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Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
First off, I have the Exynos version. While the S8 is my first Android phone, I have never had any issues whatsoever with Touchwiz. I've maybe once had an app crash, never had random reboots and the stutters are only present in apps such as the Play Store where content is loaded as you browse. Performance is absolutely amazing. I always hestitated going Android because of the issues you are describing, but I absolutely don't regret switching over. The UI is as fluid as it can be, games are smooth, battery is fine (I'm not a heavy user but I can use my phone for 2 days before having to charge). Debloating the S8 would mostly be getting rid of Bixby and carrier apps. Other than that there aren't too many things to remove imo. From what I've read, many people that complain about Touchwiz being unstable are people that mess with Package diablers while not knowing properly what to disable. This causes weird issues, stutter, lag and whatnot. I can't tell you whether it used to be bad of my own experience cause I've never really used a Samsung phone before. Imo the S8 is one of the best devices around, for a reasonable price. If future Samsung phones will continue to be as good, I will upgrade without a second thought.
ImbaWind said:
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
You can get s8 almost same price as op5 .so many deals going on. I'm enjoying my s8 plus avgrat battery after using 4 month it's going strong never had profirmance issue it's smooth as buttery .
Best camera best screen best look. Speaker is loud. I recommend buying s8 plus but if it's big for u s8 is good too
Ok, short answer, we have a OnePlus 3 and the person using it is not gonna buy a future release. The phone is fine and all that, but he isn't impressed or satisfied by it either.
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Purchased both of them beginning of this month.
OP5 came earlier, so I had some time to use it as a daily phone. Very nice and speedy phone. Everything looked very good, and I thought it would be excellent successor to my previous Oneplus x, which I liked more than a year long (actually still like it).
Then came the Samsung S8. It was not so easy to switch from vanilla Android regarding overall settings , but at the end I liked the Samsung add-ons in Settings, sicne it's really very well organized.
To sum up the reason why I sold OP5 and am now very happy with S8:
S8 is more compact, especially the width of the phone makes it easier to handle one handed.
The Samsung screen is absolutely fantastic, and in direct sunlight waaay better then OP5.
Despite not having two cameras, photos on the S8 are much better, and video recording in low light is incomparable. S8 has OIS!
This phone has a lot more options (features), which I found really useful - like: Bluetooth 5 (nice when you have more then one device connected i.e. external speaker and
BT headset). HDR video support and a lot of options to set the color temperature of the display. Water resistance and wireless charging are also important to me.
There are however some things I needed to change to be satisfied with S8, and luckily it was quite easy. I replaced the phone dialer and contacts applications with stock one from Google.
And - definitely a drawback in S8 compared to OP5 is the screen width, so you will have less information on the screen regarding one line, but more of them are present since the display is much taller.
Regarding pricing, I bought the S8 (new) on ebay for 535EUR and OP5 costs 499EUR. so there is not much difference at this moment.
My 2cents.
Appreciate every comment, thanks!
jonny908 said:
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
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Thanks for your reply! I'd prefer smaller one tho, looks like easier to navigate through the screen.
udo 240 said:
I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
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Thanks for your comment! In my country, if I want to buy the top spec OP5 from official retailer vs S8, it's only about 100 USD difference. And yeah, OP5 community support is better but I'd rather stick to one stable rom than flashing possibly bugged open betas etc. So what's your experience with S8? Do you enjoy using it? How it differs from OP5 in terms of performance after debloating/custom rom etc?
I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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Exynos is always the better one, in every Samsung variant. Also I think Exynos version of S8 was the first to be rooted, Snap had some issues.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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I've always heard it's a bit snappier. You also usually have more options for stable root if you want to go that direction.
It's a little bit faster and the bootloader can be opend easy!
I was also on the same boat, bought s8 never looked back.
No lags at all, superb battery life, no heating issues, basically everything i feared that i would see are gone. But i bought this even more for the resale value.
When oneplus decides to take things seriously i will spend my money on them, till then samsung all the way up.
If i were to decide again now however i would seriously consider lg v30.
I'm switching my Galaxy S6 Edge after long using it and I have 2 main choices: OnePlus 5 (128 GB version) or the Galaxy S8+
The main reasons for me to choose the OnePlus are the faster and cleaner android performance, even though I'm a Galaxy user since the Galaxy 2 I never liked the bloatware and the oxygen OS looks wonderful.
The reasons for taking the S8+ are... Well everywhere I searched and almost any review by people who used them both are saying that it is the best android smartphone there is.
Except the reviews, the camera and amazing display and quality are much better.
After a couple of days, and hundreds of video and written reviews and comparisons I still couldn't choose so I decided to ask here, after you've used OP5 for some time, if someone approached and offered you to switch your OP5 with a S8 for free, would you do it?
Please note that cost is not an issue, here in Israel the S8+ costs about 300 ILS (about $85) more than the OP5 and i can afford it if it's worth it.
Nope. OP5 has far superior battery life, it is faster and dash charging is amazing, more ram and storage and basically Stock Android! The S8 has a better display but I'm OK with 1080p (didn't think I would be coming from 1440p phones) as I don't care about VR. Also, better updates and more frequent to date.
I switched from the S8+, the near stock Android is unbeatable for fluidity and just quality of life. Everything seems more iOS like on stock (or near it) Android. And when I say more iOS like I mean the good things about it, such as the fluidity and overall polish.
I switched from the S8. OS is light-years better. I don't need all the gimmicks and love quick updates. Portrait mode is a plus for taking pics of the family.
I'd trade, try it out for a bit, then sell it for another phone lmao. Maybe a Z2 Play or Mi A1. Who knows?
S8+ is a nice phone but all that Samsung bloat I can't deal with
You probably should ask that question in a more Samsung friendly thread because people here are obviously going to be biased. The OP5 is better if you are into rooting or customizing your phone. But it also has terrible camera software --I could take better low light pictures with my $200 Samsung Galaxy J3. The other thing Samsung phones have going for them is the build quality. I've never owned a Samsung phone that broke before I was ready to replace it. I don't think the OP5 has comparable build quality. But if you like to root your phone and flash custom kernels and ROMs the OP5 may be the best phone on the market.
For the looks yes, I came from a s6 edge+ and my girl has a normal s8, but for overall experience, speed and stuff I would def choose the 5, and if I want looks, I just hold my girls phone for a few sec..
They could pay me money on top and I would never come back to Samsung!
As you may have noticed, most of oneplus's users (including me) see the OP5 as a superior device to the s8.
Most people are not buying this phone because it's cheaper.
Coming from an s4, I was considering the s8 and the oneplus 5. But I am going for the OP5, because I think it's the superior device.
S8 is a good phone but I cannot live with Samsung's software
I haven't used Samsung devices much, but simply because I am able to mod this (custom ROMs, kernels, etc.) with virtually no bloatware and heavy skins (such as TouchWiz) makes this the better option for me.
The S8 does have a nice design though, and from reviews/feedback, seems like it has a better camera as well; but that isn't enough for me to switch over.
The 5 is a great device and I think if you choose it, you won't be disappointed!
Considering the fact that I'm switching from the LAGGY S8+ to the OP5 then I guess the answer to this would be NO
I could go either way except for the fact that I need dual sim cards so I don't have to carry 2 phones. I used an s8 for a couple weeks before switching to the op5. They both have there pros and cons which have all been touched on here. I won't switch but I would be happy with either phone. I think the s8 design is prettier and more impressive but the op5 is easier to use.
I like both.
As stated they both have their pros and cons...
S8+ has got a brilliant camera, sd card support and a heap of hardware features to explore. There is always things to find and surprise. Bixby is a little hard to use unless you have a US accent, I find it doesn't understand Aussie to well but it does learn.
The 4gb of ram is noticeable when you hold the Oneplus up to it though.
Oneplus doesn't have sd card support but does have dual sim support. You are stuck with the internal memory you buy so make sure you account for that. It is quick with 8gb ram and easy to flash/theme and mod .
In the end it depends if you like to be able to change roms and mod easily, though the S8+ isn't too hard after bootloader unlock (you just destroy any chance of Samsung honoring your warranty) or like to play with some cool little features you may or may not get over.
It will ultimately come down to you and how you use your device...
Just to be clear here, asking a dev forum of dedicated phone owners how their phone compares to the "competition" is not really going to get you anywhere. Most will fight tooth and nail defending their vaunted purchase and you will get a very biased opinion...
If you don't believe me, ask how it compares to an Apple... Now I've let loose the cat amongst the very heavily armed pidgeons...
I chose OP5 over an Exynos S8 because Samsung's software is the worst and I've been burned too many times. Price didn't enter the equation.
Same. Money wasn't the deciding factor for me. I had an S6... the ritual of disabling all the bloat got old. Too many gimmicks. Plus lots of RAM makes me happy.
I'd post in the S8 forum and ask why they chose S8, see what their responses are, and see if you value those things.
Home button and phone unlocking is way better on the OP. Infinity display is nice but also very fragile. I went with the OP5 instead of the S8 for these two reasons and never regret. This phone rocks.
Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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[Off topic] For how much did you sell your s4? Thinking of selling it but I'm afraid nobody wants it for a good price (~100$)
I'm coming from a Zenfone 2 ZE551ML with the stupid x86 Intel CPU. ****ing incompatibilities with apps it's getting me annoyed so I wan't to get a new phone.
I'm in love with the S7 Edge (Exynos version sold in my country). The used ones are around 350€ to400€ and I consider it a good deal.
My questions are:
- Is it worth buying one in 2018 ?
- How much of an upgrade is it taking in consideration that I've had the Zenfone 2 for almost a year ?
- I don't like the TouchWiz ROMs so I plan to flash it with an AOSP ROM like Lineage. Will I lose any TouchWiz specific features or see a the camera quality reduced because of drivers and etc ?
- What are the device's redflags I should look for when looking at used ones ?
Thanks for your attention and sorry for the long post
If u dont use TouchWiz you will lose specific features of the Samsung like the always on display or the messaging apps. You will have to rely on Google or 3rd party. I'm pretty sure lineage os doesn't come with Samsung apps. We are getting our last upgrade to oreo at the end of April. I think all the sensors work fine but the 3rd party cameras are kind of grainy. The low light camera seems to be a Samsung camera app exclusive I think. The only bug on lineage is the GPS not working fully, only high accuracy works the other 2 don't work, means you need 4g to use location GPS doesn't work. It's still one of the best phones for price ratio one of the few phones with a copper heatsink u can play 4 games of pubg without recharging at 60fps phones aluminum corners still get extremely hot after though like 42c similar to a cup of coffee. Phone can display 2560 1440p on oled. There are s8 ports with Bixby and camera stickers if you choose the TouchWiz route. I myself will swap to lineage os soon because the Bixby feels kind of half cooked. Samsung midrange devices do not support 4k recording or 1440p recording but the s7 edge does. S7 also has a OIS camera compensator hardware. When you shake the Camera the compensator will move the camera in the opposite direction to keep a stable image. Because of this software stabilization should always be turned off. Open camera the most downloaded camera app on the playstore supports 4k video and pictures still. You should be aware of fakes, the fastest way to check is by going to settings and checking for Knox security fake phones have problems creating a Knox version menu. Another way to check is to just check for the edge panel it can't run in fakes. I got my phone for 300 usd without any cracks or pink lines on the screen.
For me yes,it is worth it,mine also i bought last month it is secondhand but im loving it
You should check and test display,cause s7 has more defects on display(defect/misuse by user)
I prefer stock rom on s7e,it is more polished,stable,fast,and less bug,im not fan of custom rom since back in the past i was used to try all kinds of rom start from s3 to s6,like i said,it is fun to experience custom rom(ONLY AT FIRST TIME) time to time i've had enough of custom rom thats why i always go back to stock rom,actually i appreciated samsungs theme compare to pure stock and other manufacturers theming ?
Buy one plus or any other ..the camera is crappy now with every update..pictures come out blurry..
I have ordered this phone from Flipkart and it would be arriving by 9th June. Got it without a fuss by using a chrome extension. (flipshop). Was just trying my luck and it worked!! Will be going to a college this year so this phone should last.
I have few questions about this device. Please answer them. (I am mostly going to run this on a custom rom with pixel camera so)Does unlocking bootloader the unofficial way voids warranty? If locked again does it recieves update or we have to manually update it?(will not be a problem, just wanna clarification)
1. Is the slow fingerprint scanner a hardware thing or is it just unbaked software? Can it be improved with custom roms?
2. Dual band wifi How does it affects me? Since sd636 has integrated wifi can it be enabled in custom roms or that's not possible? I saw an article which stated that lack of 5 ghz wifi is not going to affect normal usage? Is it true? This thing has been bothering me a lot.
3. Touch lag- Oreo problem or screen defect?
4. Heating issues- Would be solved in custom roms, right?
5. Cheap material? This phone has 5000 mah battery but weighs less than rn5pro which has 4000 mah. Using plastic could have reduced weight but seeing it there isn't that much difference in Screen on time between those two, is Asus shortchanging us or AM I BEING PARANOID? I saw a video in which the phone was bent by application of force although it got back in shape Bendgate?
6. Camera- Don't use much of it but when I do, the Pics should come out atleast respectable. Are all the features of pixel camera working like slow mo etc? Is the Picture quality worth enough for casual pics? I saw the gcam videos and the pictures looked great. So.....?
Is there anything else that I should Know? Thanks in Advance.
YuZaGa said:
I have ordered this phone from Flipkart and it would be arriving by 9th June. Got it without a fuss by using a chrome extension. (flipshop). Was just trying my luck and it worked!! Will be going to a college this year so this phone should last.
I have few questions about this device. Please answer them. (I am mostly going to run this on a custom rom with pixel camera so)Does unlocking bootloader the unofficial way voids warranty? If locked again does it recieves update or we have to manually update it?(will not be a problem, just wanna clarification)
1. Is the slow fingerprint scanner a hardware thing or is it just unbaked software? Can it be improved with custom roms?
2. Dual band wifi How does it affects me? Since sd636 has integrated wifi can it be enabled in custom roms or that's not possible? I saw an article which stated that lack of 5 ghz wifi is not going to affect normal usage? Is it true? This thing has been bothering me a lot.
3. Touch lag- Oreo problem or screen defect?
4. Heating issues- Would be solved in custom roms, right?
5. Cheap material? This phone has 5000 mah battery but weighs less than rn5pro which has 4000 mah. Using plastic could have reduced weight but seeing it there isn't that much difference in Screen on time between those two, is Asus shortchanging us or AM I BEING PARANOID? I saw a video in which the phone was bent by application of force although it got back in shape Bendgate?
6. Camera- Don't use much of it but when I do, the Pics should come out atleast respectable. Are all the features of pixel camera working like slow mo etc? Is the Picture quality worth enough for casual pics? I saw the gcam videos and the pictures looked great. So.....?
Is there anything else that I should Know? Thanks in Advance.
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1. Fingerprint slowness is Hardware so you have to accept it to be slower.
2. Do not have issues with WiFi. Never experienced any difference but your mileage may vary.
3. Touch lag is Oreo issue which will be fixed in June security patch. We might have it in august since Asus said to try for bimonthly security patches.
4. No heating issues for me.
5. I am happy with build and design of the phone. Battery excellent for my usage.
6. You can root and use Gcam. Output is excellent with Google Camera.
Custom roms are in early phase so I suggest to stick to stock ROM for some time.
Stock ROM is great except the camera.
I'm thinking of getting a used essential phone mainly as a secondary phone for games and sometimes wifi hotspot device.
This is the cheapest snapdragon 835 along with some great specs available that's available to me (under 200 used).
I have been somewhat following ph1 news here and there and I know that there's alot of software related issues with the phone that usually gets fixed later on.
I will want to use a custom rom (with magisk/root to pass safetynet). I know lineage 16 officially released, but there's no official thread on xda? How is lineage 16 vs other roms?
I potentially would want to use android 10 because I'm highly interested in the desktop mode (via usb), but i'm aware it's in the early stages?.
Also, regarding the camera. I know it's not the best camera around, but there seems to be alot of blame on it because of the software. Has there been improvements on it (versus say a year ago).
I'm coming from the nexus 5x and last I was informed of the subject, the camera on the 5x is better than the ph1.
How is portrait and night mode via gcam with the phone now?
What are other good/bad things (thermals/throttling in playing games, anything else) with the phone that I should know?
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I'm thinking of getting a used essential phone mainly as a secondary phone for games and sometimes wifi hotspot device.
This is the cheapest snapdragon 835 along with some great specs available that's available to me (under 200 used).
I have been somewhat following ph1 news here and there and I know that there's alot of software related issues with the phone that usually gets fixed later on.
I will want to use a custom rom (with magisk/root to pass safetynet). I know lineage 16 officially released, but there's no official thread on xda? How is lineage 16 vs other roms?
I potentially would want to use android 10 because I'm highly interested in the desktop mode (via usb), but i'm aware it's in the early stages?.
Also, regarding the camera. I know it's not the best camera around, but there seems to be alot of blame on it because of the software. Has there been improvements on it (versus say a year ago).
I'm coming from the nexus 5x and last I was informed of the subject, the camera on the 5x is better than the ph1.
How is portrait and night mode via gcam with the phone now?
What are other good/bad things (thermals/throttling in playing games, anything else) with the phone that I should know?
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Look through here for just about everything you might come across for the Essential Ph1. If there is anything you might like to see you can suggest here. I've tried to cover most stuff of my Essential and shared with others. Let me just say some custom ROMs of Android 10 are being worked on
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