I just received this watch yesterday, bought it through Aliexpress (search "SWatch K2" or "Kingelon K2").
Review: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/05/22/star-kingelon-review-of-smart-watch-android-os-4-2/
@@ Pandawill also stock this now @@
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3q_ZIZkYM&feature=kp
This is a complete replica of the Galaxy Gear. Build quality is excellent, looks like they use all the same screen, shell and band (with camera) of the original GG. Sealed non-replacable battery in a relatively thin body (about 11mm, same as GG1).
It uses MTK6572, has 4G ROM (about 1.1G usable), 512MB RAM. Pity there is no microSD slot to expand the memory.
It has only one button (to switch on watch / wake screen, and be the Home button). To navigate, swipe down from top = back, swipe up from bottom = menu.
There is a true Android 4.2.2 device and not some cheapo phonewatch with Java apps. There is access to Developer's options and USB Debugging (mine was set "on" already). This allows use of ADB to install apks.
No there is no Google Play store, no built-in web browser or video player. I am sure you can install these apps manually (I dunno how to install the Google Play package and I dont intend to do that).
Yes there is wifi, bluetooth (connects to my BT keyboard and working) and GPS (not tested).
I have not really tried out the apps, but they are pretty standard ones. I have also not tested the connection manager to the phone.
What I have done is so far are:
(1) Root the watch - after many failures using MTK Droid Tools, Framaroot, eroot etc., a friend gave me a tip about this chinese root tool called Kingroot. It is very successful in rooting most if not all chinese phones particularly those using Mediatek chips.
It installs its own version of superuser called kinguser, and its own version of su binaries. I thought what the heck lets give it a try, and it rooted the watch on the first run, and has no problem since.
Kingroot download page (Google translate) - choose "Kingroot PC ..." version
The program is in chinese. Installation was full of funky unreadable characters but most of the responses eg yes / no are the highlighted buttons. After installation, there is only one button to press. Just like all other one-click root programs, enable USB debugging on the watch, plug into USB cable and click the button, and it will do it all for you. Your watch should have rebooted when the process finishes.
(2) Back up the firmware using MTK Droid Tools + SP Flash tools - I followed this guide:
http://pinoyscreencast.net/how-to/get-full-rom-dump-stock-rom-mt6572-mediatek-smartphones-using-spft-mtk-droid-root-tools/
CONCLUSION:
This is a great find!! Excellent build quality, lightyears ahead of ZGPAX and SmartQ ZWatch. The hardware is similar to the Omate Truesmart / InWatch Z, except it is 4G ROM / 512 RAM with about 1.1Gb internal memory usable. I can live with this for the price of < USD 100.
You should go and buy this watch now because it is going to sell like hot potatoes. I am not going to test all the apps or answer questions about them, because they should work the same as Omate TS.
I am NOT a developer so dont ask me to do this and that cuz I dont know how to. I only back up the firmware in case I screw the watch up.
Hope that someone more knowledgeable would buy this watch to tweak and develop it. Then you can ask him questions.
I noticed this watch as well a couple of days ago. It looks pretty good, but the thing that still concerns me is the capacity of the battery, which is only 350mAh.. What are your experiences with the battery life so far?
was looking at getting one of these.
few questions:
is the camera quity okay?
are the photos saved to the phone or on the watch?
is the watch readable outside?
thanks bud
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Bought one waiting for it
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!! Major setback !!
!! MAJOR SETBACK !!
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Thank you doner03 for the solution - keyboard on smartphone will automatically pop up when you need to type something eg. click on writing aread of notepad app, when watch is connected to phone by BT and SWatch manager (smartphone companion) app running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53405588&postcount=16
(1) Don't bother installing a virtual keyboard on the watch - there is no input menu in Settings to change keyboard settings and set default keyboard. If you use a keyboard switcher app eg. Quick Keyboard Switch, it will force close when you run it.
(2) Although BT keyboard works with the watch, once you install SWatch manager app, the BT keyboards will stop working. You cannot delete the paired BT keyboard from the BT menu, and if you paired BT keyboard and your smartphone, it may make SWatch manager stop working. If you can use your phone to type on the watch, there is no point pairing your watch with another BT keyboard anyway.
timtop said:
!! MAJOR SETBACK !!
The watch does not come with any virtual (onscreen) keyboard. I also discover it is NOT possible to use an onscreen keyboard, because the input functionality has been removed by the manufacturer:
If you go to Settings, there is only "Language" (normally this says "Language and Input" in the usual Android devices). There are no options to enable, change settings on, and set default to keyboards.
I googled and found a post describing how to use ADB shell to enable and set (as default) keyboards. I followed the instruction but it does not work.
I asked in that same forum (the respected Android Stack Overflow website), and I got an answer confirming my suspicion that this function has been removed on this watch.
It is not as simple as the access menu has been hidden or missing.
It would be nice to have an onscreen keyboard, and I guess either BT keyboard or phone keyboard via the phone companion app have to do!
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i have this watch i just installed google search .apk and use the voice typing on search bars it doesnt always work but most of the time it does
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92jacko said:
was looking at getting one of these.
few questions:
is the camera quity okay?
are the photos saved to the phone or on the watch?
is the watch readable outside?
thanks bud
Sent from my C5303 using Tapatalk
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yes camera is nice (5mp)
photos are saved to watch but can very easy be beamed to phone with a click threw manager app (comes with watch) same with video
yes the screen is the same quality as of the gear it is ok outside
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UntoldStories said:
I noticed this watch as well a couple of days ago. It looks pretty good, but the thing that still concerns me is the capacity of the battery, which is only 350mAh.. What are your experiences with the battery life so far?
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full charge and with you not playing with it every min last about 6 hours or less give or take heavy use (Pandora running) under 5
Keyboard is a BIG problem
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Thank you doner03 for the solution - keyboard on smartphone will automatically pop up when you need to type something eg. click on writing aread of notepad app, when watch is connected to phone by BT and SWatch manager app running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53405588&postcount=16
(1) Don't bother installing a virtual keyboard on the watch - there is no input menu in Settings to change keyboard settings and set default keyboard. If you use a keyboard switcher app eg. Quick Keyboard Switch, it will force close when you run it.
(2) Although BT keyboard works with the watch, once you install SWatch manager app, the BT keyboards will stop working. You cannot delete the paired BT keyboard from the BT menu, and if you paired BT keyboard and your smartphone, it may make SWatch manager stop working. If you can use your phone to type on the watch, there is no point pairing your watch with another BT keyboard anyway.
timtop said:
I dont believe it, THERE IS NO VIRTUAL KEYBOARD in the SWatch Manager (smartphone companion)!! And why the FRAK did they take keyboard input access away from the watch so that we cant install KBs outselves?
How the hell do I type?? (sorry voice search is slow inaccurate and need BT connection). Without KB, you cannot use the watch to browse the internet or make notes etc.
The SmartDevice (maker of SmartQ ZWatch) scores in SW development - they actually think and add useful things such as (1) keyboard input (through the phone and watch companion) and (2) "auto screen on / show time when you raise your wrist to look at the watch" (by gyro sensors).
(1) keyboard problem - although I can pair BT keyboards with the watch, as soon as I pair the smartphone with SWatchManager app, I cannot get the BT keyboards to pair and work anymore.
(2) auto screen on / show time when you look at the watch - I tried both "Autoscreen on off" and "Gravity Screen" from Play store, which should provide this function. However, both apps force close when I run them. I suspect the watch only has simple gravity sensor but not the more sophisticated accelerometer and/or gyroscopic sensors.
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well my google voice search is very accurate on this watch it just doesnt work on all apps it does on facebook in the watch and chrome browser and it does not require bt it required wifi on
coolkid893 said:
i have this watch i just installed google search .apk and use the voice typing on search bars it doesnt always work but most of the time it does
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How do you install apk's on this watch?
timtop said:
(2) auto screen on / show time when you look at the watch - I tried both "Autoscreen on off" and "Gravity Screen" from Play store, which should provide this function. However, both apps force close when I run them. I suspect the watch only has simple gravity sensor but not the more sophisticated accelerometer and/or gyroscopic sensors.
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You might need to install an older or earlier version of "Autoscreen on off" and "Gravity Screen" if available, search for it via google. You won't get it from the default app store.
Earlier version might not force close.
timtop said:
i just received this watch yesterday, bought it through aliexpress (search "swatch k2" or "kingelon k2").
Review: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/05/22/star-kingelon-review-of-smart-watch-android-os-4-2/
@@ pandawill also stock this now @@
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap3q_zizkym&feature=kp
this is a complete replica of the galaxy gear. Build quality is excellent, looks like they use all the same screen, shell and band (with camera) of the original gg. Sealed non-replacable battery in a relatively thin body (about 11mm, same as gg1).
It uses mtk6572, has 2g rom (about 1.1g usable), 512mb ram. Pity there is no microsd slot to expand the memory.
It has only one button (to switch on watch / wake screen, and be the home button). To navigate, swipe down from top = back, swipe up from bottom = menu.
There is a true android 4.2.2 device and not some cheapo phonewatch with java apps. There is access to developer's options and usb debugging (mine was set "on" already). This allows use of adb to install apks.
No there is no google play store, no built-in web browser or video player. I am sure you can install these apps manually (i dunno how to install the google play package and i dont intend to do that).
Yes there is wifi, bluetooth (connects to my bt keyboard and working) and gps (not tested).
I have not really tried out the apps, but they are pretty standard ones. I have also not tested the connection manager to the phone.
What i have done is so far are:
(1) root the watch - after many failures using mtk droid tools, framaroot, eroot etc., i came across the omate truesmart root tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713183
this is the only root tool that works on this watch, probably because the ts (aw414) uses the same mtk6572 and android 4.2.2. I used root checker to make sure root is working.
(2) back up the firmware using mtk droid tools + sp flash tools - i followed this guide:
http://pinoyscreencast.net/how-to/get-full-rom-dump-stock-rom-mt6572-mediatek-smartphones-using-spft-mtk-droid-root-tools/
after the rom dump process went through smoothly, i tried to reload the backup firmware: All the different parts of the firmware are there except "uboot.img". The author of the above guide also mentioned this file was missing, but he found out that it was renamed to something else. In my rom dump, there is no additional file which is unaccounted for and might be the image file. I dunno if you absolutely need this "uboot.img" to unbrick the watch.
Conclusion:
This is a great find!! Excellent build quality, lightyears ahead of zgpax and smartq zwatch. The hardware is similar to the omate truesmart / inwatch z, except it is 2g rom / 512 ram. I can live with this for the price of < usd 100.
You should go and buy this watch now because it is going to sell like hot potatoes. I am not going to test all the apps or answer questions about them, because they should work the same as omate ts.
I am not a developer so dont ask me to do this and that cuz i dont know how to. I only back up the firmware in case i screw the watch up.
Hope that someone more knowledgeable would buy this watch to tweak and develop it. Then you can ask him questions.
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i am very knowledgeable with this watch and i warn you all do not try this root he is tellING you that works and iT very well might but the risk is exetremely high unless your a dev and will soft brick you phone even possibly hard brick please wait for a experienced dev makes a root tool and
ps if you soft bricked your watch doing this root
adb into your watch an erase cache and reboot
coolkid893 said:
i am very knowledgeable with this watch and i warn you all do not try this root he is tellING you that works and iT very well might but the risk is exetremely high unless your a dev and will soft brick you phone even possibly hard brick please wait for a experienced dev makes a root tool and
ps if you soft bricked your watch doing this root
adb into your watch an erase cache and reboot
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I lost root after doing factory reset, and I could not regain root using the same method (Omate Truesmart root tool).
However, a friend gave me a tip about this chinese root tool called Kingroot. It is very successful in rooting most if not all chinese phones particularly those using Mediatek chips.
It installs its own version of superuser called kinguser, and its own version of su binaries. I thought what the heck lets give it a try, and it rooted the watch on the first run, and has no problem since.
Kingroot download page (Google translate) - choose "Kingroot PC ..." version
The program is in chinese. Installation was full of funky unreadable characters but most of the responses eg yes / no are the highlighted buttons. After installation, there is only one button to press. Just like all other one-click root programs, enable USB debugging on the watch, plug into USB cable and click the button, and it will do it all for you. Your watch should have rebooted when the process finishes.
coolkid893 said:
i am very knowledgeable with this watch and i warn you all do not try this root he is tellING you that works and iT very well might but the risk is exetremely high unless your a dev and will soft brick you phone even possibly hard brick please wait for a experienced dev makes a root tool and
ps if you soft bricked your watch doing this root
adb into your watch an erase cache and reboot
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Just ordered one of these. any tips tricks or advice would be appreciated
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coolkid893 said:
i have this watch i just installed google search .apk and use the voice typing on search bars it doesnt always work but most of the time it does
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yes camera is nice (5mp)
photos are saved to watch but can very easy be beamed to phone with a click threw manager app (comes with watch) same with video
yes the screen is the same quality as of the gear it is ok outside
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full charge and with you not playing with it every min last about 6 hours or less give or take heavy use (Pandora running) under 5
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Hello,
How do you install google search on this watch
Thanks
bab1c said:
Hello,
How do you install google search on this watch
Thanks
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download the google search .apk (newest version) to phone (i like to use the download folder in phone its makes it easyer to find in phone) with your phone open the smanager app use remote file manager
click the three white dots at the top right click send file select sdcard0 then find were you placed the google search.apk (in my case i told it to go to teh download folder) in your phone
when you find the apk click it it will bluetooth transfer the apk to your watch when it is done
Part 2 go into your watch opens apps look for file manager in watch click phone storage look for were you put the search apk (remember i used the download folder) then click the apk then it will prompt you to install app click install the there you go
p.s dont install every app you see because some apps will crash the watch even popular apps (mostly apps that look at your contacts these apps really screw the watch up) skype works but contacts in watch will no longer work once installed (untill you uninstall)gmail works chrome works google maps works (do not turn on gps you can only look at the maps you can not do a gps search with google maps) it will crash the watch gps function is kinda of a joke in this watch
or
in watch under dev options turn on usb debugging
unplug then replug in the watch to pc it will ask to turn on usb storage click it then the watch files will pop up on the pc drag the apks to the watch then just follow
part 2
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akira712 said:
Just ordered one of these. any tips tricks or advice would be appreciated
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yes dont try to root it its pointless at this point and risky
install google search apk it is the only app that comes close to a keyboard that can work in this watch
do not leave wifi on in watch if your not using wifi it will kill the watch very fast
i know when you first get it its a new toy and your gonna play with it for awhile but they ship the watch completely dead so let it fully charger before you play and remember if you try to use this watch as a extra android device to browse the web or emails 30 times a day and not just as a watch it will only last about 4 hours if that
If anyone wants to type on a field on the swatch, when you are on it , on the swatch manager on the phone will open a window to type on the phone keyboard , it is not necesary to have a keyboard on the swatch
doner03 said:
If anyone wants to type on a field on the swatch, when you are on it , on the swatch manager on the phone will open a window to type on the phone keyboard , it is not necesary to have a keyboard on the swatch
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lol ya we know that but its a pain in the a** were talking about a keyboard in the watch
Can anyone verify this? Kingo root? I've tried everything frama root can't get to the method button Idk if it's DPI or what.
Major mayhem works perfect. Couldn't connect moga pro had idea if I could use hid mode that I could get the methods no luck.
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Picture I took with swatch
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So I fount a ton of interesting things about it I got it rooted and it appears to already have google framework just missing play store and and input the build prop also has a lot turned off anyone tried this? I hate to break but I even fount the time format and I believe it be changed from 24 to 12
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I started on the wrong foot, but finally found that it likes Android 1.6 Apps!
- Angry Birds!!!!!! (with music and usable, albeit, it just takes a little time to Start just Once Initially, the everything is quite normalish after initial start..... But the initial Splash screen looks so cool on the smartwatch it is worth the wait).
- Dolphin Browser
- Opera Mini Browser
Hints:
- To download anything in Opera Mini, select the DCIM folder, it seems it does not like to download on initial root. Warning, it is not fast downloading.
- When typing remember that it is a good idea that when typing in the small keyboard, that if you are fast, and keep pressing a key and notice it was not the one you intended, before releasing the key, if you do it fast enough, you can move your finger towards the correct key before releasing your finger. This is much faster than having to delete a wrong entered letter. If you keep pressing and fail to move fast, it would suggest alternative based on the wrong letter and you can no longer move to next, but if you click elsewhere, it won't type the wrong letter.
- Dolphin Browser is great because you can define shortcuts for common menus (remember you don't have a menu key), with its gestures. I made a gesture for settings and other to go to downloads and for full screen!
More Apps come!!
Please Share your Apps!!!
More Apps!
- Aptoid works quite fine to install new apps.
- Backgammon Free
- Bazooka Rabbit works! (albeit, not all the screen appears, but it is playable).
- ES File Explorer
- .... more to try ...
Are you running the latest 2.1 os?
I'd be interested to see these apps in action on the watch. Anyone want to make a youtube video?
Rooted it
speedyink said:
I'd be interested to see these apps in action on the watch. Anyone want to make a youtube video?
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I just recently got my imwatch and I'm already using the amazing side loader machine to load random apps onto it. I'll try to get a video going of it if I can but otherwise not many apps seem to work on it. If you can give me some ideas and a link to the apk to make things easier I will have more examples to show.
Great little thread. Lets hope more people post the names of more suitable useful apps.
saint3251 said:
I just recently got my imwatch and I'm already using the amazing side loader machine to load random apps onto it. I'll try to get a video going of it if I can but otherwise not many apps seem to work on it. If you can give me some ideas and a link to the apk to make things easier I will have more examples to show.
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I'd be interested to see how some apps work compared to my Motoactv. So some examples would be emulators such as gbcoid, snesoid and n64oid. Maybe some android games such as Hill Climb, and Hardest Game Ever. Apps, I dunno, maybe root explorer (or just explorer), a browser (I use boat browser mini), and mxplayer playing a video would be cool to see. Everything but the emulators I just got off the Google Play store. If you can't access the store on the I'm Watch yet I remember being able to take apps off my phone. Just download the app on your phone, then use a file manager to browse to /data/app/, then send it to your computer (I use bluetooth). I can send you the emulator apk's, just PM me your e-mail.
Use bluestack make it easier to grab the apk and download multiple apps at the same time,
Games or apps compatible with android 1.6 will have a much better chance of working...
Good info
apps
Got some more apps that seem to work on the i'm watch after the 2.1.2 adb update
go jkeyboard works
mobicalc
advanced task killer
voice search kinda works, cant find netwrok connection. would like someone to get that working.
dropbox works
graffiti pro keyboard works
dolphin browser works
gesture search
but there arent many people who are rooting and or doing things for the watch,. So if you can give me any ideas as to what to do to it or how I'd appreciate it,. Such as unlocking the bootloader
What I'm finding is that anything where you can draw or speak is more useful for this watch.\
rooting with super on click was the best way of doing it honestly .
Ok so I found a useful group of apks that make customization something a greater thing.
email me @ [email protected]
for the link. (don't have enough posts for links)
Thanks!
There is a new ADB version out. The last was 2.1.2 but now there is a 2.2.0 which I am going to update to now and attempt to see if it changes much.
Heres hoping.
how do you install those apps on the watch , i just got me a i'm watch 2 weeks ago and this sounds interesting:good:
eddol20 said:
how do you install those apps on the watch , i just got me a i'm watch 2 weeks ago and this sounds interesting:good:
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Well theres two ways to do it.
1. you can do the whole rooting process by getting the ADB software from imwatch and using super one click to root it then install it through a sideload manager.
2. you can download all the apks in there and go to the im market and get Sideload Manager app from there. Then you'd put the apks in the DCIM folder and go through the Sideload Manager and install it that way.
Note: You should disconnect from the pc when trying to install through sideload manager app for option two.
Hello, could anyone help me check "Endomondo" and/or "Runtastic" apps can work on the I'm Watch pls?
Very BIG thanks !
I'm watch with last july firmware
Hi all with this smartwatch. How is it with the last update? Better sound in conversation?
Or still buggy?
Thanks all
cob94440 said:
Hi all with this smartwatch. How is it with the last update? Better sound in conversation?
Or still buggy?
Thanks all
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It's still pretty buggy. But from the things I've seen android phones have apps that are capable of handling and changing the volume and etc on there.
Don't quote me but its just what I've heard. I have an iPhone 5 so I can't really share from experience.
saint3251 said:
It's still pretty buggy. But from the things I've seen android phones have apps that are capable of handling and changing the volume and etc on there.
Don't quote me but its just what I've heard. I have an iPhone 5 so I can't really share from experience.
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Same problem ... The calling from watch is bad ((
How do you get hangouts to work with this watch? Also other apps like whats app and KIK
Im not sure if this is supposed to be posted here but Xda has not made an omate rise section.
Ive recently received my omate rise smartwatch, its a decent device though lacking app content for the moment since there is no google play support. I have several annoyance with it but especially the keyboard, the stock firmware uses a "sample soft keyboard" which is packaged as "com.example.android.softkeyboard" its a horrible keyboard on its own but its supposed to be used in conjunction with the phone app Olink. When you tap the keyboard on the watch while BT tethered to a phone, the Olink app supposed to popup a second keyboard which you can input and send it to the watch input fields.
This sounds good and all but doesnt work with all the time. so i installed various other keyboards i.e google keyboard, minuum, etc. They all have a strange issue where when the keyboard options or keyboard is called up there is a black solid overlay that blocks the view no matter what. can anyone help.
also if anyone know a way to install google play that would be good, also even though i ordered the dev version, the device does not come with SU binaries and not rooted. omate just avoids the question altogether
Play Store install will require somebody make a custom recovery for it. Seeing that Omate has burned so many developers and XDA, the chances of that happening are slim. To be honest, selling it is your best option as according to Omate, every watch they sell is a "dev version". This pretty much means you are on your own.
Be aware of this company and thear products!
Ive received broken watch, after that Ive send it back to the omate office in HK, they promise me to refund the shipping back costs. As for now they received the parcel, they refuse to repair it and start the procedure of refund, the pay me on my paypal not the full amount as Ive pay on Indiegogo (the chose me to pay the 11.43 USD commision for this transaction) and refuse to refund me shipping back costs. Be aware of this scamers!!!
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Im not sure if this is supposed to be posted here but Xda has not made an omate rise section.
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I wisch that too and write it here down. Feel free to participate: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/about-xda/miss-omate-rise-smartwatch-xiaomi-yi-t3487228
zero_ap said:
Ive recently received my omate rise smartwatch, its a decent device though lacking app content for the moment since there is no google play support.
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I got a Omate Rise from a private ebay seller for about 2 weeks for my brother. I made a lot of updates and there is now a GooglePlay store on it by OTA-Update. But I search for a better app for circular displays. I hope I can grab the play:store apk from the fresh Android Wear 2.0 preview 3 rom. You can get it here https://developer.android.com/wear/preview/downloads.html, extract this with winrar and look into the system with ext4_unpacker_exe.zip .
PlayStore and the menu look really nice:
zero_ap said:
I have several annoyance with it but especially the keyboard, the stock firmware uses a "sample soft keyboard" which is packaged as "com.example.android.softkeyboard" its a horrible keyboard on its own but its supposed to be used in conjunction with the phone app Olink. When you tap the keyboard on the watch while BT tethered to a phone, the Olink app supposed to popup a second keyboard which you can input and send it to the watch input fields.
This sounds good and all but doesnt work with all the time. so i installed various other keyboards i.e google keyboard, minuum, etc. They all have a strange issue where when the keyboard options or keyboard is called up there is a black solid overlay that blocks the view no matter what. can anyone help.
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Jup the keyboard ist still the bigest problem.
Currently there is LatinIME.apk installed per default from OTA/stuck rom. I try some keyboards and the could be the OneTouch keyboard. Looks really nice for the small display:
Also for round displays. It was a kickstarter. I was able to activate beta testing in google play store but sadly I can not buy the in-app-purchase with the current stock-rom:
After starting there is a relly really shor time the purchase button:
Then it is gone:
But when I can press/touch the button it fails because on the payment:
I can touch "Weiter" and I can fill out my paypal-payment data with "adb shell input text 'my-text'":
But at the end he did not accept my billing method:
The non-beta has a working IME-Keyboard but there something I missed so, I changed back to stock IME (LatinIME).
You should get the non-beta version here:
https://apkpure.com/touchone-keyboard-wear-preview/net.infiniti.touchone.touchone
Funny is that there is no IME-Menu from the setting of the rom
If an app, like touchpal keyboard, does not open the ime menu, I need to do it with adb:
Some xda users try the minuum wear app on the moto-360, looks ready for testing it on the omate rise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/minuum-keyboard-android-wear-t2871609
http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=ca045cd04e580f1a87d5b9c63&id=aca556d7a0
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also if anyone know a way to install google play that would be good, also even though i ordered the dev version, the device does not come with SU binaries and not rooted. omate just avoids the question altogether
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I had no idea how to get the SU binary into the xbon folder but I think should be easily done on this stock-FW.
And as I am allready writing: just make OTA updates.
Greetings by I_did_it_just_tmrrowhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3729682
Got this watch /phone whatever. Not terrible but not great. What keyboard y'all using. Mines has Google play and apk shop and Alexa with updates. Although I cannot type in search.
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Use Vysor or Mobizen to extend your display to your PC to better access the hidden corners and menu items that the round screen blocks.
Applications are not available on the Play Store for the Rise but you can download them from apkpure.com, transfer them to your Rise and install
them using the File Manager.
Wifi File Transfer is an easy way to copy files over, as is Airdroid or Android File Transfer.
Good luck getting any support from the developer for this watch, it's at EOL and not even out of Beta.
jchisholm said:
Use Vysor or Mobizen to extend your display to your PC to better access the hidden corners and menu items that the round screen blocks.
Applications are not available on the Play Store for the Rise but you can download them from apkpure.com, transfer them to your Rise and install
them using the File Manager.
Wifi File Transfer is an easy way to copy files over, as is Airdroid or Android File Transfer.
Good luck getting any support from the developer for this watch, it's at EOL and not even out of Beta.
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I have heard. I'm a waiter and it's cool to be able to send a text without taking out my phone.. The olink app sucks to, might just resell it. Don't think this was one of my smarter purchases lol. Thanks.
Also anyone find the button kinda hard?
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Hi i just got my DM98 smartwatch and had a few questions for anybody that has the answers.
1.) I got the watch synced to my phone and i wanted to be able to send and receive text messages, make and receive phone calls, and use the internet.
Question: is there an app or trick to make this possible or am i just S.O.L. ?
2.) I have read that it is possible to create your own clock faces.
Question: Is there a guide that details how to do this?
3.) Question; if i want to do anything do i need to root?
These are all the questions i have at the moment. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Dfire87 said:
1.) I got the watch synced to my phone and i wanted to be able to send and receive text messages, make and receive phone calls, and use the internet.
Question: is there an app or trick to make this possible or am i just S.O.L. ?
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The trick is simple - go to the play market and look for notification software with a set of features you want.
Dfire87 said:
2.) I have read that it is possible to create your own clock faces.
Question: Is there a guide that details how to do this?
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The guide is simple - you should write your program. It's the most flexible way. Second option - you can go to the market and look for face designer or similar application. It' limited, of course, but you can try it. Third option - get watch face that you like and go into it's folder. There you'll find some pictures and may be fonts. Now you can delete the pictures and replace them with your own (with same name, of course), then restart your watch face application and you'll see your pictures instead of removed. It's most limited customization, but it's simplest.
Here is one watch face application.
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3.) Question; if i want to do anything do i need to root?
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If you really want to do ANYTHING you in fact need a lot of money first.
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The trick is simple - go to the play market and look for notification software with a set of features you want.
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let me clarify a little bit.... i want to do this all through bluetooth. i have tried a bunch of apps and none see my DM98 Smartwatch as a bluetooth headset or anything of the like so i am a little confused with the explanation.
Dfire87 said:
let me clarify a little bit.... i want to do this all through bluetooth. i have tried a bunch of apps and none see my DM98 Smartwatch as a bluetooth headset or anything of the like so i am a little confused with the explanation.
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It shouldn't be a headset. It should be something like phone or smartphone with the ability to transfer any data. To connect to DM98 first turn bluetooth on on both devices (DM98 and your phone), next make one of the devices available to connection requests, then the device will advertise itself and second device should see it. When it's seen just touch it and select "pair". Only after this you can start your notification software and use it's communication features.
In short - you should pair devices BEFORE any third party application can do something for you. The pairing is performed using Android's bluetooth settings, no third parties should be involved.
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It shouldn't be a headset. It should be something like phone or smartphone with the ability to transfer any data. To connect to DM98 first turn bluetooth on on both devices (DM98 and your phone), next make one of the devices available to connection requests, then the device will advertise itself and second device should see it. When it's seen just touch it and select "pair". Only after this you can start your notification software and use it's communication features.
In short - you should pair devices BEFORE any third party application can do something for you. The pairing is performed using Android's bluetooth settings, no third parties should be involved.
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still not 100% sure what your saying. i want the dm98 smartwatch to function like the samsung gear s (the only smartwatch i have used that does what i like) as in while it bluetoothed to my phone everything (calls, sms, and data) can be pushed from my phone to the watch. it has a nano sim card slot available but i dont need this because i always have my phone on me.
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still not 100% sure what your saying. i want the dm98 smartwatch to function like the samsung gear s (the only smartwatch i have used that does what i like) as in while it bluetoothed to my phone everything (calls, sms, and data) can be pushed from my phone to the watch. it has a nano sim card slot available but i dont need this because i always have my phone on me.
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You are talking about communication software. Chinese smart watches usually have just a subset of such functionality. It means you won't get everything pushed. But you can try to look for such software at the market. Search for key words like "notification" "smart watch" and so on.
chinesesmartwatch said:
You are talking about communication software. Chinese smart watches usually have just a subset of such functionality. It means you won't get everything pushed. But you can try to look for such software at the market. Search for key words like "notification" "smart watch" and so on.
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well if that if the case i have tried many different apps and nothing works so i guess i am s.o.l. and need to return the watch so i can find one that does what i want. i really like this watch though because it is running full android 4.4 with full access to any app in the play store.
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2.) I have read that it is possible to create your own clock faces.
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look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sm...evelopment-t3510348/post73395168#post73395168
how to install whatsapp? keep popping prompt shown security alert n can't even turn off d prompt,
Dm 98 stuck in layout mode
I was an idiot was messing with developer options and got it stuck in layout out mode can't close the down to get to main screen the edges are past the pinch to make smaller. With one button can't do hard reset it's not rooted so it doesn't show up when I plug it into computer is there any way to fix this or am I stuck with basically a brick. I really love this device. Can you guys help.
my watch not opening. when i press power button there is nothing happen. what can i do? is there anyway to reset with a button on this watch?
Hi, I have a question, how we do for have the sms on the watch via bluetooth?
Reset
Have you ever tried resetting the smartwatch there's like a small pin hole in the very back of it take something to stick in it the watch will shut off and you just restart the watch back up and that should have fixed the issue
No 1, you can try these aps to enhance your dm98
1. Watch android phone
2. Android control panel
3. Heads up notifications
4. Rotation control
[SOLVED] Still getting used to the tiny keyboard, I had a typo.
I just got the Dev C14 (Bluetooth reports it's actually the DM98) and when I try to log into the Playstore with my existing account, I get past the email and password, but then it says to "Type in the text you see here" with a prompt but I don't see the text. Can anyone help please?
Cannot connect DM98 to Galaxy S8 Active
Hello fellow smartwatch owners. I have the DM98 like the size memory WiFI but cannot get it to connect to my Samsung Galaxy S8 Active. The phone shows the watch and vis a versa, they both are paired, but when they connect the connection is lost right away. Please help if you can
Chuck
Dfire87 said:
let me clarify a little bit.... i want to do this all through bluetooth. i have tried a bunch of apps and none see my DM98 Smartwatch as a bluetooth headset or anything of the like so i am a little confused with the explanation.
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For downloading software use wifi. Start with Google play, etc. Best for installing software is to do it from your computer: just log in to Google Play windows.
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Donkeyloco said:
Hello fellow smartwatch owners. I have the DM98 like the size memory WiFI but cannot get it to connect to my Samsung Galaxy S8 Active. The phone shows the watch and vis a versa, they both are paired, but when they connect the connection is lost right away. Please help if you can
Chuck
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Personally I use the much more stable Droid Phone and Droid Watch, on Google Play.
anyone got it like me? any custom rom available or community for tweaks
Change Language:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWWEO5rbvMg
Install other apps on watch:
1. Enable Bluetooth on smartwatch & phone.
2. Connect them with eachother.
3. Enable the installation from unknown source on your watch. (settings > security > unknown source)
4. Download APK-File on your computer.
5. Once the APK is on your computer, share it via Bluetooth to your Arrow Smartwatch. (if you don’t know, just google how to share files with Bluetooth, it’s very easy)
6. Once you’ve pressed the sharing button, you’ll have to accept the file on your watch.
(Swipe down from the top of your Arrow screen, to open the notification bar. Now press on the Bluetooth notification and hit the accept button.)
7. Now go to the file manager and search the Bluetooth folder.
8. The APK is in that folder. It’s labelled Arrow2
#9 is for ANDROID users only and this is your new Arro-App for Android Smartphones. Please download from the following link.
9. Download this on your Android phone http://arrowsmartphone.ml/
Transfer files from watch to phone:
1- Find and select on Arrow app on your watch. This will create a hotspot.
2- Turn on WIFI on your phone. This will show the arrow device on the network.
3- Select the arrow device in the network.
4- Select 'Synchronize files' on your watch.
5- Open the Arrow app on your phone and select 'Press to Start'
6- This will show Arrow device on the arrow phone app. Select this and all your files will be transferred.
Install "Watch Droid Phone" on your cell phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidphone
Install "Watch Droid Assistent" on the smartwatch:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidassistant
Apk 10.1.21.10 for smartwatch without Play Store:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IGNfscedUA_rZOHb2K7jbJjzkW97ChRx
Verify that both devices have bluetooth activated.
Enter "Watch Droid Phone" at phone and follow the steps of the assistant in configuration
Took some pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4sx0h941iu360rf/AADKsq3k16tDm_7kU6PlrMkQa?dl=0
The camera was the main reason to contribute. What should I say, the quality ist not really good...
... videos are only in portrait mode & the aspect ratio looks not o.k.
I hope we will get an update soon. They promise it. If I do a power off my battery is emty. Anyone the same problem?
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If I do a power off my battery is emty. Anyone the same problem?
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I switched off mine, charged it up to 100%, put it away from the charger untouched for 1 day, restart the watch and had 100% battery.
b3b0 said:
I switched off mine, charged it up to 100%, put it away from the charger untouched for 1 day, restart the watch and had 100% battery.
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I don't have any charge issues. Just limited functionality. And I haven't had any luck transferring files via Bluetooth. I can link the watch to my Samsung S8 phone, share a file via Bluetooth from the phone, but the transfer always fails. I don't know if it's me, the phone or the watch.
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I can link the watch to my Samsung S8 phone, share a file via Bluetooth from the phone, but the transfer always fails. I don't know if it's me, the phone or the watch.
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Did you accept the file transfer at the watch? You have to pull down the notification area and have to accept the file transfer.
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Did you accept the file transfer at the watch? You have to pull down the notification area and have to accept the file transfer.
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That was the problem. I'm OK now with the apps mentioned above and installed. I appreciate your help!
what may be causing this to not run with the error "Arrow 360 has stopped."
I'm on a samsung galaxy s8+
hw rev 1.0
android 8.0.0 kernel 4.4.78
jeffp67 said:
what may be causing this to not run with the error "Arrow 360 has stopped."
I'm on a samsung galaxy s8+
hw rev 1.0
android 8.0.0 kernel 4.4.78
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It won't run on my Samsung Galaxy S8 either.
I hope someone figures out how to install the Google Play Store app on the watch. Aptoide is difficult to use for me.
Also, I noticed that when installing an app, the Install and Cancel buttons are almost not visible at the bottom of the screen. Is there a way to scroll/drag the screen?
Many of the icons are too small for my fingers. Is there a small stylus available anywhere that works with the watch? I installed Chrome so a stylus would help with using that as well.
mldenison said:
It won't run on my Samsung Galaxy S8 either.
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There are new Versions of the Apps, for watch and Phone. Take a look at
my Postst #2, give them a try. For me it's working now.
Hello Backers,
The first software update is now available and it focuses on the data transfer between the watch and your smartphone app. For those that were having issues with the app and data transfer we’ve updated the software to allow for a better experience for transferring photos from the watch to your phone.
Cloud update services are not available at this time but please follow these simple instructions to update your watch:
1. Enable Bluetooth on smartwatch & phone.
2. Connect them with eachother.
3. Enable the installation from unknown source on your watch. (settings > security > unknown source)
4. Download http://arrowsmartwatch.ml/ on your computer.
5. Once the APK is on your computer, share it via Bluetooth to your Arrow Smartwatch. (if you don’t know, just google how to share files with Bluetooth, it’s very easy)
6. Once you’ve pressed the sharing button, you’ll have to accept the file on your watch.
(Swipe down from the top of your Arrow screen, to open the notification bar. Now press on the Bluetooth notification and hit the accept button.)
7. Now go to the file manager and search the Bluetooth folder.
8. The APK is in that folder. It’s labelled Arrow2
#9 is for ANDROID users only and this is your new Arrow Smartphone App. Please download from the following link.
9. Download this on your Android phone http://arrowsmartphone.ml/
This watch update was tested by a few beta testers within the backer community with good results. It should allow many of you that were having trouble to start transferring photos and videos from the watch to your phone. The next planned update will focuses on connectivity, apps and notifications.
As for the remaining Arrow inventory we continue to wait for Chinese customs to give us an answer on the status of our units. They said Chinese New Year would create a delay of up to a month or two so we will post an additional update soon outlining the details of this extremely frustrating and prolonged ordeal. Our goal remains to ship all remaining units to backers as soon as this custom issue is cleared.
Inquiries about the above can be sent to [email protected] as this is our primary contact method.
ArrowSmartwatch and phone do not connect with Bluetooth!!
I use IPHONE6S.
Arrowsmartwatch : Available devices iphone6s
Iphone6s bluetooth: ARROW_360BT disconnect>touch the screen ARROW_360>can not connect ”Make sure the Arrow 360 is powered on and within range.”
I donn'T know what to do.
help me!!!
This morning Smartdroid inform me that my Arrow smartwatch is in silent mode and so I will not be informed in case of notice. Does somebody know how to disable silent mode?
TIA
Any solution for custom rom?
or can give me a mirror for the apk I lost my.
Sorry for the necro, found these and thought they may still be useful.
Android version for phone, and the Arrow2-watch needs to be sent to the watch over bluetooth.
Silver_Saberius said:
Sorry for the necro, found these and thought they may still be useful.
Android version for phone, and the Arrow2-watch needs to be sent to the watch over bluetooth.
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Thanks! Is this a new version of the OS? Or a customized version?
Hii! Not sure if people are still using the watch.. I took it out last week and again remembered why I packed it back. The battery drain is just insane!
Was anyone able to get a different OS version installed on the watch,,? Is it even possible? What are this risks?
What are my options to experiment?
Hi
I have a FitCloudPro App based Chinese smart watch probably called LA23 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004403438987.html) . Here I'm not getting an option to Transfer calls from Watch to phone, once picked up on the watch.
Scenario:
I use BT earphones and smartwatch all the time, but whenever a call comes and I receive on my smartwatch it never transfer to my earbuds until I switch it manually. (Ps. there is no setting on watch to transfer a call to watch.)
Current Settings:
Watch connected to smartwatch and Earbuds are connected to same phone.
Watch Media audio and mode is on.
Condition:
On a bike/at gym it is problematic when a call comes to phone, I want to transfer this call to phone from smartwatch so that I can use my earbuds to talk.
Is there any way to do it?
when a call comes I can receive on watch but when I press the button of my watch it can transfer to my phone?
It will be a great help if you can solve.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Mayank
it's not a watch issue. application is an arbitrator. watch only sends info to app about your action. while app are route the streams.
it's possible if you'll write your own app or you'll find compatible app with disired functional. and seem a first more feasible.
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it's not a watch issue. application is an arbitrator. watch only sends info to app about your action. while app are route the streams.
it's possible if you'll write your own app or you'll find compatible app with disired functional. and seem a first more feasible.
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Hi, thanks for you reply!
I'm not much technical to code my own app.
Although I have read your another thread about the LA21, and this is the same brand watch called LA23.
If you have some suggestions about to code an App as you understand this watch mode deeply or can you suggest me an App that have this call functionality?
it would be much helpful!
thanks
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Although I have read your another thread about the LA21, and this is the same brand watch called LA23.
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perhaps it was a la10. I had this model and had make few tools for it, but it's a complettely different. la10 is a very easy in program part. la23 looks like my new watch - dm50. at least it have an identical chip (RealtekRTL8763EW), similar functions and fitcloud pro as a companion app.
it's a way harder. as in app part, as in watch face format. I try to learn it, but on watch face format investigation yet.
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If you have some suggestions about to code an App as you understand this watch mode deeply or can you suggest me an App that have this call functionality?
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I'm not a programmer (even didn't know about kotlin a half year ago), so it's a bit hard for me too.
so if a la23 similar as a dm50, I think I can't reassure you. it's not treat as usual "medical device". it have a dual connection mode. and audio part defines as a wireless headset. you can see it in bt devices in phone settings. so as I understood it's not so often feature for smartwatches and in this case, I don't think what you can find any compatible app.
"ble-starter" is a very good point for beginning, but evet this need much reworking.
vxsw said:
perhaps it was a la10. I had this model and had make few tools for it, but it's a complettely different. la10 is a very easy in program part. la23 looks like my new watch - dm50. at least it have an identical chip (RealtekRTL8763EW), similar functions and fitcloud pro as a companion app.
it's a way harder. as in app part, as in watch face format. I try to learn it, but on watch face format investigation yet.
I'm not a programmer (even didn't know about kotlin a half year ago), so it's a bit hard for me too.
so if a la23 similar as a dm50, I think I can't reassure you. it's not treat as usual "medical device". it have a dual connection mode. and audio part defines as a wireless headset. you can see it in bt devices in phone settings. so as I understood it's not so often feature for smartwatches and in this case, I don't think what you can find any compatible app.
"ble-starter" is a very good point for beginning, but evet this need much reworking.
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Thanks for your response!
Yes, you are right it has 2 bluetooth connection for call BT3.0 and notification BT5.2.
I'm trying to install Ble_starter apk as you attached in your LA10 thread. But its not installing on my phone.
I'm using RogPhone2.
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I'm trying to install Ble_starter apk
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may be must have an another target platform on compilation. but anyway, it would not work with this device. it have an another type of authorization (with confirmation). la10 allow to connect automatically without confirm. it required much reworking.
btw, may be more than enough to find app what would just force select device to talk? seems it's more easy way to solve your problem.
vxsw said:
may be must have an another target platform on compilation. but anyway, it would not work with this device. it have an another type of authorization (with confirmation). la10 allow to connect automatically without confirm. it required much reworking.
btw, may be more than enough to find app what would just force select device to talk? seems it's more easy way to solve your problem.
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Okay, thanks
I'll try this to find first.