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Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
First off, I have the Exynos version. While the S8 is my first Android phone, I have never had any issues whatsoever with Touchwiz. I've maybe once had an app crash, never had random reboots and the stutters are only present in apps such as the Play Store where content is loaded as you browse. Performance is absolutely amazing. I always hestitated going Android because of the issues you are describing, but I absolutely don't regret switching over. The UI is as fluid as it can be, games are smooth, battery is fine (I'm not a heavy user but I can use my phone for 2 days before having to charge). Debloating the S8 would mostly be getting rid of Bixby and carrier apps. Other than that there aren't too many things to remove imo. From what I've read, many people that complain about Touchwiz being unstable are people that mess with Package diablers while not knowing properly what to disable. This causes weird issues, stutter, lag and whatnot. I can't tell you whether it used to be bad of my own experience cause I've never really used a Samsung phone before. Imo the S8 is one of the best devices around, for a reasonable price. If future Samsung phones will continue to be as good, I will upgrade without a second thought.
ImbaWind said:
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
You can get s8 almost same price as op5 .so many deals going on. I'm enjoying my s8 plus avgrat battery after using 4 month it's going strong never had profirmance issue it's smooth as buttery .
Best camera best screen best look. Speaker is loud. I recommend buying s8 plus but if it's big for u s8 is good too
Ok, short answer, we have a OnePlus 3 and the person using it is not gonna buy a future release. The phone is fine and all that, but he isn't impressed or satisfied by it either.
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Purchased both of them beginning of this month.
OP5 came earlier, so I had some time to use it as a daily phone. Very nice and speedy phone. Everything looked very good, and I thought it would be excellent successor to my previous Oneplus x, which I liked more than a year long (actually still like it).
Then came the Samsung S8. It was not so easy to switch from vanilla Android regarding overall settings , but at the end I liked the Samsung add-ons in Settings, sicne it's really very well organized.
To sum up the reason why I sold OP5 and am now very happy with S8:
S8 is more compact, especially the width of the phone makes it easier to handle one handed.
The Samsung screen is absolutely fantastic, and in direct sunlight waaay better then OP5.
Despite not having two cameras, photos on the S8 are much better, and video recording in low light is incomparable. S8 has OIS!
This phone has a lot more options (features), which I found really useful - like: Bluetooth 5 (nice when you have more then one device connected i.e. external speaker and
BT headset). HDR video support and a lot of options to set the color temperature of the display. Water resistance and wireless charging are also important to me.
There are however some things I needed to change to be satisfied with S8, and luckily it was quite easy. I replaced the phone dialer and contacts applications with stock one from Google.
And - definitely a drawback in S8 compared to OP5 is the screen width, so you will have less information on the screen regarding one line, but more of them are present since the display is much taller.
Regarding pricing, I bought the S8 (new) on ebay for 535EUR and OP5 costs 499EUR. so there is not much difference at this moment.
My 2cents.
Appreciate every comment, thanks!
jonny908 said:
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
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Thanks for your reply! I'd prefer smaller one tho, looks like easier to navigate through the screen.
udo 240 said:
I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
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Thanks for your comment! In my country, if I want to buy the top spec OP5 from official retailer vs S8, it's only about 100 USD difference. And yeah, OP5 community support is better but I'd rather stick to one stable rom than flashing possibly bugged open betas etc. So what's your experience with S8? Do you enjoy using it? How it differs from OP5 in terms of performance after debloating/custom rom etc?
I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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Exynos is always the better one, in every Samsung variant. Also I think Exynos version of S8 was the first to be rooted, Snap had some issues.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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I've always heard it's a bit snappier. You also usually have more options for stable root if you want to go that direction.
It's a little bit faster and the bootloader can be opend easy!
I was also on the same boat, bought s8 never looked back.
No lags at all, superb battery life, no heating issues, basically everything i feared that i would see are gone. But i bought this even more for the resale value.
When oneplus decides to take things seriously i will spend my money on them, till then samsung all the way up.
If i were to decide again now however i would seriously consider lg v30.
I'm switching my Galaxy S6 Edge after long using it and I have 2 main choices: OnePlus 5 (128 GB version) or the Galaxy S8+
The main reasons for me to choose the OnePlus are the faster and cleaner android performance, even though I'm a Galaxy user since the Galaxy 2 I never liked the bloatware and the oxygen OS looks wonderful.
The reasons for taking the S8+ are... Well everywhere I searched and almost any review by people who used them both are saying that it is the best android smartphone there is.
Except the reviews, the camera and amazing display and quality are much better.
After a couple of days, and hundreds of video and written reviews and comparisons I still couldn't choose so I decided to ask here, after you've used OP5 for some time, if someone approached and offered you to switch your OP5 with a S8 for free, would you do it?
Please note that cost is not an issue, here in Israel the S8+ costs about 300 ILS (about $85) more than the OP5 and i can afford it if it's worth it.
Nope. OP5 has far superior battery life, it is faster and dash charging is amazing, more ram and storage and basically Stock Android! The S8 has a better display but I'm OK with 1080p (didn't think I would be coming from 1440p phones) as I don't care about VR. Also, better updates and more frequent to date.
I switched from the S8+, the near stock Android is unbeatable for fluidity and just quality of life. Everything seems more iOS like on stock (or near it) Android. And when I say more iOS like I mean the good things about it, such as the fluidity and overall polish.
I switched from the S8. OS is light-years better. I don't need all the gimmicks and love quick updates. Portrait mode is a plus for taking pics of the family.
I'd trade, try it out for a bit, then sell it for another phone lmao. Maybe a Z2 Play or Mi A1. Who knows?
S8+ is a nice phone but all that Samsung bloat I can't deal with
You probably should ask that question in a more Samsung friendly thread because people here are obviously going to be biased. The OP5 is better if you are into rooting or customizing your phone. But it also has terrible camera software --I could take better low light pictures with my $200 Samsung Galaxy J3. The other thing Samsung phones have going for them is the build quality. I've never owned a Samsung phone that broke before I was ready to replace it. I don't think the OP5 has comparable build quality. But if you like to root your phone and flash custom kernels and ROMs the OP5 may be the best phone on the market.
For the looks yes, I came from a s6 edge+ and my girl has a normal s8, but for overall experience, speed and stuff I would def choose the 5, and if I want looks, I just hold my girls phone for a few sec..
They could pay me money on top and I would never come back to Samsung!
As you may have noticed, most of oneplus's users (including me) see the OP5 as a superior device to the s8.
Most people are not buying this phone because it's cheaper.
Coming from an s4, I was considering the s8 and the oneplus 5. But I am going for the OP5, because I think it's the superior device.
S8 is a good phone but I cannot live with Samsung's software
I haven't used Samsung devices much, but simply because I am able to mod this (custom ROMs, kernels, etc.) with virtually no bloatware and heavy skins (such as TouchWiz) makes this the better option for me.
The S8 does have a nice design though, and from reviews/feedback, seems like it has a better camera as well; but that isn't enough for me to switch over.
The 5 is a great device and I think if you choose it, you won't be disappointed!
Considering the fact that I'm switching from the LAGGY S8+ to the OP5 then I guess the answer to this would be NO
I could go either way except for the fact that I need dual sim cards so I don't have to carry 2 phones. I used an s8 for a couple weeks before switching to the op5. They both have there pros and cons which have all been touched on here. I won't switch but I would be happy with either phone. I think the s8 design is prettier and more impressive but the op5 is easier to use.
I like both.
As stated they both have their pros and cons...
S8+ has got a brilliant camera, sd card support and a heap of hardware features to explore. There is always things to find and surprise. Bixby is a little hard to use unless you have a US accent, I find it doesn't understand Aussie to well but it does learn.
The 4gb of ram is noticeable when you hold the Oneplus up to it though.
Oneplus doesn't have sd card support but does have dual sim support. You are stuck with the internal memory you buy so make sure you account for that. It is quick with 8gb ram and easy to flash/theme and mod .
In the end it depends if you like to be able to change roms and mod easily, though the S8+ isn't too hard after bootloader unlock (you just destroy any chance of Samsung honoring your warranty) or like to play with some cool little features you may or may not get over.
It will ultimately come down to you and how you use your device...
Just to be clear here, asking a dev forum of dedicated phone owners how their phone compares to the "competition" is not really going to get you anywhere. Most will fight tooth and nail defending their vaunted purchase and you will get a very biased opinion...
If you don't believe me, ask how it compares to an Apple... Now I've let loose the cat amongst the very heavily armed pidgeons...
I chose OP5 over an Exynos S8 because Samsung's software is the worst and I've been burned too many times. Price didn't enter the equation.
Same. Money wasn't the deciding factor for me. I had an S6... the ritual of disabling all the bloat got old. Too many gimmicks. Plus lots of RAM makes me happy.
I'd post in the S8 forum and ask why they chose S8, see what their responses are, and see if you value those things.
Home button and phone unlocking is way better on the OP. Infinity display is nice but also very fragile. I went with the OP5 instead of the S8 for these two reasons and never regret. This phone rocks.
Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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[Off topic] For how much did you sell your s4? Thinking of selling it but I'm afraid nobody wants it for a good price (~100$)
Hello XDA users!
As you probably know Samsung Galaxy S7/S7 Edge was the highest selling Galaxy S phone of all time.
The prices of this device even now are on a quite high level (in EU for example).
What is it in Your opinion that makes this Galaxy edition so successful?
Is it for example: microSD slot, better cam performance in low light, the fear of infinity display in S8/S9s, IP67 certificate, better battery stamina per mAh?
Or maybe there is something else?
Keep in mind that for example the price drop of S8 edition is much faster than S7. Interesting, huh?
Low light Performance (not really better in S8, S9 i dont know)
Great Display (not really better in S8)
Last Samsung Flagship with Hardware Keys
I am very happy with mine
And the Problem for me is, there is AOSP ROMs for S7, but NOT for S8?! Dont understand why...
Ing_Emperor said:
Low light Performance (not really better in S8, S9 i dont know)
Great Display (not really better in S8)
Last Samsung Flagship with Hardware Keys
I am very happy with mine
And the Problem for me is, there is AOSP ROMs for S7, but NOT for S8?! Dont understand why...
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Indeed I forgot to mention: Last Samsung Flagship with Hardware Keys
With that and the fear of infinity display (bezel in S8/S9 makes people accidently touch and turn something on that they do not want, what do You think guys?)
BTW: I like keeping Samsungs intact so what is this AOSP thing?
androidbadboy said:
Indeed I forgot to mention: Last Samsung Flagship with Hardware Keys
With that and the fear of infinity display (bezel in S8/S9 makes people accidently touch and turn something on that they do not want, what do You think guys?)
BTW: I like keeping Samsungs intact so what is this AOSP thing?
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AOSP refers to "Android open source Project"
just google it for more information.
Reason why i love S7 Edge
1. 26 days standby time if detox mode is activated
2. S7 edge (last good phone released by samsung)
i do not like 18:9 phones..its size is too big..phone must be in size of S7 edge (its perfect you know)
all other features that they have released on s8 ,s9 are useless for me
whenever i watch samsung new phone trailer..i keep asking...your phone size is getting bigger why can't your battery ?
i will most likely buy another new phone only if samsung delivers...
1. 4k display
2. More contrast and colors (a new display technology better than amoled)
3. Batteries above 6500mAh (IF THEY CAN BRING 512 GB SIZE ON A TINY SD CARD...They can obviously do something about increasing the capacity of battery...)
4. Improvements to audio (i know this s9 thing came with dolby but(auto,music,movie) why there is no tuning ?customization of our own ? like the dolby atmos by worstenbrood(i think dolby by samsung has still got audio restrictions)
5. and if xda provide root, custom rom for that phone ( it will be terrible to use stock rom of samsung...it's just crap bloatwares.. just don't like it
before i was bought s7 edge in 2016 (i was using s3 which i bought in 2011) so while i upgraded S3 to S7Edge (it was a huge upgrade for me)
lately samsung what do with their phones is making the phone size bigger, improving camera, processor, increasing RAM, Storage...adding useless features and bloating the phone very well
what's the point of upgrading it when i can't use all new features with full satisfaction or low brightness levels (always worrying about battery life draining fast )
No for me...i think samsung won't work on these features anytime soon for the next 3 years but atleast i'll be saving money not spending it on their new phone for these tiny upgrades...i really don't care.
Fingerprint sensor on the front. When the phone is sitting propped up in my wireless charging stand at work it is really nice to not have to take the phone off of the stand to reach around the back to use the fingerprint sensor. It's been a reliable device for me for 2+ years now. It's starting to show its age a bit, but it's held up quite well overall.
Hi all,
to me there are few points that make that phone great, but also making its successor NOT so great - hence the effect of S7e keeping the shape still...
It is a very subjective view, so not all may find that relevant for their perspective:
- fingerprint - it is in front that may appear somewhat oldfashioned these days but it is best placement if you use your phone on a deskstand or carkit. the successor (s8) has in the back and also in very unfortunate placement (non-centered) which I heard requires some time to adapt to
- hardware buttons - another oldstyle but some my find it more useful/functional, also s7 DOES NOT have bixby useless button
- better battery. both in capacity as well as in daily ops. period.
- I am not expert but seing many analysis on youtube - it seems the performance is also not an advantage of the successor - pretty comparable, same with camera quality
- and the best to the end - SCREEN - and here I have lot of thoughts as below.
of course the wider aspect ratio in s8 is a trendy one these days so again s7e with its 16/9 is a rep of an oldfashion stream - however to me it is all about the perception when you take the phone to hand yourself. I did not notice the effect until I started to use my s7e daily, especially in video media consumption. S7e wrapped screen is really 16/9 but as it is wrapped within that ratio - it is appearing more slim than 16/9 for sure. Still, as most of the media is 16/9 it still fills in perfectly leaving you with the impression it is just wider than 16/9. Hard to explain but I'm sure you know what I talk about.
When you have both in hands - S8 appear little small comparing to s7e, and that is due to its vertical lenght, also as for all non-standard screens - the 16/9 media needs to meet the compromise - either to accept the cropping or proportion flattening or black vertical bars. Not very convenient.
The point that I personally find unlucky - the screen rounding in s8 is way to big. I also use round-corner app (which in amoled works as a dream) but I am setting the rounding diameter on few milimeters, not a centimeter almost...
All that possibly make people keeping away from upgrade to s8, s8+ is possibly too big for some, s9 is too expensive yet. Similar concerns may come if you migrate from other brands... Let's see if the s7e attractiveness will keep still if s9 price goes down For the moment - I do not see better Galaxy.
Title says it all. I'm looking to pick up a new phone as my current HTC M9 is finally showing its age.
This is what I'm looking for in a phone:
I am BIG on de-bloating and ad blocking so at minimum root is REQUIRED.
Not required but might as well be, 3.5mm jack
6" screen or smaller, would prefer to stay below 5.6"
must support US AT&T bands
some what new specs
would like to have a LED display
not a requirement but defiantly looked at is battery life/size
I use to be VERY big into installing custom ROMS and Kernels. I've slowly backed off a bit but still love to do it from time to time. My HTC is just running a de-bloated version of the stock developer ROM. My Shield Table on the other hand is running lineage OS as the stock ROM is garbage. Having custom ROM options for this reason makes me feel secure in my purchase which is another reason I'm looking at a OnePlus in general.
From the digging I've done there really isn't much that meets my requirements. The OnePlus 5 seems to be my best option that I can find. The one plus 6 goes outside of my size limits. From the reading I've done it seems like the spec upgrades to the 6 vs the 5 just aren't worth the size changes.
I've also looked at the Asus ZenFone 4 Pro and ZTE nubia Red Magic Mars. The Asus modding community is basically dead other wise it seems to be a great fit. As for the ZTE it just barley meets my size limitations and is a bit of a gamble being that I have no experience with this manufacture before. Other then that my only gripe with the device itself is the LCD display but I currently have a LCD on my HTC so its not to big a deal.
So would you recommend that I pickup a OnePlus 5 or should I be looking at something newer due to the 5 approaching 2 years old now?
If this changes anything I would be picking up the phone from Amazon due to OnePlus only selling their most recent device on their website. I.E. - No warranty / international version https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A500...0955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=mobile&sr=1-2
I would suggest looking for a Oneplus 6 that has proper camera implementation and other little issues resolved. Or a Google Pixel 2XL if you want something that will last you longer in terms of updates ( eBay is having many auctions lately). In general, I would not recommend buying a Oneplus 5.
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Title says it all. I'm looking to pick up a new phone as my current HTC M9 is finally showing its age.
This is what I'm looking for in a phone:
I am BIG on de-bloating and ad blocking so at minimum root is REQUIRED.
Not required but might as well be, 3.5mm jack
6" screen or smaller, would prefer to stay below 5.6"
must support US AT&T bands
some what new specs
would like to have a LED display
not a requirement but defiantly looked at is battery life/size
I use to be VERY big into installing custom ROMS and Kernels. I've slowly backed off a bit but still love to do it from time to time. My HTC is just running a de-bloated version of the stock developer ROM. My Shield Table on the other hand is running lineage OS as the stock ROM is garbage. Having custom ROM options for this reason makes me feel secure in my purchase which is another reason I'm looking at a OnePlus in general.
From the digging I've done there really isn't much that meets my requirements. The OnePlus 5 seems to be my best option that I can find. The one plus 6 goes outside of my size limits. From the reading I've done it seems like the spec upgrades to the 6 vs the 5 just aren't worth the size changes.
I've also looked at the Asus ZenFone 4 Pro and ZTE nubia Red Magic Mars. The Asus modding community is basically dead other wise it seems to be a great fit. As for the ZTE it just barley meets my size limitations and is a bit of a gamble being that I have no experience with this manufacture before. Other then that my only gripe with the device itself is the LCD display but I currently have a LCD on my HTC so its not to big a deal.
So would you recommend that I pickup a OnePlus 5 or should I be looking at something newer due to the 5 approaching 2 years old now?
If this changes anything I would be picking up the phone from Amazon due to OnePlus only selling their most recent device on their website. I.E. - No warranty / international version https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A500...0955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=mobile&sr=1-2
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Existing thread for such discussions is this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Here is my opinion about your question.
I recently purchased a op5 about 10 days back. I could have picked up the 6T but until the onscreen fingerprint is a few generation old I dont want to go that way. 6 was out of question due to the notch. 5t has a great screen and my friend is using it but I NEED my fingerprint on the front.(It is my use case could be different for u)
+ the metal body and 3.5 mm jack.
Also, the camera is good enough for daytime shots and the 835 with 6GB is very zippy and I am sure it will remain so for a couple of years. And it does have a great dev scene so later when my device is a year or so old i can just unlock the bootloader and go custom. I love custom rom and used to do that the 1st thing once i got my phone but nowadays i just dont have the time.
Overall i love the phone and feels very premium. I cant give my feedback about the other models u have listed above but personally for me OP5 checks all the boxes.
Go for 5 since it meets almost all on your checklist and besides, there's not much difference from the OP5 to 6/6T in terms of performance. Been using my OP5(6/64(Latest Beta)) for more than a year now but I hadn't have any hiccups or slow performance issues in all the applications. Plus, up till now; The Rom / Kernel development for OP5 is still alive and kicking.
Only issue that I had with my OP5 is the "Device temperature too low" which is already a hardware issue(Motherboard) as per the local tech and honestly speaking, I believe it was my fault as well. Maximing the usage of my OP5 and kept on using it even if it's charging then while I'm sleeping, accidentally covered the phone with my pillow(while AFK on Ragnarok Mobile) thus causing the phone to heat up to the maximum temp(Too hot to even hold the phone with it's case on). As of writing, I'm still waiting for my phone to be fixed by the tech.
Thanks everyone for the input!!
With the research I did today I ended up going with the Galaxy S9 (EXYNOS). Covers all my bullets, its a newer device then the OnePlus 5 with very close to the latest specs and was able to find the 128GB for $560. With it being the EXYNOS processor I should have no issues rooting and debloating it. And if I cant stand the stock rom it looks like they have good lineage OS development for it so I can just jump to that.
I just bought me a Oneplus 5 to replace my old Nexus 6. I bought the 8/128 variant in great shape for $260. I had the seller leave the bootloader unlocked for me so that I can easily root and flash ROMs when I'm ready. I haven't read into how any of that works on the OP5 or what I would need to do. I'd presume that I'd probably just boot into TWRP and flash magisk but I haven't checked any of that out.
So far, I absolutely love the phone. I knew my Nexus 6 was getting slow and was going to literally blow up at some inopportune time but I guess that I didn't realize how awful it was til buying the OP5. I haven't tried anything too taxing on it yet but this has been so smooth that it's hard to imagine anything else.
OP5 still a beast and will run all playstore apps for years to come. (6/8gb ram is insane for 99% of users)
-Also, less pixel (16:9 1080p) makes it faster and gives better battery performance.
-I love the out-of-display buttons, imo is the android signature.
- sound chip is awesome, big sell point for me on my ath-m50s.
I choose this phone especially to reduce my overcompensation (no, money isn't the problem). micro-technology is just killing the planet, so not changing my phone every year (hello apple fan boi) was a huge sell point for me.
Actually ram killed my previous phone, even with swap partition it was too slow ( HTC Desire Z from 2010). So I decided to get the best phone ram wise, xda support wise and chipset wise.
The only issue I have, is Oneplus refuse to sell batteries, this is just stupid, I mean yeah I get they want you to change phone model, or send them back your op for repairs, but still, how many people want to change the battery??? not much! so I dont get why they are so picky on that !
wife's OP3 still a very fast phone even in 2019, snapdragon 820, 6gb ram, but battery doesnt hold the charge. ebay batteries are ****, tired once, and got 1900 mha, phone shutdown @ 20% charge.
I love the op5, and if I dont loose/break it, I should be good for an other 4 years I believe ! :good:
I came from a Pixel XL, the OP5 looked great because of 8GB of RAM (which seems impressive for a phone), a better SoC, and a slightly lower resolution (better 3D performance). Along with all those things being true in-person, the speaker is also a bit better. It also has good LineageOS support.
My main reason for switching was for ease-of changing the battery if I needed to; the Pixel XL needed some adhesive heating and careful lifting of the screen; I wanted no part of that. The OP5 just pries open on clips which I find very nice, and the battery access is from the back.
I got a slightly damaged one (minor drop damage; insides and screen looks ok) for $200; the 8GB/128GB model.
I would swap my 6t with an s10+ when the price will fall (perhaps with note 10 unveiling).
Though I am curious to see if someone went from the 6t to s10+, if he or she regrets or is happy by doing it.
Also is the camera much better? The 2x optical zoom are good?
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I would swap my 6t with an s10+ when the price will fall (perhaps with note 10 unveiling).
Though I am curious to see if someone went from the 6t to s10+, if he or she regrets or is happy by doing it.
Also is the camera much better? The 2x optical zoom are good?
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No regrets at all.
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I would swap my 6t with an s10+ when the price will fall (perhaps with note 10 unveiling).
Though I am curious to see if someone went from the 6t to s10+, if he or she regrets or is happy by doing it.
Also is the camera much better? The 2x optical zoom are good?
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Im happy with the decision!
Even tho, the Oxygen os is smother than the One UI but there are many different launchers for you to choose!,
Well, I switched from OP6 not T... Main issue with S10+ that I have is that the action bar (or whatever that thing at the top is) and the notification pull down menu thing seems so blown out of scale compared to OP6... I mean it is huge. I really wish there would be another option for making text and icons even smaller one step.
Another thing I noticed is that OP6 had better white colour of the display (S10+ seems a bit yellowish). At least to my taste... display adjustment sliders actually do something compared to S10+ (I imagine that is the same for any Samsung FW).
Another thing is screen real-estate. They are about so so, especially because of that stupid selfie cam positioned so far away from the top edge on S10+ which takes the advantage of screen to body ratio away from S10+ as it makes action bar really thick... I mean really thick. If you open youtube app you will see this humongous gray bar at the top which to me is very ugly. I get it they had to make something unique to Samsung design so that they actually get told apart from other brands. But still.. damn they could have just placed the cams in the top right corner and call it a day.
Navigation gestures instead of navigation bar are also more intuitive to use on OP, especially one handed since you have to reach the far corner to swipe up and open recent apps pm S10+ while on OP just just drag further up from the middle.
USB C port is better on my S10+ compared to OP6 though.... OP6 you can wiggle plugged in cable in it which drives me crazy. Curved screen is also annoying because you will be palm pressing stuff you didn't want to every time you will reach on the other side one handed. I have a case that is quite deep to fix that.
I can't say yet on the battery.
Signal wise they are so so, with OP6 having a slightly better WiFi reception. I'm talking like one side of the bead vs both sides of the bead.
On the other hand having all those optional samsung apps like music, calendar, on S10 is a real plus. I really did not like the way OP didn't include their own. App wise Samsung has nice little features OP doesn't like when a contact that you saved with company name as well calls you, that is displayed.
Oh and Samsung is whoring for icon pack and themes microtransactions, they won't let you do it anyway other than through their theme app. Quite annoying. Yeah you get custom launchers... But stock is good enough for me, I can't be bothered to get something custom and then fine tune it additionally. Also, hardware buttons are so badly placed it hurts my feelings.
I would say... skip S10+ and wait for S11+ or something that will have 5G as well. IMO it is not worth it. Hopefully they wizen up regarding selfie cam on next gen as well. I imagine their CPU will be more mature at that point as well.
Unless you get the thing for a bargain (that is why I have it) and turn a profit after the switch.
Why not swap for next months OnePlus 7 or 7 pro?
Went from 6T to S10+ last week and I'm happy with the phone. You absolutely need to wait until you get the biometric update though because before that, wow, the fingerprint scanner is garbage.
What I like : Screen cutout is fine and the display is beautiful, fast wireless charging is far more convenient than I imagined, One UI is good but not as snappy as the 6T, headphone jack is also really nice to have and I was concerned about the curved display but it's not nearly as bad as the Note 9 that I had for a few weeks. It's still easy to accidentally "palm touch" the screen but it's manageable. Bixby button, well, I remapped it to camera for now and I'll use that 3rd party app to change it to the assistant so it's okay but no button would be better.
What I miss : Hardware selector for ring/vibrate/mute, having the status bar icons all the way to the right, not closer to the middle, and as someone else mentioned, notifications seem way too big on One UI. It's a huge 6.4 inch display for 4 notifications and you are running out of screen space. I have a feeling Android Q will make notifications even better.
Better wait for OP7 unveiling then, if OP finally chooses a good camera setup then I will stay in OP territory.
What about custom roms? Is it a pain like on 6t because of encryption and dual slots?
I have both the unlocked OnePlus 6t and the T-Mobile version. I bought the S10 Plus knowing I would not be able to root it and thought I was going to hate it. Well both of my 6t's are sitting on my desk unused since I bought the S10 Plus.
The S10 Plus has so many options I have not missed root once (or some of the headaches that come with it...Google Pay not working because Google updates something that breaks Magisk hide). This is coming from someone who has rooted every phone I've had since the OG Droid. With the S10 Plus you can use themes (I just use dark mode) ad block system wide with Adhell3, hide notification bar icons and so much more.
Camera on the S10 Plus is so much better than the OnePlus 6t. Before I bought my first OnePlus 6t I had the Pixel 3 XL and I would switch between the two because of the camera. I ended up selling the Pixel 3 XL because of the battery life.
The hole punch did bug me at first with the icons being pushed towards the center but after a few days I didn't notice it anymore.
The gestures on the OnePlus 6t are hands down the best on any Android phone but with a guide on her I switched the stock S10 Plus gestures for ones that are pretty close to the OnePlus 6t.
Battery on the S10 Plus I'm getting between 9 to 12 hours of screen on time, which is better than the OnePlus 6t.
If someone asked me to trade a S10 Plus for my OnePlus 6t before I used the S10 Plus I would have laughed at them. Now if I was asked I wouldn't think twice.
I do miss the physical silent slider from the OnePlus 6t but I honestly think that's all I miss.
Don't get me wrong, I love the OnePlus 6t and will be buying the 7 or 7t, but the S10 Plus is just a hands down better phone.
I had the 8/256g version of the 6T. TBH I really loved the stock android experience vs the S10+ samsung One UI. A side note, I bought the Hong Kong version of the S10+ with the SD855 (I didnt want the Exynos version sold where I live in Australia)
For me, here are the Pos + and Negs -
S10+
=Equal battery life (6hrs SOT on both)
+Better screen
+Better camera (way better!)
+Headphone Jack
+Waterproofing
+Ultra Fast
+Build quality
+dual sim (or Sim + SD card)
-updates still need to come faster
+speaker quality is excellent
OnePlus 6T
=Equal battery life (6hrs SOT on both)
-No waterproofing (splash proof only)
-No memory expansion
-Camera (good quality, but dont do panoramic photos)
=QHD screen (its awesome quality though and great for gaming - no touch lag)
+One of the fastest SD845 phones
+dual SIM
-No Headphone Jack
+Excellent cases (The Karbon bumper by Evutec is awesome!)
+fast Android updates (faster than almost Google)
I was going to wait for the OP7, but the pop up camera errked me a lot. I'm really glad I went S10+. It was definitely an upwards step, not sideways - but in saying that, the 6T is very much a complete phone (except for the panaromic photos)
Btw is the exynos camera that bad compared to snapdragon?
I hope samsung will drop prices of s10+ when note 10 will be annouced, the 970$ price here is way too much
I do.... The biggest upgrade for me is camera..its a way better than 6t. I miss oxygen OS cleanliness and neat. I also miss 6t optical FP, i dont know but it seems faster on 6t...and what i really miss is MOD for 6t and flexibility of rooting and modding.
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Btw is the exynos camera that bad compared to snapdragon?
I hope samsung will drop prices of s10+ when note 10 will be annouced, the 970$ price here is way too much
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The post image processing on the Exynos seems to be worse. I saw the review showing the differences, and its real...
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The post image processing on the Exynos seems to be worse. I saw the review showing the differences, and its real...
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Can a custom rom help?
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Can a custom rom help?
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Seems to be hardware related. I'll try to find the camera comparison and link it here
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Can a custom rom help?
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/14
Seems related to HDR and wide angle cam shots.
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Seems to be hardware related. I'll try to find the camera comparison and link it here
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/14
Seems related to HDR and wide angle cam shots.
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So the cpu can't handle photo processing at full potential, this is strange given exynos is perhaps not as good as 855 but certainly capable of complex image processing. I am not a big fan of super wide photos with a smartphone, so how's the difference with the normal lens and 2x optical zoom?
I came from the 6T to an S10+ and went back to the store yesterday to exchange the phone to a pixel 3. Couldn't get past the fingerprint sensor issues, duplicated apps including an app store, and Android auto didn't work as well in my civic as with my pixel 2 or 6T. Not sure why
How would you guys compare it to the pixel 3
On edge whether I should sell my pixel 3 and get a S10+
Is the camera (point and shoot) better than the pixel 3
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How would you guys compare it to the pixel 3
On edge whether I should sell my pixel 3 and get a S10+
Is the camera (point and shoot) better than the pixel 3
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I exchanged my S10+ for a P3XL because the fingerprint sensor, even with the update and the screen protector off doesn't work well at all. I have very dry hands, maybe that's why but for me it was bad. The 6T had no problems.
As to the UI, I actually like it. We can cry about updates all day but stock One UI has more features than Stock Android and some of them are really nice. Having a video on the lockscreen for example, themes, the animations, lots of very nice things about One UI but something that you can't get away from is duplicate apps. Samsung backup, android backup. Samsung play store, android play store, etc.
When you look at the phone's hardware, the S10 is so much nicer and the cutout, even the double one, is nicer than a notch. Using the phone though, for me, is much nicer on 6T and Pixel.
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I exchanged my S10+ for a P3XL because the fingerprint sensor, even with the update and the screen protector off doesn't work well at all. I have very dry hands, maybe that's why but for me it was bad. The 6T had no problems.
As to the UI, I actually like it. We can cry about updates all day but stock One UI has more features than Stock Android and some of them are really nice. Having a video on the lockscreen for example, themes, the animations, lots of very nice things about One UI but something that you can't get away from is duplicate apps. Samsung backup, android backup. Samsung play store, android play store, etc.
When you look at the phone's hardware, the S10 is so much nicer and the cutout, even the double one, is nicer than a notch. Using the phone though, for me, is much nicer on 6T and Pixel.
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How does the camera fare?
I came from the 6t and the only thing I miss is viper4android. Dolby sound is a step up from previous Samsung phones, but I still get better sound with viper on a rooted phone. I will have to say that Dolby is pretty good and it will have to do becAuse the snapdragon will never get root ?