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MHL support?

I recently put a new deck in my car, and the ONE reason I spent the money I did on it is because of the MHL capability. Now it seems all these new phones don't support MHL. None of the newer Samsung do, and it seems if I'm trying to get one of the top competitor phones, MHL is no longer an option?
Did anyone see/read/hear of MHL being a thing on the 6P? If it turns out that MHL isn't an option stock on this phone, is MHL a thing that can be added via a custom rom, or is it purely hardware?
Thanks for ANY and all help guys!!

whitak3r said:
I recently put a new deck in my car, and the ONE reason I spent the money I did on it is because of the MHL capability. Now it seems all these new phones don't support MHL. None of the newer Samsung do, and it seems if I'm trying to get one of the top competitor phones, MHL is no longer an option?
Did anyone see/read/hear of MHL being a thing on the 6P? If it turns out that MHL isn't an option stock on this phone, is MHL a thing that can be added via a custom rom, or is it purely hardware?
Thanks for ANY and all help guys!!
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Haven't seen any news of it, but can confirm there's hardware required as the USB port is different (at least on regular micro usb phones, NFI with USB-C). I can't even plug an MHL cable into my S6, whereas friend with Note 4 it all works easily.
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That's kind of what I was thinking as well. Apparently they got rid of the MHL support completely in the S6 and Note5 Line. I read that they don't even have MHL in the Nexus 6.... So I'm really afraid they might not have it here either.... Kind of sucks I guess.

I am about ready to tuck a Miracast adapter behind my dashboard. Then there's no fussing with cables or anything
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you need this bad boy...remember we will have USB-C
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12905

An alternative solution is chromecast has screen mirroring support. Tested it last night with the new chromecast app. Worked very well.

Chromecast needs the phone to be a hotspot and have internet connectivity at start up. Works if the conditions are right, so depends on where you live.

shakuyi said:
you need this bad boy...remember we will have USB-C
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12905
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Only bad thing about that is there won't be a way to charge the phone at the same time.

and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more

ti2095 said:
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
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They mentioned in their Q&A, that the usb is 2.0 because it's always on and 3.0 takes more power apparently.
Not sure if correct, just relaying info
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ti2095 said:
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
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From what I understand, this phone does not support Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Every Google page on this phone says "Fast Charging". That's freaking bogus, too. It's part of the Qualcomm 810 processor. Why the heck not??? If the hardware is in there, its possible it could be enabled through a kernel tweak. No guarantees though.
And for that matter, that processor supports wireless charging through metal. Just give me DISPLAYPORT!

CNLiberal said:
From what I understand, this phone does not support Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Every Google page on this phone says "Fast Charging". That's freaking bogus, too. It's part of the Qualcomm 810 processor. Why the heck not??? If the hardware is in there, its possible it could be enabled through a kernel tweak. No guarantees though.
And for that matter, that processor supports wireless charging through metal. Just give me DISPLAYPORT!
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Uhh yes it does support quick charge. 10 mins charge give it 7 hours of use if I remember correctly. This isn't the Oppo OnePlus that tries to sugar coat things and sell you garbage.
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No HDMI has been confirmed.
[–]strabbit 135 points 1 day ago
Will either the Nexus 5x or 6p support HDMI via the USB-C connector?
[–]google_nexus_team 115 points 1 day ago
DB> Nope. But Cast mirroring to ChromeCast or Android TV has got really good. And Chromecasts are only $35. And we have new ones announced yesterday.
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For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.

MHL and HDMI will not work on the 6P. The direct answer from the devs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3mzrl9/hi_im_hiroshi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjm6jl?context=1

We know thanks,, posted about 5 times just above yours...
Nothing new here, the Nexus 6 didn't have it either.
Slimport on the Nexus 5 was an LG thing...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Uhh yes it does support quick charge. 10 mins charge give it 7 hours of use if I remember correctly. This isn't the Oppo OnePlus that tries to sugar coat things and sell you garbage.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Unfortunately, it does not support "Quick Charge" Everything Google has said is "Fast Charge" which is not the QC standard. All your chargers you have now, are slow and useless to the 6P.
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Big Cam said:
For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
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Not sure if serious.......

So far Sony is doing a really good job with keeping the Xperia line with the MHL connections.

Big Cam said:
For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
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I was doing some research and found this thread. That CRUX looks interesting, but seems like Chromecast may be the way to go for $35.

Possibilities of USB C on Nexus Devices?

We have seen that on Macbook air 1 USB type C port has been utilized not just for charging but also being used as display port as well using an external adapter.
Will Nexus 6P/5X have such functionality using an additional adapter or directly may be to connect to HDMI TVs or connect OTG drives?

No. Disabled.

OTG should work, HDMI will not. I'm interested to see if the Pixel C has HDMI enabled. I would expect it to.

lensgrabber said:
OTG should work, HDMI will not. I'm interested to see if the Pixel C has HDMI enabled. I would expect it to.
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It does, and Google even sell a C-HDMI adaptor for that (only listed in the 'works with Pixel' section, though - not the Nexus sections).

Otg works... They confirmed and sell it on the store
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Thanks guys for your responses.. but why would they disable HDMI?

ragavbpl said:
Thanks guys for your responses.. but why would they disable HDMI?
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I guess because of Chromecast
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DaveHTC200 said:
I guess because of Chromecast
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I'd be curious if we could re-enable it through root, or if it's a hardware limitation.

ragavbpl said:
Thanks guys for your responses.. but why would they disable HDMI?
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It's not "disabled", just N6P doesn't have USB Type-C 3.1.

Could you please explain more?

In the Type-C spec (.zip found here http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/) it defines what pins and wires are used for what. In a Type-C port or cable there are 2 dedicated pins/wires for USB 2.0. For USB 3.1 communications there are dedicated shielded twisted pair wires used for high speed communication. To support Display Port/HDMI, the Type-C port switches the use of those high-speed data wires over to that kind of output. (I think they called this alternate mode.) Anyway, the Nexus devices only support the USB 2.0 mode. It is unclear to me which of these is the case, but it basically means that either the USB controller in the phone can't support it, or the physical pins in the port are missing to connect and use those high speed wires. (Or both.)
It is possible it is just disabled in software, but that doesn't quite make sense to me. Why include all the hardware you need to enable USB 3.1 speeds, HDMI output, and a slew of other features such as USB-PD... But simply choose not to enable them? Seems far more likely to me that the lower cost of the USB 2.0 only mode (less complex controller and port) were used instead.
Hope that helps.

Does mate 8 support Micro HDMI ?

Does mate 8 support Micro HDMI ?

blackinfinity said:
Does mate 8 support Micro HDMI ?
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You need this adapter than you can connect via normal hdmi
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...de=as2&tag=reco0f8-20&linkId=7AO6EE7E2DXBGF2H
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well does mate 8 support mhl ? can actually confirm it is compatible ?
My screen is dead and black..and I try to take control over my phone with external hardware..
I have a huawei smart watch synced if it can be to any help ?

Idk man but try the converter
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yep it does support MHL
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jbmc83 said:
yep it does support MHL
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are you sure have you tried it yourself ? cause I read some one else told it did not work ?

blackinfinity said:
are you sure have you tried it yourself ? cause I read some one else told it did not work ?
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im guessing it had something to do with the cable being used. i tried two cables, one of which worked and the other didnt. no idea what the difference was, aside from a different manufacturer. luck of the draw i guess...in any case, it was a bit finicky even with the one that actually worked in the end.
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jbmc83 said:
im guessing it had something to do with the cable being used. i tried two cables, one of which worked and the other didnt. no idea what the difference was, aside from a different manufacturer. luck of the draw i guess...in any case, it was a bit finicky even with the one that actually worked in the end.
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I am confused of what you are saying, did mhl work or not on Mate 8 ?
Since MHL adapters are expensive I take no chances.
But as it looks now MHL might be my only life boat left to recover my sms database... luckily I have my contact book synced in my huawei smart watch..but I have to recover it manually
which is takes a lot of time to do and is a lot of pain

blackinfinity said:
I am confused of what you are saying, did mhl work or not on Mate 8 ?
Since MHL adapters are expensive I take no chances.
But as it looks now MHL might be my only life boat left to recover my sms database... luckily I have my contact book synced in my huawei smart watch..but I have to recover it manually
which is takes a lot of time to do and is a lot of pain
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in simple terms: yes it did work. but it does not work with all cables. some cables work, other cables do not work. i dont know why that is. your best bet is to order several different MHL cables online (i.e. amazon) and then send back the ones that dont work inside the 14 day return window.
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jbmc83 said:
in simple terms: yes it did work. but it does not work with all cables. some cables work, other cables do not work. i dont know why that is. your best bet is to order several different MHL cables online (i.e. amazon) and then send back the ones that dont work inside the 14 day return window.
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This seem very strange to mee ? must be some logical explaination to this don you agree ? it cant just be that the cables are bad

blackinfinity said:
This seem very strange to mee ? must be some logical explaination to this don you agree ? it cant just be that the cables are bad
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i never said the cables were bad or broken. there are several options:
1) length and/or quality of the cable
2) manufacturer compatibility with different phone brands
3) active or passive converter with or without additional power line
4) version of MHL, dont remember what the current one is, but there are at least three generations (if not more) of MHL standards out so far
these are the options i can think of, but wouldnt be surprised if there were more
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jbmc83 said:
i never said the cables were bad or broken. there are several options:
1) length and/or quality of the cable
2) manufacturer compatibility with different phone brands
3) active or passive converter with or without additional power line
4) version of MHL, dont remember what the current one is, but there are at least three generations (if not more) of MHL standards out so far
these are the options i can think of, but wouldnt be surprised if there were more
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well if you can tell me a specific mhl adapter and cable combo that works and is compatible it would be help..

blackinfinity said:
well if you can tell me a specific mhl adapter and cable combo that works and is compatible it would be help..
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Lightning Micro USB HDMI kabel, Hizek 2M 8 Pin 2 in 1 Apple Android zu HD1080p HDTV Adapterkabel mit USB Kabel für iPhone 7/7Plus/6/6sPlus, Samsung S6/S7 Edge/HTC https://www.amazon.de/dp/B071Z2YN7N/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_.srBzb0E35GF7
however, for it to work u still need to install an app and switch on usb debugging, as well as wifi hotspot...
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Hdmi output + USB Host?

SOLVED

slayer418 said:
Since I just can't find any definitive answer by searching on google, is it possible to mirror S8 screen to a monitor while also being able to use USB devices (such as Logitech Unifying mouse & keyboard) and maybe also while charging the damn phone?
If yes, where can I buy such an incredible dongle ?
Edit: This video make it seems like it'd exists but doesn't give a link to buy the dongle...
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Alibaba is your friend..
Type C to HDMI Adapter,USB C to VGA HD TV Converter For Apple Macbook S8 S7 Note 8 USB Hub OTG TV Adapter Charging Silver mini
http://s.aliexpress.com/mayiMJJj?fromSns=Copy to clipboard
(from AliExpress Android)

Amazon:
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B071NJWWXL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

tonime said:
Amazon:
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B071NJWWXL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Yeah I have gotten a similar one already which is working fine, thanks for the replies guys tho.

Pc mode confirmed on mate 9.

Multiple sources confirm that there is a pc mode ! Cool!

https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...eives-android-oreo-based-emui-8-0-update.html

Anyone tested pc mode already?

i will try test this over the weekend!!!

can anyone confirm this ?

This is a rumor, only mate 10 support PC mode. I had upgraded to emui 8 (C00)

Have you try connect to PC ? I still trying to find the connection cable to try it out.

Now that project treble is available on Mate 9, theoretically PC mode should also be available.

sixhundrednine said:
Now that project treble is available on Mate 9, theoretically PC mode should also be available.
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But they wanna promote mate 10 now : )

I don't see how Mate 9 could have a desktop mode, you need USB 3.0 to send video over USB, and the Mate 9 only supports 2.0 despite having a USB-C connector.
I bet the rumors came from useless journalists reading the EMUI 8 features list without even thinking about the required hardware when the only phones with that OS were the Mate 10 and 10 Pro, which do have USB 3.0.

Thunderbolt.00 said:
I don't see how Mate 9 could have a desktop mode, you need USB 3.0 to send video over USB, and the Mate 9 only supports 2.0 despite having a USB-C connector.
I bet the rumors came from useless journalists reading the EMUI 8 features list without even thinking about the required hardware when the only phones with that OS were the Mate 10 and 10 Pro, which do have USB 3.0.
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I think that Mate 9 will not have desktop mode with Oreo, but you are wrong in one thing : it's not necessary usb 3.0 to send video over usb. A lot of phones can do it with usb 2.0. Almost all older Samsung phones, with USB 2.0 cand send video to the TV with a MHL wire ( and many others brands) .

PC mode
I noticed a reply from one person saying that the mate 9 lacked USB 3 support, however the Kirin 960 SoC DOES support USB 3, also his statement that video over USB required usb 3 is in error as MHL which provides for HDMI audio and video only requires USB 2. All you need for PC mode is a USB c to HDMI adapter and a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo. Basically turns it into a Chromebook with apps (some apps work good, others not so much). I wish people would bother to read the specs and do a little research before they post garbage and make themselves look like idiots.
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Jamestdd said:
Have you try connect to PC ? I still trying to find the connection cable to try it out.
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Look on Amazon, they have some reasonable priced USB c to HDMI cables, mine was only $14

revjamescarver said:
I noticed a reply from one person saying that the mate 9 lacked USB 3 support, however the Kirin 960 SoC DOES support USB 3, also his statement that video over USB required usb 3 is in error as MHL which provides for HDMI audio and video only requires USB 2. All you need for PC mode is a USB c to HDMI adapter and a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo. Basically turns it into a Chromebook with apps (some apps work good, others not so much). I wish people would bother to read the specs and do a little research before they post garbage and make themselves look like idiots.
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Look on Amazon, they have some reasonable priced USB c to HDMI cables, mine was only $14
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I had tried several usb c to hdmi adapters on my mate 9, but no one works. What wire are you using on your mate 9? Thank you.

antz_77 said:
I had tried several usb c to hdmi adapters on my mate 9, but no one works. What wire are you using on your mate 9? Thank you.
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I got a bag of 10 off of Wish.com for a few bucks. They work impressively well.
For once the Chinese junk actually worked...

skeltonh said:
I got a bag of 10 off of Wish.com for a few bucks. They work impressively well.
For once the Chinese junk actually worked...
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Can you say me the ref? I don't know anyone who has a working usb c - hdmi connection on a mate 9.
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Tested, but...
Hi, guys !
I tested today the desktop mode with Mate 10 pro and Mate 9.
It works with Mate 10 Pro, and with the same connector, doesn't work on Mate 9.
Sorry for those who were waiting for it !
Have a nice day, anyway
Chris