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Cheapest DECENT Android smartphone in 2015

I've seen the specs and I believe this is going to be the cheapest usable Android smartphone in 2015.
What do you guys think?

Sd410 is ****

I've bought one today for my dad. However I read someone mention on gsm arena that this Moto G is going to be rubbish compared to previous versions, because its made by Lenovo and not Google. Is this something to be concerned about or just a random opinion from a Google fan?

That makes no sense.
As far as I understand, Lenovo just bought Motorola to get access to the NA/EU phone market.
Why would it mess with the internal workings of a company that's been around longer than Lenovo's parent company???
Manufacturing shouldn't change from when it was owned by Google, who bought it for patent and manufacturing reasons.

I'm a little surprised there isn't more talk about the device on here. I'm currently on the iPhone 6 Plus but want to get myself the Moto G to play with and use as a back up.
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Why would it mess with the internal workings of a company that's been around longer than Lenovo's parent company???
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If you are talking about IBM, IBM doesn't own Lenovo. Also, IBM has been around (not called IBM back then) since the 1890's, where Motorola has only been around since the 1920's.
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This is far away from the cheapest decent android phone in my city(Hong Kong)
There are Xiaomi,Mizhu(?),Huawei,ASUS(for the zenphone 2 with 4gb ram,13mp camera, full hd display,5.x display and sell with about the same price as moto g did off -contract)
And you can buy even OnePlus One in any retail smartphone shop
This moto G is not the best cheapest phone anymore
Sent from my Moto G 1st gen

I'm an iPhone user, but I'm using the Moto G as a backup Android device. I like it. It's not a world-beater, but no one expected it to be. Solid device.
Here's my review:

Good overview of all the features you are getting for your money.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/07/29/moto-g-2015-hands-on-video​

Nice.. hopefully no lags here.. hhhm

JeffBenjamin said:
I'm an iPhone user, but I'm using the Moto G as a backup Android device. I like it. It's not a world-beater, but no one expected it to be. Solid device.
Here's my review:
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Jeff, which version did you review; was it the unlocked US XT1540? I was hoping the charging cable was a two piece set; micro USB and walk plug.
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alfick3 said:
Jeff, which version did you review; was it the unlocked US XT1540? I was hoping the charging cable was a two piece set; micro USB and walk plug.
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Yep, the unlocked US XT1540. And nope, it's a combine cable/plug. Kind of weird.

Thank you sir. Oh well, not a show stopper, just a small bump in the road.
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Firstly I wasn't talking about IBM. IBM sold Lenovo it's PC unit and IBM now focuses on services for the backbone/back office of the internet and intranets.
Back on topic -
Motorola for the second time has released a new phone that was GSM only first and then re-release with a few updated and adds an LTE radio.
The 2nd gen LTE Moto G was too expensive for a terrible camera. My Radiant has a bad enough camera but I used it for work anyway and still got decent pictures.
I opted to fix my Optimus G which I dropped on the screen side and it shattered = $155; as I was having space issues despite installing Link2SD on my Radiant.
This was back in May, I couldn't afford to wait for Motorola to announce an updated 3rd gen Moto G with the LTE radio.
Now I am dealing with a screen that has a mind of it's own. I can no longer make or take calls as the screen goes dark completely and I have no access to the dial or other phone controls. I used to get around this by connecting it to my BT headphones but that stopped working. The only way it works with the screen on now is -
1) Connected to the BT in my Panasonic Link2Cell cordless
2) My Car's BT (factory)
That's just the tip of the problems I have now. Otherwise the phone works fine.
I will keep it around for it's camera and video capabilities.
Now the decision is -
1) Moto G for $180 but it's skimpy on RAM and internal memory
2) Moto G for $219 but it's hardly better than the Asus Zenphone 2
I am leaning towards the Zenphone 2 actually because it seems to work well in low light. As I said I use my phone for work and while store lights are overall fine, the light isn't bright like a sunshine or controlled lighting under more ideal conditions.
Actually I should get a phone with optical stabilization since I don't have the calmest hands in the world and it sometimes takes two or three shots for get a sharp picture.
The One Plus Two has that, but not the Moto X? Hmmm... Not sure I want to shell out $400 for a phone though, I have other pressing priorities.

the MOTO is one thing I'd like to try.. Never own one and based on several reviews, they're looking good. I'm leaning for the cheaper one. I think it's aint a bad idea after all

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Nina.s said:
I've bought one today for my dad. However I read someone mention on gsm arena that this Moto G is going to be rubbish compared to previous versions, because its made by Lenovo and not Google. Is this something to be concerned about or just a random opinion from a Google fan?
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amarentine said:
Nice.. hopefully no lags here.. hhhm
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I just came from Moto G 2014. Was using Titan Prime Rom + Greenify donation + Custom kernel + Xposed + Amplify + Tasker. The phone sucked on stock but I made it a beast for the last few months. However, I couldn't resist the camera, battery and ram upgrade and traded in my 2014 and got the G 2015 and I have used it only for a day but I can tell without a doubt, I find it smoother than my G 2014 (the tweaked one). Everything runs the way it is supposed to and I've about 40 odd apps installed and it still runs without any lag or jitters and the battery life is good. Been using it from noon today (it is 10.45p.m. here), battery is down to 56% and 3 hours 10 mins of SOT and out of this 1.5hrs I downloaded 40 apps on a very slow WiFi. So yeah, very happy with the phone as of now.

No NFC in 2015...

djfourmoney said:
Not sure I want to shell out $400 for a phone though, I have other pressing priorities.
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If you are not willing to shell out $500 (or more) for a phone, then you shouldn't expect to get a great camera with OIS. At least not now. In a few months the S6 will come down in price.

JulesJam said:
If you are not willing to shell out $500 (or more) for a phone, then you shouldn't expect to get a great camera with OIS. At least not now. In a few months the S6 will come down in price.
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Not denying that, I just didn't want a worse camera than my current phone.
It won't come down that much, an LG G3 is now $399 unlocked (AT&T) and the G2 is about $280.

Would you buy a new Moto X now?

Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael

engadini said:
Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael
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my opinion is $200 is a little high, you did not mention what model, i bought a new xt1053 developers edition 32gb on ebay about 6 or 8 months ago for $199 ant its retail gsm unlocked with the ability to unlock the bootloader, we have 4 xt1058 att's here and all updated to lollipop and so far the only issues with one device is some lost contacts after the ota, not to much of a deference in battery life, there is a noticeable difference in performance due to running on art (i would say), amazon has the gsm unlocked which im sure is the xt1058 black for $115 and white for $118, just put this (Motorola Moto X - 16GB, Unlocked Phone) in amazon search bar

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.

engadini said:
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.
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sounds like you know what your doing

hugh a said:
sounds like you know what your doing
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I just think that the price might be okay Would you buy the device one again for this price? Or would you prefer another one?! Maybe the Moto G 3rd Gen. The price for this one is about 230€*for the 16GB model with 2 GB RAM (without MotoMaker).

Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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I would buy it, its the most powerfull and feature packed phone in this price and screen size range.
For me, the only alternative is the Samsung Galaxy Alpha.
The only thing you have to make shure is, if 16 GB storage is enough for your needs.
greetings

Let me tell you the story of Moto X 2nd Gen here in India. It's available for INR 30000 which is about 460 USD. And if you get your screen broken (which magically is turning into a very frequent phenomenon) your costs from the Moto Service Centre comes around INR 20000 which is 311 USD approx. So yeah , no one's gonna buy it in their right mind. Specs and improvements don't mean anything if the post sale services are that much of a pain.
Holding the whole Galaxy in my hand.

brother every phone has its merits and demerits, but what we want is important, like u i couldn't find a piece with this specs and the size like moto x, so think about it:good:

I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger

I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .

Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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i agree with you phones are just to big now, very cumbersome, the moto x 1st gen fits my hand perfect with a outterbox commuter series case, so far its my all time favorite

vonz33 said:
I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .
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I read bunch of articles stating that although Lenovo owns Motorola, it doesn't interfere with the design and engineering aspects of manufacturing the Moto devices. Theyre probably just concerned with their bottom line. I purchased my Moto X just a month ago for about 120$ new 16gigs, I was hesitant at first considering the old specs compared to what is out there but I couldn't resist the design, size and the 2years of developments to still make it run superbly.
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Amazing phone man and I have owned them all. So impressed by the speed and how fluent it is, but if I was buying one again, I would make sure it's on kit kat, so I could flash a lollipop version that didn't have the bootloader updated because lots of people with issues on lollipop.

I have no idea why you should pay twice more for Chinese quality). Buy US models, which working well in EU for $100 and be happy like me Nothing compares to the phone yet

vikramkhalsa said:
I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger
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You and I think alike.. Me too think only solid phone in this form factor is z3c.. But the camera review is not that great.. They just bumped the specs.. I'm having a hard time finding a great phone under 5inch size.. Any ideas? Really disappointed with OPO2! ARE THEY NOT THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL HANDS AND PREFER SMALLER DEVICES? Such a shame
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I'll be waiting for the new Moto X Pure Edition.
I have been told by Motorola support that it WILL be bootloader unlocked for Verizon.

Seems like there is no other good option Although I was playing with a samsung galaxy s6 the other day, both edge and regular.. they're actually not that bad! solid build quality and not thaat much bigger than our moto x. Just a little bigger but still not as wide as 2014 moto x or other phones. I might consider it but its soo expensive..

I have a Note 4 and would have got the Note 5 if had an sd slot, but it apparently does not. The front facing speakers, sd slot and 64GB internal storage for $500 to $550 for a Moto X Pure seems too good to pass up
The only concern but a biggy is battery life. I will buy from Best Buy and then return it if battery life is an issue. Heck, even if the Note 5 had an sd slot I would consider the Moto X Pure due to price and features

I'm getting the style also but with an SD slot, 16gb is all I need. I only use around 4gb for apps now. If battery is your thing, get the moto x with a 3600 mah battery, and 5.5 1080p. They should of made the 3600 mah standard for both.

Some questions before I order?

I am very excited to order a new Moto G4 Plus, it will be a replacement for my One Plus X which was stolen about 6 weeks ago.
Amazon UK have the following listing:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB Dual SIM-Free Smartphone - White - Exclusive to Amazon for £199 (€221/$248)
The Dual SIM would be useful for my work number, but not at the price of a white phone!
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
Otherwise I was thinking of ordering this model:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB SIM-Free Smartphone - Black (Single SIM) - (Exclusive to Amazon) for £199
Unless there are issues with heat or performance with that model and I should consider a 3GB RAM model instead? I have a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD card so I thought I could get by with 16GB of on board memory...

dusf said:
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
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That's correct.
dusf said:
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black

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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?

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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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I just read on another page:
Dual SIM standard on all Moto Maker Moto G4 Plus handsets.
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This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Frances91 said:
This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Oh, I had thought the heat issues were resolved!
I actually ordered a few days go, Motorola's website told me so, but then sent me an email saying it was cancelled. I queried this with support and they told me it was because my bank declined the transfer, but I spoke with my bank and they said Motorola never tried to take the money!
I just ordered again about an hour ago...
What phone would you recommend instead? I was pretty set on the Moto G4 Plus

Why don't get a Note 7 instead.

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Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.

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And why not shoot yourself in the foot at the same time? Do you not read the news? The Note 7 has had more issues than any phone in the history of smartphones. Samsung has lost over $2 billion due to Note 7 issues and recalls. Even the replacements for the original recalls have been pulled off the market. Avoid the Note 7 like the plague.
I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?

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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.

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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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That was the laughing smiley for.

Okay, so it seems most would recommend their Moto G4 Plus.
Another 'Moto-maker' order cancelled by Motorola UK. After speaking with 3 technical support agents through their web based Live Chat, and being unable to get a clear answer from either one of them, I phoned and spoke with someone whose first language was actually English, and they explained the orders were cancelled because I was using a redirection service.
As I am in the Republic of Ireland I cannot order directly from Motorola UK, instead I tried using the same forwarder I always use for this kind of thing, but it is blacklsited by Motorola UK. Not sure what to do now, I really want a black dual SIM 32GB G4 Plus, but I do not want to pay Amazon an extra £39 for the privilege! It would be a real shame if I had to instead opt for the black single sim 16GB model from Amazon.
I am not sure what to do now, perhaps see if any family have friends in the UK that would manually forward it.

Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you'd already ordered for one, could have toned down the bad stuff I've had to say.
I guess, having shopped around a bit, doesn't look like there's much to choose from if I were to get a different phone, besides to be more honest my budget won't allow an upgrade just as yet. So guess I'll live with it for now and while my time away installing and uninstalling programs to squeeze out whatever good I can from my Moto G4 Plus.
And yes, majority moto g4 owners do seem to be swearing by their phones, that should ideally suffice to join their lot, besides making it worth buying considering there's going to be no dearth of dedicated forums and communities and such.
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FWIW, there are things I'd like to see like NFC, a magnetic compass and water repellent like the G3 but all in all it's a pretty solid phone for the price. Oh yea, it doesn't have the built-in heater like some Samsung phones but I can live without that.
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Best phone for +-300

My little cousin is looking for something in the range of 300, I'm pushing them toward swappa and telling him to research some things that he has enough money for but can you guys find something you would recommend for that price range? I'm leaning towards a Nexus 6 because I loved that phone. He brought up HTC m9

kickenwing13 said:
My little cousin is looking for something in the range of 300, I'm pushing them toward swappa and telling him to research some things that he has enough money for but can you guys find something you would recommend for that price range? I'm leaning towards a Nexus 6 because I loved that phone. He brought up HTC m9
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I would be really wary of buying a used Nexus 6P. There were obviously quality control issues with this phone. Too many people with boot loop and battery issues who need to RMA. Without a warranty you could end up with a paperweight.

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My little cousin is looking for something in the range of 300, I'm pushing them toward swappa and telling him to research some things that he has enough money for but can you guys find something you would recommend for that price range? I'm leaning towards a Nexus 6 because I loved that phone. He brought up HTC m9
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Moto G4 Plus looks really good for a $279 price tag. The one major drawback is no NFC. But he can get a brand new phone with decent specs and a warranty.

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Moto G4 Plus looks really good for a $279 price tag. The one major drawback is no NFC. But he can get a brand new phone with decent specs and a warranty.
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I had a g4 plus (moto) before i bought a nexus 6p. All i can say is it is one kf the best phones that i used.
No issues at all. Running great up to now.

go for moto x pure edition 64 gb with great dual speaker at $260 best buy on sale

Depends what carrier you're on.
The Google Phones get updates faster than the moto phones of course. I would recommend the Moto Phones if he either a) knows how to unlock bootloader and flash custom roms, or b) doesn't care about stock updates. Moto is generally notorious for lack of updates.
If you're on GSM, could always get a OnePlus device.

kickenwing13 said:
My little cousin is looking for something in the range of 300, I'm pushing them toward swappa and telling him to research some things that he has enough money for but can you guys find something you would recommend for that price range? I'm leaning towards a Nexus 6 because I loved that phone. He brought up HTC m9
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I have my nexus 6 64gb. Mint condition. Let me know.
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Nexus 6p is great and in many peoples opinions one of the best phones currently out. It is very customisable and easy to use with good battery. Also if your cousin is into nodding then this is one of the best phones for stuff like custom roms etc. I would highly recommend this phone because last I checked it was around 300. I bought mine from the google store almost a year ago for 300-320. Can't remember exactly. Good luck searching.

yes go for moto x pure edition with 64gb great camera and best dual fron speaker better than the nexus 6p.. saw iit a week ago at $260 at best buy.. thats a steal

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yes go for moto x pure edition with 64gb great camera and best dual fron speaker better than the nexus 6p.. saw iit a week ago at $260 at best buy.. thats a steal
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It has some features better than the 6p but overall it isn't better but it depends what you want from a phone

DEVILOPS 007 said:
It has some features better than the 6p but overall it isn't better but it depends what you want from a phone
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better than 6p.. i was referring to front speakers of moto x pure

what is the most comparable to the Moto X Pure

My uncle right now has the G5 and he says he hates it. he likes my phone alot but i said to him there are others that are newer and probably better (not to say i wouldnt tell him to buy the moto x pure, but that he has alot of options with gsm compared to sprint). He has Tmobile for now so i guess any GSM that is closest to the moto x and unlocked. what would you recommend and why?
he said specifically he likes my phone because of the feel of the phone, the lightness and the speedy os.
personally i dont like recommending him things like Huawei or ZTE because im suspicious of chinese made phones but i want to hear what you have to say

ZTE Axon 7 is a pretty solid device... I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one of those, or the Axon 7 Mini as a replacement for the Moto G series devices.
Another good choice would be the OnePlus 3T.
Most other devices by Samsung and LG are too bloated and skinned to heavily for my taste, I hesitate to recommend them.
I really like the HTC 10, goes back to my first real Android "love", but it's a bit pricey. The Google Pixel line is great, but again they are pricey and sometimes tough to find in stock.
Remember that retailers like Best Buy and B&H Photo still carry the Moto X Pure in stock for $299-$349.

Mobile world congress is literally in a few days (Feb 27). See what is available after that. Personally I'm looking forward to the Moto G5 (an upgrade to the Moto G4 which is also a great phone) which I will probably purchase for my wife. The Moto G5 plus is supposed to have a Sony IMX362 camera sensor which is really great, battery-sipping Snapdragon 625, and a 5.2" screen (my wife doesn't like big screens) so I think it'll be awesome. Plus it's Motorola so it'll have little to no bloat.
Honestly I'm surprised that your uncle hates the LG G5, it's a flagship after all with a snapdragon 820 and 4GB ram it should be pretty snappy. At least comparable to the Moto X Pure. He should just keep his phone, maybe wipe it and start fresh or try a new ROM if possible.
Also, hate to break it to you, Motorola is owned by Lenovo which is Chinese. I think Apple Samsung and LG are the only non-Chinese smartphones left.

I thought the latest rumors were the G5 would have the 5.2" screen and the G5 Plus is a 5.5".
Personally, after seeing how Lenovo treats updates/upgrades on my Moto G 2015 and X Pure over the last year, I will likely not buy another Moto device... Really it's a Lenovo device with the Moto name on it (Lenovo has confirmed ALL their smartphones will soon be carrying the Moto name). I am sure the G5 will be a decent device, but Lenovo has ruined it for me. Especially since I see my son's Axon 7 Mini gets regular security updates every single month only a week or two old.

@acejavelin Honestly the problem is Lenovo just doesn't care about the phones that were already in production before they purchased Motorola. Their newer phones that have launched since the merger ( Moto g4, Moto z) have had excellent support. Yes I'm a bit upset about the lack of support too but that's just how life goes sometimes. Have you tried lineageOS yet? I'm running the latest nightly and it's fantastic. Android 7.1.1, extremely fast, everything works well, 3+ hours SOT (up from 2.5 on stock marshmallow). lineageOS also comes unrooted so you can still use apps that don't like root (like pokemon Go).
As far as the G5 rumors, the latest rumors are 5.0" screen for the G5 and 5.2" screen for the G5 plus. Both full HD. Snapdragon 430 for the G5 and 625 for the G5 plus.

I actually went with the Axon 7. It's a really solid device. Runs really smooth good battery life. Very inexpensive compared to other flagship devices. The only thing I don't like about it, is that its not technically supported by Verizon. It's a nightmare to try to change anything with them.