or want. I used to run exposed on every rom and every phone for simple things that i thought were "cool" but i didn't really need. Ever since i quit using exposed and stated modding things that i actually use i quit having problems. I do still run roms, but am a lot more cautious on what i flash. But the Echoe rom (without installing exposed) is one if the smoothest roms i have ever ran. Absolutely no issues so far except swipe text does not work in the stock "Internet" App which is fixed in the updated version which i haven't upgraded to since it is still in beta. But all that aside, i still don't mind messing with things on a day to day basis and i still have the time for it.

Best daily driver ROM?

What is the best ROM for everyday use?

This is a very generic question, and is open to interpretation. But since you're asking, I'm using:
AOSP Extended 4.6 Nougat v7.1.2 by @NFound (04-18-2018)
BeastMode kernel by @freeza
Data and cache formatted as F2FS
Jojoc tweak script
No GApps whatsoever installed except Play Store, but I do use MicroG as a replacement for Google Play Services
I don't use my A7 for gaming or media purposes, I have a gaming laptop for that stuff (but I'm not a music kind of guy, no interest whatsoever, i'm just weird that way)
I'm also using Substratum with a black theme, Xposed and various modules, and Phh's Superuser for root. None of that Magisk garbage for me. Average screen on time is 8 to 10 hours depending on my usage patterns. It's rock solid and has never crashed.
I've tried Oreo, Pie, Treble, etc, they are not yet stable enough for my needs. But maybe one day soon I will fully commit and make the jump, hopefully to an AOSP-based Pie ROM.

B14 custom stock from RONKS (nougat 7.1.2) or dotOS oreo 8.1.0

@AnonVendetta, nice. We have almost the same setup. Though I still multiboot on the Axon 7 my main ROM is AEX 4.6, Llamasweet kernel, SuperSU, microG, and Xposed. T-UI launcher rounding things out. No f2fs though.
There is no Magisk on any of my devices/ROMs. I need root, not aggravation.
Did hit a recent snag though. Out of the blue all of my overlays are disabled on boot. Not sure why yet. But yeah, this particular ROM/build hit the sweet spot.
LG G3 D851, Mahdi v2.9 ROM (4.4.4), microG (NoGApps), MultiROM, XDA Legacy

@marcdw @AnonVendetta I honestly want to know why you guys hate Magisk that much. if anything i'd like to steer clear of a root management app that's owned by some obscure Chinese company...
i get that you might not use modules though. it makes life much harder if you use yt vanced or V4A
was it stability problems or something like that?

Go with arrow 9.0 GSI
Stable and good customization options

Choose an username... said:
@[email protected] I honestly want to know why you guys hate Magisk that much. if anything i'd like to steer clear of a root management app that's owned by some obscure Chinese company...
i get that you might not use modules though. it makes life much harder if you use yt vanced or V4A
was it stability problems or something like that?
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I use Magisk. It's waaaaay better than SuperSU. Systemless modules make it way easier to experiment with and maintain mods such as V4A.

Choose an username... said:
@marcdw @AnonVendetta I honestly want to know why you guys hate Magisk that much. if anything i'd like to steer clear of a root management app that's owned by some obscure Chinese company...
i get that you might not use modules though. it makes life much harder if you use yt vanced or V4A
was it stability problems or something like that?
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SuperSU has been around for years. Not going to stop using it because Chainfire gave it up to some "obscure Chinese company" (some like to say "shady" for no apparent reason). The new owners haven't done anything with it anyway.
As you may know, I'm a multibooter (on three of four devices). Magisk hasn't been too friendly in that area. SU provides root on all ROMs without issue. I'm good. LOS root suffices also where/when available.
YouTube Vanced (root version) is on almost every ROM. Never needed Magisk for it so nothing hard on that end. The installer that raystef made awhile back is what I use on the Axon sometimes. Just update the contents every so often. On the other devices I just place it manually after flashing a ROM.
Can't say anything about stability since I don't use it but there sure have been lots of posts of Magisk headaches with each major version.
Hard to say why but I wasn't really a fan of systemless as a whole (Magisk or SuperSU). Held out as long as I could using the system mode zips that were once available but a lot of Nougat ROMs wouldn't boot.
Anyhind, Magisk doesn't fit in with the way I do things I guess.
LG G3 D851, Mahdi v2.9 ROM (4.4.4), microG (NoGApps), MultiROM, XDA Legacy

@Choose an username...: You've asked me this before. If I have to say again why I have disdain for Magisk, then I will launch into a long-winded academic dissertation. So let's spare everyone that and say, yeah, it was stability problems. Massive ****ing stability problems, with every release I tried. And it's slower than molasses flowing uphill on a cold day in hell. The lag is unbearable, no matter what ROM/device I tried it on. And it induces weird little quirks/bugs that weren't otherwise present.
Long story short, I don't entirely hate Magisk, @topjohnwu had good ideas, like systemless modding. But in practice it has proven to be a serious headache to work with. Something might work well in an ivory tower, but when it enters the real world, that is the trial by fire. And it doesn't pass my tests of what is acceptable.
I'm an old school root kind of guy, I like to have my su binaries in the system partition. I need all my root-enabled apps to "just work". I don't care about passing SafetyNet. And honestly, nearly any systemless Magisk mod can be implemented directly into the system partition without Magisk. And that's the way I like things.
Oh yeah, one more thing, open source doesn't necessarily mean something is secure. SuperSU may be closed source, and owned by a Chinese company, but as @marcdw has pointed out, they have done nothing with it, and they have also done nothing to prove themselves untrustworthy.

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SuperSU has been around for years. Not going to stop using it because Chainfire gave it up to some "obscure Chinese company" (some like to say "shady" for no apparent reason). The new owners haven't done anything with it anyway.
As you may know, I'm a multibooter (on three of four devices). Magisk hasn't been too friendly in that area. SU provides root on all ROMs without issue. I'm good. LOS root suffices also where/when available.
YouTube Vanced (root version) is on almost every ROM. Never needed Magisk for it so nothing hard on that end. The installer that raystef made awhile back is what I use on the Axon sometimes. Just update the contents every so often. On the other devices I just place it manually after flashing a ROM.
Can't say anything about stability since I don't use it but there sure have been lots of posts of Magisk headaches with each major version.
Hard to say why but I wasn't really a fan of systemless as a whole (Magisk or SuperSU). Held out as long as I could using the system mode zips that were once available but a lot of Nougat ROMs wouldn't boot.
Anyhind, Magisk doesn't fit in with the way I do things I guess.
LG G3 D851, Mahdi v2.9 ROM (4.4.4), microG (NoGApps), MultiROM, XDA Legacy
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@Choose an username...: You've asked me this before. If I have to say again why I have disdain for Magisk, then I will launch into a long-winded academic dissertation. So let's spare everyone that and say, yeah, it was stability problems. Massive ****ing stability problems, with every release I tried. And it's slower than molasses flowing uphill on a cold day in hell. The lag is unbearable, no matter what ROM/device I tried it on. And it induces weird little quirks/bugs that weren't otherwise present.
Long story short, I don't entirely hate Magisk, @topjohnwu had good ideas, like systemless modding. But in practice it has proven to be a serious headache to work with. Something might work well in an ivory tower, but when it enters the real world, that is the trial by fire. And it doesn't pass my tests of what is acceptable.
I'm an old school root kind of guy, I like to have my su binaries in the system partition. I need all my root-enabled apps to "just work". I don't care about passing SafetyNet. And honestly, nearly any systemless Magisk mod can be implemented directly into the system partition without Magisk. And that's the way I like things.
Oh yeah, one more thing, open source doesn't necessarily mean something is secure. SuperSU may be closed source, and owned by a Chinese company, but as @marcdw has pointed out, they have done nothing with it, and they have also done nothing to prove themselves untrustworthy.
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well, the chinese guys made a build that had some pretty serious problems (i recall a couple hard brick reports), then had to apologize and made another one. it's not like they didn't do anything with it.
I get it though. i'm not trying to argue or anything. I guess you (@AnonVendetta) use F2FS? Even the f2fs loopback module doesn't fix all the problems usually

Ordered a OP6T and about to arrive. Help me find the icing on the cake

So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.

I haven't touched a custom ROM yet and I've been really happy with OxygenOS!
I'm on stable 9.0.13 and active drain seems good but idle drain, not so much. I lose about 10%-14% overnight...
Wasn't the case on .12 and your results may vary on that.
For theming I use substratum and it works pretty well!
I'd like to try custom ROMs but I'm a heavy Tasker user and my profiles now heavily work with OxygenOS. I'd have to do a lot of modifying to get working well with AOSP.
Also, I've read about small bugs like choppy display corners and buggy fingerprint reader on custom ROMs as well. Not trying to bash any custom ROM, just explaining why I have stuck with OxygenOS.
I am strongly considering going to Open Betas though, as updates seem more frequent and security patches are more up to date there as well. I opened up a thread asking about the stability of Open Beta and its all been positive!
Hope this helps.

International ROM plus xXx is and root is nice place to start.

You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
Other than that, the best battery would be .11 if you don't mind the security patch. Just use that + Magisk and you can't go wrong.

shmykelsa said:
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
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I like Oxygen OS. If I were making a custom ROM it would be just like OOS.
I am confident OOS will suite your needs and meet your requisites.

shmykelsa said:
So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.
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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.

I'm a big advocate of stock ROMs + root
Most ROMs can get buggy, not dexopt apps etc
Stock is smooth and works perfect.
Add magisk and win

tech_head said:
Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.
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I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?

flbenini said:
You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
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Sure I know, but I really need to change my phone because it's pretty old, and found a good offer for the 6T, so I just went on and bought it :good:
tech_head said:
Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
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Thanks for the feedback, I made a research about EdXposed, but I'm not really into Xposed because I often rely on Google Pay

Causical said:
I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?
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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.

tech_head said:
I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.
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Is there something beyond the repository in the main app?