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lenovo taking over motorola

hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks

So far so good, Moto G is among the very first devices to receive KK 4.4.3
Lenovo isn't stupid, they know that much of Moto's appeal is fast updates. Cheap alone doesn't cut, there are 100s of cheap Chinese devices - but most of them never see updates.
For me, call quality is OK.

renatohm said:
So far so good
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Lenovo hasn't bought Motorola yet.

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Lenovo hasn't bought Motorola yet.
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Technicalities. For all practical purposes, yes they have.
As you can see in new launches, Moto E, Moto G 4G and the rumoured Moto X+1, all have MicroSD slots. No Nexus phone/tablet and original Moto G/X, all under Google, have the slot. Simply put, they want you to spend on Google Drive, and a MicroSD spoofs that.
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hrashdan said:
hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
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Summing up, Moto G is amazing. I bought for myself and my wife, and we are both loving it. The only downside, in my humble opinion, is the lack of a MicroSD slot.
Just be sure to buy the 16GB version, especially if you are into games/recording videos, as these will eat up space in no time.

When you put it like that, Lenovo buying Motorola isn't such a bad thing. Lenovo laptops(especially the ThinkPad line) are very good too. I still remember how the CEO Yang Yuanqing took his annual bonus and gave it to his workers. I am sad by this shift in owners because I really was hoping for more phones to be made(assembled) in the US for the jobs. Having written that, the US market has spoken when it came to the Moto X so here I am with my Moto X, knowing this phone is probably the last of its kind because the US market values the price and specs more than the experience and where it came from.

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Technicalities. For all practical purposes, yes they have.
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That is strange as they are still being managed by Google. Lenovo has no control or influence over Motorola at this point.

alpha-niner64 said:
When you put it like that, Lenovo buying Motorola isn't such a bad thing. Lenovo laptops(especially the ThinkPad line) are very good too. I still remember how the CEO Yang Yuanqing took his annual bonus and gave it to his workers. I am sad by this shift in owners because I really was hoping for more phones to be made(assembled) in the US for the jobs. Having written that, the US market has spoken when it came to the Moto X so here I am with my Moto X, knowing this phone is probably the last of its kind because the US market values the price and specs more than the experience and where it came from.
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Consumers seem to value price, specs, and most importantly brand. The only reason people buy Samsung phones is because, oh, Samsung! It's a popular brand!
It kinda sucks.

Lyokacanthrope said:
Consumers seem to value price, specs, and most importantly brand. The only reason people buy Samsung phones is because, oh, Samsung! It's a popular brand!
It kinda sucks.
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I would qualify this as something more than just popular brand. I'd make your argument for Apple products though! With Samsung, I can list some qualitative features that distinguish Samsung from the rest: AMOLED, removable battery, microSD, no on-screen buttons, plastic build-quality?? I've read enough peoples' opinions to know that they want to move away from Samsung, but can't because no other brand offers what Samsung offers.
I hope that Motorola will move backward to the days of microSD and removable batteries(doubtful).

MicroSD is already back.
Brand is not exactly what most people want. They want bang per buck, usually. Sure, some people with cash to spare buy due to the brand.
As you mentioned, some Samssung features are hard to find in others. But most Android phones now have on screen buttons. So, how to be the best in class when most fellas are basically the same? Price.
Price alone won't cut in some cases - smartphones, for example. 1st time smartphone buyers may be seduced by dirt cheap, but after a while some other things become priorities. That's when you want the most bang per buck. And that's where the Moto G excels.
Great price for the specs, especially screen. Camera is not top of the line but will do for the majority of people, casual shooters. SoC not top of the line but very good for the average user. Battery is decent, telephony is OK. So, you have a very decent phone at a very good price. Add to that blazing fast updates, and you have a winner. For the majority of people, the phone is more than enough. Phones with simmilar SoC/RAM/internal storage are a lot costlier. Let alone the 720p screen, which even costlier rivals lack.
Sure, the removable battery is nice to have, as are wireless charging and NFC, but not mandatory. What really annoys me is the lack of MicroSD. You have to backup stuff often. Google will be happy if you use Drive for that, but in Brazil prices for mobile data are too high, and even landline internet is not that fast, so many people, including me, use the USB cable for that.

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hrashdan said:
hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
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I owned several thinkpads, both before and after Lenovo bought the brand from IBM. While I would say the quality and available technology had become more mainstream over the years, the high-quality service that was provided by IBM always remained. I had a motherboard replaced on my T400 when it was a month old. That was I believe the 3rd generation of Lenovo product.
I just replaced my old Motorola V60 phone on my voice-only line with a Moto G, partially because it will be one of the last pre-Lenovo phones and because my old phone was dying, but I have no worry that the phone will be supported at least as well as other brands mid-level phones and probably better than most.
Now, if Lenovo would just bring back quality slider phones under the Motorola name, I might be able to give up my blackberry as well.

thank you all , couldn't get better answers than these

Lenovo is a fairly new company compared to Moto But its already Number One in PCs and Number 3 in smart phones.... Lenovo is known for paying the highest salaries in the industry in China
Lenovo knows how to turn money bleeding companies into profit making ones in No time
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jaspreet997 said:
Lenovo is a fairly new company compared to Moto But its already Number One in PCs and Number 3 in smart phones.... Lenovo is known for paying the highest salaries in the industry in China
Lenovo knows how to turn money bleeding companies into profit making ones in No time
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Yep, I also have a Lenovo laptop, and I gotta say, the hardware build quality is incredible for the price (2 years later, battery still lasts 3 hours like when I first got it). The software made by Lenovo looks ancient, but works really efficient and has 0 impact on cpu and ram (by 0, I don't mean 0.01 or 0.1, I mean 0, ZERO)
I really hope to see the same quality on the mobile devices (well, this is exactly the description of the moto g stock rom)
Sorry for bumping the thread, just wanted to say this. [emoji85]
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Cheapest DECENT Android smartphone in 2015

I've seen the specs and I believe this is going to be the cheapest usable Android smartphone in 2015.
What do you guys think?

Sd410 is ****

I've bought one today for my dad. However I read someone mention on gsm arena that this Moto G is going to be rubbish compared to previous versions, because its made by Lenovo and not Google. Is this something to be concerned about or just a random opinion from a Google fan?

That makes no sense.
As far as I understand, Lenovo just bought Motorola to get access to the NA/EU phone market.
Why would it mess with the internal workings of a company that's been around longer than Lenovo's parent company???
Manufacturing shouldn't change from when it was owned by Google, who bought it for patent and manufacturing reasons.

I'm a little surprised there isn't more talk about the device on here. I'm currently on the iPhone 6 Plus but want to get myself the Moto G to play with and use as a back up.
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Why would it mess with the internal workings of a company that's been around longer than Lenovo's parent company???
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If you are talking about IBM, IBM doesn't own Lenovo. Also, IBM has been around (not called IBM back then) since the 1890's, where Motorola has only been around since the 1920's.
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This is far away from the cheapest decent android phone in my city(Hong Kong)
There are Xiaomi,Mizhu(?),Huawei,ASUS(for the zenphone 2 with 4gb ram,13mp camera, full hd display,5.x display and sell with about the same price as moto g did off -contract)
And you can buy even OnePlus One in any retail smartphone shop
This moto G is not the best cheapest phone anymore
Sent from my Moto G 1st gen

I'm an iPhone user, but I'm using the Moto G as a backup Android device. I like it. It's not a world-beater, but no one expected it to be. Solid device.
Here's my review:

Good overview of all the features you are getting for your money.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/07/29/moto-g-2015-hands-on-video​

Nice.. hopefully no lags here.. hhhm

JeffBenjamin said:
I'm an iPhone user, but I'm using the Moto G as a backup Android device. I like it. It's not a world-beater, but no one expected it to be. Solid device.
Here's my review:
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Jeff, which version did you review; was it the unlocked US XT1540? I was hoping the charging cable was a two piece set; micro USB and walk plug.
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alfick3 said:
Jeff, which version did you review; was it the unlocked US XT1540? I was hoping the charging cable was a two piece set; micro USB and walk plug.
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Yep, the unlocked US XT1540. And nope, it's a combine cable/plug. Kind of weird.

Thank you sir. Oh well, not a show stopper, just a small bump in the road.
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Firstly I wasn't talking about IBM. IBM sold Lenovo it's PC unit and IBM now focuses on services for the backbone/back office of the internet and intranets.
Back on topic -
Motorola for the second time has released a new phone that was GSM only first and then re-release with a few updated and adds an LTE radio.
The 2nd gen LTE Moto G was too expensive for a terrible camera. My Radiant has a bad enough camera but I used it for work anyway and still got decent pictures.
I opted to fix my Optimus G which I dropped on the screen side and it shattered = $155; as I was having space issues despite installing Link2SD on my Radiant.
This was back in May, I couldn't afford to wait for Motorola to announce an updated 3rd gen Moto G with the LTE radio.
Now I am dealing with a screen that has a mind of it's own. I can no longer make or take calls as the screen goes dark completely and I have no access to the dial or other phone controls. I used to get around this by connecting it to my BT headphones but that stopped working. The only way it works with the screen on now is -
1) Connected to the BT in my Panasonic Link2Cell cordless
2) My Car's BT (factory)
That's just the tip of the problems I have now. Otherwise the phone works fine.
I will keep it around for it's camera and video capabilities.
Now the decision is -
1) Moto G for $180 but it's skimpy on RAM and internal memory
2) Moto G for $219 but it's hardly better than the Asus Zenphone 2
I am leaning towards the Zenphone 2 actually because it seems to work well in low light. As I said I use my phone for work and while store lights are overall fine, the light isn't bright like a sunshine or controlled lighting under more ideal conditions.
Actually I should get a phone with optical stabilization since I don't have the calmest hands in the world and it sometimes takes two or three shots for get a sharp picture.
The One Plus Two has that, but not the Moto X? Hmmm... Not sure I want to shell out $400 for a phone though, I have other pressing priorities.

the MOTO is one thing I'd like to try.. Never own one and based on several reviews, they're looking good. I'm leaning for the cheaper one. I think it's aint a bad idea after all

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Nina.s said:
I've bought one today for my dad. However I read someone mention on gsm arena that this Moto G is going to be rubbish compared to previous versions, because its made by Lenovo and not Google. Is this something to be concerned about or just a random opinion from a Google fan?
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amarentine said:
Nice.. hopefully no lags here.. hhhm
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I just came from Moto G 2014. Was using Titan Prime Rom + Greenify donation + Custom kernel + Xposed + Amplify + Tasker. The phone sucked on stock but I made it a beast for the last few months. However, I couldn't resist the camera, battery and ram upgrade and traded in my 2014 and got the G 2015 and I have used it only for a day but I can tell without a doubt, I find it smoother than my G 2014 (the tweaked one). Everything runs the way it is supposed to and I've about 40 odd apps installed and it still runs without any lag or jitters and the battery life is good. Been using it from noon today (it is 10.45p.m. here), battery is down to 56% and 3 hours 10 mins of SOT and out of this 1.5hrs I downloaded 40 apps on a very slow WiFi. So yeah, very happy with the phone as of now.

No NFC in 2015...

djfourmoney said:
Not sure I want to shell out $400 for a phone though, I have other pressing priorities.
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If you are not willing to shell out $500 (or more) for a phone, then you shouldn't expect to get a great camera with OIS. At least not now. In a few months the S6 will come down in price.

JulesJam said:
If you are not willing to shell out $500 (or more) for a phone, then you shouldn't expect to get a great camera with OIS. At least not now. In a few months the S6 will come down in price.
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Not denying that, I just didn't want a worse camera than my current phone.
It won't come down that much, an LG G3 is now $399 unlocked (AT&T) and the G2 is about $280.

Would you buy a new Moto X now?

Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael

engadini said:
Hi,
I've an offer for a new Moto X (black, 16 GB memory) for a stipulated price about 180€ (200$). What do you think about the device today? Does it make sense to buy the Moto X for this price today? I like really the size of the phone and can't find another one with good hardware specifications on the market as the Moto X has. Can you told me something about the performance with Lollipop, the camera and the battery life? Will the Moto X get the new Android M, too?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
Cheers!
Michael
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my opinion is $200 is a little high, you did not mention what model, i bought a new xt1053 developers edition 32gb on ebay about 6 or 8 months ago for $199 ant its retail gsm unlocked with the ability to unlock the bootloader, we have 4 xt1058 att's here and all updated to lollipop and so far the only issues with one device is some lost contacts after the ota, not to much of a deference in battery life, there is a noticeable difference in performance due to running on art (i would say), amazon has the gsm unlocked which im sure is the xt1058 black for $115 and white for $118, just put this (Motorola Moto X - 16GB, Unlocked Phone) in amazon search bar

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.

engadini said:
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say that I'm from Germany and only the XT1052 is available here. Of course the device is unlocked. The actually price is about 240€ and more (amazon, ebay and so one) here in Germany. So I think that my 180€ offer should be a good deal.
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sounds like you know what your doing

hugh a said:
sounds like you know what your doing
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I just think that the price might be okay Would you buy the device one again for this price? Or would you prefer another one?! Maybe the Moto G 3rd Gen. The price for this one is about 230€*for the 16GB model with 2 GB RAM (without MotoMaker).

Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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I would buy it, its the most powerfull and feature packed phone in this price and screen size range.
For me, the only alternative is the Samsung Galaxy Alpha.
The only thing you have to make shure is, if 16 GB storage is enough for your needs.
greetings

Let me tell you the story of Moto X 2nd Gen here in India. It's available for INR 30000 which is about 460 USD. And if you get your screen broken (which magically is turning into a very frequent phenomenon) your costs from the Moto Service Centre comes around INR 20000 which is 311 USD approx. So yeah , no one's gonna buy it in their right mind. Specs and improvements don't mean anything if the post sale services are that much of a pain.
Holding the whole Galaxy in my hand.

brother every phone has its merits and demerits, but what we want is important, like u i couldn't find a piece with this specs and the size like moto x, so think about it:good:

I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger

I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .

Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
Well I've just bought one. I picked up a very good condition one off eBay this week for £87. I got it yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed with the build and form factor.
I was using a Nexus S for about 3 years and decided that it was time for an upgrade, event though I loved that phone to bits.
I wanted to spend max £100 and buy something I could flash a ROM on, so I went for a Samsung S3. It's a nice phone but just hate the home button with a vengeance and the capacitive buttons. They make the phone way too big. I guess I just hate big phone. They just don't do anything for me. It's also too slippy with its all plastic design.
So I decided I needed a smaller phone with no hardware buttons and the Moto X seemed like the perfect fit. After two days using it I have to say it's a lovely device. Build quality is top notch and the size is just perfect for one handed use. And because it's pretty much stock Android and not Touchwiz I'm not in the mood to flash a ROM at all. I'm more than happy with the software at the moment. I can always flash a ROM at a later date.
So yes go for it!
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i agree with you phones are just to big now, very cumbersome, the moto x 1st gen fits my hand perfect with a outterbox commuter series case, so far its my all time favorite

vonz33 said:
I got my xt1092 16gb for $480 australian from eBay. But a bit disappointed on design as not very flexible, eg: no SD card slot and too little memory not sure why its this way but anyhow Motorola phones are no longer developed by Motorola engineers but LeNovo engineers... So I don't know is that means as much to you as much as it means for me.
I had a lot of fun with my Razor previously but as it seems, there is no Cyanogen alternative for us on Moto X vitara...
I can sell you mine if you want its in perfect condition for 100€ .
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I read bunch of articles stating that although Lenovo owns Motorola, it doesn't interfere with the design and engineering aspects of manufacturing the Moto devices. Theyre probably just concerned with their bottom line. I purchased my Moto X just a month ago for about 120$ new 16gigs, I was hesitant at first considering the old specs compared to what is out there but I couldn't resist the design, size and the 2years of developments to still make it run superbly.
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Amazing phone man and I have owned them all. So impressed by the speed and how fluent it is, but if I was buying one again, I would make sure it's on kit kat, so I could flash a lollipop version that didn't have the bootloader updated because lots of people with issues on lollipop.

I have no idea why you should pay twice more for Chinese quality). Buy US models, which working well in EU for $100 and be happy like me Nothing compares to the phone yet

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I probably would. I got the moto x gen 1 when it came out an I'm still struggling to find any alternative. Everything else is too big. Also I don't really feel like I need an upgrade because I'm satisfied with everything. Performance isn't the fastest but its perfectly find and doesn't lag. The form factor is the best thing. The only alternative I have found is sony z3c but I will only get that if something happens to this. Since its more expensive and it has a glass back which could break. I was really hoping 2015 moto x would have a smaller option but sadly they just went bigger
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You and I think alike.. Me too think only solid phone in this form factor is z3c.. But the camera review is not that great.. They just bumped the specs.. I'm having a hard time finding a great phone under 5inch size.. Any ideas? Really disappointed with OPO2! ARE THEY NOT THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL HANDS AND PREFER SMALLER DEVICES? Such a shame
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I'll be waiting for the new Moto X Pure Edition.
I have been told by Motorola support that it WILL be bootloader unlocked for Verizon.

Seems like there is no other good option Although I was playing with a samsung galaxy s6 the other day, both edge and regular.. they're actually not that bad! solid build quality and not thaat much bigger than our moto x. Just a little bigger but still not as wide as 2014 moto x or other phones. I might consider it but its soo expensive..

I have a Note 4 and would have got the Note 5 if had an sd slot, but it apparently does not. The front facing speakers, sd slot and 64GB internal storage for $500 to $550 for a Moto X Pure seems too good to pass up
The only concern but a biggy is battery life. I will buy from Best Buy and then return it if battery life is an issue. Heck, even if the Note 5 had an sd slot I would consider the Moto X Pure due to price and features

I'm getting the style also but with an SD slot, 16gb is all I need. I only use around 4gb for apps now. If battery is your thing, get the moto x with a 3600 mah battery, and 5.5 1080p. They should of made the 3600 mah standard for both.

is it worth buying in 2017?

I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?

Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists

Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.

negusp said:
imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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thanks for your valuable remarks

electronode said:
Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
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thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.

Plabon7 said:
thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
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Well, don't forget that the Nexus 5X also has the bootloop issue.
If you want to root and ROM, I heartily recommend the 2015 X/X Pure if you can afford it. Or the OnePlus 2.
But, if you're going to stay on stock, get a Nokia 6 (or whatever other phones they have). Stock Android with super fast updates.

My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.

Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.

drmuruga said:
Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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but as far as i know note 4x does not have a good camera.

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My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
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heating issue?

I have had no issues with excessive heating or screen burn in personally.

Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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I bought a second hand one for gps use last month and ended up using it as my primary device. I also have a Moto x play and kumia (pointless). I bought it for 140usd - 9000inr. The back camera lens is scratched a bit but there is no other issue. Photos are clear though. The phone is very nice and it doesn't heat up for me as many people say. Gets fully charged in 1.25 hours. I don't play games so for other use it works awesome.
It is way better than Moto x play which I bought when it released. The camera is good. That can be also an option for you . Or, you can go for Nexus 5x. Price dropped and you can also find a second sale phone for less than 150. If you are so Keen about the quality buy a scratched phone for low price, replace the case housing. It's new.
I have a lumia 640xl which I refurbished under 100usd. It still works charm..
Go for it mate...

I know it's been several months since someone posted something here, but I'm curious to know your opinion on this...
I have just purchased an used Moto G4 Plus XT1644 4GB + 64GB yesterday at B&H Photo in excellent condition (10 out of 10), at least that's how they described it, for $138.50 shipped. It's arriving on Thursday.
I was not aware of its many issues like, heating issues, screen burn in / ghost touches and so on... So now I'm kinda worried about my decision...
My wife had an iPhone 6 and I converted her to a Moto G5 Plus about 3 to 4 months ago. She's very happy with the phone.
I only went with the G4 Plus because of the extra RAM, plenty storage space, external SD card reader and larger screen compared to the G5 Plus (*for the price I paid*). Most importantly, I bought the G4 Plus because it has ElementalX kernel, official Lineage OS support and TWRP as well. The combination of these three kept my Nexus 5 going for 3+ years before it gave up on me a few months ago.
My N5 still works but it randomly shuts down and reboots when using demanding tasks like taking photos or when it heats up. As long as I can keep it frozen (out of the freezer - literally) it works just fine though.
I've been using a crappy $60 Amazon Prime Exclusive phone, the Blu R1 HD on stock Marshmallow + Magisk / Xposed / Gravity Box / N-ify. Performance is fine considering what I paid for it. Thanks to the infamous fire.apk that plagued the R1 HD for months, I managed to get a full refund for that phone today. So I've got a free phone with malware basically.
I really wanted a 5.5" to 6" phone with good dev support on the cheap but as you know, both the G5 Plus / G5S Plus have a smaller 5.2" and very little dev support (compared to the G4 Plus) and they cost quite a bit more.
So I went with lower price, better dev support and slightly bigger screen on the G4 Plus.
What do you guys think?

x4 vs pure

so i have a question for everyone.
being that the delays are significant for updates and we havent seen an update since february, the delay on this is like a middle finger to us MXP users with just a 7.0 update. so i have a question.
would you sell the pure for the android one x4? and why or why not?

Android One edition? Yes. Google is handling the updates, so you shouldn't have to wait a year to get an out of date OS. But I am not in the market. My Pure still works. I would still be using my phone from 2014 if I didn't shatter the screen. Twice.
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Loaded question... would I sell my Pure to get a X4? Absolutely, if I could get the X4 for what I sold my Pure for...
Otherwise, I see the X4 as G5 Plus with a few golly gee whiz-bang add ons and that's it. All the Android reviewers keep ohhhing and ahhhing over it, but I just don't see the big deal at that price point... If it was $100 less, maybe.
Just an FYI... I sold my 32GB Pure in mint condition with 3 like new brand-name cases and a couple extra tempered glass screen protectors for $180 a month ago, and I was actually pretty surprised I got that much, would have taken $150 or $160 just to get rid of it, started asking $200 and it sat for a month with no interest.

acejavelin said:
Loaded question... would I sell my Pure to get a X4? Absolutely, if I could get the X4 for what I sold my Pure for...
Otherwise, I see the X4 as G5 Plus with a few golly gee whiz-bang add ons and that's it. All the Android reviewers keep ohhhing and ahhhing over it, but I just don't see the big deal at that price point... If it was $100 less, maybe.
Just an FYI... I sold my 32GB Pure in mint condition with 3 like new brand-name cases and a couple extra tempered glass screen protectors for $180 a month ago, and I was actually pretty surprised I got that much, would have taken $150 or $160 just to get rid of it, started asking $200 and it sat for a month with no interest.
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well i ask because i have the 64 gig with black leather and red accent. just had it replaced by moto care 1 month ago and im considering it but im not sure

Jonathanlc2005 said:
well i ask because i have the 64 gig with black leather and red accent. just had it replaced by moto care 1 month ago and im considering it but im not sure
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Unfortunately, once these phones hit 2 years from release, the price plummets... I usually use Swappa as a good reference for prices, the 64GB version is averaging about $217 as of August, and I expect the September price to be closer to $210. (Ignore the $240 recent price average for the 16GB model, it's obviously a glitch).
Good luck though, depending on your local area that price could vary quite a bit. Around here cell phones usually go a tad on the high side, so take it for what it's worth.

I would not go for any moto again after x style, simple answer.

iks8 said:
I would not go for any moto again after x style, simple answer.
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Eh... Still tough to ignore the value in a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, (mostly) pure Android, quality build and specs. And for US users, the Verizon and Sprint CDMA network compatibility.

acejavelin said:
Eh... Still tough to ignore the value in a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, (mostly) pure Android, quality build and specs. And for US users, the Verizon and Sprint CDMA network compatibility.
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And also to top it off, those stereo front firing speakers! Lol

snapdragon 630 it is.. better than 625 and 626 tho
it has Bluetooth 5 with new feature which i guess everyone knows+it will have a better camera than mi a1 and g5s+
it's android one (we can atleast hope for android q)
it has it's own camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.imagertuning_payton&hl=en
so we can expect better pic quality+sharper img's
but only things missing are dual front facing stereo speakers , 4k display and main thing moto maker!!( i actually hate the new upcoming moto model designs)
if it's below $300 i would go for it straight up!

This is part of the reason why I would not go from MXPE to X4. Graphical performance is important to me, and the Adreno 508 in the X4 is not very impressive. If you check out the offscreen scores where both devices are rending at the same resolution. Onscreen the MXPE runs at 1440p and the X4 at 1080p, so the X4 isn't rendering as many pixels and still can't beat the pure by more than a few FPS at best.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...=Qualcomm+Adreno+(TM)+418&D2=Motorola+Moto+X4

That 5.2" display is kind of meh to me. I think anything smaller than 5.5" or so would be hard to get used to after using this 5.7" one for a couple of years.

jason2678 said:
That 5.2" display is kind of meh to me. I think anything smaller than 5.5" or so would be hard to get used to after using this 5.7" one for a couple of years.
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It's not... First few days felt odd, but within a week using the big screen seemed awkward after using a G5+.