Hi all
I currently own a galaxy note N700 and am a flashaholic, keep switching between CM & Touchwizz roms.
I have the chance to upgrade to an S4 from O2 (uk), now i have read a lot on this forum but still not sure wether to go for it.
My biggest concern is about rooting, that is all i am after, just want to remove bloat and keep the rest stock, as i rather like
touchwizz. On the N700 rooting was easy with philz kernel/recovery, how easy is it on the S4?
I dont know what firmware it will come with (probably not the latest), keep reading about this Knox thing and am a bit confused.
can anyone en-lighten me as to the easiest way to root and is it safe. We had the EMMC drama on the note originally
is there any problems like that here?
cheers
jock11 said:
Hi all
I currently own a galaxy note N700 and am a flashaholic, keep switching between CM & Touchwizz roms.
I have the chance to upgrade to an S4 from O2 (uk), now i have read a lot on this forum but still not sure wether to go for it.
My biggest concern is about rooting, that is all i am after, just want to remove bloat and keep the rest stock, as i rather like
touchwizz. On the N700 rooting was easy with philz kernel/recovery, how easy is it on the S4?
I dont know what firmware it will come with (probably not the latest), keep reading about this Knox thing and am a bit confused.
can anyone en-lighten me as to the easiest way to root and is it safe. We had the EMMC drama on the note originally
is there any problems like that here?
cheers
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It's my suggestion that, if you are a flashaholic who likes CM/AOSP, you get a Qualcomm based GT-I9505 since the 9500 is Exynos based and will cripple support for CM because Samsung doesn't provide proper userspace drivers. If you can flash the Samsug device you have, you'll be right at home going to the S4. The procedures are basically the same.
Just don't update when you first use it root straight away the efuse is triggered by the update. So you will be safe.
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It's my suggestion that, if you are a flashaholic who likes CM/AOSP, you get a Qualcomm based GT-I9505 since the 9500 is Exynos based and will cripple support for CM because Samsung doesn't provide proper userspace drivers. If you can flash the Samsug device you have, you'll be right at home going to the S4. The procedures are basically the same.
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Hmmm! thats a bit worrying, cos i can only get the I9500, seems the I9505 is always out of stock on O2.
TBH i'm quite happy sticking with touchwizz, as long as i can root and debloat. I assume its just as easy to root as N7000,
flash CF Root then flash a custom recovery as long as i dont update before?
Can someone confirm before i jump in and buy one? Cos i'm also tempted by GN2 and S3.
cheers
I own a i9500, did a a cf-root and flashed wanam, now it's better battery life and much more smoth with the touchwiz.
Overall, i have a very good experience with my octa.
jock11 said:
Hmmm! thats a bit worrying, cos i can only get the I9500, seems the I9505 is always out of stock on O2.
TBH i'm quite happy sticking with touchwizz, as long as i can root and debloat. I assume its just as easy to root as N7000,
flash CF Root then flash a custom recovery as long as i dont update before?
Can someone confirm before i jump in and buy one? Cos i'm also tempted by GN2 and S3.
cheers
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Yes, it's easy.
S4 rocks man.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4
Hi I just got a new sprint Galaxy s4. I had a Samsung infuse 4g that I rooted and unlocked (which btw was hard to do for a newb way back then) but I never flashed a rom. To be honest I was afraid that I would destroy the phone. They are not cheap. I still have the infuse, so I guess I could practice flashing roms on that one but is it basically the same process? I just really really do not want to destroy my beautiful phone. Is it risky to flash ROMS or put other stuff in the phone? Thanks for the advice. This is an awesome site.
*Anything* you flash to your phone carries a risk (however minute) that it'll brick the device. The root method may be different, but for the most part ROM flashing is the same across any Android device.
IMPORTANT: Check your device model, since there are two variants of the Sprint S4 out there (SPH-L720 and SPH-L720T). The 720T doesn't work with all ROMs, and (last I checked) you lose the Spark connectivity, but 1x/3G/LTE will still work. I have one of the old models before Sprint started rolling out Spark, so I haven't really been keeping up with that part of it.
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Hi I just got a new sprint Galaxy s4. I had a Samsung infuse 4g that I rooted and unlocked (which btw was hard to do for a newb way back then) but I never flashed a rom. To be honest I was afraid that I would destroy the phone. They are not cheap. I still have the infuse, so I guess I could practice flashing roms on that one but is it basically the same process? I just really really do not want to destroy my beautiful phone. Is it risky to flash ROMS or put other stuff in the phone? Thanks for the advice. This is an awesome site.
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once you get the rooting done here is a great place to start looking for ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
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once you get the rooting done here is a great place to start looking for ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
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thanks for replying. I posted a question on the rooting thread regarding the s4. I was wondering about rooting it with my
Android version. I believe it's the latest but was not sure. Do you know if it's relatively safe to try that or are there issues like boot loops? Maybe I should leave well enough alone because I doubt I could fix a brick. These are really nice phones...thanks for your help
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thanks for replying. I posted a question on the rooting thread regarding the s4. I was wondering about rooting it with my
Android version. I believe it's the latest but was not sure. Do you know if it's relatively safe to try that or are there issues like boot loops? Maybe I should leave well enough alone because I doubt I could fix a brick. These are really nice phones...thanks for your help
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i had no problems. that being said. make sure you also have a stock rom down loaded on the phone or on a pc to fall back on, that way if you do boot loop you can just flash that. also once rooted make a backup!
you can root without doing a new rom or even choose a rom thats mostly stock with minimal changes its up to you how deep you go.
first thing if first once you root if you have KNOX you WILL flag the knox warranty count by 1 and that is not reversible yet.
good luck
Hi guys, i'm planning to buy an Galaxy S4 Value Edition Model 9515L (L from Latin, probably southamerican-friendly frequencies) (The only difference i guess is the back cover and it comes with 4.4) and i want to know if i can install S4 9505 ROMS on it, is there any problem? Plus, is there also a root for it?
No, you can't flash those roms.
What actually is the difference between a regular S4 and a 'Value' S4. pdadb.net shows they have pretty much identical specs?!
dave106 said:
What actually is the difference between a regular S4 and a 'Value' S4. pdadb.net shows they have pretty much identical specs?!
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I guess it's the basebands and software
Lennyz1988 said:
No, you can't flash those roms.
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even if the hardware is the same? There are alot of unified ROMs for several défices, isnt there ANY way of converting ROMS to work on value edition? Or at least its possible to root the phone?
I believe that the ROMs may work since the unified builds work, however does it have LTE?
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Battlehero said:
I believe that the ROMs may work since the unified builds work, however does it have LTE?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Yes, its the SAME hardware as the Galaxy S4 LTE, the only difference is that it comes with 4.4 instead of 4.2.2
Root I9515 with CF-Autoroot file for I9505
EverLost123 said:
even if the hardware is the same? There are alot of unified ROMs for several défices, isnt there ANY way of converting ROMS to work on value edition? Or at least its possible to root the phone?
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I just rooted my I9515 with the I9505 CF-Autoroot file. :good: It all ran quick and easy, as if they really were the same phone. Haven't tried any customs roms yet, so I can't say anything about them. The rooting, although, is flawless so far.
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I just rooted my I9515 with the I9505 CF-Autoroot file. :good: It all ran quick and easy, as if they really were the same phone. Haven't tried any customs roms yet, so I can't say anything about them. The rooting, although, is flawless so far.
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so, if root works, everything that you flash that is not a ROM that is supposed to work on 9505 will work on 9515?
EverLost123 said:
so, if root works, everything that you flash that is not a ROM that is supposed to work on 9505 will work on 9515?
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I'd be very cautious on jumping to that general conclusion.
Although the CF-Autoroot for I9505 has worked in my device, when I flashed the I9505 TWRP (2.7), I couldn't use it because the touch screen didn't work. Then I tried I9505 CWM (6.0.4.7, non-tocuh), and everything was smooth and functional.
Later, I flashed Slimkat 5 (which is supposed to be S4 LTE unified, I9505 included, but obviously not for the I9515 yet), but the touch hasn't responded as well. After a few minutes being really afraid I'd burned the digitizer for good :crying:, I was able to flash the stock I9515 rom and the touch went back to life! :victory:
So, it seems that flashing I9505 stuff (even custom roms) in the I9515 is possible, but the touch doesn't work. That is just a first impression based in my quick experience in this matter, though.
Rune Walker said:
I'd be very cautious on jumping to that general conclusion.
Although the CF-Autoroot for I9505 has worked in my device, when I flashed the I9505 TWRP (2.7), I couldn't use it because the touch screen didn't work. Then I tried I9505 CWM (6.0.4.7, non-tocuh), and everything was smooth and functional.
Later, I flashed Slimkat 5 (which is supposed to be S4 LTE unified, I9505 included, but obviously not for the I9515 yet), but the touch hasn't responded as well. After a few minutes being really afraid I'd burned the digitizer for good :crying:, I was able to flash the stock I9515 rom and the touch went back to life! :victory:
So, it seems that flashing I9505 stuff (even custom roms) in the I9515 is possible, but the touch doesn't work. That is just a first impression based in my quick experience in this matter, though.
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This times a thousand!
It's totally plausible that the 9505 is completely interchangable with the 9515.
It's also totally plausible that flashing a 9505 recovery on the 9515 will brick it beyond all repair.
And then its plausible that some things are compatible but others aren't without any pattern to figure it out by. (CWM Recovery might be fine but TWRP might brick it, etc)
It's your phone so you can do whatever you want. Lord knows that the vast majority of hacks to gain root (and various other things) have been tested by someone manning up and just rolling the dice on their phone to see if it works or bricks it. So feel free to try it, but be very careful, research first, and know that nothing is guarenteed until AFTER it flashed successfully and boots.
Skipjacks said:
This times a thousand!
It's totally plausible that the 9505 is completely interchangable with the 9515.
It's also totally plausible that flashing a 9505 recovery on the 9515 will brick it beyond all repair.
And then its plausible that some things are compatible but others aren't without any pattern to figure it out by. (CWM Recovery might be fine but TWRP might brick it, etc)
It's your phone so you can do whatever you want. Lord knows that the vast majority of hacks to gain root (and various other things) have been tested by someone manning up and just rolling the dice on their phone to see if it works or bricks it. So feel free to try it, but be very careful, research first, and know that nothing is guarenteed until AFTER it flashed successfully and boots.
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That is absolutely true!
There is at least one legitimate reason for devices being sold without straight forward root access: consumers safety, that is, avoiding them to brick their devices tweaking something they don't fully know or understand. That way, granting root access is a risk itself, and the ones which decide to do it should be aware of those risks (and be responsible for the consequences). And, if using a rooting procedure to your specific device is a risk itself, trying stuff for a different (albeit similar) one is a risk even bigger!
In my case, I ended up with a european phone I can't use in Brazil, what made me try and unlock it by all means, including the very risky ones. And, even though I'm far from having any deep linux/android knowledge, I know exactly the risks of what I'm doing, and things are really like giving stuff a try and rolling the dice.
That is the experience I'm sharing in this thread, but, like Skipjacks advised, be very careful before trying anything - and, when you do, be aware of the risks involved.
Rune Walker said:
I'd be very cautious on jumping to that general conclusion.
Although the CF-Autoroot for I9505 has worked in my device, when I flashed the I9505 TWRP (2.7), I couldn't use it because the touch screen didn't work. Then I tried I9505 CWM (6.0.4.7, non-tocuh), and everything was smooth and functional.
Later, I flashed Slimkat 5 (which is supposed to be S4 LTE unified, I9505 included, but obviously not for the I9515 yet), but the touch hasn't responded as well. After a few minutes being really afraid I'd burned the digitizer for good :crying:, I was able to flash the stock I9515 rom and the touch went back to life! :victory:
So, it seems that flashing I9505 stuff (even custom roms) in the I9515 is possible, but the touch doesn't work. That is just a first impression based in my quick experience in this matter, though.
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Hm... So, there are touchscreen drivers for each ROM(device) right? So if devs make ROMS with 9515 drivers maybe we could get it working?
I really can't understand that... the phone is almost exact like the original S4. EVERY spec besides frequencies, why there is so much difference?
EverLost123 said:
Hm... So, there are touchscreen drivers for each ROM(device) right? So if devs make ROMS with 9515 drivers maybe we could get it working?
I really can't understand that... the phone is almost exact like the original S4. EVERY spec besides frequencies, why there is so much difference?
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I'd love to see xda experts developing I9515 stuff, for I'm sure they would work just fine, but I'm afraid this might not happen. This S4 version is kind of a last selling one, and, with the new devices coming out, devs may not be interested in working in a dated - and probably not so spread - version.
Regarding the specs, I do think that, if we could flash the hole I9505 software, and not only a main kernel file, maybe we could get everything working. Nevertheless, I don't know where to get those files, nor how I could do that through Odin, or even how to bypass the write protection enabled bootloader.
Rune Walker said:
I'd love to see xda experts developing I9515 stuff, for I'm sure they would work just fine, but I'm afraid this might not happen. This S4 version is kind of a last selling one, and, with the new devices coming out, devs may not be interested in working in a dated - and probably not so spread - version.
Regarding the specs, I do think that, if we could flash the hole I9505 software, and not only a main kernel file, maybe we could get everything working. Nevertheless, I don't know where to get those files, nor how I could do that through Odin, or even how to bypass the write protection enabled bootloader.
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I would love to hear what most devs have to say about this
We need xda devs help!
EverLost123 said:
I would love to hear what most devs have to say about this
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So would I...
Today I tried a different 9505 ROM (Omega v31) in my 9515. Just like the other time, the installation went ok (albeit tough to go through, because AROMA didn't respond to touch), but, after the device rebooted, I couldn't get the touch screen to work as well. Adding this new experience to the previous ones, I think it's reasonable to state that, at least so far, the main incompatibility regarding the 9505 and the 9515 is the touch screen drivers...
Could any dev help us out here? Any possibility of custom recovery and roms for the I9515?
Hey there!! I don' t have an s4 anymore and i guess this is basically the reason you don' t see any custom rom for s4VE.. all has a 9505 or an s5 now..
Anyway.. when i had the s4 i tried to build a rom for the 9515 and sent to a tester.. unfortunately it didn' t boot.. so i guess it was due yo the kernel.. so i thought.. why not to flash the single system and leave the stock, altready rooted kernel?.. and believe me i would have bet my car it should have worked.. but it didn' t ?? even if the same rom worked as a charme on my s4 with 9505 kernel modules.. ?
So to @Rune Walker if you' re up for a test i would really love to have a second attempt, given that you already know and tested how to recover... so i will PM you soon ?
Wuby986 said:
Hey there!! I don' t have an s4 anymore and i guess this is basically the reason you don' t see any custom rom for s4VE.. all has a 9505 or an s5 now..
Anyway.. when i had the s4 i tried to build a rom for the 9515 and sent to a tester.. unfortunately it didn' t boot.. so i guess it was due yo the kernel.. so i thought.. why not to flash the single system and leave the stock, altready rooted kernel?.. and believe me i would have bet my car it should have worked.. but it didn' t ?? even if the same rom worked as a charme on my s4 with 9505 kernel modules.. ?
So to @Rune Walker if you' re up for a test i would really love to have a second attempt, given that you already know and tested how to recover... so i will PM you soon ?
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I'll be looking forward to run the test! :good:
Wuby986 said:
Hey there!! I don' t have an s4 anymore and i guess this is basically the reason you don' t see any custom rom for s4VE.. all has a 9505 or an s5 now..
Anyway.. when i had the s4 i tried to build a rom for the 9515 and sent to a tester.. unfortunately it didn' t boot.. so i guess it was due yo the kernel.. so i thought.. why not to flash the single system and leave the stock, altready rooted kernel?.. and believe me i would have bet my car it should have worked.. but it didn' t ?? even if the same rom worked as a charme on my s4 with 9505 kernel modules.. ?
So to @Rune Walker if you' re up for a test i would really love to have a second attempt, given that you already know and tested how to recover... so i will PM you soon ?
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hey there, I also have a 9515 and know how to recover, even PM`d Rune Walker for more info on this, so if you need an extra tester hit me up
righi said:
hey there, I also have a 9515 and know how to recover, even PM`d Rune Walker for more info on this, so if you need an extra tester hit me up
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thanks.. in the past days i wasn't able to think to anything new.. the rom is working with no wifi by now.. so i guess is not ready to release.. i was actually thinking to make a "patch" in order to make the 9505 rom working with the V.Ed.. but is still a project, and nothing more
thanks for your help, i will consider if need!
Hi. This is a general question... Tomorrow I'm buying a J5 Prime SM-G570m, and it's going to be my first samsung device (and 3rd android device). From my experience, I know that Samsung always modifies a lot of their stock ROM, and many things that work in most android devices, don't work in a samsung one.
I've searched about the J5 prime and there is not much development or guides about it (I hope that changes, because I love to root and modify and install xposed), but in case I soft brick my J5 trying to root it, is there some easy way to reflash and get to stock ROM again and unbrick it?
I know this is probably a noob question, but I know almost nothing about Samsung rooting and modding and just wan't to be sure that anything that is not a hard brick can be easily fixed in these devices too. Thanks for any answers
Samsung Smart Switch, see how to flash/restore Stock Rom here
Secuential said:
Hi. This is a general question... Tomorrow I'm buying a J5 Prime SM-G570m, and it's going to be my first samsung device (and 3rd android device). From my experience, I know that Samsung always modifies a lot of their stock ROM, and many things that work in most android devices, don't work in a samsung one.
I've searched about the J5 prime and there is not much development or guides about it (I hope that changes, because I love to root and modify and install xposed), but in case I soft brick my J5 trying to root it, is there some easy way to reflash and get to stock ROM again and unbrick it?
I know this is probably a noob question, but I know almost nothing about Samsung rooting and modding and just wan't to be sure that anything that is not a hard brick can be easily fixed in these devices too. Thanks for any answers
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You can flash stock rom with Odin and root the device. Xposed only available on Android marshmallow. If you want to buy J5 prime and expect for custom rom support, you make a mistake. There's no active development for J5 prime.
serdotlinecho said:
You can flash stock rom with Odin and root the device. Xposed only available on Android marshmallow. If you want to buy J5 prime and expect for custom rom support, you make a mistake. There's no active development for J5 prime.
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I would love to see CROM support for the prime, but I can live with root and xposed only
Secuential said:
Hi. This is a general question... Tomorrow I'm buying a J5 Prime SM-G570m, and it's going to be my first samsung device (and 3rd android device). From my experience, I know that Samsung always modifies a lot of their stock ROM, and many things that work in most android devices, don't work in a samsung one.
I've searched about the J5 prime and there is not much development or guides about it (I hope that changes, because I love to root and modify and install xposed), but in case I soft brick my J5 trying to root it, is there some easy way to reflash and get to stock ROM again and unbrick it?
I know this is probably a noob question, but I know almost nothing about Samsung rooting and modding and just wan't to be sure that anything that is not a hard brick can be easily fixed in these devices too. Thanks for any answers
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Plug in, boot into odin mode, restore via odin. I had this very same question on my device but i took the risk xD
Wizardlysense said:
Plug in, boot into odin mode, restore via odin. I had this very same question on my device but i took the risk xD
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That's easy xD thanks!
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That's easy xD thanks!
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Also xposed is available
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Also xposed is available
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Cool, I don't have root yet, I'm waiting a little more time before voiding my warranty but I've read some users install wanam version of Xposed. The normal version doesn't work with Samsung?
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Cool, I don't have root yet, I'm waiting a little more time before voiding my warranty but I've read some users install wanam version of Xposed. The normal version doesn't work with Samsung?
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Never tried the normal one but wanam version works. And systemless xposed via magisk manager also works 100% if you have telegram you may message me http://t.me/dikketesla
Hi I'm looking to root my TMobile s7 edge that's on Oreo. I see a lot of conflicting information and was wondering what everyone thinks the best method is and if there is a guide. I used to be into rooting devices many years ago but I've been away from it so long. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
I am also looking to root my son's s7 edge. It's been years since I left Samsung for Nexus and pixel but I am assuming that you can still use Odin and install twrp then install magisk or whatever your perfered root method is. I am going to research this a little bit before I do anything.
There are methods but you would be stuck with laggy mobile as proper root is not possible... And for custom recovery its a big no, the reason is locked bootloader.
So no custom recovery means no custom Roms.. The root will be limited to run root supported apps. And lil bit of debloating.
But the lagging is not worth it.
aka70698 said:
There are methods but you would be stuck with laggy mobile as proper root is not possible... And for custom recovery its a big no, the reason is locked bootloader.
So no custom recovery means no custom Roms.. The root will be limited to run root supported apps. And lil bit of debloating.
But the lagging is not worth it.
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theres not yet any root method for the oreo update the..engineerd boot.img works only for the nougat version which throws the device into a hell of lag battry drainage overheating ruining performance...
mojorisin7178 said:
I am also looking to root my son's s7 edge. It's been years since I left Samsung for Nexus and pixel but I am assuming that you can still use Odin and install twrp then install magisk or whatever your perfered root method is. I am going to research this a little bit before I do anything.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-s7-s7edge-oreo-nougat-t3819616
u guys canttbbee seerriiooss rriighhtt????
aka70698 said:
There are methods but you would be stuck with laggy mobile as proper root is not possible... And for custom recovery its a big no, the reason is locked bootloader.
So no custom recovery means no custom Roms.. The root will be limited to run root supported apps. And lil bit of debloating.
But the lagging is not worth it.
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SyndiCate861 said:
theres not yet any root method for the oreo update the..engineerd boot.img works only for the nougat version which throws the device into a hell of lag battry drainage overheating ruining performance...
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Obviously we are serious. If you read my post I said I was going to research it further. This post was part of that research. Xda has a treasure trove of information and alot if it sometimes it takes a while to get what your looking for. Back in the day people on xda were happy to help. That's how I learned how to root phones and use adb commands.
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Obviously we are serious. If you read my post I said I was going to research it further. This post was part of that research. Xda has a treasure trove of information and alot if it sometimes it takes a while to get what your looking for. Back in the day people on xda were happy to help. That's how I learned how to root phones and use adb commands.
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im d*** but not that big lol..my comment wasnt towarsd u ti was hoping to lead u to the post my comment was for the ones telling u stuff they dont know but sound like they do lol my apologies to u
All good man. I appreciate your help.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-s7-s7edge-oreo-nougat-t3819616
u guys canttbbee seerriiooss rriighhtt????
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u can try out the method but it will make your phone useless...and u will feel lyk jst stabbing yourself with the phone...
Hi,
I'm sorry if I sound ignorant...but my S7 Edge has become completely useless...and slow. You guys are saying the link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ougat-t3819616 will not make this any better? Anotherwords just get a new phone?
Many thanks in advance.
anybody have root file samsung s7 edge oreo 8.0