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[Q] Should i root my Samsung galaxy S4?

Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?

Michael1290 said:
Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.

Jason2k13 said:
You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?

Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.

Jason2k13 said:
Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500

Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.

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super nice and very good !
THX

If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question

I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.

Rooting all depends on your need while using s4

If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.

SM-S920c (or 920l) Straight talk galaxy grand prime

is there any news about proper rooting of this phone? i saw someone used king root and quickly switched it to superSU or whatever.. but im just asking if there was any new info about it. i want to root it so badly.. the battery sucks and is always over heating haha

Kingroot to supersu. It's not difficult and works.

bfoos said:
Kingroot to supersu. It's not difficult and works.
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ya i got it all rooted and stuff and enabled data tethering.. but what do i do now? i was told to get CWM before getting any roms, but idk what to do honestly haha

There is nothing else to do. There are no custom recoveries or roms available for this variant.

You guys will probably rage on me but...

... Ive had my G4 for some time now on stock MM but was encountering some minor heat issues, i decided to book up the courage to downgrade and root.
Now, im not the most experianced in rooting, i useually count on programs that do it for me, ive never pushed, injected, fake OTA etc. Before. Yes i was scared.
I finally did it all sucessfully yesterday but the only problem is, i feel abit dirty.. Thats the only way i can explain it!
Its strange, i enjoyed stock but i love root access.
Anybody else had this feeling, with any of their phones?
Btw, im now on H815 SEA (Singapore) LP

Yep it's normal, you're gonna learn to love the feeling and you soon could not live without it.
You see, now "TheRoot has you" and there's no escape. Soon you'll be diagnose with ORD (http://www.xda-developers.com/do-you-have-obsessive-rom-updating-disorder-ord/) and you're gonna try and root every device you see.
Welcome to the club

Haha, don't get me wrong I've been rooting for years but I did really enjoy being on stock. Once I get more organised I should feel a bit better.

Arry87 said:
Haha, don't get me wrong I've been rooting for years but I did really enjoy being on stock. Once I get more organised I should feel a bit better.
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Its good when you root , you can make your phone look cool...

I did the same thing yesterday. The phone is so much better now. I never used any feature of M anyway. I even installed xposed framework, only did 2-3 things to improve my usage.

milan187 said:
I did the same thing yesterday. The phone is so much better now. I never used any feature of M anyway. I even installed xposed framework, only did 2-3 things to improve my usage.
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Ah. I really want xposed but I can't unlock my bootloader so it's a risky install for me

Arry87 said:
Ah. I really want xposed but I can't unlock my bootloader so it's a risky install for me
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You don't need an unlocked bootloader to install Xposed.

Isn't it quite risky though? I am a noob at this stuff. I'm quite impressed I'm able to use my phone after pushing a rooted image onto my phone

Arry87 said:
Isn't it quite risky though? I am a noob at this stuff. I'm quite impressed I'm able to use my phone after pushing a rooted image onto my phone
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I did not read anywhere that it was risky. My first time doing it with flash fire 0.24.
I have a locked bootloader.
Only scary part is your screen being off and you device seeming dead for 15min. It's normal though.
If you decide to do it the version of Flash fire must be 0.24 and you need SDK22 arm64 of exposed framework. I installed SDK21 (its for Android 5.0) first time I did which is wrong for the Android version 5.1.1 and nothing bad happened, ran the uninstaller and installed SDK22.
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I don't know where I read it but I remember somebody saying every time they use flash fire they crap their pants. I will install xposed but I might wait until an unofficial unlock comes out. I can live without xposed .... For now

Arry87 said:
I don't know where I read it but I remember somebody saying every time they use flash fire they crap their pants. I will install xposed but I might wait until an unofficial unlock comes out. I can live without xposed .... For now
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I guess the whole part where your phone seems dead for 20min is scary, because you do not know what is happening. I do think we can still recover with LGUP if something goes wrong though I am no expert.
Like you I really hope unofficial bootloader unlock comes, but who knows if it will...

Is it possible to revert every variant?
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smknutson said:
Is it possible to revert every variant?
Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalk
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Probably. There was no information anywhere on doing it to my variant but worked just fine (H812). Just make sure you get the right version for your phone, then the same version that is rooted. Pretty sure LGUP can not brick a phone but I am pretty new to LG phones.

Rooting aint what it was. Some folks just keep fooling themselves its worth doing. Most that do it, don't need to anymore. Give it another couple of years and root will be gone mostly.

daglesj said:
Rooting aint what it was. Some folks just keep fooling themselves its worth doing. Most that do it, don't need to anymore. Give it another couple of years and root will be gone mostly.
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Well for me its really worth changing the awful stock DPI on the G4, you can kind of do it without root but does not work properly.
Removing ads is a bonus.
Also it's nice to have access to play with some things. (exposed modules, tweakbox, etc).
What could you do a few years ago with root that you can't now? I am pretty new to Android, so honest question.

You can't make a Nandroid without UB can you as you don't have custom recovery do you? That is the bit I would worry about having Xposed on LB,if a module crashed the ROM. I think the Xinstaller forced into bootloop on my last G4

SavageRobot said:
You can't make a Nandroid without UB can you as you don't have custom recovery do you? That is the bit I would worry about having Xposed on LB,if a module crashed the ROM. I think the Xinstaller forced into bootloop on my last G4
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I don't think so, but can't you fix a bootloop with LGUP?
Unless bootloop was caused by HW failure which happened a lot on older G4s from my understanding.

Xinstaller definitely caused bootloop for my G4, not the hardware problem (that came a couple weeks later) as I went to recovery and deleted module and booted fine. It was conflict with MM at the time I think.
Point being I don't think you can make Nandroid without UB. Don't know about LGUP, I guess you could yes, but lose settings media apps etc.

Yea this is why all my stuff is either backed up to the cloud or its on the media card.

I've had a rooted phone for ages through multiple devices and vendors. I recently succumbed to the curiosity and upgraded my SEA G4 to MM, losing root. I haven't had any heat issues, not ones solved by not playing games that require constant tapping on the screen anyway, and generally I've been happy with my phone on MM. The main thing I miss from when I had root is the ability for Tasker to do certain actions - like enabling/disabling location services and NFC etc.
Sure I can live with it - but getting back abilities like that has made me consider a downgrade just like the OP many times. I am resigned to the possible fact that I may never get an unlocked bootloader, and no MM root will be no surprise to me.

Verizon Lg v20 root is it worth it?

I have been reading about people bricking there devices trying to root. Are they doing something wrong or is it just not stable? I have rooted a few phones before but what i am reading is scaring me from rooting this one. Any input would be appreciated thanks.

I use my phone often. Not much gaming. And go to bed with usually 60+% battery. I'm currently using Weta Rom but they all are good. Its a trickier root than normal however I think this may be the new normal so just follow directions carefully and you will be fine.

Bubba Fett said:
I use my phone often. Not much gaming. And go to bed with usually 60+% battery. I'm currently using Weta Rom but they all are good. Its a trickier root than normal however I think this may be the new normal so just follow directions carefully and you will be fine.
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Debating it . i dont have a back up phone in case something goes wrong........ I cant even find the thread on how to root now lol.

pcwizkid1994 said:
Debating it . i dont have a back up phone in case something goes wrong........ I cant even find the thread on how to root now lol.
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Here is a great tutorial with pics that I and few others followed https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/root-your-t-mobile-lg-v20-using-dirty-cow-0175329/ . I was kinda overwhelmed with info esp the horror stories about rooting as well. That tut made life much easier.

2muchspl said:
Here is a great tutorial with pics that I and few others followed https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/root-your-t-mobile-lg-v20-using-dirty-cow-0175329/ . I was kinda overwhelmed with info esp the horror stories about rooting as well. That tut made life much easier.
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Will that work for the verizon one?? It says its for the t-mobile one

pcwizkid1994 said:
Will that work for the verizon one?? It says its for the t-mobile one
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Not sure, the previous link is basically Jcadduono instructions in pic form for the H918,H830 and US996 https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
sorry I couldn't help more

2muchspl said:
Not sure, the previous link is basically Jcadduono instructions in pic form for the H918,H830 and US996 https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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No thats fine. i appreciate any help.

Rocking VS995 here. Followed the Dirty Santa steps and it worked easily. Been flashing everything I could on this device and settled on Weta because of the sound mods and still having all the stock features. I've gotten 8hrs SoT with a Blacked Out theme, Substratum themeing, no lag, and Deep Sleep like it's in a coma. Rooting the v20 is a must really at this point. The only downside I've come across is it vibrating during boot up while it's connected to a charger. Otherwise I've rooted, flashed, and been living the life.

pcwizkid1994 said:
Debating it . i dont have a back up phone in case something goes wrong........ I cant even find the thread on how to root now lol.
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Do not follow any of the above guides that are posted you will kill your phone with those methods. Please follow every detail of this threat to a T to root your verizon v20 https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/ls997vs995h910-dirtysanta-bootloader-t3519410

It has been done guys. i thought i bricked it a few times but i am up and running on stock again with super su and root chaecker saying i am rooted

I am still debating on rooting myself I prefer to keep it root free for at least 6 months in cause something goes wrong with the hardware.
Main reason I root is so I can control what runs and what doesn't which should be a default ability in android in my opinion. I don't root to use custom roms I am always concerned about security of 3rd party roms
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KittySparkles said:
Rocking VS995 here. Followed the Dirty Santa steps and it worked easily. Been flashing everything I could on this device and settled on Weta because of the sound mods and still having all the stock features. I've gotten 8hrs SoT with a Blacked Out theme, Substratum themeing, no lag, and Deep Sleep like it's in a coma. Rooting the v20 is a must really at this point. The only downside I've come across is it vibrating during boot up while it's connected to a charger. Otherwise I've rooted, flashed, and been living the life.
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I can not get weta to boot for some reason. I get static on the screen when booting and when its on set up screen.

pcwizkid1994 said:
I can not get weta to boot for some reason. I get static on the screen when booting and when its on set up screen.
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Hit the power button to turn the screen off. Then hold your hand over the proximity speaker to turn off the second screen. When they're both black, you can use the phone regularly. It explains all this in the Dirty Santa root method thread.

pcwizkid1994 said:
I can not get weta to boot for some reason. I get static on the screen when booting and when its on set up screen.
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If you want the static to go away. @BackCheck made a stock verizon kernel that works just a good as the konverged kernel. I get the same battery life as I did on the konvergered kernel and plus its more stable Just do a backup in twrp. Then hit wipe, advanced wipe, and check mark cache and dalvik and then go back and flash the restock kernel. The first boot take a bit of time so make sure your phone is charged a bit! You wont lose data or anything so dont worry.

Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?

pcwizkid1994 said:
Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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I can't answer this - my question to you, however, has to do with your experiences in rooting.
I have the Verizon V20, non-rooted. The software version (it has taken one update since I bought this a few weeks ago) is VS99513A.
Can you confirm that this was the software version you had (have) when rooting?
And you said you thought you had bricked the phone a few times - what, specifically, are you referring to? I've read enough of the DirtySanta rooting thread to see some of the issues people have run into (static, long wait for first boot, etc.).
One of the unfortunate problems with a universal carrier rooting thread is that it doesn't delineate any one specific carrier and issues with rooting that might be particular to that carrier among all the posts. You have to wade your way through, lol, to find specific Verizon issues, for example. (That said, I'm very happy there's a rooting thread!)
It seems that from what I've read in the DirtySanta thread, many issues came up because people didn't explicitly follow the guide.
So, can you comment on your software version (13A?) before rooting, and what, specifically, gave you pause during the process and what I should be prepared for?
(By the way, the major thing I want from rooting is to be able to get hotspot wifi capability without having to pay Verizon for it. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data and have not been convinced that it's in my interests to switch to their new "unlimited", particularly since I can't use my corporate discounts, and will potentially run into hotspot throttling after a certain limit, etc.)
Thanks!

pcwizkid1994 said:
Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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This is possible with a rooted phone that has a kernel patched to bypass boot state verification (most kernels have this now) and using something like SU hide + Root Switch. I am currently running this setup and can use root switch to turn off root on the fly, use AndroidPay and then turn root back on when done.
I'll admit, I have yet to actually pay for anything with Android pay......but using this approach, I was able to add my credit card as well as bypass all checks with the SafetyNet helper app.

pcwizkid1994 said:
Any chance you know how to get apps that cheack for saftynet to work on rooted phones?
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Some of the roms like notsostock have people explaining how to pass the checks and all the apps used.

You can run the exploit on 13a without any problems. If you still don't believe me or whatever just use the kdz to downgrade to 12a then do the exploit.
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is there a Developer that I can pay to root my T-Mobile v20

Does anyone know why our S7s become slow after rooting?

I've flashed and rooted countless devices before and don't normally run into issues with the speed of the device. Usually I root to help with that! Since I've gotten my S7 though, I've noticed that we all get performance issues after rooting. What would be the cause of this? Is it Knox? Maybe something Samsung implemented to encourage us not to root? Does anyone have insight on what causes this lag? I might have missed a post explaining this so feel free to link it in the comments.

My edge has slowed to the point i'm using an iPhone 7 plus now lol. Waiting for the s8 plus to come out

The engineering kernel that is used to gain root is a factory Samsung kernel used for development and repair, and it was not intended for all out speed. The only way to gain root without this particular kernel is to have an unlocked bootloader, which is not available for the US S7. You can look into the Hybrid ROM, as it retains the factory kernel, but you won't have root access after flashing it.

Could you point me to root procedures guide? Thanks

lepa71 said:
Could you point me to root procedures guide? Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/how-to/how-rooted-s7-nougatand-fixed-lag-t3576393