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Google Pixel XL German discussion thread

Dear Android devotees,
The nexus model range ended. All those, who are familiar with Android longly, know it is somehow sad to hear such kind of news. It is an end of a chapter - indeed- and this means also the inception of a new one , now called as PIXEL.
I created this thread for the German community part of this forum who want to speak about rumors, news and opinions in general in regard to Google's next flagships ( in English of course).
Let's do it again & happy flashing!

I know it's the xl forum but if the 5" starts at 649 then the xl will be 699 or 750. They are pulling the same crap like last year. The 5x was way too expensive at launch. Fr 200/ 250 it's a good phone, but the price wasn't justified by only it getting fast updates. The xl has to outclass the 6p. And that will be difficult simply because the 6p is an excellent phone still and it's a lot cheaper and development is going strong. Not to mention the 2k oled display stereo speakers and good camera. If it's not better then people are better off buying the 6p. (If we're kepping it within the nexus line) I will wait for development to get rolling before deciding if I buy another nexus. Currently okaywith the 5x (bought it for 200) and the op3. The op3 is excellent for tinkerers on a budget. The axon 7 is also an option but development for europe is non existent because of the locked bootloader.

Doc Moody said:
I know it's the xl forum but if the 5" starts at 649 then the xl will be 699 or 750. They are pulling the same crap like last year. The 5x was way too expensive at launch. Fr 200/ 250 it's a good phone, but the price wasn't justified by only it getting fast updates. The xl has to outclass the 6p. And that will be difficult simply because the 6p is an excellent phone still and it's a lot cheaper and development is going strong. Not to mention the 2k oled display stereo speakers and good camera. If it's not better then people are better off buying the 6p. (If we're kepping it within the nexus line) I will wait for development to get rolling before deciding if I buy another nexus. Currently okaywith the 5x (bought it for 200) and the op3. The op3 is excellent for tinkerers on a budget. The axon 7 is also an option but development for europe is non existent because of the locked bootloader.
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Fully agreed. I'll stay with the 6p until I see it rooted and having a decent community.
But I'll switch away from the 6p as soon as I see the community of the Pixel growing. My 6p gets way too hot with normal usage and I'm pissed off about that.

I am still hoping that they offer something that could justify the price. e.g. top tier display and sensors to make it Daydream compatible (which should be the case), unlimited online storage and so on.
But the design and specs from the leaks seem pretty lackluster :/

Doc Moody said:
I know it's the xl forum but if the 5" starts at 649 then the xl will be 699 or 750. They are pulling the same crap like last year. The 5x was way too expensive at launch. Fr 200/ 250 it's a good phone, but the price wasn't justified by only it getting fast updates. The xl has to outclass the 6p. And that will be difficult simply because the 6p is an excellent phone still and it's a lot cheaper and development is going strong. Not to mention the 2k oled display stereo speakers and good camera. If it's not better then people are better off buying the 6p. (If we're kepping it within the nexus line) I will wait for development to get rolling before deciding if I buy another nexus. Currently okaywith the 5x (bought it for 200) and the op3. The op3 is excellent for tinkerers on a budget. The axon 7 is also an option but development for europe is non existent because of the locked bootloader.
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Yes, I totally agree. I am remembering to the good old "pay-less-for-much" concept, but I would classify this as dead since the nexus 5 actually. We might get something unbelievable, who knows? Yet we don't have many 105% authentic information.
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Fully agreed. I'll stay with the 6p until I see it rooted and having a decent community.
But I'll switch away from the 6p as soon as I see the community of the Pixel growing. My 6p gets way too hot with normal usage and I'm pissed off about that.
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Yup, also I do agree here. I just checked the sectiona and it was around 11 active roms and 6 active kernel threads.
ts-apps said:
I am still hoping that they offer something that could justify the price. e.g. top tier display and sensors to make it Daydream compatible (which should be the case), unlimited online storage and so on.
But the design and specs from the leaks seem pretty lackluster :/
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I am really really hoping for a good camera and battery, having a decent microphone would be also nice.

I think daydream puts sensors on the hardware, the same as gearvr.

I guess that has to be on board as minimum.

I hope that all sensors are located in the phone. Just take a look at Project Tango to to see the possibilities.
It would also be very beneficial to things like Argumented reality (e.g. Pokemon Go), GEO Location or activity recognition which are far from being perfect on our current devices.

Well, 5 days left. Really lookig forward for anything suprising.

Is it worth buying Nexus 6p?

Hello everyone
I've been waiting for Google since 4 months to announce something that suits my taste but they fail so bad.
i was leaning toward Note7 but even if they said that they fix battery issues this device already banned from all Airlines, at least they let you go in with it but you can't use.
Im using S6 im not satisfied with.
So it's worth buying it now?

btouareg said:
Hello everyone
I've been waiting for Google since 4 months to announce something that suits my taste but they fail so bad.
i was leaning toward Note7 but even if they said that they fix battery issues this device already banned from all Airlines, at least they let you go in with it but you can't use.
Im using S6 im not satisfied with.
So it's worth buying it now?
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If you were going for note 7,why not go for pixel. It would be same on price. 6P will be a lot cheaper than both. If you care about latest config, oneplus 3 is better deal in reasonable price.

saurabh40629 said:
If you were going for note 7,why not go for pixel. It would be same on price. 6P will be a lot cheaper than both. If you care about latest config, oneplus 3 is better deal in reasonable price.
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The answer i so easy The pixel XL Not worth 1000usd and note 7 worth the 850usd(i could tell you why if u want ) but in the other hand note7 explode even if say they fix it.

btouareg said:
The answer i so easy The pixel XL Not worth 1000usd and note 7 worth the 850usd(i could tell you why if u want ) but in the other hand note7 explode even if say they fix it.
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Then why not op3? development is huge which is almost non existent for note 7. I would have said 6p but op3 offers 820 chip with 6gb of ram.

saurabh40629 said:
Then why not op3? development is huge which is almost non existent for note 7. I would have said 6p but op3 offers 820 chip with 6gb of ram.
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i already have OP2 (work) smartphone, it's good smartphone, dual sim not bad screen (for sure i prefer the Samsung amoled screens, it seems i need to read more about OP3
Thanks dude

Any rumours of the axon 8?

It's only a month from when last year the axon 7 was announced. Doing some Internet searching doesn't bring up anything as yet.
Does anyone know if we are to get an Axon 8 shorty?

@front firing speakers
Probably because it isn't gonna be called axon 8, but axon gigabit

front firing speakers said:
It's only a month from when last year the axon 7 was announced. Doing some Internet searching doesn't bring up anything as yet.
Does anyone know if we are to get an Axon 8 shorty?
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There was a prototype exhibition of a gigabit phone, but I'm not sure if this is really a flagship for this year. Most articles acknowledge that this is more of just a concept showing ZTE has the tech in development rather than a concrete flagship for this year. Currently it seems like ZTE has not announced anything new for the Axon line this year. Maybe it will be announced later? Or they're just going to focus on refining the Axon 7 for some time?

Nik2424 said:
@front firing speakers
Probably because it isn't gonna be called axon 8, but axon gigabit
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tupurl said:
There was a prototype exhibition of a gigabit phone, but I'm not sure if this is really a flagship for this year. Most articles acknowledge that this is more of just a concept showing ZTE has the tech in development rather than a concrete flagship for this year. Currently it seems like ZTE has not announced anything new for the Axon line this year. Maybe it will be announced later? Or they're just going to focus on refining the Axon 7 for some time?
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Besides they were clear that it was only a prototype and a specific model using this technology would be available until next year.

I think eventually will see successor guess within next 1-3 months it's reasonable time being.
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I'm sure we'll be hearing something very soon.
I won't be upgrading from my Axon 7 for at least another year, but when I do upgrade, I hope that ZTE puts up a fight for my money.

paatha13 said:
I think eventually will see successor guess within next 1-3 months it's reasonable time being.
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Valentyn_L said:
I'm sure we'll be hearing something very soon.
I won't be upgrading from my Axon 7 for at least another year, but when I do upgrade, I hope that ZTE puts up a fight for my money.
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I think that ZTE is not releasing anything this year, or at least not until the end of year. By now all the specs were leaked last year and May was the date to release the Axon 7, so I highly doubt they are working on something else, or they have it really hidden.
Another thing is that they are still putting all the effort into the Axon 7, which is a good sign that they plan to continue to have this device as the company's flagship for the moment.

That's what I thought and basis for my question. Do rumours yet looks like no phone

front firing speakers said:
That's what I thought and basis for my question. Do rumours yet looks like no phone
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Actually I just read somewhere, maybe on xda that when someone asked why the axon max(6gb ram 128gb storage version of axon 7) was no longer being sold and apparently the rep told them that they were working on a new phone that would be ready by the summer so they had stopped production of the axon max. I don't know how much weight that statement holds but definitely something to keep an eye out for.

Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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paatha13 said:
Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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* Especially since the OnePlus 3 hardware specs this last year were not even comparable to the ZTE Axon 7 -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p. OnePlus 3T (end of year update) was better, but still no 1440p AMOLED.
Yes, I can see a difference. If you want 1080p, there's a 100 companies selling 5.5" 1080p generic slabs. Go get one -- just don't tell me there's no difference. All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say.
This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED with their OnePlus 5, so we'll see.
* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway. Put glass or ceramic back on the phone so we can have Qi wireless.
As for "improvements"? Besides Qi wireless, ZTE Axon 8 needs a BIGGER battery. 3250 mAh is not enough. I have a 3900 mAh battery on my 5.2" 1440p AMOLED Moto XT1225. This phone needs AT LEAST 4,000 mAh. Nobody is begging for credit card thin phones. Everybody wants a BIGGER battery.
Also, add backlighting to the capacitive buttons -- and space them wider apart.
* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.
ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950

I'm planning on buying a new smartphone Q4 2017.
I'm hoping there will be a ZTE Axon 8, so I can then weigh up against OnePlus 4/5 and Huawei Honor 9.
My understanding is that the ZTE Axon 7 is an excellent phone, so things are looking good.
For those of you not looking to upgrade from your Axon 7s, let hope the Axon 9 will be a beast (if you plan to upgrade after 24 month period).

ChazzMatt said:
* Especially since the OnePlus hardware specs this last year were not even comparable -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p.
All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say.
This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED, so we'll see.
* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway.
* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.
ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950
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Me too have top priority Axon 8 but meanwhile I will try Galaxy S8 while keeping current Axon 7.
As for what I want is AOD feature,improved camera performance(low light and video recording witch struggling right now) and if ZTE keep current form factor I would prefer bottom navigation button to be backlight
Also LED notification support more color than just red or green as today.
Of course keeping all the positive deliver today.
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Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always

musicman5844 said:
Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always
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That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.
Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.

Galaxo60 said:
That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.
Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.
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Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp

musicman5844 said:
Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp
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Actually, read again:
"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"
As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.

paatha13 said:
Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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ZTE Axon 9. Likely to be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..
All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.
See this page (page 13):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
Specifically this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121

Galaxo60 said:
Actually, read again:
"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"
As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.
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They've omitted stereo speakers on Axon7s.?

ChazzMatt said:
ZTE Axon 9. To be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..
All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.
See this page (page 13):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
Specifically this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121
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Yes I’ve read this at V30 thread.
Well we shall see next month.
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is it worth buying in 2017?

I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?

Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists

Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.

negusp said:
imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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thanks for your valuable remarks

electronode said:
Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
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thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.

Plabon7 said:
thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
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Well, don't forget that the Nexus 5X also has the bootloop issue.
If you want to root and ROM, I heartily recommend the 2015 X/X Pure if you can afford it. Or the OnePlus 2.
But, if you're going to stay on stock, get a Nokia 6 (or whatever other phones they have). Stock Android with super fast updates.

My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.

Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.

drmuruga said:
Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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but as far as i know note 4x does not have a good camera.

MisterSteve said:
My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
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heating issue?

I have had no issues with excessive heating or screen burn in personally.

Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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I bought a second hand one for gps use last month and ended up using it as my primary device. I also have a Moto x play and kumia (pointless). I bought it for 140usd - 9000inr. The back camera lens is scratched a bit but there is no other issue. Photos are clear though. The phone is very nice and it doesn't heat up for me as many people say. Gets fully charged in 1.25 hours. I don't play games so for other use it works awesome.
It is way better than Moto x play which I bought when it released. The camera is good. That can be also an option for you . Or, you can go for Nexus 5x. Price dropped and you can also find a second sale phone for less than 150. If you are so Keen about the quality buy a scratched phone for low price, replace the case housing. It's new.
I have a lumia 640xl which I refurbished under 100usd. It still works charm..
Go for it mate...

I know it's been several months since someone posted something here, but I'm curious to know your opinion on this...
I have just purchased an used Moto G4 Plus XT1644 4GB + 64GB yesterday at B&H Photo in excellent condition (10 out of 10), at least that's how they described it, for $138.50 shipped. It's arriving on Thursday.
I was not aware of its many issues like, heating issues, screen burn in / ghost touches and so on... So now I'm kinda worried about my decision...
My wife had an iPhone 6 and I converted her to a Moto G5 Plus about 3 to 4 months ago. She's very happy with the phone.
I only went with the G4 Plus because of the extra RAM, plenty storage space, external SD card reader and larger screen compared to the G5 Plus (*for the price I paid*). Most importantly, I bought the G4 Plus because it has ElementalX kernel, official Lineage OS support and TWRP as well. The combination of these three kept my Nexus 5 going for 3+ years before it gave up on me a few months ago.
My N5 still works but it randomly shuts down and reboots when using demanding tasks like taking photos or when it heats up. As long as I can keep it frozen (out of the freezer - literally) it works just fine though.
I've been using a crappy $60 Amazon Prime Exclusive phone, the Blu R1 HD on stock Marshmallow + Magisk / Xposed / Gravity Box / N-ify. Performance is fine considering what I paid for it. Thanks to the infamous fire.apk that plagued the R1 HD for months, I managed to get a full refund for that phone today. So I've got a free phone with malware basically.
I really wanted a 5.5" to 6" phone with good dev support on the cheap but as you know, both the G5 Plus / G5S Plus have a smaller 5.2" and very little dev support (compared to the G4 Plus) and they cost quite a bit more.
So I went with lower price, better dev support and slightly bigger screen on the G4 Plus.
What do you guys think?

Just became eligible for device upgrade.. Love my A7, but the S8 is so tempting!

Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?

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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.

TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.

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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.

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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money

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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee

TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?

TPMJB said:
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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awsomjgp said:
Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!

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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything

LeKeiser said:
but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.

tele_jas said:
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...

What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.

freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...

freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.

LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.

ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s

TPMJB said:
Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.

TPMJB said:
Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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ChazzMatt said:
There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.