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I just received this watch yesterday, bought it through Aliexpress (search "SWatch K2" or "Kingelon K2").
Review: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/05/22/star-kingelon-review-of-smart-watch-android-os-4-2/
@@ Pandawill also stock this now @@
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3q_ZIZkYM&feature=kp
This is a complete replica of the Galaxy Gear. Build quality is excellent, looks like they use all the same screen, shell and band (with camera) of the original GG. Sealed non-replacable battery in a relatively thin body (about 11mm, same as GG1).
It uses MTK6572, has 4G ROM (about 1.1G usable), 512MB RAM. Pity there is no microSD slot to expand the memory.
It has only one button (to switch on watch / wake screen, and be the Home button). To navigate, swipe down from top = back, swipe up from bottom = menu.
There is a true Android 4.2.2 device and not some cheapo phonewatch with Java apps. There is access to Developer's options and USB Debugging (mine was set "on" already). This allows use of ADB to install apks.
No there is no Google Play store, no built-in web browser or video player. I am sure you can install these apps manually (I dunno how to install the Google Play package and I dont intend to do that).
Yes there is wifi, bluetooth (connects to my BT keyboard and working) and GPS (not tested).
I have not really tried out the apps, but they are pretty standard ones. I have also not tested the connection manager to the phone.
What I have done is so far are:
(1) Root the watch - after many failures using MTK Droid Tools, Framaroot, eroot etc., a friend gave me a tip about this chinese root tool called Kingroot. It is very successful in rooting most if not all chinese phones particularly those using Mediatek chips.
It installs its own version of superuser called kinguser, and its own version of su binaries. I thought what the heck lets give it a try, and it rooted the watch on the first run, and has no problem since.
Kingroot download page (Google translate) - choose "Kingroot PC ..." version
The program is in chinese. Installation was full of funky unreadable characters but most of the responses eg yes / no are the highlighted buttons. After installation, there is only one button to press. Just like all other one-click root programs, enable USB debugging on the watch, plug into USB cable and click the button, and it will do it all for you. Your watch should have rebooted when the process finishes.
(2) Back up the firmware using MTK Droid Tools + SP Flash tools - I followed this guide:
http://pinoyscreencast.net/how-to/get-full-rom-dump-stock-rom-mt6572-mediatek-smartphones-using-spft-mtk-droid-root-tools/
CONCLUSION:
This is a great find!! Excellent build quality, lightyears ahead of ZGPAX and SmartQ ZWatch. The hardware is similar to the Omate Truesmart / InWatch Z, except it is 4G ROM / 512 RAM with about 1.1Gb internal memory usable. I can live with this for the price of < USD 100.
You should go and buy this watch now because it is going to sell like hot potatoes. I am not going to test all the apps or answer questions about them, because they should work the same as Omate TS.
I am NOT a developer so dont ask me to do this and that cuz I dont know how to. I only back up the firmware in case I screw the watch up.
Hope that someone more knowledgeable would buy this watch to tweak and develop it. Then you can ask him questions.
I noticed this watch as well a couple of days ago. It looks pretty good, but the thing that still concerns me is the capacity of the battery, which is only 350mAh.. What are your experiences with the battery life so far?
was looking at getting one of these.
few questions:
is the camera quity okay?
are the photos saved to the phone or on the watch?
is the watch readable outside?
thanks bud
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Bought one waiting for it
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!! Major setback !!
!! MAJOR SETBACK !!
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Thank you doner03 for the solution - keyboard on smartphone will automatically pop up when you need to type something eg. click on writing aread of notepad app, when watch is connected to phone by BT and SWatch manager (smartphone companion) app running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53405588&postcount=16
(1) Don't bother installing a virtual keyboard on the watch - there is no input menu in Settings to change keyboard settings and set default keyboard. If you use a keyboard switcher app eg. Quick Keyboard Switch, it will force close when you run it.
(2) Although BT keyboard works with the watch, once you install SWatch manager app, the BT keyboards will stop working. You cannot delete the paired BT keyboard from the BT menu, and if you paired BT keyboard and your smartphone, it may make SWatch manager stop working. If you can use your phone to type on the watch, there is no point pairing your watch with another BT keyboard anyway.
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!! MAJOR SETBACK !!
The watch does not come with any virtual (onscreen) keyboard. I also discover it is NOT possible to use an onscreen keyboard, because the input functionality has been removed by the manufacturer:
If you go to Settings, there is only "Language" (normally this says "Language and Input" in the usual Android devices). There are no options to enable, change settings on, and set default to keyboards.
I googled and found a post describing how to use ADB shell to enable and set (as default) keyboards. I followed the instruction but it does not work.
I asked in that same forum (the respected Android Stack Overflow website), and I got an answer confirming my suspicion that this function has been removed on this watch.
It is not as simple as the access menu has been hidden or missing.
It would be nice to have an onscreen keyboard, and I guess either BT keyboard or phone keyboard via the phone companion app have to do!
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i have this watch i just installed google search .apk and use the voice typing on search bars it doesnt always work but most of the time it does
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92jacko said:
was looking at getting one of these.
few questions:
is the camera quity okay?
are the photos saved to the phone or on the watch?
is the watch readable outside?
thanks bud
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yes camera is nice (5mp)
photos are saved to watch but can very easy be beamed to phone with a click threw manager app (comes with watch) same with video
yes the screen is the same quality as of the gear it is ok outside
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UntoldStories said:
I noticed this watch as well a couple of days ago. It looks pretty good, but the thing that still concerns me is the capacity of the battery, which is only 350mAh.. What are your experiences with the battery life so far?
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full charge and with you not playing with it every min last about 6 hours or less give or take heavy use (Pandora running) under 5
Keyboard is a BIG problem
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Thank you doner03 for the solution - keyboard on smartphone will automatically pop up when you need to type something eg. click on writing aread of notepad app, when watch is connected to phone by BT and SWatch manager app running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53405588&postcount=16
(1) Don't bother installing a virtual keyboard on the watch - there is no input menu in Settings to change keyboard settings and set default keyboard. If you use a keyboard switcher app eg. Quick Keyboard Switch, it will force close when you run it.
(2) Although BT keyboard works with the watch, once you install SWatch manager app, the BT keyboards will stop working. You cannot delete the paired BT keyboard from the BT menu, and if you paired BT keyboard and your smartphone, it may make SWatch manager stop working. If you can use your phone to type on the watch, there is no point pairing your watch with another BT keyboard anyway.
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I dont believe it, THERE IS NO VIRTUAL KEYBOARD in the SWatch Manager (smartphone companion)!! And why the FRAK did they take keyboard input access away from the watch so that we cant install KBs outselves?
How the hell do I type?? (sorry voice search is slow inaccurate and need BT connection). Without KB, you cannot use the watch to browse the internet or make notes etc.
The SmartDevice (maker of SmartQ ZWatch) scores in SW development - they actually think and add useful things such as (1) keyboard input (through the phone and watch companion) and (2) "auto screen on / show time when you raise your wrist to look at the watch" (by gyro sensors).
(1) keyboard problem - although I can pair BT keyboards with the watch, as soon as I pair the smartphone with SWatchManager app, I cannot get the BT keyboards to pair and work anymore.
(2) auto screen on / show time when you look at the watch - I tried both "Autoscreen on off" and "Gravity Screen" from Play store, which should provide this function. However, both apps force close when I run them. I suspect the watch only has simple gravity sensor but not the more sophisticated accelerometer and/or gyroscopic sensors.
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well my google voice search is very accurate on this watch it just doesnt work on all apps it does on facebook in the watch and chrome browser and it does not require bt it required wifi on
coolkid893 said:
i have this watch i just installed google search .apk and use the voice typing on search bars it doesnt always work but most of the time it does
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How do you install apk's on this watch?
timtop said:
(2) auto screen on / show time when you look at the watch - I tried both "Autoscreen on off" and "Gravity Screen" from Play store, which should provide this function. However, both apps force close when I run them. I suspect the watch only has simple gravity sensor but not the more sophisticated accelerometer and/or gyroscopic sensors.
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You might need to install an older or earlier version of "Autoscreen on off" and "Gravity Screen" if available, search for it via google. You won't get it from the default app store.
Earlier version might not force close.
timtop said:
i just received this watch yesterday, bought it through aliexpress (search "swatch k2" or "kingelon k2").
Review: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/05/22/star-kingelon-review-of-smart-watch-android-os-4-2/
@@ pandawill also stock this now @@
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap3q_zizkym&feature=kp
this is a complete replica of the galaxy gear. Build quality is excellent, looks like they use all the same screen, shell and band (with camera) of the original gg. Sealed non-replacable battery in a relatively thin body (about 11mm, same as gg1).
It uses mtk6572, has 2g rom (about 1.1g usable), 512mb ram. Pity there is no microsd slot to expand the memory.
It has only one button (to switch on watch / wake screen, and be the home button). To navigate, swipe down from top = back, swipe up from bottom = menu.
There is a true android 4.2.2 device and not some cheapo phonewatch with java apps. There is access to developer's options and usb debugging (mine was set "on" already). This allows use of adb to install apks.
No there is no google play store, no built-in web browser or video player. I am sure you can install these apps manually (i dunno how to install the google play package and i dont intend to do that).
Yes there is wifi, bluetooth (connects to my bt keyboard and working) and gps (not tested).
I have not really tried out the apps, but they are pretty standard ones. I have also not tested the connection manager to the phone.
What i have done is so far are:
(1) root the watch - after many failures using mtk droid tools, framaroot, eroot etc., i came across the omate truesmart root tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713183
this is the only root tool that works on this watch, probably because the ts (aw414) uses the same mtk6572 and android 4.2.2. I used root checker to make sure root is working.
(2) back up the firmware using mtk droid tools + sp flash tools - i followed this guide:
http://pinoyscreencast.net/how-to/get-full-rom-dump-stock-rom-mt6572-mediatek-smartphones-using-spft-mtk-droid-root-tools/
after the rom dump process went through smoothly, i tried to reload the backup firmware: All the different parts of the firmware are there except "uboot.img". The author of the above guide also mentioned this file was missing, but he found out that it was renamed to something else. In my rom dump, there is no additional file which is unaccounted for and might be the image file. I dunno if you absolutely need this "uboot.img" to unbrick the watch.
Conclusion:
This is a great find!! Excellent build quality, lightyears ahead of zgpax and smartq zwatch. The hardware is similar to the omate truesmart / inwatch z, except it is 2g rom / 512 ram. I can live with this for the price of < usd 100.
You should go and buy this watch now because it is going to sell like hot potatoes. I am not going to test all the apps or answer questions about them, because they should work the same as omate ts.
I am not a developer so dont ask me to do this and that cuz i dont know how to. I only back up the firmware in case i screw the watch up.
Hope that someone more knowledgeable would buy this watch to tweak and develop it. Then you can ask him questions.
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i am very knowledgeable with this watch and i warn you all do not try this root he is tellING you that works and iT very well might but the risk is exetremely high unless your a dev and will soft brick you phone even possibly hard brick please wait for a experienced dev makes a root tool and
ps if you soft bricked your watch doing this root
adb into your watch an erase cache and reboot
coolkid893 said:
i am very knowledgeable with this watch and i warn you all do not try this root he is tellING you that works and iT very well might but the risk is exetremely high unless your a dev and will soft brick you phone even possibly hard brick please wait for a experienced dev makes a root tool and
ps if you soft bricked your watch doing this root
adb into your watch an erase cache and reboot
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I lost root after doing factory reset, and I could not regain root using the same method (Omate Truesmart root tool).
However, a friend gave me a tip about this chinese root tool called Kingroot. It is very successful in rooting most if not all chinese phones particularly those using Mediatek chips.
It installs its own version of superuser called kinguser, and its own version of su binaries. I thought what the heck lets give it a try, and it rooted the watch on the first run, and has no problem since.
Kingroot download page (Google translate) - choose "Kingroot PC ..." version
The program is in chinese. Installation was full of funky unreadable characters but most of the responses eg yes / no are the highlighted buttons. After installation, there is only one button to press. Just like all other one-click root programs, enable USB debugging on the watch, plug into USB cable and click the button, and it will do it all for you. Your watch should have rebooted when the process finishes.
coolkid893 said:
i am very knowledgeable with this watch and i warn you all do not try this root he is tellING you that works and iT very well might but the risk is exetremely high unless your a dev and will soft brick you phone even possibly hard brick please wait for a experienced dev makes a root tool and
ps if you soft bricked your watch doing this root
adb into your watch an erase cache and reboot
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Just ordered one of these. any tips tricks or advice would be appreciated
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coolkid893 said:
i have this watch i just installed google search .apk and use the voice typing on search bars it doesnt always work but most of the time it does
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yes camera is nice (5mp)
photos are saved to watch but can very easy be beamed to phone with a click threw manager app (comes with watch) same with video
yes the screen is the same quality as of the gear it is ok outside
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full charge and with you not playing with it every min last about 6 hours or less give or take heavy use (Pandora running) under 5
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Hello,
How do you install google search on this watch
Thanks
bab1c said:
Hello,
How do you install google search on this watch
Thanks
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download the google search .apk (newest version) to phone (i like to use the download folder in phone its makes it easyer to find in phone) with your phone open the smanager app use remote file manager
click the three white dots at the top right click send file select sdcard0 then find were you placed the google search.apk (in my case i told it to go to teh download folder) in your phone
when you find the apk click it it will bluetooth transfer the apk to your watch when it is done
Part 2 go into your watch opens apps look for file manager in watch click phone storage look for were you put the search apk (remember i used the download folder) then click the apk then it will prompt you to install app click install the there you go
p.s dont install every app you see because some apps will crash the watch even popular apps (mostly apps that look at your contacts these apps really screw the watch up) skype works but contacts in watch will no longer work once installed (untill you uninstall)gmail works chrome works google maps works (do not turn on gps you can only look at the maps you can not do a gps search with google maps) it will crash the watch gps function is kinda of a joke in this watch
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in watch under dev options turn on usb debugging
unplug then replug in the watch to pc it will ask to turn on usb storage click it then the watch files will pop up on the pc drag the apks to the watch then just follow
part 2
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akira712 said:
Just ordered one of these. any tips tricks or advice would be appreciated
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yes dont try to root it its pointless at this point and risky
install google search apk it is the only app that comes close to a keyboard that can work in this watch
do not leave wifi on in watch if your not using wifi it will kill the watch very fast
i know when you first get it its a new toy and your gonna play with it for awhile but they ship the watch completely dead so let it fully charger before you play and remember if you try to use this watch as a extra android device to browse the web or emails 30 times a day and not just as a watch it will only last about 4 hours if that
If anyone wants to type on a field on the swatch, when you are on it , on the swatch manager on the phone will open a window to type on the phone keyboard , it is not necesary to have a keyboard on the swatch
doner03 said:
If anyone wants to type on a field on the swatch, when you are on it , on the swatch manager on the phone will open a window to type on the phone keyboard , it is not necesary to have a keyboard on the swatch
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lol ya we know that but its a pain in the a** were talking about a keyboard in the watch
Can anyone verify this? Kingo root? I've tried everything frama root can't get to the method button Idk if it's DPI or what.
Major mayhem works perfect. Couldn't connect moga pro had idea if I could use hid mode that I could get the methods no luck.
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So I fount a ton of interesting things about it I got it rooted and it appears to already have google framework just missing play store and and input the build prop also has a lot turned off anyone tried this? I hate to break but I even fount the time format and I believe it be changed from 24 to 12
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Feel free to move this thread, but I thought I should ask somewhere people know about hardware.
I own a local store which has about 35 stands for each product, and me and my team want to run slideshows (picture+video) in each one.
My guess is that I should use tablets.
Why tablets?
a) Slideshows needs a software to run them. Displays are just displays.
b) KODI (XBMC) app is a good option, as each Kodi would also run a Samba server and I could send the media I need to play to each one from one computer.
c) I looked for digital photo frames, but they don't support any kind of networking, and the few ones I've found are as expensive as tablets.
My questions are,
1) Is it fine if they are connected to AC power all day 24/7? Our local is opened 24hs. Should I take off their batteries? I don't know if tablets are prepared for that purpose.
2) Is there a difference between generic tablets and Samsung Galaxy Tabs 3? In fact, I really don't need high-end tablets, I just need to run the slideshows. But my only fear is the device-life.
When its plugged in it runs off ac power an keeps the battery's charged so as long as there is power you are good it won't hurt it. I can make a app that's a slide show for them if you want just install the app an open it an itll play. The send the videos an slide show pics an I'll work on when I can. 12 hour shifts this schedule
afox27 said:
When its plugged in it runs off ac power an keeps the battery's charged so as long as there is power you are good it won't hurt it. I can make a app that's a slide show for them if you want just install the app an open it an itll play. The send the videos an slide show pics an I'll work on when I can. 12 hour shifts this schedule
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I appreciate your help.
I actually found out a solution to this. Not the best but fine.
I've installed Kodi and configured everything to block everything but the slideshow.
I needed to rooted them. Installed Xposed framework, and a Xposed addon to blocked hardware keys (leaving a combination to escape).
Installed Touch Blocker, to disable touch.
Installed Samba Filesharing app (running on default samba port thanks to root)
Configure Kodi to autostart Slideshow when it opens, and made a custom service-addon to auto refresh slideshow when new media is detected after 2 minutes, skipping if files are still transferring.
That took a lot more time to replicate in all 35 tablets because there is no cmw or teamwin recovery for Galaxy Tab 4 8'', or at least I haven't found, so Titanium Backup and Helium for some other stuff
I have a 16gb model with stock 2.1 unrooted firmware , and I'm currently waiting for another one to arrive. The one I have has a 32gb micro sd card and 2 usb 3.0 4tb external hdd's connected, I use it mainly for running kodi, and for streaming the external hdd's content to other devices at home that also have kodi installed. For my type of usage, by priority, this are the things I would like to see fixed / implemented:
- We already have suspend and reboot, but I would really like if there was a simple turn on and off / remote power off option without having to phisicaly touch the console, I don't like that the external hdd's are always working;
- Better system / app compatibility with external drives, currently I can't even make a simple kodi library backup;
- Option to auto-start a certain app after boot, by exiting that app it would go back to launcher;
- Better mouse support, those who use es explorer know how hard it is to do even the most simple actions without using a mouse;
- More theme / launcher custom options, possibility to choose only what I want and the size I want it to show on the "desktop", change wallpapers;
- More app compatibility from play store, there is a very limited number of apps currently available that are compatible with shield whitout having to use sideload launcher.
I don't know if there's already a solution for any of the things I mentioned, especially the first two, if so, please let me know, thanks!
BrunoNRG said:
I have a 16gb model with stock 2.1 unrooted firmware , and I'm currently waiting for another one to arrive. The one I have has a 32gb micro sd card and 2 usb 3.0 4tb external hdd's connected, I use it mainly for running kodi, and for streaming the external hdd's content to other devices at home that also have kodi installed. For my type of usage, by priority, this are the things I would like to see fixed / implemented:
- We already have suspend and reboot, but I would really like if there was a simple turn on and off / remote power off option without having to phisicaly touch the console, I don't like that the external hdd's are always working;
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controller/remote can already wake up the Shield.
AFAIK, the USB mass storage protocol doesn't have disk-specific instructions for spinning up and down drives. So it's up to each drive and/or enclosure (case+usb<->sata controller) to provide this functionality.
BrunoNRG said:
- Better system / app compatibility with external drives, currently I can't even make a simple kodi library backup;
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wait for the next update (Android 6.0) or root than sdfix (google it).
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- Option to auto-start a certain app after boot, by exiting that app it would go back to launcher;
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search 'auto start' in the play store (might need to sideload)
BrunoNRG said:
- Better mouse support, those who use es explorer know how hard it is to do even the most simple actions without using a mouse;
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just plug a mouse ?
BrunoNRG said:
- More theme / launcher custom options, possibility to choose only what I want and the size I want it to show on the "desktop", change wallpapers;
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install another launcher.
BrunoNRG said:
- More app compatibility from play store, there is a very limited number of apps currently available that are compatible with shield whitout having to use sideload launcher.
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best way if you want a specific app to appear in the TV store is to contact the author of that app.
anyway this is a design/philosophy problem.
go for alternate ROM if you don't like the design/philosophy of Android TV.
kgersen said:
controller/remote can already wake up the Shield.
AFAIK, the USB mass storage protocol doesn't have disk-specific instructions for spinning up and down drives. So it's up to each drive and/or enclosure (case+usb<->sata controller) to provide this functionality.
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True, but the current standby / sleep mode is a little like locking the screen of your phone (or even less because everything is still working, just the "screen" is turned off), I wanted the option to acctualy shut down shield with the remote, currently it can only be powered off by holding the power button on the console for about 10 seconds, after that you can't turn it on again from distance with any remote / controller.
The two external hdd's I'm using on shield are self powered 3.0 usb 4tb Verbatim Store `n` Save, when connected to any other device (wd tv, laptop, etc....) after a few minutes of not being in use, they will enter standy mode / shutdown, even if the device where they're connected to is still on, if you need to access any of it's contents (just open the hdd root folder for instance) they will power on automatically, this doesn't happen on shield and I don't think that this is any of the hdd's fault, I also don't know if it's in any way harmful for the hard drives to be on all the time...?
kgersen said:
wait for the next update (Android 6.0) or root than sdfix (google it).
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The reason why I want to backup kodi's library is exactly because, in order to root, I need to unlock the bootloader and, in doing so I'll loose all data...
kgersen said:
search 'auto start' in the play store (might need to sideload)
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Any auto start app you advice?
kgersen said:
just plug a mouse ?
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I use a logitech k700 mouse + keyboard combo, but the mouse stops working after some time (I believe this is a known issue on shield), I don't know if this is due to leanback launcher, it does this with every mouse I tried so far...
kgersen said:
install another launcher.
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Which launcher works best on android tv without being "sidelaunched"...? I ask this because the one I tried didn't open on shield startup, I had to open if afterwards on sidelaucher. I've also read that the opposite can also hapen, that certain launchers (xbmc launcher for instance) won't let you go back to leanback or access shield settings...
kgersen said:
best way if you want a specific app to appear in the TV store is to contact the author of that app.
anyway this is a design/philosophy problem. go for alternate ROM if you don't like the design/philosophy of Android TV.
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I have nothing against the design/philosophy of Android TV, I just think that if a certain app or game (Sine Mora [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitalreality.sinemora] works flawlessly using the controller) is fully compatible with shield, it should be accessible without the use of sidelauncher.
Thanks for the help
BrunoNRG said:
they will enter standy mode / shutdown, even if the device where they're connected to is still on, if you need to access any of it's contents (just open the hdd root folder for instance) they will power on automatically, this doesn't happen on shield
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im having the same hdd wake issue, only difference is mine seems fine until the satv sleeps. the hdd doesnt wake when satv does... so far my search for a fix hasnt gone well, hoping the M update will take care of it.
might give HAL launcher a try if you dont want to sideload, if you havent already. iirc it had an option in settings to be used as default launcher. i tried it about 6 months ago and went back to leanback.
there dont seem to be many good alternatives atm
and AutoStarter should work for autolaunching apps, also has a start to foreground and delayed start options, havent tried it on the satv though
BrunoNRG said:
The reason why I want to backup kodi's library is exactly because, in order to root, I need to unlock the bootloader and, in doing so I'll loose all data...
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you can backup your library to the cloud or a network server with ES File Explorer.
or with a PC (win/mac/linux) and adb (you dont need an usb cable, just activate debugging & network debugging in the Shield then "adb pull" the files you want to backup).
BrunoNRG said:
Any auto start app you advice?
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nope. I use none.
BrunoNRG said:
I have nothing against the design/philosophy of Android TV, I just think that if a certain app or game (Sine Mora [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitalreality.sinemora] works flawlessly using the controller) is fully compatible with shield, it should be accessible without the use of sidelauncher.
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AFAIK, Sine Mora is accessible from the web play store , you don't need to sideload it but you need another device to access the web play store to push it to the Shield (or sideload a browser in the shield 1st since you have a mouse).
If Sine Mora doesn't show in the Shield Play Store it's because its editor didn't opt-in to do so. Try contacting them to fix that, some developers are just unaware of Android TV until someone ask them about it. The fix can take less than 5 minutes usually. The opt-in can't be automatic for a lot of reasons but mostly support (even more if it's a paid app).
Hi i just got my DM98 smartwatch and had a few questions for anybody that has the answers.
1.) I got the watch synced to my phone and i wanted to be able to send and receive text messages, make and receive phone calls, and use the internet.
Question: is there an app or trick to make this possible or am i just S.O.L. ?
2.) I have read that it is possible to create your own clock faces.
Question: Is there a guide that details how to do this?
3.) Question; if i want to do anything do i need to root?
These are all the questions i have at the moment. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Dfire87 said:
1.) I got the watch synced to my phone and i wanted to be able to send and receive text messages, make and receive phone calls, and use the internet.
Question: is there an app or trick to make this possible or am i just S.O.L. ?
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The trick is simple - go to the play market and look for notification software with a set of features you want.
Dfire87 said:
2.) I have read that it is possible to create your own clock faces.
Question: Is there a guide that details how to do this?
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The guide is simple - you should write your program. It's the most flexible way. Second option - you can go to the market and look for face designer or similar application. It' limited, of course, but you can try it. Third option - get watch face that you like and go into it's folder. There you'll find some pictures and may be fonts. Now you can delete the pictures and replace them with your own (with same name, of course), then restart your watch face application and you'll see your pictures instead of removed. It's most limited customization, but it's simplest.
Here is one watch face application.
Dfire87 said:
3.) Question; if i want to do anything do i need to root?
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If you really want to do ANYTHING you in fact need a lot of money first.
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The trick is simple - go to the play market and look for notification software with a set of features you want.
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let me clarify a little bit.... i want to do this all through bluetooth. i have tried a bunch of apps and none see my DM98 Smartwatch as a bluetooth headset or anything of the like so i am a little confused with the explanation.
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let me clarify a little bit.... i want to do this all through bluetooth. i have tried a bunch of apps and none see my DM98 Smartwatch as a bluetooth headset or anything of the like so i am a little confused with the explanation.
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It shouldn't be a headset. It should be something like phone or smartphone with the ability to transfer any data. To connect to DM98 first turn bluetooth on on both devices (DM98 and your phone), next make one of the devices available to connection requests, then the device will advertise itself and second device should see it. When it's seen just touch it and select "pair". Only after this you can start your notification software and use it's communication features.
In short - you should pair devices BEFORE any third party application can do something for you. The pairing is performed using Android's bluetooth settings, no third parties should be involved.
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It shouldn't be a headset. It should be something like phone or smartphone with the ability to transfer any data. To connect to DM98 first turn bluetooth on on both devices (DM98 and your phone), next make one of the devices available to connection requests, then the device will advertise itself and second device should see it. When it's seen just touch it and select "pair". Only after this you can start your notification software and use it's communication features.
In short - you should pair devices BEFORE any third party application can do something for you. The pairing is performed using Android's bluetooth settings, no third parties should be involved.
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still not 100% sure what your saying. i want the dm98 smartwatch to function like the samsung gear s (the only smartwatch i have used that does what i like) as in while it bluetoothed to my phone everything (calls, sms, and data) can be pushed from my phone to the watch. it has a nano sim card slot available but i dont need this because i always have my phone on me.
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still not 100% sure what your saying. i want the dm98 smartwatch to function like the samsung gear s (the only smartwatch i have used that does what i like) as in while it bluetoothed to my phone everything (calls, sms, and data) can be pushed from my phone to the watch. it has a nano sim card slot available but i dont need this because i always have my phone on me.
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You are talking about communication software. Chinese smart watches usually have just a subset of such functionality. It means you won't get everything pushed. But you can try to look for such software at the market. Search for key words like "notification" "smart watch" and so on.
chinesesmartwatch said:
You are talking about communication software. Chinese smart watches usually have just a subset of such functionality. It means you won't get everything pushed. But you can try to look for such software at the market. Search for key words like "notification" "smart watch" and so on.
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well if that if the case i have tried many different apps and nothing works so i guess i am s.o.l. and need to return the watch so i can find one that does what i want. i really like this watch though because it is running full android 4.4 with full access to any app in the play store.
Dfire87 said:
2.) I have read that it is possible to create your own clock faces.
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look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sm...evelopment-t3510348/post73395168#post73395168
how to install whatsapp? keep popping prompt shown security alert n can't even turn off d prompt,
Dm 98 stuck in layout mode
I was an idiot was messing with developer options and got it stuck in layout out mode can't close the down to get to main screen the edges are past the pinch to make smaller. With one button can't do hard reset it's not rooted so it doesn't show up when I plug it into computer is there any way to fix this or am I stuck with basically a brick. I really love this device. Can you guys help.
my watch not opening. when i press power button there is nothing happen. what can i do? is there anyway to reset with a button on this watch?
Hi, I have a question, how we do for have the sms on the watch via bluetooth?
Reset
Have you ever tried resetting the smartwatch there's like a small pin hole in the very back of it take something to stick in it the watch will shut off and you just restart the watch back up and that should have fixed the issue
No 1, you can try these aps to enhance your dm98
1. Watch android phone
2. Android control panel
3. Heads up notifications
4. Rotation control
[SOLVED] Still getting used to the tiny keyboard, I had a typo.
I just got the Dev C14 (Bluetooth reports it's actually the DM98) and when I try to log into the Playstore with my existing account, I get past the email and password, but then it says to "Type in the text you see here" with a prompt but I don't see the text. Can anyone help please?
Cannot connect DM98 to Galaxy S8 Active
Hello fellow smartwatch owners. I have the DM98 like the size memory WiFI but cannot get it to connect to my Samsung Galaxy S8 Active. The phone shows the watch and vis a versa, they both are paired, but when they connect the connection is lost right away. Please help if you can
Chuck
Dfire87 said:
let me clarify a little bit.... i want to do this all through bluetooth. i have tried a bunch of apps and none see my DM98 Smartwatch as a bluetooth headset or anything of the like so i am a little confused with the explanation.
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For downloading software use wifi. Start with Google play, etc. Best for installing software is to do it from your computer: just log in to Google Play windows.
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Donkeyloco said:
Hello fellow smartwatch owners. I have the DM98 like the size memory WiFI but cannot get it to connect to my Samsung Galaxy S8 Active. The phone shows the watch and vis a versa, they both are paired, but when they connect the connection is lost right away. Please help if you can
Chuck
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Personally I use the much more stable Droid Phone and Droid Watch, on Google Play.
Hi
I have a FitCloudPro App based Chinese smart watch probably called LA23 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004403438987.html) . Here I'm not getting an option to Transfer calls from Watch to phone, once picked up on the watch.
Scenario:
I use BT earphones and smartwatch all the time, but whenever a call comes and I receive on my smartwatch it never transfer to my earbuds until I switch it manually. (Ps. there is no setting on watch to transfer a call to watch.)
Current Settings:
Watch connected to smartwatch and Earbuds are connected to same phone.
Watch Media audio and mode is on.
Condition:
On a bike/at gym it is problematic when a call comes to phone, I want to transfer this call to phone from smartwatch so that I can use my earbuds to talk.
Is there any way to do it?
when a call comes I can receive on watch but when I press the button of my watch it can transfer to my phone?
It will be a great help if you can solve.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Mayank
it's not a watch issue. application is an arbitrator. watch only sends info to app about your action. while app are route the streams.
it's possible if you'll write your own app or you'll find compatible app with disired functional. and seem a first more feasible.
vxsw said:
it's not a watch issue. application is an arbitrator. watch only sends info to app about your action. while app are route the streams.
it's possible if you'll write your own app or you'll find compatible app with disired functional. and seem a first more feasible.
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Hi, thanks for you reply!
I'm not much technical to code my own app.
Although I have read your another thread about the LA21, and this is the same brand watch called LA23.
If you have some suggestions about to code an App as you understand this watch mode deeply or can you suggest me an App that have this call functionality?
it would be much helpful!
thanks
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Although I have read your another thread about the LA21, and this is the same brand watch called LA23.
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perhaps it was a la10. I had this model and had make few tools for it, but it's a complettely different. la10 is a very easy in program part. la23 looks like my new watch - dm50. at least it have an identical chip (RealtekRTL8763EW), similar functions and fitcloud pro as a companion app.
it's a way harder. as in app part, as in watch face format. I try to learn it, but on watch face format investigation yet.
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If you have some suggestions about to code an App as you understand this watch mode deeply or can you suggest me an App that have this call functionality?
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I'm not a programmer (even didn't know about kotlin a half year ago), so it's a bit hard for me too.
so if a la23 similar as a dm50, I think I can't reassure you. it's not treat as usual "medical device". it have a dual connection mode. and audio part defines as a wireless headset. you can see it in bt devices in phone settings. so as I understood it's not so often feature for smartwatches and in this case, I don't think what you can find any compatible app.
"ble-starter" is a very good point for beginning, but evet this need much reworking.
vxsw said:
perhaps it was a la10. I had this model and had make few tools for it, but it's a complettely different. la10 is a very easy in program part. la23 looks like my new watch - dm50. at least it have an identical chip (RealtekRTL8763EW), similar functions and fitcloud pro as a companion app.
it's a way harder. as in app part, as in watch face format. I try to learn it, but on watch face format investigation yet.
I'm not a programmer (even didn't know about kotlin a half year ago), so it's a bit hard for me too.
so if a la23 similar as a dm50, I think I can't reassure you. it's not treat as usual "medical device". it have a dual connection mode. and audio part defines as a wireless headset. you can see it in bt devices in phone settings. so as I understood it's not so often feature for smartwatches and in this case, I don't think what you can find any compatible app.
"ble-starter" is a very good point for beginning, but evet this need much reworking.
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Thanks for your response!
Yes, you are right it has 2 bluetooth connection for call BT3.0 and notification BT5.2.
I'm trying to install Ble_starter apk as you attached in your LA10 thread. But its not installing on my phone.
I'm using RogPhone2.
Mayannk said:
I'm trying to install Ble_starter apk
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may be must have an another target platform on compilation. but anyway, it would not work with this device. it have an another type of authorization (with confirmation). la10 allow to connect automatically without confirm. it required much reworking.
btw, may be more than enough to find app what would just force select device to talk? seems it's more easy way to solve your problem.
vxsw said:
may be must have an another target platform on compilation. but anyway, it would not work with this device. it have an another type of authorization (with confirmation). la10 allow to connect automatically without confirm. it required much reworking.
btw, may be more than enough to find app what would just force select device to talk? seems it's more easy way to solve your problem.
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Okay, thanks
I'll try this to find first.